AINDRA PRABHU SPEAKS
Krishnachandra Dasa, Vrindavan, Oct 29 2010 — Many devotees believe Aindra Prabhu to be not so interested in the practical side of Krishna Consciousness, well at least until his “To Hell With” speech last year…
This opinion of Aindra Prabhu would have been true some years ago but over the last five odd years he became more and more interested in the practical issues that face devotees caused by an increasingly materialistic ISKCON leadership.
As I have been seeking ways in which to weaken the GBC and in particular the Vrindavan’s Gurukula’s hold on ISKCON Vrindavan in order to protect Aindra Prabhu’s home and his 24 Hour Kirtan Program he grew more interested in my efforts and although I did not involve him directly I kept him very well informed of my various activities.
As I developed my website “PrabhupadaVision.com” he began to think of writing articles that I could post for him on my website so he could become involved in dealing with the problems that we all face in our Krishna Consciousness Movement, caused by the errant GBC, Rubber Stamped Gurus and Apologistic devotees of ISKCON.
Following is his first and sadly only article as this new aspect of his life was cut short due to his untimely passing.
We would joke that he would never be able to use an alias, as his distinctive writing style would immediately give him away. However I managed to convince him to use an alias for this first article due to the sensitive nature of his tenure at the ISKCON Vrindavan Temple.
He wanted me to edit the following article, however, since he is no longer present and would not be able to micro manage any attempt at editing his work, I decided to publish it unedited. Although I use the alias that he wanted, I believe that now, as he is no longer present, and does not have to face any backlash for his thoughts, he should speak for himself.
Yours in the service of my dear friend Aindra Prabhu and Srila Prabhupada
Krishnachandra Dasa
RELIGIO-INSTITUTIONAL PSYWAR
[Principles of psychological disempowerment]
1. Convince the enemy [us, the laity] that there is no war – so we see no cause for alarm.
2. Make us believe that they [the institutional power elite] are stronger than they really are, and make us believe that we [the grass roots contingency] are weaker than we really are.
3. Hide the truth – cover-up, distort, lie, confuse, falsify . . . divert, pervert, put down, and demonize the truth . . . to manipulate the history, present, and future of society.
4. Quell the resistance before it has a chance to raise its ugly head. Slander, scorn, and/or eliminate dissenters [the audacious few who break the code of silence] to demoralize further potential protests.
5. Intimidation – compel by unilateral communication of increasingly ever-constraining institutional law. Supplant multi-angular philosophical discussion with sophistical dogma.
The institutional power elites are small in number [potentially weak] but at present considerably organized and dominant – though not very popular. We, the unvoiced majority, are potentially powerful but presently misinformed, under-educated, apathetic, obsequious, disarrayed, and disorganized – too busy with our dumbed-down pursuit of our daily fare to think very deeply about anything.
The power elites, by exercising their political leverage, have quite a handle on the temporal institutional facilities [men, money, social and organizational infrastructure, media (spin control), etc.] They are parasitic in behavior, fat, corrupt, speculative, deceitful, increasingly sluggish, and paranoid. We the laity control very little of the institutional hardware. It will be very difficult for us to erect a power structure as they have to counter their political advantage within the context of “their” establishment. Yet those of us who are awake to the power elite’s misguided agenda to stealthily hijack, dysfunctionalize, and derail, from within, the Krishna consciousness movement by incremental trans-sectarian interfaith homogenization can and must assiduously acquaint ourselves and others with the true principles of sampradaya as per the gaudiya-siddhanta according to the statements of A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada and the previous acaryas.
WAKE UP PRABHUS! EVERYONE WAKE UP!
Everything is not alright. We have been and are being purposely steered off course. Do not acquiesce to any so-called leader’s [or any group of so-called leaders’] deviant philosophical misconstructions. Understand the issues: errant material control systems, corporatization, centralization, bureaucratization, social liberalization, rubberstamped guruship, psychologically coerced communal compliance, marginalization of nama-sankirtana, contractual institutional commitment, etc. Understand the ramifications: guru-avajna; crippling of individual striving, creativity, and expression; decline of pure devotional ethos into obscurity, vulnerability to broad-scope multi-level globalist infiltration.
They rely on our ease-loving ignorance, our tendency to gravitate through the supposed path of least resistance, and our lazy disinclination to stand up against all odds to fight for truth on behalf of our predecessor acaryas. We cannot blame anyone except ourselves for our lack of Krishna consciousness. We must think with our own minds – not with theirs. Understand their tactics. Increased awareness of the truth brings with it increased spiritual power. Increased spiritual power puts time on our side. That is our strength.
Temporal institutional might does not make right. Even if the clandestine manipulators of institutional affairs are able to nefariously usurp the external institutional set-up, they can neither usurp our souls nor will they ever win our heartfelt comraderie. It is time for revolution – a revolution of consciousness. Let the institutional power brokers beware.
The increasing numbers of we who are on to their antics will have revolution with or without their consent or cooperation. The biggest bubble of maya can doubtlessly be burst by the minutest pinprick of genuine Krishna consciousness. The critical mass of our spark-like grass-roots Krishna consciousness will ultimately prevail and conflagrate their insinuative billowing-cotton-like mayic institutional tyranny.
A CALL TO ARMS
1. Intelligently fight institutional maya with the most powerful weapon of the Holy Name.
2. Form local daily nama-sankirtana cells world-wide.
3. Regularly congregate for prolonged mass hari-nama-sankirtan demonstrations.
4. Start chanting a minimum of one lac of Holy Names daily.
5. Confront local, regional, and zonal institutional authorities and convince them to do the same – its either shape up or ship out.
6. Organize a grass roots signature campaign to express the general lack of confidence in the current institutional leadership.
7. Transition from the problem-think to the solution-think mind-set.
8. Be Krishna conscious in all circumstantial success or failure.
If we are not part of the solution – we’re part of the problem.
The solution is simple [for the simple]: Harer-namaiva-kevalam.
Take shelter of the Holy Name as your only business.
Nothing to lose – everything to gain.
Dina Bhakta Dasa
This is a very powerful article which really is an accurate analysis of the situation. I will definitely re-visit this article from time to time as it clearly points out the deliberate and conspiratorial nature of these demonic misfits and the calculated, highly organized and mendacious nature of their scheming minds.
There was some controversy over Aindra Prabhu’s ‘book’ some years ago and many devotees expressed some horror at it’s ‘rasa lila’ content (which is altogether understandable). Aindra Prabhu was a very renounced soul and to write with such erudition and clarity (as the article above) is really quite impressive and inspiring as he is ‘deconstructing their whole deceitful plan’ so devotees can be forewarned and wary of them, instead of becoming another victim or casualty.
This article certainly gives a different understanding of Aindra Prabhu and I have always felt that he had a clear understanding of the ‘material dynamic’ and also the ‘spiritual dynamic’ together as Krishnachandra Prabhu has also expressed in his many articles on the Prabhupada Vision website. If one remains ignorant of how the world works, and the evil that is a manifestation of greed and envy it will most certainly make us just another victim.
I am sure that the power of the Holy Name brings with it a great deal of realization, so I certainly would not try and sit in judgement of someone such as Aindra Prabhu as he is not here to defend himself and I myself do not say one lac of The Lords Name daily (but do complete 18 rounds, at least several days ahead) and would certainly add that ‘he was definitely part of the solution!’ and not just ‘one dimensional’ in terms of an avadhuta type of personality.
We need more devotees such as Krishnachandra and Aindra Prabhu’s so that the deliberate and calculated deviations which form the ever-present ‘murky world of FISKCON’ can be exposed and put under the microscope for the benefit of all the sincere spiritual aspirants and followers of His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada!
Hare Krishna Prabhu,
Please accept my humble obeisances.
The reference made in point 3 and 4 under “A call to Arms” are of particular importance.
3. Regularly congregate for prolonged mass hari-nama-sankirtan demonstrations.
4. Start chanting a minimum of one lac of Holy Names daily.
The 1 lac chanting of Holy Names is congregational (sankirtana) chanting on the streets. This can be done by a group of devotees who never let torch of Harinama Sankirtana extinguish in the local jurisdiction.
Ys
Nitai Chand Dasa
Sudarsana Das Vanacari: There was some controversy over Aindra Prabhu’s ‘book’ some years ago and many devotees expressed some horror at it’s ‘rasa lila’ content (which is altogether understandable).
Mahesh: here is the info:
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=44156#comment-34337
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=44156#comment-34344
What was Srila Prabhupada’s instructions for initiations,specially for after his disappearance? Who is the present Diksha Guru of everyone who come to our Movement to seek “personal” association with?
Hare Krishna Prabhu,
Please accept my humble obeisances.
Aindra Prabhu has given a solution to the problem, the Harinama Sankirtana Revolution. We all know the problem and it exists since day 1 of Srila Prabhupada’s disappearance. However, what are we doing about it other than cursing the GBC? Let us again ignite the torch that Lord Caitanya took in thousands to the house of Chand Kazi. The Harinama Sankirtana Revolution will kill the demon residing within the likes of Chand Kazis.
We need to get out on the streets. You may wonder how is this going to resolve the problem. Harinama is contagious. Anyone who participates with sincerity will become part of it. The clout of the powerful will slacken when everyone starts going out on street Sankritana.
Nitai Chand Dasa: However, what are we doing about it other than cursing the GBC? Let us again ignite the torch that Lord Caitanya took in thousands to the house of Chand Kazi. The Harinama Sankirtana Revolution will kill the demon residing within the likes of Chand Kazis.
Mahesh: Nitai Chand Prabhu, you carry that ignited torch and show us by example. As the saying goes, “Example is better then precept”. Please send to this website your “selfies” with torch in hand so we can see what the effect is and how the IS_CON DEMONS are taking to the Ritvik System by your proposal.
Here is what Srila Prabhupada shows on how we accept PRACTICAL reasoning:
Prabhupada: You should judge by the result, not by sophisticated ideas.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/classes/bg/7/1-3/london/august/04/1971
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According to Vedic culture, one has to judge by the result. Not by if you simply talk nonsense, one has to accept. What is the result? Suppose if one says that “I have done very good business. I have earned so much money I have got in bank balance…” You can say all these thing. But one sees that a prosperous businessman has got a nice house, nice motorcar, his standard of living is very nice. But if he is loitering in the street, has no good dress, and if he advertises himself that “I am a very big businessman. I have got so much money,” who will believe him?
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/classes/sb/6/1/6/honolulu/june/08/1975
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Prabhupada: Meditation? That you can see from the result. You’ll find so many persons meditating, but see their life. PHALENA PARICIYATE. ONE HAS TO BE JUDGED BY THE RESULT. YOU HAVE WORKED VERY HARD AND SUPPOSED TO BE VERY RICH MAN, BUT IF I SEE THAT YOU HAVE NO NICE APARTMENT, NEITHER ANY CAR, NEITHER ANY OPULENCE, SO WHAT KIND OF BUSINESSMAN YOU HAVE EARNED? THAT CAN BE UNDERSTOOD IMMEDIATELY.
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Our PRACTICAL way forward is GO ON EXPOSING the Anti Ritvik demons as per Srila Prabhupada’s ORDER -and- our SERVICE to him : leave the results to Lord Krsna:
Everyone has his proprietory right in regard to prescribed duties, but should act WITHOUT ATTACHMENT TO THE RESULT; such disinterested obligatory duties doubtlessly lead one to the path of liberation.
Arjuna was therefore advised by the Lord to FIGHT AS A MATTER OF DUTY WITHOUT ATTACHMENT TO THE RESULT. His nonparticipation in the battle is another side of attachment. Such attachment never leads one to the path of salvation. Any attachment, positive or negative, is cause for bondage. Inaction is sinful. Therefore, FIGHTING AS A MATTER OF DUTY was the ONLY auspicious path of salvation for Arjuna.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/bg/2/47
Adi 1.35 The Spiritual Masters
The SERVICE of the spiritual master IS ESSENTIAL. IF THERE IS NO CHANCE TO SERVE THE SPIRITUAL MASTER DIRECTLY, A DEVOTEE SHOULD SERVE HIM BY REMEMBERING HIS INSTRUCTIONS. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SPIRITUAL MASTER’S INSTRUCTIONS AND THE SPIRITUAL MASTER HIMSELF. IN HIS ABSENCE, THEREFORE, HIS WORDS OF DIRECTION SHOULD BE THE PRIDE OF THE DISCIPLE.
731209SB.LA Lectures
So this Krsna consciousness movement is a challenge to all the rascals and fools, that’s all. SO THOSE WHO HAVE TAKEN THIS MOVEMENT VERY SERIOUSLY, THEY SHOULD BE VERY SOBER AND UNDERSTAND AT LEAST YOU MUST EXPOSE ALL THESE RASCALS. THAT WILL BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED BY KRSNA.
Thank you very much. (end)
Note: SO WE HAVE TO EXPOSE THEM. THEY ARE NOT LEADER; THEY ARE JACKALS. SO JACKALS CANNOT ANYMORE RULE OVER. THAT SHOULD BE OUR PROPAGANDA
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Prabhupada: No, it is Sanskrit. And in Bengal it is called vane asiya raja.(?) “In the forest a jackal has become king.” They are like that. Nila-varna-srigalavat.(?) When… There is big story about this jackal. I will tell you some. A jackal came in the village and he fell in the tub where, what is called, the water? No, no. The water man keeps the water for dipping, making
little bluish. For coloring. That blue, blue. So the washerman kept the dye water in a big tub, and the jackal fell in it. So jackal fell in it; he became blue, all blue. So he fled away, and all the animals said, “What is this animal? What is the animal? What is that animal? Oh?” All, even lion became surprised. “We have not seen this.” “So who are you, sir?” “I AM SENT BY GOD TO RULE OVER YOU.” “OH?” SO THEY BEGAN TO WORSHIP HIM AS GOD, AS LEADER. Then one day other jackals, they were crying, “Wa, wa,” but the jackals cannot stop. If others jackals cry, the jackal cannot stop. So he also began to “Wa, wa.” Oh, then, they, oh, this rascal is a jackal. Yavat kincin na bhasate. That these rascals are jackals. Now they are talking nonsense. We can detect that “Here is a jackal.” SO WE HAVE TO EXPOSE THEM. THEY ARE NOT LEADER; THEY ARE JACKALS. SO JACKALS CANNOT ANYMORE RULE OVER. THAT SHOULD BE OUR PROPAGANDA. NOT ONLY SCIENTIFIC, ALL POLITICAL THINGS, SOCIAL THINGS, EVERYTHING. THEY SHOULD BE ALL KICKED OUT. THEY SHOULD BE REPLACED BY KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS. THEN PEOPLE WILL BE HAPPY. THIS SHOULD BE OUR PROGRAM. Our, this propaganda means to make people happy. It is not a business, to make business and take some money. And so many jackals have been arrested and resigned in your… You know that? Many jackals have been obliged to resign their post in the government.
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SO WHEN YOU BECOME ACTUALLY PREACHER OF GOD CONSCIOUSNESS, YOU CANNOT MAKE ANY COMPROMISE. YOU MUST CALL THE SPADE A SPADE. Just like Prahlada Maharaja. Prahlada Maharaja is one of the mahajanas. Out of the twelve mahajanas, he’s one of them. Because he was very bold. He was not afraid of his demonic father. He chastised him in so many ways. But he was never afraid. So just like our people are being persecuted in Australia. You know? They have been put into jail because they are preaching Hare Krsna. SO THIS IS NOT VERY EASY THING, EASY-GOING. MY GURU MAHARAJA, BHAKTISIDDHANTA SARASVATI GOSVAMI MAHARAJA, HE DID NOT LIKE THAT HIS DISCIPLES WOULD BE EASY-GOING, CHEAP VAISNAVA.
Note: ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES THE TRUTH IS UNPALATABLE, ONE SHOULD NOT REFRAIN FROM SPEAKING IT.
Bg 10.4-5 P The Opulence of the Absolute
Asammoha, freedom from doubt and delusion, can be achieved when one is not hesitant and when he understands the transcendental philosophy. Slowly but surely he becomes free from bewilderment. Nothing should be accepted blindly; everything should be accepted with care and with caution. Ksama, forgiveness, should be practiced, and one should excuse the minor offenses of others. Satyam, truthfulness, means that facts should be presented as they are for the benefit of others. FACTS SHOULD NOT BE MISREPRESENTED. ACCORDING TO SOCIAL CONVENTIONS, IT IS SAID THAT ONE CAN SPEAK THE TRUTH ONLY WHEN IT IS PALATABLE TO OTHERS. BUT THAT IS NOT TRUTHFULNESS. THE TRUTH SHOULD BE SPOKEN IN A STRAIGHT AND FORWARD WAY, SO THAT OTHERS WILL UNDERSTAND ACTUALLY WHAT THE FACTS ARE. IF A MAN IS A THIEF AND IF PEOPLE ARE WARNED THAT HE IS A THIEF, THAT IS TRUTH. ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES THE TRUTH IS UNPALATABLE, ONE SHOULD NOT REFRAIN FROM SPEAKING IT. TRUTHFULNESS DEMANDS THAT THE FACTS BE PRESENTED AS THEY ARE FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHERS. THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF TRUTH.
Note: BUT YOU HAVE TO FIGHT. THEN YOUR GURU MAHARAJA WILL BE GLORIFIED.
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Prabhupada: Yes. That you have to prove. You can eulogize your Guru Maharaja, but you have to learn it and face the public and be strong to defend yourself. That is success. Not by praising your Guru Maharaja. You’ll praise your Guru Maharaja. That is not very difficult. BUT BE VICTORIOUS TO THE OPPOSING ELEMENTS. THEN YOU WILL PRAISE YOUR GURU MAHARAJA NICELY. AT HOME, YOU CAN PRAISE YOUR GURU MAHARAJA, AND GURU MAHARAJA BE SATISFIED, “OH, MY DISCIPLES ARE PRAISING ME.” THAT IS NOT VERY…. THAT IS GOOD. RESPECTFUL. THAT IS THE QUALIFICATION. BUT YOU HAVE TO FIGHT. THEN YOUR GURU MAHARAJA WILL BE GLORIFIED.
Hare Krishna Mahesh Prabhu,
I appreciate your effort in propagating the ritvik position. There is no doubt that we have to expose the deviants of parampara. But it cannot become our life.
All I am saying is that we have to prioritise our agenda. I have put another comment in Cash reward article. I request you to read.
I am not against what we all are doing. We have to bring to light anything that is not in alignment with Srila Prabhupada’s instruction. All I am raising is that we cannot devote our precious time for this continually.
Exposing deviants is not our mainstream agenda. Our fundamental goal is to propagate Krishna Consciousness among the people of Kaliyuga. I reckon you will agree here.
So, all I am saying in my previous comment is to take to Harinama Sankirtana as one of our goal as per the article. It is the best way to propagate Krishna Consciousness in this age. While doing this, the success of spreading Krishna Consciousness will show its light.
As per me your instruction for me to carry the torch. I am a minute devotee with many anarthas. I am trying to follow the instructions of Srila Prabhupada. I fail at every step, but, Srila Prabhupada’s words keep me on. For now, I do go out on Harinama Sankirtana twice in a week. So, I bear the torch twice in a week.
If exposing deviants was more important than preaching Krishna Consciousness then Srila Prabhupada would have put his energy there. We have to outshine the deviants by preaching just like Srila Prabhupada did with deviants at Gaudiya Math.
Nitai Chand Dasa Prabhu, each and every sincere and serious followers have their own ability and capability in the service to carry forward the Torch of Light to illuminate the Glory of our Jagat Guru His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada’s VANI which does include exposing the Deviants in the present Fiskcon world wide.
Yours Harinama Sankirtana twice in a week is very much encouraging, indeed. No doubt about that.
All Glories to Srila Prabhupada, the Commander-in-Chief of Sri Sri Krishna Chaitanaya Mahaprabhu’s Harinama Sankirtana Followers world wide who are serving SELFLESSLY.
OM TAT SAT.
Hare Krishna.
Hare Krishna Amar Prabhu,
Thanks for your encouraging words. Yes, we all should take forward the mission of Srila Prabhupada for his pleasure.
My question is why did Srila Prabhupada did not himself or by instructing his disciples to spent time in exposing the Gaudiya Math. I do not know of any such instructions. Although, there were early instances of Srila Prabhupada involving them in his preaching efforts. It is a different matter that it did not go ahead as we all know.
Nitai Chand Dasa: My question is why did Srila Prabhupada did not himself or by instructing his disciples to spent time in exposing the Gaudiya Math.
Mahesh: he did:
Srila Prabhupada’s Godbrothers
http://www.harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/12-07/editorials2260.htm
Analysis of Srila Prabhupada’s Letter to Rupanuga
http://harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/12-07/editorials2250.htm
Nitai Chand Prabhu, this business of exposing Gaudiya math is ALSO enshrined in the PURPORT of Caitanya Caritamrta:
TEXT 8
prathame ta’ eka-mata ācāryera gaṇa
pāche dui-mata haila daivera kāraṇa
SYNONYMS
prathame—in the beginning; ta’-however; eka-mata—one opinion; ācāryera—of Advaita Ācārya; gaṇa—followers; pāche—later; dui-mata—two opinions; haila—became; daivera—of providence; kāraṇa—the cause.
TRANSLATION
At first all the followers of Advaita Ācārya shared a single opinion. But later they followed two different opinions, as ordained by providence.
PURPORT
The words daivera kāraṇa indicate that by dint of providence, or by God’s will, the followers of Advaita Ācārya divided into two parties. Such disagreement among the disciples of one ācārya is also found among the members of the Gauḍīya Maṭha. In the beginning, during the presence of Oṁ Viṣṇupāda Paramahaṁsa Parivrājakācārya Aṣṭottara-śata Śrī Śrīmad Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura Prabhupāda, all the disciples worked in agreement; but just after his disappearance, they disagreed. One party strictly followed the instructions of Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura, but another group created their own concoction about executing his desires. Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura, at the time of his departure, requested all his disciples to form a governing body and conduct missionary activities cooperatively. He did not instruct a particular man to become the next ācārya. But just after his passing away, his leading secretaries made plans, without authority, to occupy the post of ācārya, and they split into two factions over who the next ācārya would be. Consequently, both factions were asāra, or useless, because they had no authority, having disobeyed the order of the spiritual master. Despite the spiritual master’s order to form a governing body and execute the missionary activities of the Gauḍīya Maṭha, the two unauthorized factions began litigation that is still going on after forty years with no decision.
Therefore, we do not belong to any faction. But because the two parties, busy dividing the material assets of the Gauḍīya Maṭha institution, stopped the preaching work, we took up the mission of Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura and Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura to preach the cult of Caitanya Mahāprabhu all over the world, under the protection of all the predecessor ācāryas, and we find that our humble attempt has been successful. We followed the principles especially explained by Śrīla Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura in his commentary on the Bhagavad-gītā verse vyavasāyātmikā buddhir ekeha kuru-nandana. According to this instruction of Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura, it is the duty of a disciple to follow strictly the orders of his spiritual master. The secret of success in advancement in spiritual life is the firm faith of the disciple in the orders of his spiritual master. The Vedas confirm this:
yasya deve parā bhaktir
yathā deve tathā gurau
tasyaite kathitā hy arthāḥ
prakāśante mahātmanaḥ
“To one who has staunch faith in the words of the spiritual master and the words of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the secret of success in Vedic knowledge is revealed.” The Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is being propagated according to this principle, and therefore our preaching work is going on successfully, in spite of the many impediments offered by antagonistic demons, because we are getting positive help from our previous ācāryas. One must judge every action by its result. The members of the self-appointed ācārya’s party who occupied the property of the Gauḍīya Maṭha are satisfied, but they could make no progress in preaching. Therefore by the result of their actions one should know that they are asāra, or useless, whereas the success of the ISKCON party, the International Society for Krishna Consciousness, which strictly follows guru and Gaurāṅga, is increasing daily all over the world. Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura wanted to print as many books as possible and distribute them all over the world. We have tried our best in this connection, and we are getting results beyond our expectations.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/adi/12/8
Hare Krishna Prabhu,
The purport reveals that preaching is the key. Srila Prabhupada states that we do not belong to any party because they were not preaching. So all ritviks should put energy in preaching through book distribution and Sankirtana.
Srila Prabhupada says in the purport that We have to judge every action by its result. So we as Prabhupadanugas need concerted effort to preach heavily to the extent that every book in the hand of Karmi is original BG and every street sees Prabhupadanugad singing and dancing. This will be our success and nightmare for the so called GBC.
The GBC do not see as threat anymore. They have easily set us in the category of blasphemers who break the 1st offence. (I do not mean we do). However, the perception has been set like that. The real result of our preaching will scare them.
Crypto Zionist Jew GBC did not feel threatened by the constant chanting of the Holy Names in Vrndavan Dham by Aindra Prabhu (and he was still living on FISKCON property) so your analysis is not correct. Only when he was to speak either by attempting to give a Srimad Bhagavatam class or by his writings did they feel threatened.
Most Vikarmi’s (not Karmi’s) haven’t got a clue when it comes to understanding the movement of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu at the onset of receiving a book, (this can take many years of following Srila Prabhupada’s Vani to become manifest) and even then it is a very small minority!
We do not give a f*** ( fig ) about the false perceptions of fools and rascals or what “category” the demons want to label us with and in reference to that I am a disciple and follower of Srila Prabhupada not a ‘label’ such as Ritvik! Their “nightmare” began when they poisoned Srila Prabhupada and this is compounded by the fact THAT THEY WERE CAUGHT OUT! so their nightmare they cannot wake up from and will take on a ‘catastrophic proportions’ at the time of death when their REAL NIGHTMARE WILL BEGIN!
Also, another point that Srila Prabhupada asks us to not associate with his God Brothers, respect them and understand that they are deviants. That’s it. He never tells to expose them or to preach that they are deviants of fallen. Did I miss anything?
Nitai Chand Dasa :Did I miss anything?
Mahesh: YES! prabhu – You can NOT avoid Srila Prabhupada’s CLEAR instructions:
Our PRACTICAL way forward is GO ON EXPOSING the Anti Ritvik demons as per Srila Prabhupada’s ORDER -and- our SERVICE to him : leave the results to Lord Krsna:
Everyone has his proprietory right in regard to prescribed duties, but should act WITHOUT ATTACHMENT TO THE RESULT; such disinterested obligatory duties doubtlessly lead one to the path of liberation.
Arjuna was therefore advised by the Lord to FIGHT AS A MATTER OF DUTY WITHOUT ATTACHMENT TO THE RESULT. His nonparticipation in the battle is another side of attachment. Such attachment never leads one to the path of salvation. Any attachment, positive or negative, is cause for bondage. Inaction is sinful. Therefore, FIGHTING AS A MATTER OF DUTY was the ONLY auspicious path of salvation for Arjuna.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/bg/2/47
Adi 1.35 The Spiritual Masters
The SERVICE of the spiritual master IS ESSENTIAL. IF THERE IS NO CHANCE TO SERVE THE SPIRITUAL MASTER DIRECTLY, A DEVOTEE SHOULD SERVE HIM BY REMEMBERING HIS INSTRUCTIONS. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SPIRITUAL MASTER’S INSTRUCTIONS AND THE SPIRITUAL MASTER HIMSELF. IN HIS ABSENCE, THEREFORE, HIS WORDS OF DIRECTION SHOULD BE THE PRIDE OF THE DISCIPLE.
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So this Krsna consciousness movement is a challenge to all the rascals and fools, that’s all. SO THOSE WHO HAVE TAKEN THIS MOVEMENT VERY SERIOUSLY, THEY SHOULD BE VERY SOBER AND UNDERSTAND AT LEAST YOU MUST EXPOSE ALL THESE RASCALS. THAT WILL BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED BY KRSNA.
Thank you very much. (end)
Note: SO WE HAVE TO EXPOSE THEM. THEY ARE NOT LEADER; THEY ARE JACKALS. SO JACKALS CANNOT ANYMORE RULE OVER. THAT SHOULD BE OUR PROPAGANDA
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Prabhupada: No, it is Sanskrit. And in Bengal it is called vane asiya raja.(?) “In the forest a jackal has become king.” They are like that. Nila-varna-srigalavat.(?) When… There is big story about this jackal. I will tell you some. A jackal came in the village and he fell in the tub where, what is called, the water? No, no. The water man keeps the water for dipping, making
little bluish. For coloring. That blue, blue. So the washerman kept the dye water in a big tub, and the jackal fell in it. So jackal fell in it; he became blue, all blue. So he fled away, and all the animals said, “What is this animal? What is the animal? What is that animal? Oh?” All, even lion became surprised. “We have not seen this.” “So who are you, sir?” “I AM SENT BY GOD TO RULE OVER YOU.” “OH?” SO THEY BEGAN TO WORSHIP HIM AS GOD, AS LEADER. Then one day other jackals, they were crying, “Wa, wa,” but the jackals cannot stop. If others jackals cry, the jackal cannot stop. So he also began to “Wa, wa.” Oh, then, they, oh, this rascal is a jackal. Yavat kincin na bhasate. That these rascals are jackals. Now they are talking nonsense. We can detect that “Here is a jackal.” SO WE HAVE TO EXPOSE THEM. THEY ARE NOT LEADER; THEY ARE JACKALS. SO JACKALS CANNOT ANYMORE RULE OVER. THAT SHOULD BE OUR PROPAGANDA. NOT ONLY SCIENTIFIC, ALL POLITICAL THINGS, SOCIAL THINGS, EVERYTHING. THEY SHOULD BE ALL KICKED OUT. THEY SHOULD BE REPLACED BY KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS. THEN PEOPLE WILL BE HAPPY. THIS SHOULD BE OUR PROGRAM. Our, this propaganda means to make people happy. It is not a business, to make business and take some money. And so many jackals have been arrested and resigned in your… You know that? Many jackals have been obliged to resign their post in the government.
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SO WHEN YOU BECOME ACTUALLY PREACHER OF GOD CONSCIOUSNESS, YOU CANNOT MAKE ANY COMPROMISE. YOU MUST CALL THE SPADE A SPADE. Just like Prahlada Maharaja. Prahlada Maharaja is one of the mahajanas. Out of the twelve mahajanas, he’s one of them. Because he was very bold. He was not afraid of his demonic father. He chastised him in so many ways. But he was never afraid. So just like our people are being persecuted in Australia. You know? They have been put into jail because they are preaching Hare Krsna. SO THIS IS NOT VERY EASY THING, EASY-GOING. MY GURU MAHARAJA, BHAKTISIDDHANTA SARASVATI GOSVAMI MAHARAJA, HE DID NOT LIKE THAT HIS DISCIPLES WOULD BE EASY-GOING, CHEAP VAISNAVA.
Note: ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES THE TRUTH IS UNPALATABLE, ONE SHOULD NOT REFRAIN FROM SPEAKING IT.
Bg 10.4-5 P The Opulence of the Absolute
Asammoha, freedom from doubt and delusion, can be achieved when one is not hesitant and when he understands the transcendental philosophy. Slowly but surely he becomes free from bewilderment. Nothing should be accepted blindly; everything should be accepted with care and with caution. Ksama, forgiveness, should be practiced, and one should excuse the minor offenses of others. Satyam, truthfulness, means that facts should be presented as they are for the benefit of others. FACTS SHOULD NOT BE MISREPRESENTED. ACCORDING TO SOCIAL CONVENTIONS, IT IS SAID THAT ONE CAN SPEAK THE TRUTH ONLY WHEN IT IS PALATABLE TO OTHERS. BUT THAT IS NOT TRUTHFULNESS. THE TRUTH SHOULD BE SPOKEN IN A STRAIGHT AND FORWARD WAY, SO THAT OTHERS WILL UNDERSTAND ACTUALLY WHAT THE FACTS ARE. IF A MAN IS A THIEF AND IF PEOPLE ARE WARNED THAT HE IS A THIEF, THAT IS TRUTH. ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES THE TRUTH IS UNPALATABLE, ONE SHOULD NOT REFRAIN FROM SPEAKING IT. TRUTHFULNESS DEMANDS THAT THE FACTS BE PRESENTED AS THEY ARE FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHERS. THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF TRUTH.
Note: BUT YOU HAVE TO FIGHT. THEN YOUR GURU MAHARAJA WILL BE GLORIFIED.
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Prabhupada: Yes. That you have to prove. You can eulogize your Guru Maharaja, but you have to learn it and face the public and be strong to defend yourself. That is success. Not by praising your Guru Maharaja. You’ll praise your Guru Maharaja. That is not very difficult. BUT BE VICTORIOUS TO THE OPPOSING ELEMENTS. THEN YOU WILL PRAISE YOUR GURU MAHARAJA NICELY. AT HOME, YOU CAN PRAISE YOUR GURU MAHARAJA, AND GURU MAHARAJA BE SATISFIED, “OH, MY DISCIPLES ARE PRAISING ME.” THAT IS NOT VERY…. THAT IS GOOD. RESPECTFUL. THAT IS THE QUALIFICATION. BUT YOU HAVE TO FIGHT. THEN YOUR GURU MAHARAJA WILL BE GLORIFIED.
Note: there is a saying, “if it walks like a duck,looks like a duck, quacks like a duck – THEN——- it is A DUCK.” So this business of AVOIDING to EXPOSE the bogus GBC and Gaudiya math is IDENTIFYING YOURSELF as being ONE OF THEM:
Nitai Chand Dasa : The GBC do not see as threat anymore. They have easily set us in the category of blasphemers who break the 1st offence. (I do not mean we do). However, the perception has been set like that. The real result of our preaching will scare them.
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Hare Krsna! Please do let us know how YOU have scared the bogus GBC by your ignited torch.
Nitai Prabhu,
Your comments are very much appreciated and well taken, indeed.
I am sure you agree with the FACT that the Vaishnava Tilaka on the Forehead is practically and particularly the Symbol of the followers / devotees of our Jagat Guru HDG. Srila Prabhupada belonging to the Brahma Sampardaya as a Vaishnava in the Western Hemisphere.
When some body dresses as a Vaishnava with the Tilka on forehead for a Personal Motivated Agenda to confuse and cheat massive people in order to utilize the well known famous Personality our Jagat Guru HDG. Srila Prabhupada for exploiting His Name and His VANI simply to fulfil their hidden agenda, the sincere and serious people like your goodself and so many others should remain silent by not exposing them that they are deviants in the dress of the Vaishnavas followers of HDG. Srila Prabhupada.
Is that what you are saying, Prabhu ?
If it is so, then, what kind of a service we are rendering to Srila Prabhupada’s mission if we can not protect and promote the Original Srila Prabhupadas’ VANI ?
Am I missing something, Prabhu ?
Yes, I agree with it when you say ; ” Srila Prabhupada says in the purport that We have to judge every action by its result. So we as Prabhupadanugas need concerted effort to preach heavily to the extent that every book in the hand of Karmi is original BG and every street sees Prabhupadanuga singing and dancing. This will be our success and nightmare for the so called GBC.”
However, I do not care for the GBC nightmare or not.
Certainly, seeing Prabhupadanuga Singing and Dancing in the Public pleases Srila Prabhupada.
OM TAT SAT.
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Nitai Chand Das Prabhu. Dandavat pranams.
Yes, congregational chanting is most important but it has to be seen in context. Vrndaban is the Holy Dham and devotees are converging there from around the Globe, so much facility for Aindra Das Prabhu to glorify The Lord with kirtan/bhajan. Where I live is a ‘virtual wasteland’ and I can go for years here without seeing a devotee. I would have liked to read much more of Aindra’s writings (as this would have benefited a worldwide devotee audience) but he was subjected to censure and harassment which was inflicted upon him by poisoners of Srila Prabhupada and their Crypto-Jew lapdogs!
Without ‘underestimating’ the power and potency of The Holy Name (by sincere souls) it is important to note that even as Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu was engaging in such transcendental Harinama pastimes this was at a time of the invasion of India by the Cypto Jew (homosexual) Mughal Emperor Babur who was a descendant of Taimur (a mass murdering psychopath) who murdered many Christians and defeated the Ottomans (around a century before) all financed and arranged by the Jews.
The Rothschilds (East India Company) plundering and pillaging of India found the ‘methods’ of Taimur a great ‘template’ for the destruction of Vedic culture and the mass murder of brahmanas and this is ‘ongoing and unabated’ with the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada, changing of his books, bullying and threatening devotees, appointment of Crypto-Jew perverts (and burying them in the Holy Dham!), unauthorized worship of demigods and ‘cooperation’ with Jew Rothschild bogus UN “Interfaith”, “bogus climate change hoax!” GMO “food control!” and the Rothschilds press AP/Reuters and *Huffington Post, also*Yahoo *(OATH / Verizon) $USD80 million Rothschilds shares!
The internet is also the ‘Brihat Mridanga’ as we are getting Srila Prabhupada’s message out there ‘Worldwide’ so that this Vedic culture can prevail against the Satanic Crypto Jew pretenders and agents of Rothschilds….the result however is up to Lord Sri Krishna and we should simply press on knowing that this is the will of The Lord! All of Srila Prabhupada’s instructions are most important and devotees are engaged in many different areas according to their abilities so no sincere service is more important than the other.
Nice to hear your thoughts!
Sudarsana Das Vanacari says: All of Srila Prabhupada’s instructions are most important and devotees are engaged in many different areas according to their abilities so no sincere service is more important than the other.
Mahesh: good point! Also – “one who tolerates mischievous activity, he is ALSO culprit .” Hence, one MUST EXPOSE the Anti Ritvik CROOKS:
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So this Krsna consciousness movement is a challenge to all the rascals and fools, that’s all. SO THOSE WHO HAVE TAKEN THIS MOVEMENT VERY SERIOUSLY, THEY SHOULD BE VERY SOBER AND UNDERSTAND AT LEAST YOU MUST EXPOSE ALL THESE RASCALS. THAT WILL BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED BY KRSNA.
Thank you very much. (end)
Madhya 5.90 The Activities of Saksi-gopala
A person who knows things as they are and still does not bear witness becomes involved
in sinful activities.”
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Prabhupada: But one who tolerates mischievous activity, he is also culprit. If you are mischievous, you are criminal. But if you tolerate mischievous activities that is also criminal.
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Prabhupada: So you all write very strongly, vehemently. Even it is little offensive, still these rascals should be taught good lesson. Yes. They’re misleading.
SB 4.14.41 The Story of King Vena
The great sages began to think that although a brahmana is peaceful and impartial
because he is equal to everyone, it is still not his duty to neglect poor humans. By such
neglect, a brahmana’s spiritual power diminishes, just as water kept in a cracked pot leaks
out.
SB 4.14.41 P The Story of King Vena
Brahmanas, the topmost section of human society, are mostly devotees. They are generally
unaware of the happenings within the material world because they are always busy in their
activities for spiritual advancement. Nonetheless, when there is a calamity in human
society, they cannot remain impartial. If they do not do something to relieve the
distressed condition of human society, it is said that due to such neglect their spiritual
knowledge diminishes
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Note:When one is infected by contaminated activities, his power, material or spiritual, reduces.
TEXT 5
nimiḥ pratidadau śāpaṁ
gurave ’dharma-vartine
tavāpi patatād deho
lobhād dharmam ajānataḥ
SYNONYMS
nimiḥ—Mahārāja Nimi; pratidadau śāpam—countercursed; gurave—unto his spiritual master,
Vasiṣṭha; adharma-vartine—who was induced to irreligious principles (because he cursed his
offenseless disciple); tava—of you; api—also; patatāt—let it fall; dehaḥ—the body; lobhāt—
because of greed; dharmam—religious principles; ajānataḥ—not knowing.
TRANSLATION
For unnecessarily cursing him when he had committed no offense, Mahārāja Nimi counter cursed
his spiritual master. “For the sake of getting contributions from the King of heaven,” he said, “you have lost your religious intelligence. Therefore I pronounce this curse: your body also will fall.”
PURPORT
The religious principle for a brāhmaṇa is that he should not be greedy at all. In this case, however, for the sake of more lucrative remunerations from the King of heaven, Vasiṣṭha neglected Mahārāja Nimi’s request on this planet, and when Nimi performed the sacrifices with other priests, Vasiṣṭha unnecessarily cursed him. When one is infected by contaminated activities, his power, material or spiritual, reduces. Although Vasiṣṭha was the spiritual master of Mahārāja Nimi, because of his greed he became fallen.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/sb/9/13/5
Mahesh Raja Prabhu. Some very powerful quotes from His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada! Thank you for that!
What was Aindra Prabhu opinion on the number one reason the GBC have disobeyed Srila Prabhupada,from which, other deviations had sprung out of? Under the Mentor-ship of the GM,
Iskcon GBC became their Surrogates,on what particular subject?
Hare Krsna , Nitai Chand Prabhu
We all try to follow Srila Prabhupada’s teaching and ritvik order. Everyone should be allowed to render service to the Lord to the best of his ability.
There may be rivalries and apparent competition between servants in performing service, but in the Vaikuṇṭha planets the service of another servant is appreciated, not condemned. This is Vaikuṇṭha competition.
There is no question of enmity between servants. Everyone should be allowed to render service to the Lord to the best of his ability, and everyone should appreciate the service of others. Such are the activities of Vaikuṇṭha. Since everyone is a servant, everyone is on the same platform and is allowed to serve the Lord according to his ability.
(SB 7.5.12)
Hare Krsna
Hare Krsna,
The Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is spreading all over the world with two aims—to establish Kṛṣṇa as the Supreme Personality of Godhead and to kill all the pretenders who falsely present themselves as avatāras.
The preachers of the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement must carry this conviction very carefully within their hearts and kill the demons who in many tactful ways vilify the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Kṛṣṇa.
If we take shelter of Nṛsiṁhadeva and Prahlāda Mahārāja, it will be easier to kill the demons who are against Kṛṣṇa and to thus reestablish Kṛṣṇa’s supremacy. Kṛṣṇas tu bhagavān svayam: Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Lord, the original Lord. Prahlāda Mahārāja is our guru, and Kṛṣṇa is our worshipable God. As advised by Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, guru-kṛṣṇa-prasāde pāya bhakti-latā-bīja. If we can be successful in getting the mercy of Prahlāda Mahārāja and also that of Nṛsiṁhadeva, then our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement will be extremely successful.
(SB 7.10.42.)
Hare Krsna
Hare Krsna
Srila Prabhupada stated that a very important mission of ISKCON was to smash false ‘gurus’:
“Similarly, this movement is advented to kill all the so-called yogis, svamis, avataras, rascals, philosophers, commentators. We have to kill.”
(Morning Walk, 1/5/74)
He then continues to explain that by “kill”, he means the use of criticism, rather than murder! (emphasis added):
“Kill means […] So this is our one of the items, to vanquish all these rascals, so-called svamis. They say that “Why you criticize others also?” Because we have to vanquish them. Now these people cannot rise. When there is sunrise, there is no use of these glowworms. So this Krsna consciousness movement is Krsna Himself. Therefore they must be finished, all over the world. So-called religionists, so-called philosophers, so-called avataras, svamis, yogis – finished. Our program should be like that.”
a) When Srila Prabhupada made this statement, he was specifically speaking of various false gurus outside ISKCON, and he states that this vanquishing of false gurus was only one of ISKCON’s programs.
b) However, if these false gurus are inside ISKCON itself, the very movement that is supposed to be smashing the false gurus, then ISKCON would no longer be “Krishna Himself”. And then vanquishing these false gurus would need to become the program for those who care about ISKCON. Because unless ISKCON itself is first saved, it cannot save anyone else.
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Complete writing:
https://www.iskconirm.com/docs/webpages/btp58-Saving-ISKCON.html
Hare Krsna
Hare Krsna
Will the results come automatically ?
Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura sings that our only desire should be to perform the duties of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. We should not be misled by the karma-mīmāṁsā philosophy, which concludes that if we work seriously the results will come automatically. This is not a fact. The ultimate result depends upon the will of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. In devotional service, therefore, the devotee completely depends upon the Lord and honestly performs his occupational duties. Therefore Prahlāda Mahārāja advised his friends to depend completely on Kṛṣṇa and worship Him in devotional service.
(SB 7.7.48)
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Hare Krsna