Who Is Representing Srila Prabhupada Now?

Who Is Representing Srila Prabhupada Now?

Who Is Representing Srila Prabhupada Now?
by Madhudvisa dasa

The ISKCON living gurus are advising their disciples: You can’t understand Prabhupada’s books or classes, you have to hear from me instead. You can’t understand Prabhupada… So that’s hardly being Prabhupada’s representative.

“Each temple will be an ISKCON property and will be managed by three executive directors. The system of management will continue as it is now and there is no need of any change.” (Srila Prabhupada’s will)

What was the system of management when Srila Prabhupada was physically present? How did the temples run? How did new devotees get trained-up and initiated? How did the system of authority work in ISKCON?

“I am very glad to note that you are seeing that the devotees are maintaining the devotional practices. This is the secret to success.

Therefore I am stressing it. And, if you also stress it and show yourself as an ideal Vaisnava, then you are my representative in fullness. We are not after titles and designations. Lord Caitanya made it a principle that we must teach by personal example. This is what I have tried to do. So if all of you my disciples do this, then the future of our movement will be glorious.” (74-10-31 Letter: Hrdayananda)

Srila Prabhupada’s management system for ISKCON is that he trained-up representatives who would then act on his behalf all over the world as Temple Presidents, GBCs, sannyasis and even regular devotees. In this way, although Srila Prabhupada was only one man, he could simultaneously preach all over the world through his representatives and his books. This is Srila Prabhupada’s management system for ISKCON and it should not have changed.

(“The system of management will continue as it is now and there is no need of any change…”)

“You have done very good by staying in N.Y. under the guidance of Sriman Brahmananda. In your last letter you proposed to come here, but Krishna has given you good counsel that instead of coming here, you have stopped at N.Y. and expended the passage money for temple expenditures. It is very good. IT IS AS GOOD TO SEE BRAHMANANDA BECAUSE HE IS MY REPRESENTATIVE, AND HE CAN INFORM YOU EVERYTHING WHICH I COULD HAVE DONE BY MEETING YOU.

Anyway, please act under the guidance of Brahmananda, so long I am not able to see you, and probably it will be possible to see you in the month of April next, when I am going to N.Y. I thank you once more for your service spirit to Lord Krishna, and I am sure He will bestow upon you more and more service spirit.” (68-02-20 Letter: Robert)

“The thing is discipline can not be observed unless there is obedience. AS YOU ARE OBEDIENT TO ME, YOU SHOULD BE SIMILARLY OBEDIENT TO MY REPRESENTATIVE. Your statement about Brahmananda that he is a wonderful devotee is 100% agreed by me. He is in charge of the New York center, and, therefore, if proper obedience is not given to him it will be impossible for him to manage the affairs of the temple. Under the circumstances, the discrepancies you have observed in the temple may be referred to him, and he is quite reasonable, and will handle the matter with the respective devotees. Please don’t you take any direct actions because it will cause disruption. You are a very talented boy, and I have every confidence in you, so I hope you will do this and oblige. (69-02-07 Letter: Nara-narayana)

In these quotes we find the key to Srila Prabhupada’s transcendental management system for ISKCON. We can see that as early as 1968 Prabhupada had already appointed “representatives of the acarya,” and he is already saying, “it is as good to see my representative as me.”

Srila Prabhupada was training devotees and empowering them to act as his representatives and in this way they got the strength and purity to attract new devotees, to manage the temples and to preach. Srila Prabhupada developed the entire “International Society For Krishna Consciousness” from absolutely nothing to a huge, powerful, revolutionary world-wide spiritual movement in just a few years by using this simple management system. He trained disciples then empowered them to act as his representatives. In turn these devotees attracted new devotees and trained them also to become SRILA PRABHUPADA’S REPRESENTATIVES.

This feeling of being Srila Prabhupada’s representative was all-pervasive in ISKCON. The book distributors were also conscious they were Srila Prabhupada’s representatives. And any devotee who sincerely acted in this way, following the principles and Srila Prabhupada’s instructions, was empowered by Srila Prabhupada, and they could actually act as his representatives with great spiritual strength and potency.

In ISKCON today it’s difficult to find ANYONE who’s acting as Srila Prabhupada’s representative, acting on Srila Prabhupada’s behalf.

The “living gurus” are acting as “little Prabhupada’s” and are advising their disciples: “You can’t understand Prabhupada’s books or classes, you have to hear from me… I have some lecture tapes and books also–hear them instead. You can’t understand Prabhupada…” So that’s hardly being Prabhupada’s representative. And the position of the Temple Presidents is very unclear. In the “zonal acarya” days the TPs were certainly representatives of the “zonal acarya,” not Prabhupada, but what they are now I don’t know. I don’t think they even know themselves! So where’s the authority? We used to obey the Temple President because he was Prabhupada’s representative, but why should devotees obey the TP today? Who’s representative is he now?

We hear so often from ISKCON “everyone needs a living guru.” It’s true, we all need personal guidance and instruction to help us advance in Krishna consciousness. Srila Prabhupada has given us everything in his books, but there are still many things one needs to learn in the association of devotees. That’s why Srila Prabhupada empowered his disciples to become his representatives.

The “living guru” sect claim Srila Prabhupada can no longer accept disciples because he can’t assocate with such disciples physically as ISKCON’s “living gurus” can. However most of Srila Prabhupada’s directly initiated disciples in his physical presence could not get such direct personal guidance from Srila Prabhupada either!

Srila Prabhupada had so many disciples and such a busy schedule, how could he possibly solve each and every personal problem of every one of his disciples? However Srila Prabhupada actually did give direct personal one-to-one guidance and training to all of his disciples THROUGH HIS REPRESENTATIVES. Even if one wrote to Srila Prabhupada personally on such matters he would generally simply refer the devotee to his representative in the area…

“You complain that as a householder it is very difficult. Especially you want to preach. There are examples of great preachers who were householders, such as Bhaktivinode Thakur, although we cannot hope to imitate him. You have not mentioned whether you are attending the activities of the temple and associating with the devotees in Melbourne, and these things are essential. Madhudvisa Swami is my representative in charge of devotional affairs in Australia and if you will discuss the specific situation with him, he will see that you become engaged in work just suitable to your situation as a householder.” (74-04-07 Letter: Raghunatha)

Srila Prabhupada stressed time and time again the best way to associate with the spiritual master is by following his instructions, that personal bodily service to the spiritual master was not as important as following his instructions. It is much more important to go out and distribute Srila Prabhupada’s books than to get his physical association.

Even on philosophical questions it was not very easy for an ordinary devotee to get a personal reply from Srila Prabhupada. Ordinary devotees generally couldn’t even write to Srila Prabhupada. If every one of Srila Prabhupada’s disciples wrote him a letter every month how on earth could he answer them? That’s why he empowered his disciples to act as his representatives, so they could answer the questions on his behalf. That’s also why Srila Prabhupada wrote his books. He put all the questions and answers in the books. And that’s what he would tell his disciples who would write to him with such questions.

“So if you can satisfy them intellectually and answer all their questions, that will be your success. All the answers are there in Srimad-Bhagavatam, Bhagavad-gita As It Is, and Teachings of Lord Caitanya. You will simply have to study these books to find out the answers. Anyway, I think Japan will be good field in future for spreading our Krishna Consciousness Movement. You are tested devotees; please handle the matter carefully, and Krishna will give you all help.” (69-10-03 Letter: Bali-mardana, Sudama)

“If one simply regularly chants and follows the rules and regulative principles all questions of philosophy will be answered by Krsna from within and all doubt will be cleared also in this way. And the same answers are there again in our books like Bhagavad-gita As It Is, Srimad-Bhagavatam, etc. So please see that all the initiated devotees stick rigidly to their daily chanting and regulative living in devotional service. This is most important.” (70-02-14 Letter: Madhudvisa)

“I am very glad to know that you are reading our literatures and you are very thoughtful about them. I am always happy to answer your questions, but you should practice to get the answers from your husband and try to find them out by reading further in our books. All questions will be clarified if you simply read our books very thoroughly and follow the simple process of devotional service as we have given it to chant regularly and rigidly observe the rules and regulations. This is our principle that the spiritual science becomes revealed to the devotee from within the heart according to the degree of his surrender to Krsna. You are a very hopeful student and intelligent devotee, so you continue to pursue your devotional activities patiently and Krsna will open your path of Krsna consciousness so you will progress more and more.” (70-07-25 Letter: Ekayani)

“So far you being philosophically-minded, that I can see and appreciate, but in future I think you can ask any questions you may have in these matters to one of the Swamis or to your GBC man. I have given them the answers to all such questions, so they can help you. I am an old man now, and my interests are turning to philosophy and translation. If you help me by relieving me from this administrative work, that will free me to give you so many more fine books from Vedic literature and from our own devotional line. So kindly assist me in this way. Actually, if you simply serve in a surrendered attitude, and go on chanting regularly, the answers to everything will come out automatically: “To those who are constantly devoted and worship Me with love, I give the understanding by which they can come to Me.” (X, 10). (72-02-27 Letter: Mohanananda)

“If you read all our books, Bhagavad-gita, Srimad-Bhagavatam, and others, you will get all the answers to your questions. Still I shall be very glad to answer besides that.” (74-07-16 Letter: Alfred Ford)

Still, even though Srila Prabhupada could not be physically present with all his disciples, he trained his senior disciples so they became competent in Krishna consciousness then they could act as his representatives. In this way, through his representatives, Srila Prabhupada could preach to the devotees and deal with their day-to-day spiritual and material problems all over the world.

Everyone, including the book distributors on the street, the Temple Presidents and the GBCs were conscious they were acting as Srila Prabhupada’s representatives and the whole movement went on nicely with everyone as godbrothers and Srila Prabhupada in the center.

The Temple President and the other senior devotees in the temple acted as siksa [instructing gurus] and Srila Prabhupada is the diksa [initiating guru]. Of course Srila Prabhupada is the main siksa guru also, but still there are so many things about Krishna consciousness we have to learn from the devotees. I know in my devotional life Srila Prabhupada is my guru, both diksa and siksa, but I had so many other siksa gurus in ISKCON. In fact I would have never even had the opportunity to read Srila Prabhupada’s books if the ISKCON devotees didn’t sell them to me.

Even if I read Srila Prabhupada’s books by myself I cannot imagine how I would have become Krishna conscious.

When I started reading Srila Prabhupada’s books it was more or less out of curiosity. I didn’t really believe people could do these things–get out of bed before 4:00am every morning, chant Hare Krishna for two or three hours every day and give up illicit sex even! It seemed impossible to me. So, just to see if the devotees were really doing these things, I started getting up early and going to the temple to see what was actually happening there. And everyone was chanting Hare Krishna in ecstasy and dancing and having a really wonderful time.

So I started chanting Hare Krishna also… But it’s only because I saw the devotees, other young people just like me, were chanting Hare Krishna and enjoying it. Then it became possible for me also to chant Hare Krishna seriously. It was not just something an old swami from India was talking about in a book, it was something real, something tangible that I could take part in and it was happening in a big house in Mt. Lawley (Perth, Western Australia) just 15 minutes walk from where I was living…

I owe a great debt to so many devotees who are my siksa gurus and without their sincere preaching and real love and concern for me I’m sure Krishna consciousness and Srila Prabhupada would have not been much more to me than an old Indian swami talking about things in a book which were not very practical and which I was unable to do.

Unfortunately almost all the devotees who were my siksa gurus are no longer in ISKCON, most of them became victims of the bogus ISKCON guru system and are now no longer seriously practicing Krishna consciousness. It’s heartbreaking to me to see ISKCON destroyng the lives of so many sincere devotees and Srila Prabhupada’s movement.

So we definitely need guidance and instruction from other devotees, however Srila Prabhupada has ALREADY provided that in ISKCON through his representatives, the Temple Presidents, the GBCs and the sannyasis. There’s absolutely no need for another group of “living gurus” to undermine the authority of Srila Prabhupada’s actual representatives and provide something that was never available to Srila Prabhupada’s disciples in his physical presence!

The whole “living guru” cult is completely bogus. Most of Prabhupada’s disciples had absolutely no opportunity for the physical one-to-one relationship the “living guru” cultists claim is so necessary for spiritual advancement.

The argument “one needs a living guru to get answers to his questions” is completely bogus. What’s wrong with asking the Temple President for the answers to your questions?? What’s wrong with reading Srila Prabhupada’s books and finding the answers?? That’s what devotees did in Srila Prabhupada’s physical presence.

Many devotees question where a person will get his spiritual authority from under the ritvik system. But they have not understood what the ritvik system Srila Prabhupada used himself to initiate his disciples is, otherwise this question would never arise.

The ritvik system IS ISKCON prior to Srila Prabhupada’s physical departure in 1977. All the Prabhupadanugas are saying is exactly what Srila Prabhupada said in his will: “The system of management will continue as it is now and there is no need of any change.”

The whole concept is nothing should have changed. Srila Prabhupada organized everything, including his acceptance and training of new disciples, in such a way that his physical presence was immaterial. He accepted disciples through his representatives and he trained his disciples through his representatives and his books.

Still many say, “but you need a ‘living guru’”. However they don’t seem to realize more than 90% of Srila Prabhupada’s disciples had very little personal association with Srila Prabhupada. Some of Srila Prabhupada’s directly initiated disciples never even saw Srila Prabhupada “living”…

Even if the devotees had the opportunity of living in the same temple as Srila Prabhupada for a week or so, all most of them would do is hear Srila Prabhupada give class and go on with their normal service (book distribution mostly). There was no opportunity to cook hundred-course banquets and spend all day idly chatting with “Guru Maharaja” as tends to happen with ISKCON “gurus” and their disciples today… Srila Prabhupada had his own cook and he was just eating rice, dhal, chapatis, subji, etc.

Simple prasadam… Not hundred-course banquets…

Most devotees do not realize there’s absolutely no place in the management system Srila Prabhupada established for ISKCON for ANY “living gurus” except His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada! That does not mean Srila Prabhupada’s disciples cannot take their own disciples, it just means they cannot do it in ISKCON.

The current ISKCON guru system is a complete concoction. To justify themselves ISKCON “gurus” say one needs a “living guru” and they claim Prabhupada is not a living guru.

With the exception of a few devotees in the beginning and some fortunate souls who served Srila Prabhupada as his personal servants, there was very little opportunity for Srila Prabhupada’s disciples to render him ANY physical service. There was also practically no opportunity for most devotees to even have one-to-one talks with Srila Prabhupada or even ask him questions in the class or write him a letter…

The devotees would hear Srila Prabhupada give class and he usually did not even ask for questions. Prabhupada would come into the temple at 7:00 to see the Deity Greeting and the devotees would offer Srila Prabhupada Guru-puja and have kirtan, then Srila Prabhupada would give his Bhagavatam class and ask them to “chant Hare Krishna.” Then there was another kirtan and prasadam and then everyone was out on book distribution for the whole day!

So the so-called “living guru” relationship ISKCON devotees have with their “gurus” was not possible for 99% of Srila Prabhupada’s disciples to have with him.

In Srila Prabhupada’s system the Temple Presidents, the GBC’s, the sannyasis and other senior devotees were expected to be siksa gurus for the devotees. So there was no need for a “living guru” except for Srila Prabhupada and Srila Prabhupada fulfilled all the needs of his disciples for training, personal association and answering questions by empowering his representatives, the Temple Presidents and GBC’s to act on his behalf.

So in Srila Prabhupada’s ISKCON there is no position in the organizational structure for gurus other than him. That is one of the reasons ISKCON’s “living guru” fiasco has been such a failure. There’s simply nothing for these “living gurus” to do in ISKCON!

Srila Prabhupada divided all the responsibility between the Temple Presidents and the GBC, he did not leave anything for so-called “living gurus” to do… And that’s the problem for the “living gurus” in ISKCON today. There’s no position for them in the structure of ISKCON, they have no authority at all. They don’t even have authority over their disciples! The ultimate authority is with the Temple Presidents and that can only be overridden by a vote of the full GBC with the agreement of the devotees in the temple. So where does that leave the “living gurus” and their disciples?

The result of the “living guru” philosophy has been the destruction of ISKCON. The “living gurus” have tried to usurp and undermine the authority of the Temple Presidents and have stolen millions of dollars from the temples in the name of “guru daksina.” In addition the competition and fighting among the “living gurus” and their disciples has created many factions within ISKCON who all have slightly different versions of the philosophy and all fight over new bhaktas to get them for “Their” guru…

The result is an unmanageable, unworkable organization without any logical philosophy to support its actions. It is COMPLETELY different from the ISKCON Srila Prabhupada established by training his disciples and empowering them to act as HIS representatives. The “living gurus” have turned ISKCON, which Srila Prabhupada created as Vaikuntha into hell…

“Recently when all of the GBC members were with His Divine Grace in Vrndavana, Srila Prabhupada indicated that soon He would appoint some of His senior disciples to act as “ritvik–representative of the acarya, for the purpose of performing initiations, both first initiation and second initiation. His Divine Grace has so far given a list of eleven disciples who will act in that capacity…” (Srila Prabhupada’s July 9th. Letter)

Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
Madhudvisa dasa

COMMENTS:

Gaurasundara Das says:
Hare Krishna Madhudvisa Prabhu. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada Please accept my humble obeisances.

There are emerging a number of devotees around the world without spiritual a name and who do not accept the “gurus” of “ISKCON” or the other apasampradayas and is necessary to implement a system to properly initiate on the behalf of Srila Prabhupada.

Another important point is that Srila Prabhupada based his preaching on the phrase “We are not these bodies”. Which means that we do not should look for material complacency of the senses (mind, intelligence and ego) but to awake our spiritual senses, something unknown for us and difficult to understand. Usually devotees conclude that the better is give pleasure to the senses until death and then chant Hare Krishna for liberation, pure materialism.

Bhaktisiddhanta said that “this so called human civilization based on the complacency of the senses must be crushed and on its ashes build a temple.” He said it one hundred years ago in India the cradle of the spirituality in the world and when social conditions were not so deteriorated as today. (Srila Prabhupada in one of his room conversations strongly wished the devotees preach in India).

A society based on the complacency of the senses implies that some enjoy while others suffer. A society of exploiters and exploited, or oppressors and oppressed. This is the basic principle of the immorality and demons infiltrated the Hare Krishna movement in the role of “devotee,” “swamis” and “gurus” exploit the devotees in the interests of their personal complacency. They interpreted the Hare Krishna movement is nothing more than another array of exploiters and exploited to gratification of the senses at the expense of others and at the end we will go to heaven. They understand so blatantly that: “Loving devotional service,” means work for free or selflessly. This free work is not understand neither because is interpreted that nobody gives nothing for nothing and are only interested in eating, having a roof and some other material gain that we can draw from devotees.

Another point is that it’s said that the process is: “Chanting, dancing and eating.” This is interpreted as the sense gratification. Or it’s a spiritual way to gratification or exploitation. Something opposed to the devotion and does not help on the spiritual progress. There is not a line to define where begins the spiritual and ends the material.

If we are ready to begin a program of preach to continue with Srila Prabhupada´s movement is necessary to review the philosophical basis and begin printing some flyers, pamphlets or triplets, to be distributed for free in harinama sankirtan in all languages with the address and telephone number of each group in particular, with a clear message adapted to the time, place and circumstances. The matter is the difference between divine life and demonic. It is said that if one reads Srimad Bhagavatam and not develop love for the devotees will have to spend much time in hell. The idea is to re-establish the statutes of ISKCON based on seven the points: “Unite the devotees, etc.

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The “living guru” concoction is based only in the material aspect of the guru and they don’t have any knowledge or spiritual realization. They are not livings also because they don’t have any spiritual live; the sadhana bhakti for them is some kind of Maya and they don’t fall in it. Nobody can represent Srila Prabhupada except himself, his books and the completely surrendered disciples to the Acharya (Spiritual Master.)

The today’s “ISKCON” is no more the Movement for Krishna Consciousness that Srila Prabhupada founded. “ISKCON” don’t have money to print books or people to distribute them, the “living gurus” that aren’t Krishna Conscious are selling all the properties of ISKCON and are using the remnants of ISKCON for personal profits.

So the initiations in today’s “ISKCON” should be accepted only in behalf of Srila Prabhupada as always. Is said in the Vedas that in order to dispel the illusion of Maya, the jiva should take shelter at the feet of a genuine guru who is a true Vaisnava. The Vaisnava guru can impart you knowledge by his words and behaviours. This is known as diksa and siksa. If one has previously accepted diksa and siksa from an unqualified guru, he should be initiated and receive instructions again when he meets a genuine guru.

“Learned scholars have determined that a Vaisnava is one who is initiated into a Visnu mantra in accordance with the regulations of sastra, and who is engaged in the worship of Sri Visnu. All others are known as non-Vaisnavas.” (Hari-bhakti-viläsa 1.55)

The padma Purana says: “Initiation into the exclusive chanting of the Krishna mantra is extremely beneficial for the devotee when a bona fide spiritual master initiates him into this mantra, but “Diksa mantras not received from the acaryas in one of the four sampradayas will be fruitless.”

The “living gurus” are not surrendered to any sampradaya, not by the instructions of any guru and not by any spiritual practice.

Hare Krishna.
I hope you be well and static in Krishna consciousness.
Your servant Goura.

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Catherine Blackwell writes:

Srila Prabhupada: “A dog, he cannot go to a guru. That is not possible. But a human being, he must. Abhigacchet. It must. It is not optional, that ‘I may go, or I may not.’ No, you must. That is the injunction. That is the Vedic injunction.” (Lecture: Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.2.2 — Vrndavana, September 6, 1975)

Whom to follow – follow Vani – the books

Srila Prabhupada: “Follow the general course, sādhana-siddhi. The regulative principles you must follow as instructed in the śāstra. Therefore there are so many śāstras. And guru is guide. We must always… Even if you are nitya-siddha or kṛpa-siddha, you should not neglect the general regulative principle. That is very dangerous. Don’t try to do that. We must follow. Nitya. Just like Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Caitanya Mahāprabhu is Kṛṣṇa Himself, God, but He is accepting guru. Who is His guru? He is guru of everyone, but He has also accepted Īśvara Purī as His guru. Kṛṣṇa Himself, He accepted His guru, Sāndīpani Muni, teaching us that without guru you cannot make any advance. Ādau gurvāśrayam. The first business is to accept guru…. Don’t think that ‘I am so advanced. I may not require any guru. I can do without guru.’ That is nonsense. That, not possible. ‘Must.’ … If you are actually serious to understand the transcendental science, spiritual knowledge, oh, you must have guru. … Guru cannot be self-made. No. There is no such single instance throughout the whole Vedic literature. And nowadays, so many rascals, they are becoming guru without any authority. That is not guru. You must be authorized. Evaṁ paramparā-prāptam imaṁ rā… [Bg. 4.2]. AS SOON AS THE PARAMPARĀ IS LOST, sa kālena yoga naṣṭo parantapa, IMMEDIATELY FINISHED. THE SPIRITUAL POTENCY FINISHED.” (Lecture : Srimad-Bhagavatam 7.9.7 — Mayapur, February 27, 1977)

“The example I have already… Sometimes I give. Just like I speak in the tape recorder. When you play, replay the tape recorder, the same voice will come. But that is not myself. That is my separated energy. With my energy I have spoken something, I have vibrated some sound. That is recorded in the tape. When it is played back, it produces exactly the same sound, but still, it is separated from me. Try to understand.” — Lecture: Bhagavad-gita 7.4 — Vrndavana, August 10, 1974

“Separated energy you’ll understand: just like I am speaking, and my speech is being recorded in the tape recorder. So even I am not here, if you apply the machine, it will exactly speak like me. That is my energy, but now it is separated. It cannot be changed. Suppose I am personally sitting here. If I want to speak something and I can change into another, but that machine cannot change. It will simply produce the sound, what is recorded there. Therefore it is separated energy.” — Lecture: Srimad-Bhagavatam 7.7.22-26 — San Francisco, March 10, 1967

“Just like I am speaking and it is being recorded. When it will be replayed, you will find that I am speaking, but that speaking is separated. The speaking has come from me, but in the tape record it appears that it is separated. Or it is separated. In one sense it is not separated because originally comes from me, and another sense, it is mechanical going on. So similarly, this material world is also Kṛṣṇa.” — Lecture: Bhagavad-gita 7.6 — Hyderabad, December 11, 1976

“How separated energies? Try to understand what is separated energy. Just like in the tape record, I sing or speak, it is recorded. But when the tape record plays, I do not speak, I do not sing, but it is my energy. It is working. That is separated energy. And when I speak directly, that is not separated energy.” — Lecture: Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Madhya-lila 6.151-154 — Gorakhpur, February 14, 1971

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750716pc.sf Conversations
Reporter (2): What will happen to the movement in the United States when you die?
Prabhupada: I WILL NEVER DIE.
Devotees: Jaya! Hari bol! (laughter)
Prabhupada: I SHALL LIVE From MY BOOKS, AND YOU WILL UTILIZE.
Reporter (2): Are you training a successor?
Prabhupada: Yes, my Guru Maharaja is there. Where is my photo of Guru Maharaja? I think… Here is.

Indian Lady: … is that spiritual master still guiding after death?
Srila Prabhupada: Yes, yes. Just like Krsna is guiding us, similarly spiritual master will guide us. (General lectures, 69/09/23)

Devotee: Srila Prabhupada when you’re not present with us, how is it possible to receive instructions? For example in questions that may arise…

SRILA PRABHUPADA: Well the questions are answ… answers are there in my books.
(Morning Walk, Los Angeles, 13/5/73)

So utilise whatever time you find to make a thorough study of my books. Then all your questions will be answered. (Letter to Upendra, 7/1/76)

Every one of you must regularly read our books at least twice, in the morning and evening, and automatically all questions will be answered. ( Letter to Randhira, 24/01/70)

If I depart there is no cause for lamentation. I will always be with you through my books and orders. I will always remain with you in that way. (BTG 13:1-2, December 1977)

74-11-22 Letter: Bahurupa
In my books the philosophy of Krishna Consciousness is EXPLAINED FULLY so if there is anything which you do not understand, then you simply have to read again and again. By reading daily THE KNOWLEDGE WILL BE REVEALED TO YOU AND BY THIS PROCESS YOUR SPIRITUAL LIFE WILL DEVELOP.

Note: This clearly indicates that Srila Prabhupada’s books are understood through their own potency, and that there is therefore no need for a physically present guru to understand the books. Our Srimad Bhagavatam is unique because the verses of the Bhagavatam are directly complemented with the purports of Srila Prabhupada, who is the bonafide maha-bhagavata ; therefore, the book Bhagavata and the person Bhagavata are combined in Srila Prabhupada’s Srimad Bhagavatam. Therefore, there is no need for a third party, “the so called current Iskcon links” to (mis)interpret what Srila Prabhupada “really means to say”. sic

Comments

  1. Amar Puri says:

    It is very true and clear for a simple, straight forward honest seeker only what is quoted in the article above as per Srila Prabhupada’s Instructions. However , it is very much UNTRUE and UNCLEAR for a complicated, crooked minded persons of all sorts including present Iskcon’s management of Srila Prabhupada and a personality like Rocana dasa Prabhu one of the most senior disciple of Srila Prabhupada to accept Srila Prabhupada’s Instructions because Srila Prabhupada Instructions do not correspond with the GURU TATTVA .

    A senior disciple Rocana dasa challenges to his Guru Maharaj Srila Prabhupada’s Instructions. How any sane person with the right mind can do such thing and still continues to use SRILA Prabhupada Name, Fame and Status in order to bolster his own vested interest. That is HYPOCRISY, Cheating and lying. That is the qualifications of a CROOKED and COMPLICATED minded person.

    Hope the sincere minded followers of CROOKED gurus follow Srila Prabhupada Instructions and reject the bogus gurus to make their lives sublime in KC.

    Hari BOL.

  2. Sudarsana Das Vanacari says:

    When I joined the Adelaide ISKCON temple at the beginning of the 80s I had a lot of ”association” of “devotees” at a time when Bhavananda was spruiking his “I’m a bona-fide guru” mantra same as these bogus ISKCON “gurus” are doing at present, so no change there! It was his “vyasa puja” and everyone was chiding me as I hadn’t written my ‘realizations’ for “vyasa-puja book”, of how he was (in their words) ”bona-fide guru”, “pure devotee” and “authorized representative of ISKCON and Srila Prabhupada”!

    Not long after that it was revealed that he was in fact a deviate, molester and abuser of little boys and involved in a homosexual paedophile “ring” involving his other various associates such as Satadanya etc.
    I questioned some of the members in the temple about their “realizations” and they were in a state of shock! and couldn’t give me an answer which made any sense. The point beying that how can you have a ”realization” of something that IS NOT TRUE!…….you can only realize REALITY itself! and any sentiments these devotees had written were merely EXPECTATIONS imposed upon them due to ignorance of the truth! based on an inability to adhere to the advise of Srila Prabhupada.

    HOW CAN YOU REALIZE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT TRUE? ….HOW?

    The REAL answers in spiritual life come from a strong belief and adherence to the principals and direction of the Acharya His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada and as he has said many times ALL THE ANSWERS TO ALL THE QUESTIONS ARE FULLY REVEALED in this way! The words of bogus “gurus” cannot be taken as ‘answers’ to questions of spiritual nature, neither the “realizations” of countless fools and conditioned souls….What is the value of such “realizations”? There is no need for these superfluous “intermediaries” in ones sincere connection to His Divine Grace, they are irrelevant and just an obstacle in our REAL connection to Srila Prabhupada.

    I congratulate the devotees who are facilitating this website and to the many contributors also for bringing Srila Prabhupada’s true wishes to the forefront and exposing the false, bogus guru hoax perpetuated by “FALSITY AND EXPECTATION”

    All glories to Srila Prabhupada

    Sudarsana

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