Yasoda nandana das answers to article 1 and article 2:
1. The 10 volume set edition is not an original first edition publication. It has over 21000 changes from the first original editions especially in the first four cantos of Srimad Bhgavatam.
2. Srila Prabhupada. When he heard in the Rascal Editor conversation on June 22. 1977. That his books were being revised in his manifested presence, was not pleased and wanted all of these changes stopped.
3 . Then he clearly stated that “the next printing again should be the original way. ”
4. Further in the same conversation Srila Prabhupada stated “they cannot change anything,”
Thus implies that the editors. Publishers. Gbcs. Bbt trustees cannot and should not change anything and should revert back any of the unauthorized changes made during Srila Prabhupada’s presence back to the original editions.
Minor mistakes in sanskrit word translations can be corrected
5. These mandates by Srila Prabhupada imply that he rescinded his alleged approval of the corrections made by the editor in September of 1976.
6. Original way means first editions with appropriate future indexes. Glossaries. List of verses. Sanskrit charts.
7. Srila Prabhupāda’s instructions in June of 1977 superseded any previous instructions given in Z2976.
Fwd: https://krishnaconsciousnessmovement.com/?p=33197
With regards, Hare Krishna
Yasoda nandana dasa
Updated list of further articles by Yasoda nandana dasa
1. Exposing the offensive changes in the so-called original Srimad Bhagavatam: The Red “not-original” Srimad Bhagavatam has so many pages,lines and verses cut off from the second and fourth cantos
https://krishnaconsciousnessmovement.com/?p=33156
2. Important points and unresolved questions on 21000+ changes in Srimad Bhagavatam (first four cantos) [They supporters could not answer a single question correctly, instead resorted to ill-name calling and personal attacks on their websites]
https://krishnaconsciousnessmovement.com/?p=33107
3. The unseen destruction of Srila Prabhupada’s first edition Srimad Bhagavatam (4th canto) and how the 10 vol set contains many deletions of many important lines, pages and verses.
https://krishnaconsciousnessmovement.com/?p=33088
4. Photo showing Srila Prabhupada himself reading first edition Srimad Bhagavatam (READ ONLY WHAT SRILA PRABHUPADA READS )
https://krishnaconsciousnessmovement.com/?p=33247
5. Disastrous change found in 10 volume SB (4.24.74) — rascal editors changed the translation of BG 7.19 in the purport (Proof that 10 vol SB not even fully pre 1978)
https://krishnaconsciousnessmovement.com/?p=33244
6. Complete exposure of the lies spread by 10 volume SB promoters on prabhupadanugas.eu
https://krishnaconsciousnessmovement.com/?p=33197
7. Detecting Srila Prabhupada’s Original Books:
https://krishnaconsciousnessmovement.com/detecting.html
Very nicely presented, Yasoda Nandana Prabhu.
Who with the right mind can deny these facts and refute it ?
PAMHO. Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Dear Learned Readers,
Please be advised that many devotees are purchasing the 10 volume set of Srimad Bhagavatam, which is claimed to be an “Original Set”. It consists of 10 Cantos and Krsna book(1970 Edition). While the Krsna Book is the original 1970 edition, it should be noted that the first 4 cantos of the 10 volume set were revised for the second time during 1976 in Srila Prabhupada’s presence. It is advisable to purchase the first edition sets (30 volume sets). To see the changes in Srimad Bhagavatam, please click the following link:
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/books/dspobfco.html
The so-called ‘Original 10 Volume Srimad Bhagavatam’ does not contain many of the 1972 onward original prints, therefore the devotees are advised to purchase the 30 volume original set.
This 10 volume set is NOT under the authorization of Srila Prabhupada. Firstly, this set has removed all the front covers and inside plates are also changed. Secondly, it contains a lot of changes not discussed with Srila Prabhupada. DId Srila Prabhupada ever ask to print his books as per one’s mental speculations?
Let us read what Srila Prabhupada said regarding these changes:
“Yes, there is no need for corrections for the first and second Cantos. Whatever is there is alright. Once Pradyumna comes to join me here from India, then there will be no need for Nitai das or Jagannatha das to edit the Srimad-Bhagavatam. “(Letter to Radhavallabha, May 4, 1976)
Hence, the devotees are advised to read the first editions printed from 1972 for the first four cantos.
OM TAT SAT.
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
You say:
The so-called ‘Original 10 Volume Srimad Bhagavatam’ does not contain many of the 1972 onward original prints, therefore the devotees are advised to purchase the 30 volume original set.
This is a lie. All the original colour prints are there. Some extra ones were put in also because when you print a book it is made up of 16 or 32 etc page signatures. So if you don’t fill up those signatures you will have to leave blank pages, so I put extra original prints where needed.
You say:
This 10 volume set is NOT under the authorization of Srila Prabhupada. Firstly, this set has removed all the front covers and inside plates are also changed.
You need to learn more so as to avoid uneducated comments. Prabhupada recieved and was very pleased with beautiful sets of books from Italy and France without dust jackets. The 10 volume set has a beautiful and durable slip case with pictures. No one would put dust jackets on books in a set with a hard slip case.
The cold stamping hard covers on all of our original books was the standard. When they sold sets to labraries etc. the dust jackets were always removed before the books were put on display.
What we have in the new 30 volume sets is a complete deviation with frajile art paper as the cover to a book which will disintegrate in a few years just like the dust jackets do. With the dust jackets you can remove them when they become shoddy and a gold stamped cover will remain. Not so with the 30 vollume set.The book size of the 30 volume set is also smaller, so it is not the same at all with the original SB sets.
You quote:
“Yes, there is no need for corrections for the first and second Cantos. Whatever is there is alright. Once Pradyumna comes to join me here from India, then there will be no need for Nitai das or Jagannatha das to edit the Srimad-Bhagavatam. “(Letter to Radhavallabha, May 4, 1976)
This is the most misunderstood quote of all times.
First of all, Nitai das and Jagannatha das were working on corrections to the first and second cantos since early 76 if not earlier. Prabhupada was obviously aware of this work but when Radhavallabha Prabhu writes to Prabhupada about them not getting the work done, and by that time Prabhupada was aware that these two had become rascals, so there was no need for them to continue because a more trusted devotee was coming to continue the work. Jayadvaita also stepped in to do the work and was completely authorized by Prabhupada in August and continued to be accepted by Prabhupada on June 22/77. Satsvarupa and him were the ones to notify so that rascal editors could be checked. You really need to study the history a little better, to get a clear picture of what was going on. Shooting from the hip is not helpful.
Ys,
Jitarati das
Dear Prabhus,
Let us see what Jatarati das Prabhu or any one has to say about the following presentation as per the link provided below ;
https://krishnastore.ca/srimad-bhagavatam-set-original-first-edition-30-volume-h-krishna-502.html
Please go through all the links for knowing and understanding the TRUTH about on going book changes at the whims of the Editors simply to satisfy their agenda instead of sticking with the Order of Srila Prabhupada not to change the Original Printing of all His Printed Books approved by Him.
It is so sad to see that Jitarati Prabhu, a dedicated and devoted person for Srila Prabhupada’s Mission fell into the trap of changed books which he is promoting now at the expense of losing his Moral – Spiritual Value simply to maintain his Material Merits ONLY for Name, Fame and Status of some sort which are going to be exhausted with the time. Thus, it is totally a waste of time, money and his opportunity NOT to serve Srila Prabhupada’s mission but to serve his personal motivated agenda in collaboration with the devils at Fiskcon.
What a shame. I hope sincerely he wakes up to renounce his personal agenda in order to follow through the Agenda of Srila Prabhupada sincerely as he was at one time committed to protect Srila Prabhupada’s VANI before it is too late. As I said elsewhere in my comment that Jitarati Prabhu, the ball is in your court yard. Play as you wish.
In this connection, I may remind you, Jitarati Prabhu, the spoken words of Lord Shri Krishna’s to Arjuna in BG.18.63 which reads ;
” yathecchasi tathā kuru “.
OM TAT SAT.
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
In reply to Yashodanandana’s article above.
Yashoda says:
1. The 10 volume set edition is not an original first edition publication. It has over 21000 changes from the first original editions especially in the first four cantos of Srimad Bhgavatam.
My comment
So, you have the transcriptions and have checked all 21,000 changes? Not likely, so your only business is to criticise Prabhupada’s books without having a clue what is right and what is wrong.
Yashoda says:
2. Srila Prabhupada. When he heard in the Rascal Editor conversation on June 22. 1977. That his books were being revised in his manifested presence, was not pleased and wanted all of these changes stopped.
My comment:
Yes, and the mistake in the 72 1st canto being read caused that displeasure. Had they been reading from the 76 which had already been corrected to the original way, the reading would have gone on nicely.
Yashoda says:
3 . Then he clearly stated that “the next printing again should be the original way. ”
4. Further in the same conversation Srila Prabhupada stated “they cannot change anything,”
My comment:
Yes, and the original way was the Delhi Bhgavatam and the 72 being read was drastically changed from that.
The 76 was put back to the original way. The changes were already there in the 72.
Yashoda says:
Minor mistakes in sanskrit word translations can be corrected
My comment:
Oh really, and you are going to do that 45 years after it has already been done. Jai Prabhu!
Yashoda says:
5. These mandates by Srila Prabhupada imply that he rescinded his alleged approval of the corrections made by the editor in September of 1976.
My comments:
“alleged approval”? How could anyone be more obnoxiously offensive to Srila Prabhupada than this. A hand written approval and a signed by Prabhupada letter approving the corrections is an alleged approval? The only thing rescinded here is your common sense and service to Srila Prabhpada. You need to come to your senses and beg forgiveness from Srila Prabhupada. How did this happen to you Yashoda? Please come back. I am willing to help you.
Yashoda says:
6. Original way means first editions with appropriate future indexes. Glossaries. List of verses. Sanskrit charts.
My comments:
This doesn’t make any sense at all. Where does Prabhupada say that original way, means first edition? Original way means don’t change my meaning which was heavily done in the 72 and other first edition books.
“With approriate future indexes etc.?” How is that first edition? Not only that, but you are now the new authority who is not authorized by Prabhupada to do something already done 40 some years ago? Have you gone completely insane?
Yashoda says:
7. Srila Prabhupāda’s instructions in June of 1977 superseded any previous instructions given in Z2976.
My comment:
First, you have to understand Prabhupada’s instructions. You are far, far away from that.
Ys,
Jitarati das
Wow ……… How amazing it is to read from Jitarti das words ;
” My comment:
Yes, and the original way was the Delhi Bhgavatam and the 72 being read was drastically changed from that.
The 76 was put back to the original way. The changes were already there in the 72.”
So ONLY the changes which were submitted to Srila Prabhupada with the letter dated August 31, 1976 by the Editor Radhavalbha to Srila Prabhupada and its approval was given by Srila Prabhupada with His letter dated Sept. 07, 1976. These were the only changes Srila Prabhupada approved of it as established in my comments at the following link ;
https://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=53427#:~:text=Reply-,Amar%20Puri%20says%3A,24.%20December%202021%20at%206%3A22%20pm,-Respected%20Jitarati%20Prabhu
Jitarati Prabhu, your denial of the above approval of Srila Prabhupada authorization in any shape or a style of a Cherry Picking answer indicates strongly that you are yourself a LIAR, a CHEATER, cheating to protect your vested financial interest in the Red Set of S.B. which you are protecting for your personal interest only not the interest for Srila Prabhuipada’s Original VANI.
I wish to remind you, Jitarati Prabhu, that late Hansadutta did admit openly his cheating before he died. As a result of his cheating motivated agenda, he lost somehow his life time Trusteeship in the BBT which was given and granted to him by Srila Prabhupada.
Please do not make the same mistake and correct your path of action you are following while there is still time to revise it. This is my only humble suggestion to you, Jitarati Prabhu.
OM TAT SAT.
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Amar Puri says:
So ONLY the changes which were submitted to Srila Prabhupada with the letter dated August 31, 1976 by the Editor Radhavalbha to Srila Prabhupada and its approval was given by Srila Prabhupada with His letter dated Sept. 07, 1976. These were the only changes Srila Prabhupada approved of it as established in my comments at the following link ;
My comment:
Thank you Prabhu for agreeing that Prabhupada was aware of and authorized those changes.
Now that you agree, do you still accept that everything should go back to original editions?
If so, you will be at odds with Srila Prabhupada, and if you actually accept what Prabhupada wanted you will be at odds with Yasodanandana. So, who will you be with? You have an important decision to make.
Now, do you agree that they were reading from the 72 in Vrindavan on June 22/77?
Do you accept the fact that the mistake pointed out by Prabhupada on that day was already corrected in the 76 version?
Please reply to the points, not others. discussions should go in an orderly fashion.
Thank you.
Ys
Jitarati das
Jitarati das Prabhu says ;
Please read my reply appended below in CAP. LETTERS to yours’ comment ;
” My comment:
Thank you Prabhu for agreeing that Prabhupada was aware of and authorized those changes.
LET ME REMIND YOU THAT THIS IS THE SECOND OR THIRD TIME YOU ARE AGREEING WITH ME WITH THE REGARD TO THE APPROVED CHANGES OF SRILA PRABHUPADA IN THE LETTER DATED SEPT. 07,1976
Now that you agree,
I AGREE ONLY WITH THE CHANGES SUBMITTED WITH THE LETTER DATED AUGUST 31,1976 AS POINTED OUT IN MY COMMENT WITH THE LINK PROVIDED IN MY PREVIOUS COMMENTS.
do you still accept that everything should go back to original editions?
GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL APPROVED ALREADY PRINTED BOOKS AS SRILA PRABHUPADA ORDERS AND WISHES TO SEE PRINTED.
NEITHER YOUR WAYS OR MY WAYS OR ANY BODY’S WAYS BUT SRILA PRABHUPADA WAY AS HE DESIRES WHICH PLEASE NOTE.
If so, you will be at odds with Srila Prabhupada, and if you actually accept what Prabhupada wanted you will be at odds with Yasodanandana. So, who will you be with? You have an important decision to make.
MY ONLY DECISION IS THE WAY SRILA PRABHUPADA DESIRES AND ALL OF US MUST FOLLOW SRILA PRABHUPADA ORDER.
WHILE JITARATI PRABHU,YOU ARE IN A POSITION TO CORRECT THE PATH OF YOUR JOURNEY, TO SERVE THE MISSION OF SRILA PRABHUPADA AS HE ORDERS AND DESIRES,
THEREFORE, THIS INSIGNIFICANT CONDITIONED JIVA , I HUMBLY BEG FROM YOU, JITARATI PRABHU, PLEASE DO THE NEEDFUL WHILE YOU CAN BY SURRENDERING YOUR PERSONAL MOTIVATION OF SELLING UNAUTHORIZED CHANGED BOOKS OF RED SET SB. AND PROMOTE AND PROTECT ONLY SRILA PRABHUPADA’S ORIGINAL PRINTED BOOKS AS HE DESIRES NOT YOUR PERSONAL FINANCIAL VESTED INTEREST IN THE RED SET SB.
Now, do you agree that they were reading from the 72 in Vrindavan on June 22/77?
Do you accept the fact that the mistake pointed out by Prabhupada on that day was already corrected in the 76 version?
PLEASE GIVE YOUR DUE CONSIDERATION TO THE OBJECTIONS RAISED BY SHRIMAN YASODANANADANA PRABHU WRITING AND DAMAGOSHA PRABHU POSTINGS AND THE OTHERS FOR WHICH THE RELEVANT LINKS HAVE BEEN POSTED ON THIS SITE. THAT IS DESIRED, ONLY IF, YOU ARE HONEST AND SINCERE TO YOURSELF.
DON’T PLAY BLAME GAME AT ALL, YOU SEEM TO BE A HONEST AND SINCERE MAN AS I HAVE SAID IN MY COMMENTS. PLEASE DO NOT DISAPPOINT YOURSELF AND OTHERS.
OTHERWISE, NO NEED TO EVEN ANSWER ANYTHING AS I HAVE BROUGHT OUT WITH MY EARNEST DESIRE.
N.B. : THE PRESENT FISKCON MANAGEMENT ARE BUILDING TO BURY SRILA PRABHUPADA’S VANI BY HOOK OR CROOK. THE SAME WAY DURYODHAN IN MAHABHARAT THE MAIN ANTAGONIST OF PANDAVAS DID BY BUILDING A LAKSHA GRAHA TO LIGHT UP BURNING TO BURY LIVE THE PANDU’S BROTHERS WITH THEIR MOTHER BUT ALL OF THEM WERE SAVED SOMEHOW. AT THE END DURYODHANA AND HIS ENTIRE NEAR AND DEAR DIED MISERABLY. JITARATI DAS PRABHU, YOU ARE WELL AWARE OF IT.
NOW THE DECISION IS YOUR WHICH SIDE YOU ARE ON. PLEASE PAY ATTENTION SINCERELY TO WHAT I AM BRINGING TO YOUR KIND ATTENTION BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.
Please reply to the points, not others. discussions should go in an orderly fashion.”
Thank you.
HOPE MY ABOVE CITED REPLY MEETS YOU SATISFACTORY, JITRATI PRABHU.
HARE KRISHNA. ALL GLORIES TO SRILA PRABHUPADA.
Perhaps once the Hare Krsna movement again starts to spread in the ‘original way’ in the United States and Canada the new devotees will be able to carry freedom of the press in stead of freedom of ‘supress’.
It would be delightful to find any of Srila Prabhupada’s books being taught and studied in the schools, colleges and universities. You cannot find any of those on line. Those who like to pontificate about Prabhupada’s books being necessarily changed or not are visibly and audibly absent from the world stage. That was his ‘original’ plan. Get that started before we waste time arguing about his books that are not being taught on line let alone in the institutes of higher learning.
Anyone perusing this wonderful site for the first time will have no idea what the hell is being discussed. Solution…let those who claim to understand Prabhupada’s books step forward on a regular weekly basis with classes and diplomas for those who complete the studies. That way there will be an expansion of Srila Prabhupadas books into the world. Millions of new devotees are being deprived of the chance that we all had. That is our fault and no one elses’. Deaf ears and ignorance are not the traits of carrying Vaisnavas.
This is a great site that has teachers who do not teach en masse on or off line and no Prabhupada book study courses. Still not being used or commented on about their spiritual masters teaching guide. Ignoring the message, its applications and the messenger are understandable but to ignore a messengers heartfelt attempt for Srila Prabhupada is exactly like ignoring Srila Prabhupada. The credentials of the messenger are never considered but the message is. Deck chairs are for tourists. The bridge of for leaders.
Chatter on prabhus while the world burns.
Good points Prabhu, especially the last one.
I might add that how many devotees are trying to get a set of Bhagavatams in every home and spread this culture at this momentous hour of need?
Jitarati das Prabhu, you are simply agreeing to the so called good points of Hasti Prabhu because it perhaps suits best to your personal motivated agenda of selling the UNAUTHORIZED Red Set of SB. which you printed for your own SWEET will to satisfy your personal agenda by agreeing with the DEVILS gbc and co management of the Fiskcon.
Please be aware of that Hasti Gopal das Prabhu comments are simply an other smoke screen of his non-sense useless sentiments which he always express throwing mud on to the sincere Srila Prabhupada’s devotees world wide who are doing their best to protect and promote Srila Prabhupada’s VANI. Whereas Hasti Gopal das when suggested to him several times on this web site to start doing something instead of lamenting as he does more often than not doing anything at his end for the Service of Srila Prabhupada except throwing mud in his writing on to the devotees who are individually as well as collectively engaging in serving Srila Prabhupada’s VANI.
That’s what Hasti Gopal das does as usual whenever he writes comments. So what is the value of such comments ? The same token, what is your value of agreeing with his so called good points ?
” A blind leads to other blinds'”, as the saying goes.
N.B. ; You know, Jitarati das Prabhu, what is the good point. You should have printed the Original approved and authorized Srila Prabhupada’s BOOKS which are available to every one at the following link ;
https://krishnastore.ca/srimad-bhagavatam-set-original-first-edition-30-volume-h-krishna-502.html
WHY Jitarati Prabhu, you did not order the Orginal Books from the above contact ?
This is what I wish to know the answer from you.
OM TAT SAT.
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Disastrous change found in 10 volume SB (4.24.74)
rascal editors changed the translation of BG 7.19 in the purport
(Proof that 10 vol SB not even fully pre 1978)
ANSWER BY JITARATI:
This is pure speculation. Do you have the tape or the transcription of the tape? It is very unlikely that someone changed the wording of the verse. What is far more likely is what we can see Prabhupada doing hundreds of times when he quotes a verse, he uses his own words. In fact, Prabhupada almost always only quotes the first or first and second line of the Sanskrit and then uses his own words to explain the verse. You have shown many examples where Prabhupada has already explained the verse in the purport and then some early editor thought he would add the whole transliteration and the translation of the verse. Later editors knew this was a mistake and took it out. This is the most likely scenario and until we can get access to the tape or transcription it is much safer to not find faults in Prabhupada’s authorized books.
ys
Jitarati das
Jitarati Prabhu,
Kindly pay attention to the following links with regard to your concerns in the comments you posted ;
http://prabhupadanugasworldwide.org/photo-showing-srila-prabhupada-himself-reading-first-edition-srimad-bhagavatam-read-only-what-srila-prabhupada-reads/
http://prabhupadanugasworldwide.org/complete-exposure-of-the-lies-spread-by-10-volume-sb-promoters-on-prabhupadanugas-eu/
Above is the proof itself. Is it NOT ?
Hope it satisfies you.
In case, it doesn’t, then, it is very obvious that you are on the side of the Devils in the present Fiskcon who are destroying Srila Prabhupada’s VANI by changing His BOOKS. Therefore, you become the supporter of these Devils in the present Fiskcon because you are promoting the changed Red Set of SB. books to protect your vested financial interest in the printing of the changed books. You are NOT serving Srila Prabhupada’s mission. Are you ?
Thus, the example of Duryodhan and co. in the Mahabharata plot of building the Laksha Graha to destroy the Pandavas family of Five brothers and their mother do apply in your case. Red Alert warnings are coming on your way, Jitarati Prabhu. I hope you take the heed.
OM TAT SAT.
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Jitarati das Prabhu says ; ” ….Later editors knew this was a mistake and took it out. This is the most likely scenario and until we can get access to the tape or transcription it is much safer to not find faults in Prabhupada’s authorized books.”
What a contradictory, cunning statement ; ” until we can get access to the tape or transcription it is much safer to not find faults in Prabhupada’s authorized books.”
Finding faults or finding facts after Jitarati das Prabhu printing in a whole sale questionable changed Red Set of SB. for his personal motivated ( vested financial interest ) agenda should have been taken into consideration before its printing. But alas …. Jitarati Prabhu, you have failed to do so, thus, suffer the consequences and avoid contradicting to yourself.
So, stop lamenting in your useless arguments, and start taking the heed to surrender your personal motivated agenda for the service of Srila Prabhupada’s mission in order to protect and promote His Original VANI As It Is authorized and approved Printing of Srila Prabhupada’s BOOKS only.
That is my humble advice so that you can stay on the course of serving Srila Prabhupada’s mission for which you were known for it. That is how I come to know your good name, although I never had any previous contact with you, that you are one hundred percent Srila Prabhupada’s man.
Unfortunately due to your personal financial motivated interest, somehow, you went along with the Devils – gbc, gurus and co. of the present Fiskcon, to print these changed books, and you lost your personal – Spiritual Value as it appears under these circumstances. The only way out for you is simply to surrender to Srila Prabhupada’s Original VANI and protect and promote His Original authorized and approved printed Books as it is suggested to you in these articles of discussion. NO need to refute Srila Prabhupada’s Instructions presented to you in the discussion.
At last, I beg from you that please do not act with your personal ambition on the side of the Devils gbc. of Fiskcon kingdom exactly like Maharaja Dritrasthra did act for the Kuru kingdom mainly for interest of his son Duryodhan’s ambition. The end result is LOSS, lost of everything.
Hope it meets you well, Prabhu.
OM TAT SAT.
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Your worthless insignificant servant remains in the service of Srila Prabhupada,
amar puri.
The Ongoing Debate Over Which Is The Real “Original Books”
WOW – I am speechless – Yasodananda is a liar, Damaghosa is a Kali-chela und Amar-puri is a totally confused knuckle-head, not understanding proper English. WOW
I am really sorry to hear that all you guys fell down from Devotees to Devils.
Are you all nuts or what? Why are you all creating so much confusion?
The main point is: what was being read? Was it the 72-SB or was it the 76-SB, this is the real issue here.
Some say 72 and some say 76. Obviously only one can be right, and the other is wrong.
Also note that it is not Srila Prabhupada who is reading, but Tamal Krishna is reading the SB to Srila Prabhupada, and Srila Prabhupada is correcting.
So what is it now??? Does anyone else has an explanation as from which SB-version is being read???
AMAR PURI WRITES:
it is very obvious that you are on the side of the Devils in the present Fiskcon who are destroying Srila Prabhupada’s VANI by changing His BOOKS. Therefore, you become the supporter of these Devils in the present Fiskcon because you are promoting the changed Red Set of SB. books
Amar Puri, sorry, but you are not only a totally confused knuckle-head, not understanding proper English, but you are a total idiot, not are even worth an answer. You are certainly not qualified to talk about the printing of books, in your confused condition.
Tamala Krishna: There’s no index. It’s not a new Bhagavatam. There’s no index in this Bhagavatam.”
Only the 72 has no index in the first volume but the 76 has complete index in all volumes. Obviously they were reading from the 72, not the 76 as you try to claim above. Amar Puri you are to stupid to even properly read.
Parisit das says ; ” So what is it now??? Does anyone else has an explanation as from which SB-version is being read???
Parisit das, I wish that you could have answered the question yourself, but,you did not. WHY ?
It means that you are simply good at name calling like Jitarati das and so many others who are in denial to accept from the Instructions of Srila Prabhupada as per the various links provided by the devotees. So, you are in the same category. If you are learned man, as you seem to be, you would have answered wisely. Therefore, you are not even intelligent enough to discern what is being discussed except throwing the mud by playing blame game. That is not desirable at all.
Next time, write wisely and beg to ask question, should you wish to enter into a wisely discussion.
Now, read carefully the following link and other links as well with the rapt attention before you even dare to open your filthy mouth any further please.
https://prabhupadabooks.com/conversations/1977/jun/conversation_rascal_editors_and_morning_talk/vrndavana/june/22/1977
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
ys…… amar puri
Hare krsna, this is called illusion,the hati mata is destroying the bhakta Lata bija, forgetting how dear we are to Sri Krishna make one aparadhi a criminals by committing offences which make one to follow down more in this material pool,they must change their false ego not the books, it’s sad to see the devotional work of our guru Maharaj to be change in that nasty way, I’m surprised to see nobody do nothing to stop all these wretches to going against Hdg acbsp by changing His books, someone must do something there is the court magistrate to make justice,I mean before Jas now yasodananda ,who is the next rascal to go to the hell? Anyway just keep chanting because I’m sure SCM already got a plan to rectify all the insignificants demon who trying to change the sanatana dharma which is impossible, agtacbsp ys haribol
Jitarati Prabhu, can you comment on this:
https://krishnastore.co.uk/srimad-bhagavatam-set-original-first-edition-30-volume-h-krishna-502.html
Versus this:
List of articles published on unauthorized red 10 volume SB changes
1. Exposing the offensive changes in the so-called original Srimad Bhagavatam: The Red “not-original” Srimad Bhagavatam has so many pages,lines and verses cut off from the second and fourth cantos
https://krishnaconsciousnessmovement.com/?p=33156
2. Important points and unresolved questions on 21000+ changes in Srimad Bhagavatam (first four cantos) [They supporters could not answer a single question correctly, instead resorted to ill-name calling and personal attacks on their websites]
https://krishnaconsciousnessmovement.com/?p=33107
3. The unseen destruction of Srila Prabhupada’s first edition Srimad Bhagavatam (4th canto) and how the 10 vol set contains many deletions of many important lines, pages and verses.
https://krishnaconsciousnessmovement.com/?p=33088
4. Photo showing Srila Prabhupada himself reading first edition Srimad Bhagavatam (READ ONLY WHAT SRILA PRABHUPADA READS )
https://krishnaconsciousnessmovement.com/?p=33247
5. Disastrous change found in 10 volume SB (4.24.74) — rascal editors changed the translation of BG 7.19 in the purport (Proof that 10 vol SB not even fully pre 1978)
https://krishnaconsciousnessmovement.com/?p=33244
6. Complete exposure of the lies spread by 10 volume SB promoters on prabhupadanugas.eu
https://krishnaconsciousnessmovement.com/?p=33197
7. Detecting Srila Prabhupada’s Original Books:
https://krishnaconsciousnessmovement.com/detecting.html
This 10 Volume set cannot be called the original set as it has the same changes that are found in the links below(it is not the 1972 print). Also Srila Prabhupada had never instructed to take out the front covers of the books and merge them as 10 cantos.
Google drive with Srila Prabhupada’s first edition unrevised, non adulterated, original books.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nHm72gVwAeei95WDkSLf2aw5x-jRXDoF?usp=sharing
Another folder for Srimad Bhagavatam 1972 on-wards first edition original books:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1am9rKGII3wMrmkyxHp85hfjMjgnWGzT9?export?format=pdf
Note: To download/print the files containing changes: Click on the above link. Then click File -> Export/Print -> Side-by-Side view respectively.
Canto 1: (Over 6000 changes)
Chapters 1-4: https://draftable.com/compare/UTXTvIzsNrmu
Chapters 5-8: https://draftable.com/compare/cupjyEEYuyGn
Chapters 9-12: https://draftable.com/compare/yllqQqNZSlgP
Chapters 13-16: https://draftable.com/compare/VCGEgShIgbNU
Chapters 17-19: https://draftable.com/compare/pMtvfQINaQtE
Canto 2: (Over 6000 changes)
Chapters 1-4: https://draftable.com/compare/wwucNCVgfccF
Chapters 5-8: https://draftable.com/compare/iimgbZjLWGTk
Chapters 9-10: https://draftable.com/compare/VaeVzKEAplpN
Canto 3: (Over 4000 changes)
Chapters 1-5: https://draftable.com/compare/WBtcORNEGUtA
Chapters 6-11: https://draftable.com/compare/EZtdJyOoixCD
Chapters 12-16: https://draftable.com/compare/WMdbAnBHPWcF
Chapters 17-22: https://draftable.com/compare/PWktcoYEdibW
Chapters 23-26: https://draftable.com/compare/zTHMikJhqgiF
Chapters 27-31: https://draftable.com/compare/HIsgZlxBsjPM
Chapters 32-33: https://draftable.com/compare/MFPehjhLQCun
Canto 4: (Over 5000 changes)
Chapters 1-6: https://draftable.com/compare/ushTtFMkmfIq
Chapters 7-10: https://draftable.com/compare/AkqAwNZEppIn
Chapters 11-16: https://draftable.com/compare/MQvlEISQSJVR
Chapters 17-21: https://draftable.com/compare/OjFXdGtBAdNz
Chapters 22-23: https://draftable.com/compare/dEfZIREardwX
Chapters 24-26: https://draftable.com/compare/NfFVFBiJXaSG
Chapters 27-29: https://draftable.com/compare/QzYaMiIksWiK
Chapters 30-31: https://draftable.com/compare/uNPTJpGUBUdi
These 10 volume sets are NOT AUTHORISED by Srila Prabhupada! THAT’S ALL! Naresvara was also pushing these in Australia! Naresvara is a great offender of Srila Prabhupada and another ‘enabler’ of the poisoners of His Divine Grace. Any book changes that are not authorised by Srila Prabhupada are an offence to His Divine Grace.
Jitaratri and Hasti Gopal can talk what nonsense they like on the subject because they have their own agendas …….and it is as simple as that!
Pamho Prabhus agtacbsp, unfortunately we are all stupid who is more and who is less but we are all trapped in saguna form and fighting like cats and dogs,the fighting will be over when the material body die,the spiritual body is sleeping because we forgot about it through the identification of the transformation of the physical body,we don’t know the material body neither the spiritual one,we are all in the same rotten boat,we should repent very bitterly about our betrayment to lord Krishna because as we can see is not easy at all to become dear to Sri Krishna in this abominable society of jivo jivasya jivanam, agtacbsp ys haribol
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