Srila Prabhupada v. The Ritviks | IRM

Back To Prabhupada Magazine, IRM, Issue 37 — In the last issue we presented a diagram summarizing the evidence from many previous BTP issues (“ISKCON’s Ritvik System Summarized”). This diagram showed that ISKCON’s supposed initiating gurus actually end up functioning at best as default ritviks (those who just conduct the initiation ceremony) who merely pretend to be diksa gurus.

In contrast, the system of accepting Srila Prabhupada as the diksa guru was the standard system of initiation in ISKCON before Srila Prabhupada’s physical departure, and all sides accept that it was bona fide. And the IRM simply proposes that this system continues. Under this system, many disciples never met Srila Prabhupada either before, during or after initiation. The characteristics of such a diksa guru system are detailed below.

The divya-jnana diksa guru
Accepting Srila Prabhupada as one’s diksa guru is the acceptance of the personality who, through his spiritual teachings provides the transcendental knowledge, or divya-jnana, which is diksa:

“Diksa actually means initiating a disciple with transcendental knowledge by which he becomes freed from all material contamination.”

(Sri Caitanya-caritamrita, Madhya-lila,4:111)

“Diksa, diksa. Di… Divya. There are two words, divya-jnana. Divya-jnana means transcendental, spiritual knowledge.”

(Srila Prabhupada Lecture, 22/2/1973)
Whereas, the GBC-elected ISKCON initiators, as explained on page 6 of this issue, admit to hardly providing any knowledge; directing their disciples instead to read Srila Prabhupada’s books.

The parampara guru
Accepting Srila Prabhupada as the diksa guru means accepting the diksa guru as directed by sastra (scripture) — one who is in the parampara (disciplic succession), does not fall down and always remains in the parampara:

“A bona fide spiritual master is in the disciplic succession from time eternal, and he does not deviate at all from the instructions of the Supreme Lord”.

(Bhagavad-gita As It Is, 4:42)
The GBC-elected ISKCON initiators, however, frequently do fall down, and, as evidenced in last issue’s diagram, do not even need to be in the parampara.

The qualified guru
Accepting Srila Prabhupada as the diksa guru means accepting the diksa guru as directed by sastra — one who is on the topmost level of Krishna consciousness:

“When one has attained the topmost position of maha-bhagavata, he is to be accepted as a guru and worshipped exactly like Hari, the Personality of Godhead. Only such a person is eligible to occupy the post of a guru.”

(Sri Caitanya-caritamrita, Madhya-lila, 24:330)
The GBC-elected ISKCON initiators, meanwhile, have been declared to not be situated on this level by ISKCON’s Sannyasa Minister, who accepts that none are “completely aware of the Supersoul”. (Duties of GBC and Guru in ISKCON’, 2006, & email: 30/8/2006, Prahladananda Swami)

The right guru
A consequence of the qualification standard just stated is that Srila Prabhupada is always carrying the Lord within his heart, whereas the GBC-elected ISKCON initiators are not — which means that Srila Prabhupada is the right person to be initiated by:

“Unless one is initiated by the right person, who always carries within his heart the Supreme Personality of Godhead, one cannot acquire the power to carry the Supreme Godhead within the core of one’s own heart.”

(Srimad-Bhagavatam, 10:2:18)

The liberating diksa guru
Accepting Srila Prabhupada as the diksa guru means accepting the diksa guru as directed by sastra — the personality who actually delivers the disciple. Whereas, in the last issue’s summary diagram, we presented evidence showing how the GBC-elected ISKCON initiators themselves have admitted that it is Srila Prabhupada, and not themselves, who delivers their “disciples”:

“The spiritual master initiates the disciple to deliver him, and if the disciple executes the order of the spiritual master and does not offend other Vaishnavas, his path is clear.”

(Sri Caitanya-caritamrita, Madhya-lila, 1:218)

The traditional diksa guru
All of the above demonstrate that accepting Srila Prabhupada as the diksa guru is driven by the standard idea of who should be accepted as one’s diksa guru — a fact that even ISKCON acknowledges:

“the “zonal acarya” system and the “posthumous ritvik” system — rest on adherence to the traditional idea of leadership.”

(Allegiance to Guru, to ISKCON and to Prabhupada, Ravindra-svarupa Dasa, 1998)
In contrast, ISKCON’s current system, as documented in last issue’s summary diagram, consists of de facto ritviks “pretending” to be diksa gurus. This charade is not taught by Srila Prabhupada or any scripture, and is therefore non-standard and a concoction.

Conclusion
The debate over the guru issue between the GBC and the IRM has been framed by the former as being one of “diksa v. ritvik”. Indeed, one ISKCON guru, Danavir Goswami, has even titled his paper, which specifically addresses the issue, as “Diksa or Ritvik” (answered here:
www.iskconirm.com/ danavir.htm). This paper claims that the GBC are advocating the system of diksa guru in opposition to a ritvik system which “eliminates the diksa guru”. However, the facts presented above, together with the evidence from previous issues, leads to a startling conclusion that turns the debate between the IRM and the current GBC completely on its head. Thus, it is the GBC, and not the IRM, who are proposing a system of ritviks pretending to be diksa gurus, instead of real diksa gurus; and it is the IRM, and not the GBC, who are proposing a standard diksa guru system, with a real diksa guru! (See diagram above). Therefore, if the GBC want to prohibit “ritvikvada” from ISKCON, they actually need to prohibit their de facto ritviks from masquerading as diksa gurus and instead promote the real diksa guru, Srila Prabhupada! So devotees need to choose:
Srila Prabhupada or the ritviks (ISKCON gurus)?!

Please chant Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare – and be happy!

Comments

  1. It is amusing how this IRM ritvik boys come up with this silly chart
    diagram to prove their points. If one looks at the IRM’s web site
    it tells about how one has defeated the other and how BIG the victor’s
    false ego is. It’s false ego personified on display. When Srila Prabhupada
    chastised his godbrothers he didn’t write a book on it nor made it his
    life mission. He preached Krsna Consciousness. That is the difference.

    Here is a translated narration and comments by Srila Prabhupada on
    Guru and the goal of human life. One should read the whole chapter
    in the Srimad Bhagavatam.

    Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 8, Part 3, Chapter 24, First print 1976.

    TEXT 46
    =======

    The King said: By the grace of the Lord, those who have lost
    their self-knowledge since time immemorial, and who because of
    this ignorance are involved in a material, conditional life full of
    miseries, obtain the chance to meet the Lord’s devotee. I accept
    that Supreme Personality of Godhead as the supreme spiritual
    master.

    Purport
    =======
    The Supreme Personality of Godhead is actually the supreme spiritual
    master. The Supreme Lord knows everything about the suffering of the
    conditioned soul, and therefore He appears in this material world, sometimes
    personally, sometimes by an incarnation and sometimes by authorizing a
    living being to act on His behalf. In all cases, however, He
    is the original spiritual master who enlightens the conditioned souls who
    are suffering in the material world. The Lord is always busy helping the
    conditioned souls in many ways. Therefore He is addressed here as
    paramo gurur bhavan. The representative of the Supreme Personality of
    Godhead who acts to spread Krsna consciousness is also guided by the
    Supreme Lord to act properly in executing the Lord’s order. Such a person
    may appear to be an ordinary human being, but because he acts on
    behalf of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the supreme spiritual
    master, he is not to be neglected as ordinary. It is therefore said,
    acaryam mam vijaniyat: an acarya who acts on behalf of the Supreme
    Personality of Godhead should be understood to be as good as the
    Supreme Lord Himself.

    saksad dharitvena samasta-sastrair
    uktas tatha bhavyata eva sadbhih
    kintu prabhor yah priya eva tasya
    vande guroh sri-caranaravindam

    Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura has advised that the spiritual master acting
    on the Supreme Lord’s behalf must be worshiped as being as good as
    the Supreme Lord, for he is the Lord’s most confidential servant in
    broadcasting the Lord’s message for the benefit of the conditioned souls
    involved in the material world.

    Text 47
    =======
    In hopes of becoming happy in this material world, the foolish
    conditioned soul performs fruitive activities that result only in
    suffering. But by rendering service to the Supreme Personality of
    Godhead, one becomes free from such false desires for happiness.
    May my supreme spiritual master cut the knot of false desires from
    the core of my heart.

    PURPORT
    =======

    For material happiness, the conditioned soul involves himself in
    fruitive activities, which actually put him into material distress.
    Because the conditioned soul does not know this, he is said to be in avidya,
    or ignorance. Because of a false hope for happiness, the conditioned soul
    becomes involved in various plans for material activity. Here Maharaja
    Satyavrata prays that the Lord sever this hard knot of false happiness
    and thus become his supreme spiritual master.

    TEXT 48
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    One who wants to be free of material entanglement should take
    to the service of the Supreme Personality of Godhead and give up
    the contamination of ignorance, involving pious and impious activities.
    Thus one regains his original identity, just as a block of
    gold or silver sheds all dirt and becomes purified when treated
    with fire. May that inexhaustible Supreme Personality of Godhead
    become our spiritual master, for He is the original spiritual master
    of all other spiritual masters.

    PURPORT
    =======

    In human life one is meant to undergo austerity to purify one’s existence.
    Tapo divyam putraka yena sattvam suddhyet. Because of contamination
    by the modes of material nature, one continues in the cycle of
    birth and death (karanam guna-sango ‘sya sad-asad-yoni-janmasu).
    Therefore the purpose of human life is to purify oneself of this contamination
    so that one can regain his spiritual form and not undergo this
    cycle of birth and death. The recommended process of decontamination
    is devotional service to the Lord. There are various processes for self-realization,
    such as karma, jnana and yoga, but none of them is equal to
    the process of devotional service. As gold and silver can be freed from all
    dirty contamination by being put into a fire but not merely by being
    washed, the living entity can be awakened to his own identity by performing
    devotional service (yat-sevaya), but not by karma, jnana or yoga. Cultivation
    of speculative knowledge or practice of yogic gymnastics will not be helpful.
    The word varnam refers to the luster of one’s original identity. The
    original luster of gold or silver is brilliant. Similarly, the original luster
    of the living being, who is part of the sac-cid-ananda-vigraha, is the
    luster of ananda, or pleasure. Anandamayo ‘bhyasat. Every living entity
    has the right to become anandamaya, joyful, because he is part of
    the sac-cid-ananda-vigraha, Krsna. Why should the living being be put
    into tribulation because of dirty contamination by the material modes of
    nature? The living entity should become purified and regain his
    svarupa, his original identity. This he can do only by devotional service.
    Therefore, one should adopt the instructions of the Supreme Personality
    of Godhead, who is described here as guror guruh, the spiritual master of
    all other spiritual masters.

    Even though we may not have the fortune to contact the Supreme Lord
    personally, the Lord’s representative is as good as the Lord Himself because
    such a representative does not say anything unless it is spoken by
    the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu therefore
    gives a definition of guru. Yare dekha, tare kaha ‘Krsna ‘- upadesa: the
    bona fide guru is he who advises his disciples exactly in accordance with
    the principles spoken by Krsna. The bona fide guru is he who has accepted
    Krsna as guru. This is the guru-parampara system. The original
    guru is Vyasadeva because he is the speaker of Bhagavad-gita and
    Srimad-Bhagavatam, wherein everything spoken relates to Krsna.
    Therefore guru-puja is known as Vyasa-puja. In the final analysis, the
    original guru is Krsna, His disciple is Narada, whose disciple is Vyasa,
    and in this way we gradually come in touch with the guru-parampara.
    ONE CANNOT BECOME A GURU IF HE DOES NOT NOT KNOW WHAT THE PERSONALITY of
    GODHEAD or HIS INCARNATION WANTS. The mission of the guru is the
    mission of the Supreme Personality of Godhead: to spread Krsna consciousness
    all over the world.

    TEXT 50
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    As a blind man, being unable to see, accepts another blind man
    as his leader, people who do not know the goal of life accept
    someone as a guru who is a rascal and a fool. But we are interested
    in self-realization. Therefore we accept You, the Supreme Personality
    of Godhead, as our spiritual master, for You are able to see
    in all directions and are omniscient like the sun.

    PURPORT
    =======

    The conditioned soul, being wrapped in ignorance and therefore not
    knowing the goal of life, accepts a guru who can juggle words and make
    some display of magic that is wonderful to a fool. Sometimes a foolish
    person accepts someone as a guru because he can manufacture a small
    quantity of gold by mystic yogic power. Because such a disciple has a
    poor fund of knowledge, he cannot judge whether the manufacture of
    gold is the criterion for a guru. Why should one not accept the Supreme
    Personality of Godhead, Krsna, from whom unlimited numbers of gold
    mines come into being? Aham sarvasya prabhavo mattah sarvam
    pravartate. All the gold mines are created by the energy of the Supreme
    Personality of Godhead. Therefore, why should one accept a magician
    who can manufacture only a small portion of gold? Such gurus are accepted
    by those who are blind, not knowing the goal of life. Maharaja
    Satyavrata, however, knew the goal of life. He knew the Supreme Personality
    of Godhead, and therefore he accepted the Lord as his guru.
    Either the Supreme Lord or His representative can become guru. The
    Lord says, mdm eva ye prapadyante mayam etam taranti te: “One can
    get relief from the clutches of maya as soon as he surrenders unto Me.”
    Therefore it is the guru’s business to instruct his disciple to surrender to
    the Supreme Personality of Godhead if he wants relief from the material
    clutches. This is the symptom of the guru. This same principle was instructed
    by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu: yare dekha, tare kaha ‘krsna ‘upadesa.
    In other words, one is advised not to accept a guru who does not
    follow the path of instruction given by Lord Krsna.

    Text 51
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    A materialistic so-called guru instructs his materialistic disciples
    about economic development and sense gratification, and because
    of such instructions the foolish disciples continue in the materialistic
    existence of ignorance. But Your Lordship gives knowledge
    that is eternal, and the intelligent person receiving such
    knowledge is quickly situated in his original constitutional
    position.

    PURPORT
    =======

    So-called gurus instruct their disciples for the sake of material profit.
    Some guru advises that one meditate in such a way that his intelligence
    will increase in regard to keeping his body fit for sense gratification.
    Another guru advises that sex is the ultimate goal of life and that one
    should therefore engage in sex to the best of his ability. These are the
    instructions of foolish gurus. In other words, because of the instructions of
    a foolish guru one remains perpetually in material existence and suffers
    its tribulations. But if one is intelligent enough to take instructions from
    the Supreme Personality of Godhead, as enunciated in Bhagavad-gita or
    the Sankhya philosophy of Kapiladeva, one can very soon attain liberation
    and be situated in his original position of spiritual life. The words
    nijam padam are significant. The living entity, being part and parcel of
    the Supreme Personality of Godhead, has the birthright to a position in
    Vaikunta loka, or the spiritual world, where there is no anxiety.
    Therefore, one should follow the instructions of the Supreme Personality
    of Godhead. Then, as stated in Bhagavad-gita, tyaktva deham punar
    janma naiti mam eti so ‘rjuna: after giving up one’s body, one will
    return home, back to Godhead. The Lord lives in the spiritual world in
    His original personality, and a devotee who follows the instructions of
    the Lord approaches Him (mam eti). As a spiritual person, such a devotee
    returns to the Personality of Godhead and plays and dances with
    Him. THAT IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF LIFE.

    TEXT 52
    =======

    My Lord, You are the supreme well-wishing friend of everyone,
    the dearmost friend, the controller, the Supersoul, the supreme
    instructor and the giver of supreme knowledge and the fulfillment
    of all desires. But although You are within the heart, the foolish,
    because of lusty desires in the heart, cannot understand You.

    PURPORT
    =======

    Herein the reason for foolishness is described. Because the conditioned
    soul in this material world is full of materialistic lusty desires, he cannot
    understand the Supreme Personality of Godhead, although the Lord is
    situated in everyone’s heart (isvarah, sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese ‘rjuna
    tisthati). It is because of this foolishness that one cannot take instructions
    from the Lord, although the Lord is ready to instruct everyone both externally
    and internally. The Lord says, dadami buddhi-yogam tam yena mam upayanti te.
    In other words, the Lord can give instructions on devotional
    service by which one can return home, back to Godhead. Unfortunately,
    however, people do not take this devotional service. The Lord,
    being situated in everyone’s heart, can give one complete instructions on
    going back to Godhead, but because of lusty desires one engages himself
    in materialistic activities and does not render service to the Lord.
    Therefore one is bereft of the value of the Lord’s instructions. By mental
    speculation one can understand that one is not the body but a spirit soul,
    but unless one engages in devotional service, the real purpose of life is
    never fulfilled. The real purpose of life is to go back home, back to Godhead,
    and live with the Supreme Personality of Godhead, play with the
    Supreme Personality of Godhead, dance with the Supreme Personality of
    Godhead and eat with the Supreme Personality of Godhead. These are
    different items of ananda, spiritual happiness in spiritual variegatedness.
    Even though one may come to the platform of brahma-bhata and
    understand his spiritual identity by speculative knowledge, one cannot
    enjoy spiritual life without understanding the Supreme Personality of
    Godhead. This is indicated here by the word abhista-siddhih. One can
    fulfill the ultimate goal of life only by engaging in devotional service to
    the Lord. Then the Lord will give one proper instructions on how to go
    back home, back to Godhead.

    TEXT 53
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    O Supreme Lord, for self-realization I surrender unto You, who
    are worshiped by the demigods as the supreme controller of everything.
    By Your instructions, exposing life’s purpose, kindly cut the knot
    from the core of my heart and let me know the destination of my life.

    PURPORT
    =======

    Sometimes it is argued that people do not know who is a spiritual
    master and that finding a spiritual master from whom to get enlightenment
    in regard to the destination of life is very difficult. To answer all
    these questions, King Satyavrata shows us the way to accept the Supreme
    Personality of Godhead as the real spiritual master. The Supreme Lord
    has given full directions in Bhagavad-gita about how to deal with everything
    in this material world and how to return home, back to Godhead.
    Therefore, one should not be misled by so-called gurus who are rascals
    and fools. Rather, one should directly see the Supreme Personality of
    Godhead as the guru or instructor. It is difficult, however, to understand
    Bhagavad-gita without the help of the guru. Therefore the guru appears
    in the parampara system. In Bhagavad-gita (4.34) the Supreme Personality
    of Godhead recommends:

    tad viddhi pranipatena
    pariprasnena sevaya
    upadeksyanti te jnanam
    jnaninas tattva-darsinah

    “Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master. Inquire
    from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realized
    soul can impart knowledge unto you because he has seen the truth.”

    Lord Krsna directly instructed Arjuna. Arjuna is therefore tattva-darsi
    or guru. Arjuna accepted the Supreme Personality of Godhead (param
    brahma param dhama pavitram paramam bhavan). Similarly, following
    in the footsteps of Sri Arjuna, who is a personal devotee of the Lord, one
    should accept the supremacy of Lord Krsna, as supported by Vyasa, Devala, Asita,
    Narada and later by the acaryas Ramanujacarya, Madhvacarya, Nimbarka and Visnusvami
    and still later by the greatest acarya, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. WHERE, THEN,
    IS THE DIFFICULTY IN FINDING A GURU? IF ONE IS SINCERE HE CAN FIND A GURU AND
    LEARN EVERYTHING.ONE SHOULD TAKE LESSONS FROM A GURU AND FIND THE GOAL OF LIFE.
    Maharaja Satyavrata, therefore, shows us the way of the mahajana.
    Mahajano yena gatah sa panthah. One should surrender to the Supreme
    Personality of Godhead (dasavatara) and learn from Him about the
    spiritual world and the goal of life.

    TEXT 61
    =======

    I offer my respectful obeisances unto the Supreme Personality
    of Godhead, who pretended to be a gigantic fish, who restored the
    Vedic literature to Lord Brahma when Lord Brahma awakened
    from sleep, and who explained the essence of Vedic literature to
    King Satyavrata and the great saintly persons.

    PURPORT
    =======

    Here is a summary of Satyavrata’s meeting with the fish incarnation of
    Lord Visnu. Lord Visnu’s purpose was to take back all the Vedic
    literatures from the demon Hayagriva and restore them to Lord Brahma.
    Incidentally, by His causeless mercy, the Lord spoke with Satyavrata.
    The word satyavratanam is significant because it indicates that those on
    the level of Satyavrata can take knowledge from the Vedas delivered by
    the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Whatever is spoken by the
    Supreme Lord is accepted as Veda. As stated in Bhagavad-gita, vedantakrd
    veda-vit: the Supreme Personality of Godhead is the compiler of all
    Vedic knowledge, and He knows the purport of the Vedas. Therefore,
    anyone who takes knowledge from the Supreme Personality of Godhead,
    Krsna, or from Bhagavad-gita as it is, knows the purpose of the Vedas
    (vedais ca sarvair aham eva vedyah). One cannot understand Vedic
    knowledge from the veda-vada-ratas, who read the Vedas and misconstrue
    their subject matter. One has to know the Vedas from the
    Supreme Personality of Godhead.

    Thus end the Bhaktivedanta purports of the Eighth Canto, Twentyfourth
    Chapter, of the Srimad-Bhagavatam, entitled “Matsya, the Lord’s
    Fish Incarnation.”

    – This commentation has been finished in our New Delhi center today,
    the first of September, 1976, the day of Radhastami, by the grace of the
    Supreme Personality of Godhead and the acaryas. Srila Narottama dasa
    Thakura says, tandera carana sevi bhakta-sane vasa janame janame
    haya, ei abhilasa. I am attempting to present Srimad-Bhagavatam in the
    English language by the order of my spiritual master, Srimad Bhaktisiddhanta
    Sarasvati Thakura, and by his grace the work of translation is gradually
    progressing, and THE European and American devotees who have joined the
    Krsna consciousness movement are helping me considerably. Thus we have expectations
    of finishing the great task before my passing away.

    All GLORIES TO SRI GURU AND GAURANGA.

    HARE KRSNA.

  2. Yep its true, after spending $15,000,000 suing Bangalore, and neglecting to spend even a few cents on broken down temples that need all kinds of repairs here in the USA, the GBC has not even got one brick for all the money they wasted on buying chicken salads for their lawyers.

    Its just like the moon landing, they spent all this money on absolutely nothing. The GBC did not even buy one single red clay brick for their $15m expense. In fact the GBC did not even obtain one single piece of Watermelon Bubble Gum for all their $15,000,000 expense. They got nothing, zip, zero.

    No wonder more and more ISKCON people in India have finally got fed up and abandoned contributing to the Mayapura Vedic Plantarium project, they are tired of seeing all their money going down the drain for nothing. So now the GBC cannot even get the India temples to give money for the planetarium, because people are saying — its all being spent on bogus lawyers instead, its not going for the planetarium, so we are not giving any more money for any projects. Hah hah!

    Now Amburish has to pay for the whole thing, of course he won’t be able to do that alone, so just see, they ruined their own building program by sending all the ISKCON money to buy chicken salads for lawyers. The GBC would rather buy chicken salads for lawyers than build their own building. For $15,000,000, they could have built five Vedic Planetariums, instead they cannot even finish their own building because they wasted $15,000,000 buying chicken salads. The good news is, many of their own followers are now seeing how foolish these leaders are and they are getting fed up as well. ys pd

  3. All glories to the guru-parampara!
    All glories to Shri Shri Nityananda-Gauranga!
    Please accept my humble obeisances!

    Dear Prabhu

    Just a thought on the ritvik-system: out of their mercy the acaryas are directly accessible on their appearance and disappearance day, even if they are not physically present. What if Prabhupada simply extended his mercy in order to be accessible all the time for those who want to follow him? Also, the demigods who are not physically present on the earth, are accessible to countless demigod worshipers every day. If I am not mistaken, Prabhupada said that he would continue to preach on such-and-such planet in this univers after his departure from earth. When the demigods are accessible, wouldn’t the acarya, being as good as the sum total of the demigods, be accessible, too, if he is still in the same univers in which the demigods that some earthlings are worshipping, exist?

    Namaste and kind regards

    Bernd

  4. Mahesh Raja says:

    Bernd: Just a thought on the ritvik-system: out of their mercy the acaryas are directly accessible on their appearance and disappearance day, even if they are not physically present.

    Mahesh: Anti Ritvik Crooks do not want their bunch of non-realized con artist sinful bogus “acaryas” to be jumped over:

    FISKCON has had PSYCHOPATH gurus, rapist gurus, murderer gurus, POISON giving gurus, PAEDOPHILE gurus, homo-sex gurus, drug gurus, alcoholic gurus, thug gurus, manipulative con man gurus, embezzler gurus, book changer gurus, mad man gurus, womaniser gurus,sex-yasi gurus, sin-yasi gurus, GBC conditioned soul factory produced rubber-stamped gurus and now – FISKCON’S (FDG) PROSTITUTE “GURUS”.

    Also see this:

    http://www.harekrsna.org/guru-photos.htm

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    Adi 1.35 The Spiritual Masters
    THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SPIRITUAL MASTER’S INSTRUCTIONS AND THE SPIRITUAL MASTER HIMSELF. IN HIS ABSENCE, THEREFORE, HIS WORDS OF DIRECTION SHOULD BE THE PRIDE OF THE DISCIPLE.

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    72-09-04. Letter: Jadurani
    THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND MY PICTURE. Therefore we should honor and keep pictures in that spirit. If we throw pictures this way and that way, that is offence. The name and picture are as good as the person in spiritual world.

    72-12-14. Letter: Tusta Krsna
    Next you ask if I am present in my picture and form? YES. IN FORM AS WELL AS IN TEACHINGS.

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    Paramahaṁsa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, when you are not present with us, how is it possible to receive instructions, for example, on questions that may arise?
    Prabhupāda: Well, the questions… Answers are there in my books.
    Paramahaṁsa: Other than that, for example, that we would ask you in…
    Prabhupāda: Yes.
    Paramahaṁsa: Do you direct us also through the heart? Besides the Paramātmā?
    Prabhupāda: If your heart is pure. Everything depends on purity.

    Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/conversations/1973/may/morning_walk_at_cheviot_hills_golf_course/los_angeles/may/13/1973

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    ONLY MAHA-BHAGAVATA IS DIKSA GURU: Srila Prabhupada is OUR Diksa Guru For As Long as His Books Are On The Planet
    Reply to Rocana’s article “A Ritvik Smokescreen”
    By Mahesh Raja and Prabhupadanugas
     
    A) If you are NOT on Transcendental platform you CAN NOT give TRANSCENDENTAL Knowledge.
    B) Madhyama means MIDDLE stage he is the RECEPIENT of Diksa whereas the Mahabhagavata is the Spiritual Master who TRANSFERS  Krsna in the heart of Madhyama Adhikari thus Diksa is described GRAPHICALLY SB10.2.18. And  Antya lila 4.192 – 4.194.
    C) Madhyama can NOT be a Diksa Guru as that would be OFFENSIVE chanting – means his spiritual life is FINISHED!
     
    Purport, Nectar of Instruction 5
    One should NOT become a spiritual master UNLESS he has attained the platform of uttama-adhikari.
    The 3rd Offence in chanting is to disobey the Spiritual Master so  if one becomes a spiritual master without being on Uttama Adhikari he will be committing offense.  
     
    NoD 8 Offenses to Be Avoided The offenses against the chanting of the holy name are as follows: (3) To disobey the orders of the spiritual master.
     
    Lectures: BG 7.1 – Ahmedabad, December 13, 1972 : 721213BG.AHM :  The madhyama-adhikārī should not touch the demons. Because maybe, he may turn again, be demon. Therefore one should be very careful to associate with the demons.
    D) Kanistha is a MATERIALLY CONTAMINATED hence he is unfit to give Diksa
    So how can we establish that Kanistha does NOT give diksa?
    Kanistha is a QUALIFIED Brahmana. But even such a QUALIFIED Brahmana is in MATERIAL CONTAMINATION. And because he has MATERIAL CONTAMINATION he does NOT have Transcendental Knowledge. What you do NOT have you can NOT give. And it is Transcendental Knowledge that frees one from ALL MATERIAL CONTAMINATION.
     
    Definition of Diksa:
    Madhya 15.108 The Lord Accepts Prasada at the House of Sarvabhauma Bhattacarya
    Srila Jiva Gosvami explains diksa in his Bhakti-sandarbha (283):
    divyam jnanam yato dadyat kuryat papasya sanksayam tasmad dikseti sa prokta desikais tattva-kovidaih
    “Diksa is the process by which one can awaken his transcendental knowledge and vanquish all reactions caused by sinful activity. A person expert in the study of the revealed scriptures knows this process as diksa.”
     
    Madhya 4.111 Sri Madhavendra Puri’ s Devotional Service Diksa actually means initiating a disciple with transcendental knowledge by which he becomes freed from all material contamination.
     
    So here we see from above definition of Diksa quotes:
    D1) Transcendental Knowledge awakened, initiated
    D2) becomes freed from all material contamination; vanquish all reactions caused by sinful activity
     
    Now ask a simple question HOW can a Brahmana(Kanistha) who is NOT freed from MATERIAL CONTAMINATION GIVE DIKSA -BY WHICH- ONE BECOMES FREED FROM **ALL** MATERIAL CONTAMINATION?
     
    Just take a look at how contradictory and stupid this looks:
    Q1) HOW can a Brahmana (Kanistha) who is HIMSELF material contaminated free another person from **ALL** MATERIAL CONTAMINATION?
     
    SB 9.19.25 P King Yayati Achieves Liberation The word vidhuta, meaning “cleansed,” is very significant. Everyone in this material world is contaminated (karanam guna-sango ‘sya). Because we are in a material condition, we are contaminated either by sattva-guna, by rajo-guna or by tamo-guna. Even if one becomes a qualified brahmana in the mode of goodness (sattva-guna), he is still materially contaminated. One must come to the platform of suddha-sattva, transcending the sattva-guna. Then one is vidhuta-trilinga, cleansed of the contamination caused by the three modes of material nature.
     
    Q2) If a Brahmana(Kanistha) had Transcendental Knowledge then why is contaminated by goodness(sattva-guna)?
    Diksa is the process by which one can awaken his transcendental knowledge and vanquish all reactions caused by sinful activity.
    Diksa actually means initiating a disciple with transcendental knowledge by which he becomes freed from all material contamination
     
    Q3) So HOW can a Kanistha(Brahmana) who HIMSELF is material contaminated does NOT have Transcendental Knowledge give another person Transcendental Knowledge to free him?
    Common-sense: What you do NOT have you CAN NOT give to others.
     
    770214r2.may Conversations
    Prabhupada: Vaisnava is not so easy. The varnasrama-dharma should be established to become a Vaisnava. It is not so easy to become Vaisnava.
    Hari-sauri: No, it’s not a cheap thing.
    Prabhupada: Yes. Therefore this should be made. Vaisnava, to become Vaisnava, is not so easy. If Vaisnava, to become Vaisnava is so easy, why so many fall down, fall down? It is not easy. The sannyasa is for the highest qualified brahmana. And simply by dressing like a Vaisnava, that is… fall down.
    Hari-sauri: So the varnasrama system is like for the kanisthas, Kanistha-adhikari.
    Prabhupada: Kanistha?
    Hari-sauri: When one is only on the platform of neophyte.
    Prabhupada: Yes. Yes. Kanistha-adhikari, yes.
    Hari-sauri: Varnasrama system is beneficial.
    Prabhupada: Kanistha-adhikari means he must be a brahmana. That is kanistha-adhikari. The spiritual life, kanistha-adhikari, means he must be a qualified brahmana. That is kanistha. What is esteemed as very high position in the material world, brahmana, that is kanistha-adhikari. arcayam eva haraye pujam yah sraddhayehate na tad-bhaktesu canyesu sa bhaktah prakrtah smrtah The brahmana means from the material stage gradually he is elevated to the spiritual stage. And below the brahmana there is no question of Vaisnava.
    Hari-sauri: No question of?
    Prabhupada: Vaisnavism.
     
    760206mw.may Conversations
    Dayananda: But what about the persons who may be a little bit devoted but who have not achieved that unalloyed devotion?
    Prabhupada: Kanistha-adhikari. They are not devotees, but they are called bhaktabhasa. There is some signs of bhakti. Actually they are not bhakta. Bhaktabhasa. Abhasa. Abhasa means a simple, a little light.
    Hrdayananda: So devotee really means one who has love for Krsna.
    Prabhupada: Yes, unalloyed, without any condition. Anyabhilasita-sunyam, zero, all other, that “I am this, I am that, I am jnani, I am yogi, I am karmi, I am minister, I am king”–all these are thinking like that, they’re all nonsense. “I am servant of Krsna”–that is greatness. Jivera svarupa haya nitya-krsna-dasa. That is self-realization, atma-tattvam.
     
    Madhya 20.59 Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu Instructs Sanatana Gosvami in the Science PURPORT This verse is spoken by Prahlada Maharaja in Srimad-Bhagavatam (7.9.10). A brahmana is supposed to be qualified with twelve qualities. As stated in the Mahabharata:
    dharmas ca satyam ca damas tapas ca amatsaryam hris titiksanasuya yajnas ca danam ca dhrtih srutam ca vratani vai dvadasa brahmanasya
    “A brahmana must be perfectly religious. He must be truthful, and he must be able to control his senses. He must execute severe austerities, and he must be detached, humble and tolerant. He must not envy anyone, and he must be expert in performing sacrifices and giving whatever he has in charity. He must be fixed in devotional service and expert in the knowledge of the Vedas. These are the twelve qualifications for a brahmana.”
    Bhagavad-gita describes the brahminical qualities in this way:
    samo damas tapah saucam ksantir arjavam eva ca jnanam vijnanam astikyam brahma-karma svabhava-jam
    “Peacefulness, self-control, austerity, purity, tolerance, honesty, wisdom, knowledge, and religiousness–these are the qualities by which the brahmanas work.” (Bg. 18.42)
    In the Muktaphala-tika, it is said:
    samo damas tapah saucam ksanty-arjava-virakta yah jnana-vijnana-santosah satyastikye dvisad gunah
    “Mental equilibrium, sense control, austerity, cleanliness, tolerance, simplicity, detachment, theoretical and practical knowledge, satisfaction, truthfulness and firm faith in the Vedas are the twelve qualities of a brahmana.”
     
    730828BG.LON Lectures
    So first of all, we have to become brahmana. Then Vaisnava. Brahmana simply knows that “I am spirit soul,” aham brahmasmi. Brahma janati iti brahmana. Brahma-bhutah prasannatma. By such knowledge one becomes prasannatma. Means relieved. As you feel relief… When there is burden on your head, and the burden is taken away you feel relieved, similarly, this ignorance that “I am this body” is a great burden, a burden upon us. So when you get out of this burden, then you feel relieved. Brahma-bhutah prasannatma. Means when actually one understands that “I am not this body; I am soul,” then he has to work so hard for maintaining this body, so he gets relief that “Why I am working so hard for this lump of material things? Let me execute my real necessity of life, spiritual life.” That is great relief. That is great relief. Brahma-bhutah prasannatma na socati na kanksati. The relief means there is hankering, no more lamentation. These are the brahma-bhutah.
     
    SB 1.2.20 P Divinity and Divine Service
    The very same thing is confirmed herein in the above words. No ordinary man, or even one who has attained success in human life, can know scientifically or perfectly the Personality of Godhead. Perfection of human life is attained when one can understand that he is not the product of matter but is in fact spirit. And as soon as one understands that he has nothing to do with matter, he at once ceases his material hankerings and becomes enlivened as a spiritual being. This attainment of success is possible when one is above the modes of passion and ignorance, or, in other words, when one is actually a brahmana by qualification. A BRAHMANA IS THE SYMBOL OF SATTVA-GUNA, OR THE MODE OF GOODNESS. AND OTHERS, WHO ARE NOT IN THE MODE OF GOODNESS, ARE EITHER KSATRIYAS, VAISYAS, SUDRAS OR LESS THAN THE SUDRAS. THE BRAHMINICAL STAGE IS THE HIGHEST STAGE OF HUMAN LIFE BECAUSE OF ITS GOOD QUALITIES. SO ONE CANNOT BE A DEVOTEE UNLESS ONE AT LEAST QUALIFIES AS A BRAHMANA. The devotee is already a brahmana by action. But that is not the end of it. AS REFERRED TO ABOVE, SUCH A BRAHMANA HAS TO BECOME A VAISNAVA IN FACT TO BE ACTUALLY IN THE TRANSCENDENTAL STAGE. A PURE VAISNAVA IS A LIBERATED SOUL AND IS TRANSCENDENTAL EVEN TO THE POSITION OF A BRAHMANA. IN THE MATERIAL STAGE EVEN A BRAHMANA IS ALSO A CONDITIONED SOUL BECAUSE ALTHOUGH IN THE BRAHMINICAL STAGE THE CONCEPTION OF BRAHMAN OR TRANSCENDENCE IS REALIZED, SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE OF THE SUPREME LORD IS LACKING. ONE HAS TO SURPASS THE BRAHMINICAL STAGE AND REACH THE VASUDEVA STAGE TO UNDERSTAND THE PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD KRSNA.
     
    Rocana: Mahesh does not make a distinction between the issue of the qualifications of a bona fide spiritual master, and the fact that sastra acknowledges that there also exist kanishta and madhyam gurus. He does not distinguish between the qualifications of the uttama diksa, and the range of possibility the candidate has for the sorts of guru he might choose for himself, which includes not only uttama-diksa.
    Mahesh: The “range of possibility” is non-existent.  By definition ONLY Mahabhagavata is Diksa guru as described in CC Madhya 24.330
    MAHĀ-BHĀGAVATA-śreṣṭho
    brāhmaṇo vai gurur nṛṇām
    sarveṣām eva lokānām
    asau pūjyo yathā hariḥ
    ahā-kula-prasūto ‘pi
    sarva-yajñeṣu DĪKṢITAḤ
    sahasra-śākhādhyāyī ca
    na guruḥ syād avaiṣṇavaḥ
    “The guru must be situated on the topmost platform of devotional service. There are three classes of devotees, and the guru MUST be accepted from the topmost class.”
    The first-class devotee is the spiritual master for all kinds of people. ….When one has attained the topmost position of MAHA-BHAGAVATA, he is to be accepted as a guru and worshiped exactly like Hari, the Personality of Godhead. ONLY SUCH A PERSON IS ELIGIBLE TO OCCUPY THE POST OF A GURU.
    Rocana das is trying to juggle OUT of this in the hope that Kanistha is also some sort of Diksa guru.
    Note: When Krsna comes into the heart of sincere soul AT THE STAGE OF MADHYAMA ADHIKARI BY DIKSA FROM MAHABHAGAVATA he SEES Krsna and his  SVARUPA is revealed in the heart. Kanistha can NOT transfer Krsna into your heart. Madhyama is A RECIPIENT.
    69-01-22. Letter: Vilasavigraha
    In regard to your next question, self realization means God realization, and God realization means self realization. JUST LIKE TO SEE THE SUN MEANS TO SEE ONESELF, AND TO SEE ONESELF MEANS TO SEE THE SUN. SELF REALIZATION DEPENDS COMPLETELY UPON GOD REALIZATION, OR ELSE IT IS NOT COMPLETE. ONE MUST KNOW HIS RELATIONSHIP TO THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH TO FULLY KNOW HIS POSITION.
     
    Note: Srila Prabhupada gives Divya-jnana(DIKSA). Divya means TRANSCENDENTAL and Jnana means KNOWLEDGE Hrde means heart and Prokasito means revealed just as in prakasa – manifested Krsna becomes manifest in the heart of the Pure Devotee.
     
    760711CC.NY Lectures
    Prabhupada: Divya-jnana hrde prokasito. What is that divya-jnana? Divya-jnana is that we are all servant of Krsna, and our only business is to serve Krsna. Divya-jnana. This is divya-jnana. It is not difficult at all. Simply we have… We have become servant of so many things–servant of society, servant of community, servant of country, servant of wife, servant of children, servant of dog and so many. “Now let me become servant of Krsna.” This is divya-jnana. Diksa. Diksa means from this divya-jnana. That is di. And ksa means ksapayati, expands.
     
    When at the stage of Madhyama Adhikari one is RECEPIENT of THAT Diksa in the HEART from SRILA PRABHUPADA he becomes a SERVANT OF KRSNA. He relishes a particular mellow (Rasa) of his relationship with Krsna. This point HE SEES KRSNA and HIS RELATIONSHIP (svarupa) is established. So it is not so CHEAP to be Diksa guru.
     
    Madhya 8.83 Talks Between Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Ramananda Raya
    The purport in presenting this verse necessitates explaining the comparative positions of the transcendental mellows known as santa, dasya, sakhya, vatsalya and madhurya. All these rasas, or mellows, are situated on the transcendental platform. Pure devotees take shelter of one of them and thus progress in spiritual life. Actually one can take shelter of such spiritual mellows only when one is completely uncontaminated by material attachment. When one is completely free from material attachment, the feelings of the transcendental mellows are awakened in the heart of the devotee. That is svarupa-siddhi, the perfection of one’s eternal relationship with the Supreme Lord. Svarupa-siddhi, the eternal relationship with the Supreme Lord, may be situated in one of the transcendental mellows.
     
    Note: When Krsna is TRANSFERRED FROM Pure devotees HEART to another Pure devotee then there is DIKSA. Divya jnana revealtion of ones CONSTITUTIONAL positon Svarupa is UNDERSTOOD. This may take many many many births — NOT so cheap. This is why In Guru Puja to Srila Prabhupada we sing Janme janme prabhu sei:
    760805BG.PAR Lectures Prabhupada: Yes, that arrangement will be done, you go on with your business. We are singing this song daily. Why do you forget? Cakhu-dan dilo jei **janme janme prabhu sei**. ONE WHO HAS OPENED THE EYES, **HE’LL REMAIN MY MASTER LIFE AFTER LIFE**.
     
    Note: Srila Prabhupada is WITH US TO GUIDE US through difficult journey of transmigration cycle to attaining Back to Godhead IF we follow him. Bilvamangal Thakura’s Spiritual master came thru a prostitute to deliver him so Srila Prabhupada is also SO POWERFUL to help us:
     
    SB 3.15.24 P Description of the Kingdom of God
    IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO GO BACK TO GODHEAD IN ONE LIFE, but in the human form one should at least understand the goal of life and begin Krsna consciousness.
     
    Note: A MADHYAMA-ADHIKARI HAS RECEIVED SPIRITUAL INITIATION FROM THE SPIRITUAL MASTER AND HAS BEEN FULLY ENGAGED BY HIM IN THE TRANSCENDENTAL LOVING SERVICE OF THE LORD.** THIS IS DIKSA**.
    Antya 4.192 T Sanatana Gosvami Visits the Lord at Jagannatha Puri:
    DĪKṢĀ-KĀLE bhakta kare ātma-samarpaṇa sei-kāle kṛṣṇa tāre kare ātma-sama
    “At the time of initiation, when a devotee fully surrenders unto the service of the Lord, Kṛṣṇa accepts him to be as good as Himself.“
     
    Antya 4.193 Sanatana Gosvami Visits the Lord at Jagannatha Puri:
    “When the devotee’s body is thus transformed into spiritual existence, the devotee, in that transcendental body, renders SERVICE to the lotus feet of the Lord.
     
    Antya 4.194 Sanatana Gosvami Visits the Lord at Jagannatha Puri: “‘The living entity who is subjected to birth and death, when he gives up all material activities dedicating his life to Me for executing My order, and thus acts according to My direction, AT THAT TIME HE REACHES THE PLATFORM OF IMMORTALITY, AND BECOMES FIT TO ENJOY THE SPIRITUAL BLISS OF EXCHANGE OF LOVING MELLOWS WITH ME.’
     
    NoI 5: In order to intelligently apply the sixfold loving reciprocations mentioned in the previous verse, one must select proper persons with careful discrimination. Srila Rupa Gosvami therefore advises that we should meet with the Vaisnavas in an appropriate way, according to their particular status. In this verse he tells us how to deal with three types of devotees–the kanistha-adhikari, madhyama-adhikari and uttama-adhikari.
    The kanistha-adhikari is a neophyte who has received the hari-nama initiation from the spiritual master and is trying to chant the holy name of Krsna. One should respect such a person within his mind as a kanistha-vaisnava.
    A MADHYAMA-ADHIKARI HAS RECEIVED SPIRITUAL INITIATION FROM THE SPIRITUAL MASTER AND HAS BEEN FULLY ENGAGED BY HIM IN THE TRANSCENDENTAL LOVING SERVICE OF THE LORD. The madhyama-adhikari should be considered to be situated MIDWAY in devotional service.
    The uttama-adhikari, or highest devotee, is one who is very advanced in devotional service. An uttama-adhikari is not interested in blaspheming others, his heart is completely clean, and he has attained the realized state of unalloyed Krsna consciousness. According to Srila Rupa Gosvami, the association and service of such a maha-bhagavata, or perfect Vaisnava, are most desirable.
    Note: in this Srila Prabhupada makes a point of Initiation as a formality this is different from Madhyama Adhikaris receiving Diksa
    761016iv.cha Conversation
    Interviewer: What is the procedure of the movement? Do you initiate yourself all the disciples or do your other disciples also do that?
    Prabhupada: Well, initiation or no initiation, first thing is knowledge. (break) …knowledge. Initiation is formality. Just like you go to a school for knowledge, and admission is formality. That is not very important thing.
    Whereas Srila Prabhupada DELIVERS by giving DIKSA knowledge the formality of 1st and 2nd Initiation is conducted by the Ritviks (Representatives of Acarya).
    Srila Prabhupada’s introduction of Ritvik Initiations (PANCARATRIKI) is fully justified as the formalities may be changed ” can also be initiated according to circumstances.”
    SB 4.8.54 Purport:
    Those who are not actually in the line of acaryas, or who personally have no knowledge of how to act in the role of acarya, unnecessarily criticize the activities of the ISKCON movement in countries outside of India. The fact is that such critics cannot do anything personally to spread Krsna consciousness. If someone does go and preach, taking all risks and allowing all considerations for time and place, it might be that there are changes in the manner of worship, but that is not at all faulty according to sastra. Srimad Viraraghava Acarya, an acarya in the disciplic succession of the Ramanuja-sampradaya, has remarked in his commentary that candalas, or conditioned souls who are born in lower than sudra families, can also be initiated according to circumstances. The formalities may be slightly changed here and there to make them Vaisnavas.
     
    68-06-12. Letter: whom it may concern
    In each center we have got hundreds of disciples and followers, and our initiated disciples are strictly following the restrictions as principle, as follows: (1) no illicit sex life, (2) no intoxication, including coffee, tea, and cigarettes, (3) no gambling, (4) no meat eating. We have got both Brahmacaris and Householders as disciples, and all of them are following the above mentioned principles. THE STUDENTS AND DISCIPLES ARE INITIATED ACCORDING TO AUTHORIZED PANCARATRIKI REGULATIONS. According to Srimad-Bhagavatam and Bhagavad-gita, anyone, including so-called low born men, who may take shelter unto the Lotus Feet of Lord Krishna or His devotees, is sanctified by initiation process.
    kirata-hunandhra-pulinda-pulkasa
    abhira-sumbha yavanah khasadayah
    ye ‘nye ca papa yad-apasrayasrayah
    sudhyanti tasmai prabhavisnave namah
    How such thing can be possible is explained in the Srimad-Bhagavatam that by special all-pervading power of Visnu this is possible.
     
    721027ND.VRN Lecture
    So we are trying to follow Sanatana Gosvami. By diksa-vidhanena, by imitating persons any, from anywhere. It does not matter. Because in this age, Kali-yuga, the diksa-vidhana is performed according, according to Pancaratrika-vidhi. Not Vaidika-vidhi. Vaidika-vidhi is very strict. Unless one is bona fide son of a dvija, the initiation was not given. To the sudras, there was no initiation. A brahmana ksatriya, vaisya. So these are the Vedic process. SO IN THE KALI-YUGA, BECAUSE IT IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD THAT EVERYONE IS A SUDRA, THEREFORE VAIDIKA-VIDHANA CANNOT BE APPLIED. VAIDIKA-VIDHANA REQUIRES THAT ONE MUST BE BORN BY A BRAHMANA, KSATRIYA. THEN HE’S ELIGIBLE FOR BEING INITIATED. BUT IN THE KALI-YUGA, THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE. THEREFORE THE PANCARATRIKI-VIDHI IS ACCEPTED.
    Kanistha adhikari is supposed to be in the mode of Goodness Sattva guna NOT on Visuddha Sattava platform which is Pure Goodness so he can NOT give Diksa. How can a Kanistha adhikari give diksa if he himself is not free from all material contamination?
    Madhya 4.111 Sri Madhavendra Puri’ s Devotional Service:
    Diksa actually means initiating a disciple with transcendental knowledge by which he becomes freed from all material contamination.
    Note: If Kanistha adhikari could give this Diksa to another this means there would be no material contamination at all but he cannot do this. ONLY at Madhyama adhikari stage one can be initiated with transcendental Knowledge and become freed from ALL material contamination. It is mistakenly misunderstood that even Kanistha or Madhyama adhikari give diksa this is perhaps due to the understanding they CAN accept disciples. It is NOT stating that Madhyama or Kanistha can give Diksa.
    Please see the quote below:
    “In this verse Srila Rupa Gosvami advises the devotee to be intelligent enough to distinguish between the kanistha-adhikari, madhyama-adhikari and the uttama-adhikari. The devotee should also know his own position and should not try to imitate a devotee situated on a higher platform. Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura has given some practical hints to the effect that an uttama-adhikari Vaisnava can be recognized by his ability to convert many fallen souls to Vaisnavism. One should not become a spiritual master unless he has attained the platform of uttama-adhikari. A neophyte Vaisnava or a Vaisnava situated on the intermediate platform can also accept disciples, but such disciples must be on the same platform, and it should be understood that they cannot advance very well toward the ultimate goal of life under his insufficient guidance. THEREFORE A DISCIPLE SHOULD BE CAREFUL TO ACCEPT AN UTTAMA-ADHIKARI AS A SPIRITUALMASTER.” (Purport, Nectar of Instruction)
    The 3rd Offence in chanting is to DISOBEY the Spiritual master so in EITHER case if one becomes a spiritual master without being QUALIFIED as Uttama Adhikari(Maha-Bhagavata) he will be committing offense and if he accepts one who is NOT QUALIFIED  to Uttama adhikari stage he will commit offense in the chanting of the holy name. In BOTH cases their spiritual life is FINISHED!
    Caitanya-caritamrta Madhya 8.274 – Talks Between Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Ramananda Raya: 
    sthavara-jangama dekhe, na dekhe tara murti
    sarvatra haya nija ista-deva-sphurti
    SYNONYMS sthavara-jangama–movable and inert; dekhe–he sees; na–not; dekhe–sees; tara–its; murti–form; sarvatra–everywhere; haya–there is; nija–his own; ista-deva–worshipable Lord; sphurti–manifestation.
    TRANSLATION “The maha-bhagavata, the advanced devotee, certainly sees everything mobile and immobile, but he does not exactly see their forms. Rather, everywhere he immediately SEES manifest the form of the Supreme Lord.
    PURPORT Due to his deep ecstatic love for Krsna, the maha-bhagavata SEES Krsna everywhere and nothing else. This is confirmed in the Brahma-samhita (5.38): premanjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena santah sadaiva hrdayesu vilokayanti.
    As soon as a devotee sees something–be it movable or inert–he immediately remembers Krsna.”
     
    NoD 8 Offenses to Be Avoided
    The offenses against the chanting of the holy name are as follows: (3) To disobey the orders of the spiritual master.
    Note: Diksa is illustrated graphically here Vasudeva was on Suddha sattva platform this is why from him Krsna is transferred to Devaki
    SB 10.2.18 Prayers by the Demigods for Lord Krsna in the Womb:
    Thereafter, accompanied by plenary expansions, the fully opulent Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is all-auspicious for the entire universe, was transferred from the mind of Vasudeva to the mind of Devaki. Devaki, having thus been initiated by Vasudeva, became beautiful by carrying Lord Krsna, the original consciousness for everyone, the cause of all causes, within the core of her heart, just as the east becomes beautiful by carrying the rising moon.
    PURPORT:  As indicated here by the word manastah, the Supreme Personality of Godhead was transferred from the core of Vasudeva’s mind or heart to the core of the heart of Devaki. We should note carefully that the Lord was transferred to Devaki not by the ordinary way for a human being, but by diksa, initiation. Thus the importance of initiation is mentioned here. Unless one is initiated by the right person, who always carries within his heart the Supreme Personality of Godhead, one cannot acquire the power to carry the Supreme Godhead within the core of one’s own heart.
     
    SB 8.5.29 P The Demigods Appeal to the Lord for Protection:
    Sattvam visuddham vasudeva-sabditam (Bhag. 4.3.23). In this material world, the three modes of material nature–goodness, passion and ignorance–prevail. Among these three, goodness is the platform of knowledge, and passion brings about a mixture of knowledge and ignorance, but the mode of ignorance is full of darkness. Therefore the Supreme Personality of Godhead is beyond darkness and passion. He is on the platform where goodness or knowledge is not disturbed by passion and ignorance. This is called the vasudeva platform. It is on this platform of vasudeva that Vasudeva, or Krsna, can appear.
     
    SB 5.3.20 P Rsabhadeva’ s Appearance in the Womb of Merudevi, the Wife of King Nabhi:
    Lord Visnu descends in His suddha-sattva form. Suddha-sattva refers to the sattva-guna which is never contaminated. In this material world, even the mode of goodness (sattva-guna) is contaminated by tinges of rajo-guna and tamo-guna. When sattva-guna is never contaminated by rajo-guna and tamo-guna, it is called suddha-sattva. Sattvam visuddham vasudeva-sabditam (Bhag. 4.3.23). That is the platform of vasudeva, whereby the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Vasudeva, can be experienced.
    Note: Karma is taken by UTTAMA-ADHAKARI. Only he can DELIVER by definition. ‘uttama-adhikārī’ sei tāraye saṁsāra
    Madhya 22.65 The Process of Devotional Service:
    śāstra-yuktye sunipuṇa, dṛḍha-śraddhā yāṅra
    ‘uttama-adhikārī’ sei tāraye saṁsāra
    SYNONYMS: uttama-adhikārī—the topmost devotee; sei—he; tāraye saṁsāra—can deliver the whole world.
    Srila Prabhupada delivers. He GIVES Diksa. Formalities of initiation are done by his Ritvik Representatives.
    Srila Prabhupada: “continue to become ritvik and act on my behalf.” (July 31, 1977)
    Letter July 9th: Srila Prabhupada indicated that soon He would appoint some of His senior disciples to act as ritvik – representative of the acarya, for the purpose of performing initiations, both first initiation and second initiation. Now that Srila Prabhupada has named these representatives, Temple Presidents may henceforward send recommendation for first and second initiation to whichever of these eleven representatives are nearest their temple. After considering the recommendation, these representatives may accept the devotee as an initiated disciple of Srila Prabhupada by giving a spiritual name, or in the case of second initiation, by chanting on the Gayatri thread, just as Srila Prabhupada has done. The newly initiated devotees are disciples of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad, the above eleven senior devotees acting as His representative.
    Note the word *representative* indicated below which was also mentioned in July 9th 1977 directive.
    Caitanya-caritamrta, Madhya 24.330: “Similarly, a disciple’s qualifications must be observed by the spiritual master before he is accepted as a disciple. In our Krsna consciousness movement, the requirement is that one must be prepared to give up the four pillars of sinful life-illicit sex, meat-eating, intoxication and gambling. In Western countries especially, we first observe whether a potential disciple is prepared to follow the regulative principles. Then he is given the name of a Vaisnava servant and initiated to chant the Hare Krsna maha-mantra, at least sixteen rounds daily. In this way the disciple renders devotional service under the guidance of the spiritual master or his representative for at least six months to a year. He is then recommended for a second initiation, during which a sacred thread is offered and the disciple is accepted as a bona fide brahmana.”
    Note: we know that without becoming a Maha-bhagavata it is an offense against the chanting of the holy name (3rd offense in chanting) to be worshipped as good as God (Acarya). Ritvik –the representative of the acarya allows for this function of worshipping the acarya (Prabhupada) without slaughtering the spiritual lives of others.
    “When one has attained the topmost position of maha-bhagavata, he is to be accepted as a guru and worshiped exactly like Hari, the Personality of Godhead. Only such a person is eligible to occupy the post of a guru.”
    Srila Prabhupada is revealing his position as the jagad-guru (Spiritual Master of the entire world). It is Srila Prabhupada that has distributed the Holy Name (thru his books) all over the world. Krishna is His pure devotee Prabhupada’s property to give.
    Caitanya-caritamrta, Antya 7.12: “Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura explains that unless one is directly empowered by the causeless mercy of Kṛṣṇa, one cannot become the spiritual master of the entire world (jagad-guru). One cannot become an ācārya simply by mental speculation. The true ācārya presents Kṛṣṇa to everyone by preaching the holy name of the Lord throughout the world. Thus the conditioned souls, purified by chanting the holy name, are liberated from the blazing fire of material existence. In this way, spiritual benefit grows increasingly full, like the waxing moon in the sky. The true ācārya, the spiritual master of the entire world, must be considered an incarnation of Kṛṣṇa’s mercy. indeed, he is personally embracing Kṛṣṇa. HE IS THEREFORE THE SPIRITUAL MASTER OF ALL THE VARṆAS (BRĀHMAṆA, KṢATRIYA, VAIŚYA AND ŚŪDRA) AND ALL THE ĀŚRAMAS (BRAHMACARYA, GṚHASTHA, VĀNAPRASTHA AND SANNYĀSA). SINCE HE IS UNDERSTOOD TO BE THE MOST ADVANCED DEVOTEE, HE IS CALLED PARAMAHAṀSA-ṬHĀKURA. ṬHĀKURA IS A TITLE OF HONOR OFFERED TO THE PARAMAHAṀSA. THEREFORE ONE WHO ACTS AS AN ĀCĀRYA, DIRECTLY PRESENTING LORD KṚṢṆA BY SPREADING HIS NAME AND FAME, IS ALSO TO BE CALLED PARAMAHAṀSA-ṬHĀKURA.“
    This July 9th 1977 letter was never revoked by Srila Prabhupada. This being the case, all the newly initiated devotees are disciples of his Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada for as long as ISKCON exists.
    July 11th, 1977 – “A letter has been sent to all the Temple Presidents and GBC which you should be receiving soon describing the process for initiation to be followed in the future. Srila Prabhupada has appointed thus far eleven representatives who will initiate new devotees on His behalf.”
    (Letter from Tamala Krishna Goswami to Kirtananda describing the above system) July 19th, 1977 – “Make your own field and continue to be Ritvik and act on my charge.” (Room Conversation, above dictated by Srila Prabhupada to his secretary Tamala Krishna Goswami)
    July 31st, 1977 – “Make your own field and continue to become ritvik and act on my behalf.”
    (Above dictation sent out to Hamsaduta by Tamala Krishna in a letter) Nov 1977 – “The system of management will continue as it is now and there is no need of any change.”
    (Srila Prabhupada’s Last Will and Testament, which now comes into force for the lifetime of ISKCON)
    Nov 1977 – “In the event of death or failure to act for any reason of any of the said directors, a successor director or directors may be appointed by the remaining directors, provided the new director is my initiated disciple …”
    (Srila Prabhupada’s Last Will and Testament, which now comes into force for the lifetime of ISKCON. The above system of selecting directors can only work if Srila Prabhupada’s initiated disciples exist throughout ISKCON’s lifetime.)
    1) WHY did Srila Prabhupada ARRANGE to have his OWN murti in ALL the temples in ISKCON for worshiping during Guru Puja UNLESS he was GIVER OF the DIVYA Jnana hrdaya prakasito HE GIVES DIVYA JNANA (DIKSA) ONLY a MAHABHAGAVATA is accepted as Worshipable Diksa Guru as per Caitanya Caritamrta Madhya 24.330. Srila Prabhuapada is THE ACARYA of ISKCON.
    NOTE: It is ONLY ACARYA that can give DIKSA because even in NOD this is stated REGARDING ACCEPTING INITIATION from the spiritual master it refers to SB 11.17.27 which is ACARYA.
    Nectar of Devotion 7 — Evidence Regarding Devotional Principles
    REGARDING ACCEPTING INITIATION from the spiritual master, in the Eleventh Canto of Srimad-Bhagavatam, Seventeenth Chapter, verse 27, it is stated by Lord Krsna, “My dear Uddhava, the spiritual master must be accepted not only as My representative, but as My very self. He must never be considered on the same level with an ordinary human being. One should never be envious of the spiritual master, as one may be envious of an ordinary man. The spiritual master should always be seen as the representative of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and by serving the spiritual master one is able to serve all the demigods.”
     
    Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.7.15 Purport — Indra Offends His Spiritual Master, Brhaspati:
    “By the mercy of the spiritual master one is benedicted by the mercy of Krsna. Without the grace of the spiritual master, one cannot make any advancement.” A disciple should never be a hypocrite or be unfaithful to his spiritual master. In Srimad-Bhagavatam (11.17.27), THE SPIRITUAL MASTER IS ALSO CALLED ACARYA. Acaryam mam vijaniyan: the Supreme Personality of Godhead says that one should respect the spiritual master, accepting him as the Lord Himself. Navamanyeta karhicit: one should not disrespect the acarya at any time. Na martya-buddhyasuyeta: one should never think the acarya an ordinary person. Familiarity sometimes breeds contempt, but one should be very careful in one’s dealings with the acarya. Agadha-dhisanam dvijam: the acarya is a perfect brahmana and has unlimited intelligence in guiding the activities of his disciple.
     
    2) Srila Prabhupada put it DELIBERATELY in all his books FOUNDER-ACARYA. Srila Prabhupada did NOT say he was only ISKCON founder. There is HYPHEN in between the words Founder AND Acarya which indicates HE IS ALSO ITS CURRENT ACARYA.
     
    3) There is ALSO the FACT that ONLY INITIATED DISCIPLE will be Director. This means HE wanted to REMAIN the INITIATOR for the EXISTENCE of the society: Other WILL Srila Prabhupada’s Will The executive directors who have herein been designated are appointed for life. In the event of death or failure to act for any reason of any of the said directors, a successor director or directors may be appointed by the remaining directors, provided the new director is MY INITIATED DISCIPLE following strictly all the rules and regulations of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness as detailed in my books, and provided that there are never less than three (3) or more than five (5) exeutive directors acting at one time.
     
    4) 75-08-04. Letter: Madhudvisa: The GBC should all be the instructor gurus. I AM IN THE INITIATOR GURU, and you should be the instructor guru by teaching what I am teaching and doing what I am doing. This is not a title, but you must actually come to this platform. This I want.
     
    680312iv.sf Conversations Prabhupada: Yes, I AM the spiritual master of this institution, and ALL the members of the society, they’re supposed to be MY disciples. They follow the rules and regulations which I ask them to follow, and they are initiated by me spiritually. So therefore the spiritual master is called guru. That is Sanskrit language.
     
    5) Disciple belongs to whoever gives DISCIPLINE TO him: In ISKCON we are ALL being DISCIPLINED by Srila Prabhupada (we receive instructions (DISCIPLINE) FROM Srila Prabhupada’s books. Even the most basic discipline, 16 rounds of Hare Krishna Mantra and four Regulative Principles are coming FROM Srila Prabhupada. Common sense — if you ARE being disciplined BY Srila Prabhupada then it follows you ARE Srila Prabhupada’s disciple. How can it be otherwise?
    The MEANING of the word “disciple”
    Srila Prabhupada’s Morning Walk, March 8, 1976 in Mayapur:
    Prabhupada: “Discipline… Disciple means discipline. The word discipline comes from disciple, or disciple comes from discipline. So unless there is discipline, there is no question of disciple. This discipline must… That should be uniform. Otherwise, sisya… sisya, the word sisya, it comes from the root, verb, sas-dhatu. sas. sas means ruling. From this word, sasana. Sasana means government. sastra. sashtra means weapon, and sastra, scripture, and sisya… These things have come from the one root sas-dhatu. So sas-dhatu means ruling under discipline. There is another English word, that “Obedience is the first law of discipline,” or something. They say, “Obedience is the first law of discipline”? So I am right? “Obedience is…”? That is the…
    Tamala Krsna: Yes, that’s more or less what it is.
    Prabhupada: No, what is the word, exact. There is an English word. “Obedience is the first law of discipline.” So unless there is obedience, there cannot be any discipline. And unless there is discipline, there is no question of disciple. DISCIPLE MEANS ONE WHO FOLLOWS DISCIPLINE.”
    Discipline comes from Srila Prabhupada. We are actually being disciplined by Srila Prabhupada. It is Srila Prabhupada who has given us the regulative principles of no meat, fish or eggs; no intoxication (including tea and coffee), no illicit sex, and no gambling. It is Srila Prabhupada who has made it a regulative principle for us to chant sixteen rounds on the beads HARE KRSNA HARE KRSNA KRSNA KRSNA HARE HARE /HARE RAMA HARE RAMA RAMA RAMA HARE HARE.
    Srila Prabhupada’s books contain all the instructions, the guidance required for us to get ourselves out of the clutches of the modes of material nature. In fact, Srila Prabhupada is personally present as his books.
    Caitanya-caritamra, Adi 1, Text 35: “There is NO DIFFERENCE between the spiritual masters instructions and the spiritual master himself.”
    Since the instructions of the spiritual master and the spiritual master are not different, one can be the disciple of Srila Prabhupada by following his discipline and can be considered Srila Prabhupada’s disciple. Another point is he can be considered both direct disciple and not direct simultaneously, because Srila Prabhupada is still present in his instruction form (his books). The following example will illustrate the point.
    Srila Krsnadasa kaviraja is the example of both direct and not direct disciple simultaneously. (THE PHILOSOPHY OF SIMULTANEOUS ONENESS AND DIFFERENCE).
     
    Caitanya-caritamra, Adi 1: “A direct disciple of Srila Rupa Gosvami was Srila Raghunatha dasa Gosvami. The author of Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Srila Krsnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami, stands as the DIRECT DISCIPLE of Srila Rupa Gosvami and Srila Raghunatha dasa Gosvami. The direct disciple of Srila Krsnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami was Srila Narottama dasa Thakura, who accepted Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti as his servitor. Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura accepted Srila Jagannatha dasa Babaji, who initiated Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, who in turn initiated Srila Gaurakishore dasa Babaji, the spiritual master of Om Visnupada Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Maharaja, the divine master of our humble self. Since we belong to this chain of disciplic succession from Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, this edition of Sri Caitanya-caritamrta will contain nothing newly manufactured by our tiny brains, but only remnants of food originally eaten by the Lord Himself.”
     
    Caitanya-caritamra, Antya 19.102: Krsnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami was not actually a direct disciple of Srila Rupa Gosvami, but he FOLLOWED THE INSTRUCTIONS given by Srila Rupa Gosvami in Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu. He therefore ACTED ACCORDING TO THE DIRECTIONS of Rupa Gosvami and prayed in every chapter for his mercy.
     
    6) Note: It is SUCCESSION MEANS to SUCCEED Srila Prabhupada is the LAST name in Disciplic Succession of ACARYAS: SB 3.29.17 P Explanation of Devotional Service by Lord Kapila In Bhagavad-gita, Thirteenth Chapter, it is clearly stated that one should execute devotional service and advance on the path of spiritual knowledge BY ACCEPTING THE ACARYA. Acaryopasanam: one should worship an acarya, a spiritual master who knows things as they are. THE SPIRITUAL MASTER MUST BE IN THE DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION FROM KRSNA. THE PREDECESSORS OF THE SPIRITUAL MASTER ARE HIS SPIRITUAL MASTER, HIS GRAND SPIRITUAL MASTER, HIS GREAT-GRAND SPIRITUAL MASTER AND SO ON, WHO FORM THE DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION OF ACARYAS.
     
    68-02-13. Letter: Upendra
    My Guru Maharaja was in the 10th generation from Lord Caitanya. We are 11th from Lord Caitanya. The disciplic sucession is as follows: 1. Sri Krishna, 2. Brahma, 3. Narada, 4. Vyasa, 5. Madhva, 6. Padmanabha, 7. Nrihari, 8. Madhava, 9. Akshobhya, 10. Jayatirtha, 11. Jnanasindhu, 12. Purusottama, 13. Vidyanidhi, 14. Rajendra, 15. Jayadharma, 16. Purusottama, 17. Vyasatirtha, 18. Laksmipati, 19. Madhavendra Puri, 20. Isvara Puri (Advaita, Nityananda) 21. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, 22. (Svarupa, Sanatana) Rupa, 23.(Jiva) Raghunath, 24. Krishna dasa, 25. Narottama, 26. Visvanatha, 27. (Baladeva.) Jagannatha, 28. (Bhaktivinode) Gaura-kisora, 29. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati, Sri Barshabhanavidayitadas, 30. SRI SRIMAD BHAKTIVEDANTA.
     
    7) Note: It is ONLY Srila Prabhupada that fulfills the WORLD ACARYA position: Madhya 25.9 How All the Residents of Varanasi Became Vaisnavas “In Dvapara-yuga, devotees of Lord Visnu and Krsna rendered devotional service according to the principles of pancaratrika. In this Age of Kali, the Supreme Personality of Godhead is worshiped simply by the chanting of His holy names.» Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura then comments: “Without being empowered by the direct potency of Lord Krsna to fulfill His desire and without being specifically favored by the Lord, NO HUMAN BEING CAN BECOME THE SPIRITUAL MASTER OF THE WHOLE WORLD. He certainly cannot succeed by mental concoction, which is not meant for devotees or religious people. Only an empowered personality can distribute the holy name of the Lord and enjoin all fallen souls to worship Krsna. By distributing the holy name of the Lord, he cleanses the hearts of the most fallen people; therefore he extinguishes the blazing fire of the material world. Not only that, he broadcasts the shining brightness of Krsna’s effulgence throughout the world. Such an acarya, or spiritual master, should be considered nondifferent from Krsna-that is, he should be considered the incarnation of Lord Krsna’s potency. Such a personality is krsnalingita-vigraha-that is, he is always embraced by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krsna. Such a person is above the considerations of the varnasrama institution. HE IS THE GURU OR SPIRITUAL MASTER FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD, A DEVOTEE ON THE TOPMOST PLATFORM, THE MAHA-BHAGAVATA STAGE, AND A PARAMAHAMSA-THAKURA, A SPIRITUAL FORM ONLY FIT TO BE ADDRESSED AS PARAMAHAMSA OR THAKURA.”
     
    8) Note: ONLY Srila Prabhupada will lay claim to be PROMINENT ACARYA to be FOLLOWED because of his books,cds,tapes, disciples, temples so extensive over the world for FUTURE generations OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS:
    68-04-12. Letter: Dayananda Regarding parampara system: THERE IS NOTHING TO WONDER FOR BIG GAPS. Just like we belong to the Brahma Sampradaya, so we accept it from Krishna to Brahma, Brahma to Narada, Narada to Vyasadeva, Vyasadeva to Madhva, and between Vyasadeva and Madhva there is a big gap. But it is sometimes said that Vyasadeva is still living, and Madhva was fortunate enough to meet him directly. In a similar way, we find in the Bhagavad-gita that the Gita was taught to the sungod, some millions of years ago, but Krishna has mentioned only three names in this parampara system–namely, Vivasvan, Manu, and Iksvaku; and SO THESE GAPS DO NOT HAMPER FROM UNDERSTANDING THE PARAMPARA SYSTEM. WE HAVE TO PICK UP THE PROMINENT ACARYA, AND FOLLOW FROM HIM. There are many branches also from the parampara system, and it is not possible to record all the branches and sub-branches in the disciplic succession. WE HAVE TO PICK UP FROM THE AUTHORITY OF THE ACHARYA IN WHATEVER SAMPRADAYA WE BELONG TO.
     
    9) Note: the Hare Krsna mantra is PURE DEVOTEE Srila Prabhupada’s Property to give and July 9th 1977 ORDER is simply discharge MANAGEMENT DUTY of giving conditioned souls Ritviks the privilege OF SERVICE to give Holy Name on BEHALF of PURE devotee Srila Prabhupada. The holy name is NOT conditioned souls property this is WHY it is given ON BEHALF of Srila Prabhupada:
    SB 7.9.42 P Prahlada Pacifies Lord Nrsimhadeva with Prayers
    Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura also sings, tumi ta’ thakura, tomara kukura, baliya janaha more: “O my Lord, O Vaisnava, please consider me your dog.” One must become the dog of a Vaisnava, A PURE DEVOTEE, FOR A PURE DEVOTEE CAN DELIVER KRSNA WITHOUT DIFFICULTY. KRSNA SE TOMARA, KRSNA DITE PARA. KRSNA IS THE PROPERTY OF HIS PURE DEVOTEE, AND IF WE TAKE SHELTER OF A PURE DEVOTEE, HE CAN DELIVER KRSNA VERY EASILY.
     
    10) Note: the Ritvik System is SYSTEM OF MANAGEMENT so the issue of HOLY NAME to be given on BEHALF of Srila Prabhupada the PURE devotee MUST continue as per Srila Prabhupada’s ORDER: Other WILL Srila Prabhupada’s Will 2. Each temple will be an ISKCON property and will be managed by three executive directors. THE SYSTEM OF MANAGEMENT WILL CONTINUE AS IT IS NOW AND THERE IS NO NEED OF ANY CHANGE.
     
    11) Note: ONE INITIATOR Srila Prabhupada.There may be many spiritual masters who instruct, but the initiator spiritual master is one. Holy Name is given ON BEHALF of Srila Prabhupada by Ritvik REPRESENTATIVES:
     
    KB 80 The Meeting of Lord Krsna with Sudama Brahmana
    Our next spiritual master is he who initiates us into transcendental knowledge, and he is to be worshiped as much as I am. The spiritual master may be more than one. The spiritual master who instructs the disciples about spiritual matters is called siksa-guru, and the spiritual master who initiates the disciple is called diksa-guru. Both of them are My representatives. THERE MAY BE MANY SPIRITUAL MASTERS WHO INSTRUCT, BUT THE INITIATOR SPIRITUAL MASTER IS ONE.
    12) Note: ONLY the Mahabhagavata Srila Prabhupada is to be ACCEPTED as Diksa Guru otherwise it is 3rd OFFENSE in chanting: NoD 8 Offenses to Be Avoided The offenses against the chanting of the holy name are as follows: (3) TO DISOBEY THE ORDERS OF THE SPIRITUAL MASTER.
     
    Madhya 24.330 The Sixty-One Explanations of the Atmarama Verse
    MAHA-BHAGAVATA-srestho
    brahmano vai gurur nrnam
    sarvesam eva lokanam
    asau pujyo yatha harih
    maha-kula-prasuto ‘pi
    sarva-yajnesu diksitah
    sahasra-sakhadhyayi ca
    na guruh syad avaisnavah
    ((The guru MUST be situated on the topmost platform of devotional service. There are three classes of devotees, and the guru MUST be accepted from the topmost class. The first-class devotee is the spiritual master for all kinds of people.
    Purport: ”When one has attained the topmost position of maha-bhagavata, he is to be accepted as a guru and worshiped exactly like Hari, the Personality of Godhead. ONLY SUCH A PERSON IS ELIGIBLE TO OCCUPY THE POST OF A GURU.))”
     
    Diksa Process: 1ST AND 2ND INITIATIONS GIVEN ON BEHALF OF SRILA PRABHUPADA THE -ONE- INITIATOR BY THE (RITVIK) REPRESENTATIVE :
    13) Note: OR HIS REPRESENTATIVE is the Ritvik Representative as per July 9th 1977 Order
    Madhya 24.330 The Sixty-One Explanations of the Atmarama Verse
    Similarly, a disciple’s qualifications must be observed by the spiritual master before he is accepted as a disciple. IN OUR KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS MOVEMENT, THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT ONE MUST BE PREPARED TO GIVE UP THE FOUR PILLARS OF SINFUL LIFE-ILLICIT SEX, MEAT-EATING, INTOXICATION AND GAMBLING. IN WESTERN COUNTRIES ESPECIALLY, WE FIRST OBSERVE WHETHER A POTENTIAL DISCIPLE IS PREPARED TO FOLLOW THE REGULATIVE PRINCIPLES. THEN HE IS GIVEN THE NAME OF A VAISNAVA SERVANT AND INITIATED TO CHANT THE HARE KRSNA MAHA-MANTRA, AT LEAST SIXTEEN ROUNDS DAILY. In this way the disciple renders devotional service under the guidance of the spiritual master OR HIS REPRESENTATIVE FOR AT LEAST SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR. HE IS THEN RECOMMENDED FOR A SECOND INITIATION, DURING WHICH A SACRED THREAD IS OFFERED AND THE DISCIPLE IS ACCEPTED AS A BONA FIDE BRAHMANA.
     
    14) Note: Ritvik can be replaced if he has a falldown:
    770528me.vrn Conversations Tamala Krsna: Of course, IF SOMEONE HAS A FALLDOWN, just like in the past some GBC men have fallen down… Prabhupada: HE SHOULD BE REPLACED. Tamala Krsna: Then he should be replaced. But that’s a serious falldown, not some minor discrepancy. Prabhupada: THEY MUST BE ALL IDEAL ACARYA-LIKE. IN THE BEGINNING WE HAVE DONE FOR WORKING. Now we should be very cautious. ANYONE WHO IS DEVIATING, HE CAN BE REPLACED.
     
    Note: Srila Prabhupada is the ONE initiatior:
     
    Adi 1.99 The Spiritual Masters One of the bhagavatas is the great scripture Srimad-Bhagavatam, and the other is the pure devotee absorbed in the mellows of loving devotion.
     
    Adi 1.100 The Spiritual Masters Through the actions of THESE TWO BHAGAVATAS THE LORD INSTILLS THE MELLOWS OF TRANSCENDENTAL LOVING SERVICE INTO THE HEART OF A LIVING BEING, and thus the Lord, in the heart of His devotee, comes under the control of the devotee’s love.
     
    Note: Does it say VAPU is the requirement – NO! Vapuvadis have CONCOCTED you need VAPU for transmission of DIKSA
     
    SB 1.7.22 P The Son of Drona Punished
    The spiritual master, BY HIS WORDS, CAN PENETRATE INTO THE HEART OF THE SUFFERING PERSON AND INJECT KNOWLEDGE TRANSCENDENTAL, which alone can extinguish the fire of material existence.
     
    Adi 1.35 The Spiritual Masters
    THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SPIRITUAL MASTER’S INSTRUCTIONS AND THE SPIRITUAL MASTER HIMSELF. In his absence, therefore, his words of direction should be the pride of the disciple.
     
    690113LE.LA Lectures
    Similarly, arcye sila-dhir gurusu na… Gurusu means those who are acaryas, to accept their body as ordinary man’s body, this is denied in the sastras. SO ALTHOUGH A PHYSICAL BODY IS NOT PRESENT, THE VIBRATION SHOULD BE ACCEPTED AS THE PRESENCE OF THE SPIRITUAL MASTER, VIBRATION. WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE SPIRITUAL MASTER, THAT IS LIVING.
     
    Note: ONE INITIATOR Srila Prabhupada.There may be many spiritual masters who instruct, but the initiator spiritual master is one.
    KB 80 The Meeting of Lord Krsna with Sudama Brahmana
    Our next spiritual master is he who initiates us into transcendental knowledge, and he is to be worshiped as much as I am. The spiritual master may be more than one. The spiritual master who instructs the disciples about spiritual matters is called siksa-guru, and the spiritual master who initiates the disciple is called diksa-guru. Both of them are My representatives. There may be many spiritual masters who instruct, BUT THE INITIATOR SPIRITUAL MASTER IS ONE.
     
    SRILA PRABHUPADA IS OUR CURRENT LINK
     
    SB 2.9.8: THE POTENCY OF TRANSCENDENTAL SOUND IS NEVER MINIMIZED BECAUSE THE VIBRATOR IS APPARENTLY ABSENT. Therefore SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM or Bhagavad-gitä or any revealed scripture in the world is never to be accepted as an ordinary mundane sound without transcendental potency.
    Srila Prabhupada and his words are on the transcendental platform therefore his PURPORTS to the SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM is the CURRENT LINK. AS LONG AS WE HAVE PRABHUPADA’S PURPORTS TO THE SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM HE WILL BE OUR CURRENT LINK BECAUSE **THE REAL** MESSAGE OF SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM ARE **HIS** PURPORTS.
    Note: Srila Prabhupada’s words of direction ARE HIS PURPORTS AND There is NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SPIRITUAL MASTER’S INSTRUCTIONS AND THE SPIRITUAL MASTER HIMSELF.
     
    ADI 1.35: There is NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SPIRITUAL MASTER’S INSTRUCTIONS AND THE SPIRITUAL MASTER HIMSELF. In his absence, THEREFORE, HIS WORDS OF DIRECTION SHOULD BE THE PRIDE OF THE DISCIPLE.
    Note: the CURRENT LINK is Srila Prabhupada’s Srimad Bhagavatam PURPORTS – Srila Prabhupada is NOT different from his purports:
    SB 2.9.7 As already stated, Brahmä is the original spiritual master for the universe, and since he was initiated by the Lord Himself, the MESSAGE OF SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM IS COMING DOWN BY DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION, and in order to receive THE REAL MESSAGE OF SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM one should approach THE CURRENT LINK, or spiritual master, in the chain of disciplic succession.
     
    73-12-25.Letter: Gurukrpa , Yasodanandana
    Whatever is to be learned of the teachings of Srila Bhaktivinode Thakura can be learned from our books. THERE IS NO NEED WHATSOEVER FOR ANY OUTSIDE INSTRUCTION.
     
    74-11-22.       Letter: Bahurupa
    I am pleased to hear that you are chanting 16 rounds daily and reading my books regularly and following the four rules. IN MY BOOKS THE PHILOSOPHY OF KRISHNA CONSCIOUSNESS IS EXPLAINED FULLY SO IF THERE IS ANYTHING WHICH YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND, THEN YOU SIMPLY HAVE TO READ AGAIN AND AGAIN. BY READING DAILY THE KNOWLEDGE WILL BE REVEALED TO YOU AND BY THIS PROCESS YOUR SPIRITUAL LIFE WILL DEVELOP.
     
    75-09-18.    Letter: Babhru, Satyaki
    PLEASE CONTINUE READING MY BOOKS SERIOUSLY AND EVERYTHING WILL BE REVEALED TO YOU.
     
    74-11-22.    Letter: Hugo Salemon
    So far your worship of Lord Jagannatha in your home and your becoming initiated. It is alright provided you have the recommendation of the temple president. I am very glad to see that such a young boy as yourself you are taking serious interest in this Krishna Consciousness Movement. Please continue in this way Our process is something universal. It cannot be checked by any means. Anyone in any place, in any country can chant Hare Krishna. If it is possible to go to the temple, then take advantage of the temple. A temple is a place where by one is given the opportunity to render direct devotional service to the Supreme Lord Sri Krishna. IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS YOU SHOULD ALWAYS READ MY BOOKS DAILY AND ALL YOUR QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED AND YOU WILL HAVE A FIRM BASIS OF KRISHNA CONSCIOUSNESS. IN THIS WAY YOUR LIFE WILL BE PERFECT.
     
    730513mw.la               Conversations
    Paramahamsa: Srila Prabhupada, when you are not present with us, how is it possible to receive instructions, for example, on questions that may arise?
    Prabhupada: Well, the questions… ANSWERS ARE THERE IN MY BOOKS.
    Paramahamsa: Other than that, for example, that we would ask you in…
    Prabhupada: Yes.
    Paramahamsa: DO YOU DIRECT US ALSO THROUGH THE HEART? BESIDES THE PARAMATMA?
    Prabhupada: IF YOUR HEART IS PURE. EVERYTHING DEPENDS ON PURITY.
     
    740615rc.par              Conversations
    Yogesvara: “Is there some, any qualities, in the sense that some people have more receptivity towards the divine than other people?”
    Prabhupada: Yes. That I explained, sattva-guna, rajo-guna, tamo-guna. Those who are in sattva-guna, they can understand easily. Those who are in rajo-guna, they have got difficulty. AND THOSE WHO ARE IN TAMO-GUNA, THEY CANNOT. (French)
     
    Conclusion:
     
    75-08-04. Letter: Madhudvisa:
    The GBC should all be the instructor gurus. I AM IN THE INITIATOR GURU, and you should be the instructor guru by teaching what I am teaching and doing what I am doing. This is not a title, but you must actually come to this platform. This I want.
    “I AM THE SPIRITUAL MASTER OF THIS INSTITUTION, AND ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE SOCIETY, THEY’RE SUPPOSED TO BE MY DISCIPLES. They follow the rules and regulations which I ask them to follow, AND THEY ARE INITIATED BY ME SPIRITUALLY.”(Srila Prabhupada Radio Interview, 12/3/1968)
    “Guru-mukha-padma-vakya, cittete koriya aikya, ara na koriho mane asa. Don’t think of any nonsense. Simply execute what your guru has said. That is success.”
    (28th January, 1977, Room Conversation)
     
     
    “We request you to chant HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA, KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE, HARE RAMA HARE RAMA, RAMA RAMA HARE HARE, and your life will be sublime.”
    ys Mahesh

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  5. Bernd Prabhu, Please read the reply appended below in Block Letters ;

    ” Just a thought on the ritvik-system: out of their mercy the acaryas are directly accessible on their appearance and disappearance day, even if they are not physically present.

    ACARYA HDG. A.C. BHAGTIVEDENTA SWAMI SRILA PRABHUPADA IS PRESENT IN HIS VANI.

    What if Prabhupada simply extended his mercy in order to be accessible all the time for those who want to follow him?

    FOLLOW SRILA PRABHUPADA’S VANI WHICH IS ACCESSIBLE ALWAYS TO ALL.

    Also, the demigods who are not physically present on the earth, are accessible to countless demigod worshipers every day. If I am not mistaken, Prabhupada said that he would continue to preach on such-and-such planet in this univers after his departure from earth. When the demigods are accessible, wouldn’t the acarya, being as good as the sum total of the demigods, be accessible, too, if he is still in the same univers in which the demigods that some earthlings are worshipping, exist?

    SRILA PRABHUPADA IS PRESENT IN HIS VANI, EVEN THOUGH HE IS PHYSICALLY ABSENT.

    ISN’T IT ?

    OM TAT SAT.

    HARE KRISHNA. ALL GLORIES TO SRILA PRABHUPADA.

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