Satsvarupa Das Goswami feet-wash-ceremonial
Satsvarupa planting the weed
BY URDHVAGA DAS
IRG – USA – 8/12/98
While I have the greatest respect for Srila Satsvarupa Maharaja’s personal reform (see Guru Reform Notebook), I am unable, however, to accept his Lilamrita which I find not only very painful to read but also very offensive and distorting. I can try as hard as I like, but the “Abhay” described in the Lilamrita is not the same as the Srila Prabhupada which I have known while he was with us.
Srila Satsvarupa wrote the Lilamrita before his personal reform took place, that means when he was still under the misconception of being a “Prabhupada – appointed successor-acarya”; which he later on admitted was an erroneous presumption only.
In his Guru Reform Notebook Satsvarupa Maharaj admits:
“I have come to realise my participation in a grave error. I have allowed myself to be worshiped and regarded on the level of maha-bhagavata paramahamsa, far above my “non-guru” God brothers. As a result, I have slighted and offended my Godbrothers -and Srila Prabhupada- in various ways. And I have mistrained my disciples in these matters.”
The Lilamrita is therefore imbued with Satsvarupa’s personal misconception and thus cannot be an authorised biography of Srila Prabhupada.
Besides falling short describing a pure Mahabhagavata Devotee of Lord Krishna, the Lilamrita also very badly misrepresents Srila Prabhupada by indicating that Srila Prabhupada left his movement in the care of eleven chosen “successor-acaryas”. By advocating a bogus guru-system the Lilamrita has not only heavily deviated from Srila Prabhupada’s originally established ISKCON Society but the Lilamrita is also perverting Srila Prabhupada’s philosophy. The book puts forth ideas which contradict Srila Prabhupada’s statements. If one accepts the Lilamrita’s conclusions, one will be forced to subtly interpret Srila Prabhupada’s books in such a way that one may somehow be forced to correspond with the distorted understandings of the Lilamrita. The author quotes a mundane professor’s review of his books describing it as a “very human story, with a very human A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami.”(Prof. Hopkin)
“I invite the reader to enjoy the very real human life story of Srila Prabhupada, who is known in this volume as Abhay Charan”. Lilamrita 1 Intro. p.19, by the author himself.
The Lilamrita is also written in a low class style prose because it portrays Srila Prabhupada in a very mundane way by attempting to show that Srila Prabhupada becomes: fatigued, goes into ignorance, gets heart stroke, diseased, starves, suffers from old age, has imperfect senses, becomes drowsy, dozes off, made mistakes, etc.
LL1, p.286 “Bhaktivedanta Swami’s neighbours observed him coming home dead tired. He stayed around 11:00 and then became drowsy. The next morning Srila Prabhupada didn’t get up. He was exhausted. It became apparent that he was over-exerting himself”.
SB 3.2.3 “In the transcendental service there is no feeling of fatigue, because it is spiritual service and not on the bodily plane. Service on the bodily plane dwindles as the body grows older, but the spirit is never old. On the spiritual plane the service is never tiresome.”
LL1 p.287 “He (Srila Prabhupada) was dangerously old and not in strong health”.
SB 5.4.5 Another symptom of a liberated person is vijara, which indicates that he is not subjected to the miseries of old age.
LL1 p.194 “Abhay suddenly began reeling, half unconscious, overcome by the heat”.
BG 6.7 The devotee of the Lord is unaffected by the dualities of material existence, namely distress and happiness, cold and heat.
LL2 p.96 “Suddenly he was homeless as any derelict on the street. In fact, many of them …were more secure then he. If he couldn’t go to the loft, he had no place.” (This horrendous quote directly compares Prabhupada to a bum in the streets. Actually it contends that the bums and derelicts in the Bowery were even more secure than him).
Etc. etc. etc. etc. Since my list goes on for 39 pages, it is to much to include here. If someone, in the name of glorifying His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada, also criticizes him by attributing to him such mundane qualities as destitution, insecurity, vulnerability direction less, familial attachment, dependency on others, attainment of knowledge via material experiences, etc., then Srila Prabhupada’s spiritual quality is brought into question. Also interpreting the vedic literature minimises the authority of the vedas. Mixing the spiritual with the mundane allows the mundane to be accepted as spiritual, and the spiritual to be considered in a mundane manner. The Lilamrita is not only unbonafide and unauthorised but also very offensive because the author portrays Srila Prabhupada in such a way, that the reader might get the wrong impression of Srila Prabhupada as a mere mortal being (human swami), or just another of the many Indian hippie-gurus who came to the West to save some freaked-out Western drug-addicts and hippies.
The Lilamrita’s description does not sound very glorious when it proceeds to delineate the pure devotee’s activities and qualities, from its incomplete and imperfect vision, which regularly is found to contradict that of Sastra (Srimad Bhagavatam )
The Lilamrita also refers to the bona fide spiritual master, Srila Prabhupada as “Abhay”. The authors of the Lilamrita are initiated disciples of Srila Prabhupada, but unfortunately the have the boldness to refer to their guru as “Abhay”. It is no wonder that the reader of this book consider Srila Prabhupada a “very human swami with a very human story”.
Srila Satsvarupa Maharaj says that he does not like the flowery prose style that is used , for example, in the gaudia-math tradition, and that Prabhupada wrote in a more down-to-earth, clear-cut prose. But in his own writings about his own spiritual master, Srila Prabhupada does not present mundane misconceptions about his guru. Srila Prabhupada referred to his spiritual master, His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Goswami Maharaja, in these exalted terms, even when he referred to a pastime of his spiritual master as a 6 month old child.
Accepting any mundane conception of the spiritual master and considering him a “very human swami” is dangerous. The scriptures describes such misconceptions of the guru as a hellish mentality .It is capable of uprooting the devotional creeper of even a staunch devotee, a nistha-bhakta. All true vaisnava devotees would view mundane statements about the acarya, especially if they were printed in a book distributed to over a million people, as maha-guru-aparadha.
Any biography of an acarya must be above suspicion, but the author of the Lilamrita admits in his Guru Reform Notebook that he has slighted and offended his Godbrothers -and Srila Prabhupada- in various ways by allowing himself to be worshiped and regarded on the level of maha-bhagavata paramahamsa which was a grave error. Satsvarupa a maha-guru-aparadhi.
If an author is not actually authorised by Krishna, the nectar of transcendental lila he seems to be writing about will actually produce results opposed to nectar. Perhaps this is the cause of the authors permanent and constant sickness over the many years. Instead of watering the seed, the Lilamrita is “Planting The Weed”. No sane and knowledgeable reader of the Lilamrita could consider its author either empowered or free from conditional defects, which are requirements, as quoted by the author himself. We therefore must reject this Lilamrita, because of so many contamination’s with in it. It gives a completely distorted view of Srila Prabhupada’s spiritual activities and erroneously speculates about the emotions of His Divine Grace.
If the BBT publishers have any regard for Srila Prabhupada as a nitya-siddha devotee, then they will declare the Lilamrita as unbonafide and unauthorised and will prohibit it from being further printed. It first has to be corrected and redone in a proper manner, eliminating the completely distorted mundane view, of Srila Prabhupada, presently given.
The book took birth during the heyday of the zonal acarya fervor. The eleven self appointed zonal acaryas deceived themselves into thinking that they were pure gurus despite their bad habits, offences and deviations. The Lilamrita’s mundane portrayal of Srila Prabhupada is the inevitable product of accepting ordinary conditioned souls as liberated maha-bhagavatas equal to Srila Prabhupada.
yours, in the service of Srila Prabhupada
Urdhvaga das
Please also see: The Lilamrta A Review & Philosophical Analysis By Sriman Yasodanandana dasa, 1996
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The real problem is that the zonal acaryas scam created a several philosophical deviations. THey have in fact covered the Bhagavat viddhi path as described in S>B> 1.2.18, by the false propaganda as to the alleged need to have an ISKCON diksa guru (rubber stamped imposter) in order to connect one to the Acarya, Srila Prabhupada. This nonsense lie is the real stumbling bloc in the devotional (?) pursuit of all the post 1977 “initiated” ISKCON devotees. The diksa guru deviation with all the consequences (the multiples schisms), the social and emotional disruption, but most important causing deep spiritual longterm bewilderement of the poor jiva soul! Shame on them, and their nonsense supporters. I was also one of them, up to the point I read about all this, then just after one day, I did reject all this bhogus gurus and their dirty business. Thank You dear prabhus Prabhupadanugas for Your merciful explanations about all this!
pamho prabhupadanugas
agtACBSP
we are glad to see at the end the real truth comes out!
To write transcendental literature one must be liberated therefore after 3 decades why i’m still not inspired to read it and i was asking myself how is it possible that i can’t read it properly?
So thank you prabhus today everything is clear about that, SRILA PRABHUPADA as a transcendental vaisnava visionary knew already what was going to happen to the eleven bhogus gurus.
It is very sad to notice that the few survivors still don’t understand that after unlimited defeats, dishonour and suffering all over the world they still don’t surrender to the final order.
Prabhupada is a first class rasika Vaisnava, worthy to be worshiped for the next 9500 years of kali-yuga.
One acharya, HDG VISNUPADA PARAMAHAMSA 108 SRI SRIMAD ACBSP KI JAI eternally at your service through the real devotees.
ki jaya
ys seva das
haribol
Hare Krsna
I would like to ask a question…and I hope no-one takes it the wrong way…but I’m curious to know if anyone can give me a satisfactory answer.
Here goes….If Srila Prabhupada knew what would happen with these 11 Ritvik Acaryas, (as I have read in some devotees articles)..then why did he appoint those 11…were there no better disciples to give this important service to?
I was trying to compare this situation to Jesus’s situation, where he knew that Judas would betray him and he knew that Peter would deny him….So dear devotees, how can I understand this point.
Thank you
ys Suvarna
@Suvarna Manjari dasi
on 15. July 2011 at 12:25 pm said:
“If Srila Prabhupada knew what would happen with these 11 Ritvik Acaryas, (as I have read in some devotees articles)..then why did he appoint those 11…were there no better disciples to give this important service to?”
1) Ritvik Acaryas is a misnomer, thus never used by Srila Prabhupada who was accomplished in his Sanskrit usage. Hrdayananda Dasa Goswami who is also a sanskrit scholar says ….
” … terms such as rtvig-guru and rtvig-acarya simply do not exist. […] In other words our friends are proposing something that does not exist in vedic culture.”
I am sure Srila Prabhupada had his aspirations for his disciples to be acaryas (teachers) but to use this term to describe the disastrous 11 is inappropriate.
2) Advanced devotees, know what is past, present and future. (tri-kala-jna)
“That is the point: how they could see past, present, and future so nicely. The sages were known as tri-kala-jna. Tri means three. There is almost similarity, tri and three. Tri is Sanskrit, and three is English or Latin, but there is similarity. Tri-kala-jna. Tri means three, and kala means time. Time is experienced by three ways: past, present and future. Time limitation, past, present and… Whenever you speak of time, it is past, present or future. So the sages in those days were tri-kala-jna. Tri-kala-jna means they could understand, they could know what was in the past, what there shall be in the future, and what is at present.”
(Srimad-Bhagavatam 12.2.1 — San Francisco, March 18, 1968)
Sadaputa prabhu in an essay, “Time Travel and Consciousness” (BTG #41-05, 2007) says ..
“… at Princeton University an extensive series of successful remote-viewing experiments was carried out under the direction of Robert Jahn, one-time head of the Princeton School of Engineering. The surprising feature of these results is that percipients were able to obtain information equally well from the past, present, or future — an ability known in Sanskrit literature as tri-kala-jna (“three times knowing”).”
However there is a difference between tri-kala-jna and sarva-jnah which is omniscience, (all knowing). Krishna is sarva-jnah as are some of the universal administrators (demi-gods), like Yamaraja.
Since Srila Prabhupada always presented himself as Krishna’s servant who carries out his masters orders, we can presume that he specifically choose those 11 because this was Krishna’s desire. Leaving success or failure in Krishna’s hands.
Dear Suvarna Manjari devi
Yes, you are right, it’s a bit curious indeed, if we don’t know the whole story.
First of all, the eleven were mostly already GBCs working as ritviks to help Srila Prabhupada and also be the leaders and older devotees for the rest.
And as long Srila Prabhupada walked the planet they would try to cooperate and do as good as they can, even there was a lot of power struggle among them. But what Prabhupada should do, they were the best to lead the rest, for the time being.
For years each one of them would act as a ritvik giving initiation in the name of Srila Prabhupada, and it worked out quite fine, since Srila Prabhupada would be the swan between all these geese, and was able to cool them down and lead them to spread the holy name all over the world.
He just hoped they would not do the same mistake like his own godbrothers have done in the gaudiya matha, it is hope against hope, and he gave them the chance and freedom to make it better than his own godbrothers.
But as we can see after nearly 35 years, they did the same mistake, they just fell in the same trap and loved to be guru and be worshiped, that’s why there is downfall. Isn’t it a pity, isn’t it a shame ( George Harrison ).
To have the desire to be guru, to be leader, to be big brushy Bill, is already the wrong path, and a lovely highway to hell, or at least the best way to meet maha maya and be washed away from spiritual development.
Sorry but that’s the way it goes, at least Srila Prabhupada is pointing it out this wrong understanding of guruship in all his books, better you read them all, then there are no more questions, but only wonderful answers.
Yours
Bhanumatinath
pamho prabhus agtACBSP
hare krsna
SRILA PRABHUPADA appointed those eleven priests even if he knew what was going to happen to them because he had no other choice for spreading Krishna consciousness in the western countries.
Engage the dirty to remove the dirty. SRILA PRABHUPADA used to say that ordinary people get ajnata sukrti benefit even by hearing about the mistakes of the 11 bhogus gurus because they get the chance to hear about SRI KRISHNA.
And when all the dirty things come out one sees things as they are.
SRILA PRABHUPADA is completely free from material contamination of this age therefore he could see past present and future and predicted many things also like another tri kala jna did HDG JESUS CHRIST because both of them are saktya avesha avataras beyond the factor of time.
Therefore they could see, we are still blind until we get suddha nam then everything will be clear – by the mercy of HDG JESUS and HDG ACBSP.
ki jaya
ys
seva das
haribol
Dear Devotees,
AgtSP!
Thank you for your responses. It’s great to be able to ask questions to devotees and to hear from devotees.
Hare Krsna!
ys Suvarna