JAIPUR STRUGGLE FOR TRUTH – II

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1. Mahaniya Das says:

   4. May 2014 at 12:16 pm

   I am shocked that so called prabhupadanugas are fighting against other prabhupadanugas instead of combined fighting against bogus IskCON gurus.

   Puranjana with his usual terminology twisting the facts criticising the prabhupadanugas.eu for publishing misleading articles. But it is actually Puranjana misleading devotees with his “hate-rhetoric” against Dayalu Nitai.

   Puranjana has been exposed already by Prahlad Prabhu and others for instigating:

   http://padaproblems.blogspot.in/2014/01/pada-prahlad-wants-to-destroy-entire.html

   I fully agree with Prahlad Prabhu: it is shocking that the official ISKCON Times website has published Puranjanas misleading statements, completely twisting the real facts. Tim Lee clearly suffers from serious mental disorders.

   Srila Prabhupada: “I wish that each and every branch shall keep their separate identity and cooperate keeping the acharya in the center. On this principle we can open any number of branches all over the world. The RamaKrishna mission works on this principle and thus as an organization they have done wonderfully.” (Prabhupada Letter, February 11, 1967)

   http://harekrishnacommunity.blogspot.in/

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2. Amar Puri says:

   4. May 2014 at 7:36 pm

   For the immediate attention of Dayalu Nitai Das Prabhu,

   As it appears that you are running your show separately from IB and MPP team, therefore, using a trade mark of any other establishment without valid permission is considered a CRIME.

   As you admitted that you did use the Trade mark of AP and a personal name of MMP without valid permission IN HAND which has created the whole MESS and MISUNDERSTANDING despite the fact that you are having success in your own endeavour to establish your preaching program in the service of Srila Prabhupada at WHAT COST when you at least come to think about it in the mode of Satva Guna ?

   Do you think that Srila Prabhupada is really happy when you are motivated in doing such type of action to serve Srila Prabhupada’s mission ?

   My humble suggestion to you is simply STOP this type of unethical practises and withdraw all of your unproductive harmful useless efforts as you seem to commit in heading towards that direction as it appears in your comments which reads ;

   ” Madhu Pandit Prabhu, Chanchalpati Prabhu, Jai Caitanya Prabhu, Chitranga Caitanya Prabhu, Amitasana Prabhu – is there anybody who will give their impartial judgement ? If there is any wrong from my side I am ready to accept and correct but at least you should sit and talk.

   I will wait for a few more days and if there is no reply then I will forward this mail to other senior Prabhupadanuga devotees like Krishnakant Prabhu, Gokul Chandra Prabhu, Prahlad Prabhu, Vrindavanchandra Prabhu and others asking for their help. Is MPP and AP answerable to somebody or they are ultimate authority in themselves and can do anything including trying to destroy a nice flourishing group of sincere Prabhupadanuga devotees!!! ”

   DAYALU NITAI DAS PRABHU, once again I humbly beg from you to kindly accept and correct your actions and continue rendering SELFLESS service in your endeavours separately without finger pointing at any body which is Self- destructive not only for your side but IB and MMP, AP side also because both sides are Prabhupadanuga serving for the mission of Srila Prabhupada with proper ethics IF you are TRULY Honest FREE FROM any Personal – Desires.

   By the way, I am simply a fallen soul trying to serve sincere and serious followers of Srila Prabhupada as per my ability and capability.

   Otherwise, I have no other qualification and/or Spiritual merits like your good-self and many others Prabhupada’s followers.

   I sincerely do hope that you may accept this my humble request.

   OM TAT SAT.

   All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.

   YS……..Amar Puri.

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3. marica says:

   4. May 2014 at 10:14 pm

   This website is very good, because it give us a lot of informations .
   But I do not know where is the truth. There are bogus gurus and their disciples, and competing groups ( who follow Srila Prabhupada ).

   in this case PADA is right ( Open Letter to Jaipur for Truth HKC devotees from PADA , detail ):

   “Karmis are much smarter than all this, they have (A) the Ford car dealership, and (B) Chevrolet car dealership, right next door to one another, but they know they cannot use personal attacks and mud slinging with the customers, or no customers will come at all to either dealership, they will both fail. The customers will think both dealership are envious, low class and foolish. Then the customers will all go away, move their business over across town — and buy a Honda from the dealer who is not engaged in mud-slinging, and forget you fighting dealers.”

   All Glories to Srila Prabhupada .

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4. Prahlad Das says:

   5. May 2014 at 2:43 pm

   Marica. Tim Lee (Puranjana/PADA/krishna1008) is #1 hypocrite as it is he who is doing all the personal attacks and mud-slinging. This is all he has done for 30+ years. He is reason why the Prabhupadanuga ‘ritviks’ are seen as offensive, fanatical, crazy, liars, etc.. His job is to defame the real Prabhupadanugas (except IB/AP Corporation) and cause fighting between them. He is paid-up cheerleader of ISKCON Bangalore and acts under the orders of Yasodanandana (IB’s ‘Western advisor’ & GBC). He is seen, and promoted, by many devotees who think he is some kind of leader of the Prabhupadanugas, but he is only a wolf in sheep’s clothing. They have fallen for his decades of lies and distortions. Now he is attacking, demonising & offending the genuine, sincere Prabhupadanugas from HKC Jaipur. He has gone too far. The worldwide Prabhupadanugas should demand that he and Madhu Pandit will stop their un-Vaisnava and low-class behaviour towards those who are sincerely trying to push on Prabhupada’s mission and strictly follow all of his instructions. They should meet for Istaghosti and resolve these issues, but so far they have only set their attack dog (Puranjana) on anybody who disagrees with them in any way. What kind of ‘devotees’ will continue to behave like this?

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5. Kishan Gorai says:

   5. May 2014 at 3:15 pm

   My name is Kishan Gorai currently in fourth year SKIT. I have been attending the programs of BIg Gyan in SKIT since first year. Few of my friends, I would like to tell disclose their names, Divyanshu Bharadwaj, CS,Second Shift 4th year Satya Prakash Vijay,EE,4th year and Ashok Bishnoi,CS,Second Shift 4th year,Kundan Krishan,IT,4th Year IT since they started attending the programs of Akshay Patra started blaspheming about HKC.These four students were earlier very much involved in the various programs of HKC in SKIT and other big events organised by HKC but it all happened like that and they became against HKC.

   Surprisingly my friend Kundan Krishan proposed me of joining full time in AP, offering me to repay my education loan through the organisation. The students who are joining Akshay Patra are just being lured by so called “BIG Orgnisation” and such opulent setup,they are not joining the ashram for serving Prabhupada but they are just being attracted and impressed by opulence of the organisation and some who are financially weak are lured to join ashram by proposing them that their families would get financial aid.

   Many of my friends have got offensive messages about HKC from AP devotees telling them all that HKC is bogus.

   Now is this Krishna Conscious preaching? These ae activities which are showing that they are less than the neophytes.

   There have been lots of mails sent To Madhu Pandit Prabhu and Chanchal Pati Prabhu to intervene and stop these nonsense activities of Akshay patra jaipur. Mails were also sent to Ratnagada Prabhu,President Akshay Patra Jaipur and Anant Sesh Prabhu regarding all these activities but there have no reply of these mails which itself is showing that they are in no mood to accept their mistakes.

   In fact I am amazed to see all these non sense activities just making a mockery of the teachings of Srila Prabhupada in the name of following him. In order to take some protective action we recently conducted a signature campaign in which about 150 students agreed that the Akshay patra is doing nothing but nonsense by preaching against HKC.

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6. marica says:

   5. May 2014 at 10:15 pm

   Prahlad das.
   Thank you for the explanation.

   “The Lord is more clever than any living entity; therefore He wants to see how painstaking the devotee is in devotional service. The order is received from the Lord, either directly or through the bona fide spiritual master, and to execute that order, however painstaking, is the severe type of penance. One who follows the principle rigidly is sure to achieve success in attaining the Lord’s mercy.” ( SB.2.9.24.Purport )

   All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.

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7. HKC devotees says:

   7. May 2014 at 6:34 pm

   HKC Devotees say:

   Amar Puri Prabhu :
   For the immediate attention of Dayalu Nitai Das Prabhu,
   As it appears that you are running your show separately from IB and MPP team,

   HKC devotees :
   It would be better if we would say that IB and MPP team is running their show separately from HKC because the truth is that we were already having our center in Jaipur much before even Akshay Patra came in existence. A.P came later on and after they got established in Jaipur (wherein Dayalu Prabhu and all our devotees played a major role by vigorously fighting against Iskcon who were trying to foil their attempt to get land here), first thing they did was to propose to Dayalu Prabhu to close his center and move to Jodhpur (a much smaller city than Jaipur) and preach under A.P’s banner as 2 centers in one city will create problem. When Dayalu Prabhu replied that he is feeling very enthusiastic in preaching here and getting good results also so he would not prefer to go somewhere else. Dayalu Prabhu wrote to them that actually both can co-exist if we agree on some memorandum of understanding to preach or may be Ratnagada can be sent to some bigger city or whatever everyone decides in a meeting which will be best for Srila Prabhupada’s preaching mission in Jaipur. There was no reply to this proposal and instead A.P Jaipur took the stand of calling HKC bogus and telling everyone that I am demanding some post etc. so I was removed from A.P and decided to continue their show separately.

   Amar Puri Prabhu :
   therefore, using a trade mark of any other establishment without valid permission is considered a CRIME.

   HKC devotees :
   Prabhu this whole comment is based on this false assumption that HKC has used A.P’s name illegally. Please see the flyer in which HKC has given a section “Appreciation by prominent personalities” in which there are comments by Gauridas Pandit Prabhu, Madhu Pandit Prabhu (Chairman, Akshay Patra), Dr. Swarankar (CMD – Mahatama Gandhi Medical University), Mr. S.R. Meel (MD – SKIT group of colleges) appreciating the preaching work of HKC.
   
   Does this mean that we have used SKIT’s name (one of the biggest group of Engg. Colleges), Mahatma Gandhi Medical University’s name (a very big name in Medical field) illegally??? Does it mean that we are posing SKIT, MGMC or A.P??? It is simply saying that the heads of these organizations are praising HKC which is true as all these personalities including MPP have actually written these comments to us. None of the other personalities are complaining except MPP. In fact these heads of SKIT or MGMC who are not devotees in normal estimation are very happy if their comments can give some benefit to our preaching activities. Only MPP is unhappy about it. In the first place why did MPP give this comment in writing which he does not want others to know??? Why this duplicit behavior??? What harm can this comment do to MPP or A.P??? This comment could have helped HKC to counteract the bad propaganda by A.P Jaipur devotees but MPP wrote some instigating mails after this which made the situation here worse. What is MPP’s problem??? Is this not Srila Prabhupada’s movement ? In fact MPP’s angry response in not wanting to use this simple 2 line of appreciation by HKC is very surprising!!!

   Amar Puri Prabhu :
   As you admitted that you did use the Trade mark of AP and a personal name of MMP without valid permission IN HAND which has created the whole MESS and MISUNDERSTANDING

   HKC devotees :
   First of all there is no misunderstanding here. It is very clear to everyone (you can go through the open letter of Dayalu Nitai Prabhu to MPP and CPP once more) that A.P, Jaipur devotees have been calling HKC bogus etc. after Dayalu Nitai Prabhu showed reluctance to close his centre and move to some other city which was proposed by IB GBC after they got established in Jaipur. For your kind information HKC was already preaching from before and having their centre and A.P came to Jaipur much later. It is also clear to all of us that MPP, CPP and other IB GBC know about it since Dayalu Prabhu had been writing mails to MPP with a CC to all these GBC men.
   In fact this incident of printing MPP’s favorable comment has solved this misunderstanding on our part that MPP/CPP will judge this situation impartially without the feelings of “me and mine” and rectify this problem. After this incident MPP started using words like “full scale war” and instead of finding a peaceful solution , started instigating these A.P, Jaipur devotees who increased their attacks after the approval of their leader. Dayalu Nitai Prabhu was telling MPP that why is he making a big issue out of this incident and not referring to the main issue wherein his A.P, Jaipur devotees are trying to crush Srila Prabhupada’s movement going on here. But there was no response, infact he wrote to Dayalu Prabhu not to write any more mails to him. Now it is very clear to us that MPP, CPP never wanted to stop this and they were being nice nice to us while on the back this bad propaganda was continuing. We were very naïve and took too much time to realize that actually their silence meant approval.

   Amar Puri Prabhu :
   despite the fact that you are having success in your own endeavour to establish your preaching program in the service of Srila Prabhupada at WHAT COST when you at least come to think about it in the mode of Satva Guna ?

   HKC devotees :
   After reading the above carefully please tell us what is the definition of Sattva Guna and in which Guna MPP is operating?

   Amar Puri Prabhu :
   Do you think that Srila Prabhupada is really happy when you are motivated in doing such type of action to serve Srila Prabhupada’s mission ?

   HKC devotees :
   We think Srila Prabhupada will be very pleased with the following approach which HKC has taken in the last 4-5 years to protect his movement going on in Jaipur –
   1) First we tolerated and ignored all the injustices being done by A.P Jaipur thinking that it will stop in due course and continued our positive preaching.This was approx.. from 2008-09.
   2) When things were not stopping but instead increasing we first approached Ratnagada (T.P, A.P, Jaipur). This was around 2010-11
   3) When Ratnagada told us that you do your preaching and we do our preaching but the bad propaganda still did not stop then we approached senior devotees like MPP, CPP and other IB GBC members. This was around 2011-12
   4) When there were only assurances but no action from them for a long time then we started writing stronger mails to them. This was around 2012-13
   5) When MPP closed all doors for talks and declared “full scale war” on the plea of this trivial issue of printing his simple 2 line appreciation sent by him to Dayalu Nitai Prabhu, we wrote one final mail to CPP to give us some concrete date for meeting otherwise we will have to come in public. This was around 2014.
   6)Even after this when there was no response then we decided to appeal to other Prabhupadanuga devotees to intervene and also started raising this issue in public.This was around March 2014 (2 months back).
   Please send us if there could have been a better approach by HKC devotees which would please Srila Prabhupada more.

   Amar Puri Prabhu :
   My humble suggestion to you is simply STOP this type of unethical practises and withdraw all of your unproductive harmful useless efforts as you seem to commit in heading towards that direction as it appears in your comments which reads ;

   HKC devotees :
   It is very clear from the above statements who is ethical and who is unethical. We surely agree with your other statement that our efforts for cooperation are useless as inspite of so much agitation still there is no indication from MPP and group for a istagosthi wherein these things can be discussed and a peaceful solution can be arrived at.

   Amar Puri Prabhu :
   ” Madhu Pandit Prabhu, Chanchalpati Prabhu, Jai Caitanya Prabhu, Chitranga Caitanya Prabhu, Amitasana Prabhu – is there anybody who will give their impartial judgement ? If there is any wrong from my side I am ready to accept and correct but at least you should sit and talk.

   I will wait for a few more days and if there is no reply then I will forward this mail to other senior Prabhupadanuga devotees like Krishnakant Prabhu, Gokul Chandra Prabhu, Prahlad Prabhu, Vrindavanchandra Prabhu and others asking for their help. Is MPP and AP answerable to somebody or they are ultimate authority in themselves and can do anything including trying to destroy a nice flourishing group of sincere Prabhupadanuga devotees!!! ”

   DAYALU NITAI DAS PRABHU, once again I humbly beg from you to kindly accept and correct your actions and continue rendering SELFLESS service in your endeavours separately without finger pointing at any body which is Self- destructive not only for your side but IB and MMP, AP side also because both sides are Prabhupadanuga serving for the mission of Srila Prabhupada with proper ethics IF you are TRULY Honest FREE FROM any Personal — Desires.

   HKC devotees :
   Prabhu , at this point I can just remember one quote of Srila Prabhupada “calling a thief a thief is certainly not wrong but calling an honest man a thief is very detrimental to one making progress in spiritual life.”

   Amar Puri Prabhu :
   By the way, I am simply a fallen soul trying to serve sincere and serious followers of Srila Prabhupada as per my ability and capability.

   HKC devotees :
   Prabhu, pleases study all the events carefully and give your impartial judgment that will be very pleasing to Srila Prabhupada. Supporting untruth, talking untruth will certainly bear bad reactions in our life and may cause so many offences.

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8. Prahlad Das says:

   8. May 2014 at 6:18 pm

   Article published today on IB’s official ‘ISKCON Truth’ website:

   ‘Prabhupadanugas against Madhu Pandit Dasa: Truth Revealed’

   “Reply From ISKCON Bangalore to these alligations”

   http://www.iskcontruth.com/2014/05/prabhupadanugas-against-madhu-pandit.html

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9. Bhakta John (Netherland) says:

   9. May 2014 at 12:24 pm

   Hari Krishna
   All glories to our dear Spiritual Master HDG Srila Prabhupada.

   PAMHO.

   I am still amazed why no senior devotee, MPP, CPP or IB GBC member, from IB group is not coming publicly to resolve this whole issue , which is of-course very unpleasant.
   Instead of resolving the issue Iskcon Bangalore is more and more twisting the issue by publishing these article of PADA, who was a small hero at a time but not now. Now PADA/Puranjana is no more in good state of mind. We can see all this very clearly , he is master in misinterpreting the things.

   Things are very very clear in the letters of Dayalu prabhu and these can be resolved if IB/AP devotees stop their acts and sit together with HKC devotees for a peaceful solution.

   I liked the reply of HKC devotees to Amar puri prabhu in above comments. Again HKC devotees gave good arguments which are anyway facts also.

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10. Amar Puri says:

    9. May 2014 at 6:34 pm

    Dear HKC Devotees,

    Please accept my humble obeisances to all of you. AGTSP.

    Thank you for your kind reply. It seems that you are replying to my comments on behalf of HG. Dayalu Nitai Das Prabhu who is certainly aware of what you are writing in replying to my comments.

    After reading carefully, I find that there are various link missing in HKC devotees’ writing which I am addressing here below for further clarifications ;

    HKC devotees : ” ……….There was no reply to this proposal and instead A.P Jaipur took the stand of calling HKC bogus and telling everyone that I am demanding some post etc. so I was removed from A.P and decided to continue their show separately. ”

    Who ( authoritative personal of AP ) took the stand of calling HKC as bogus ?

    Who fabricated this lie that HG DND Prabhu was removed from AP when he never had any link with AP ? Is there any such proof to establish the TRUTH ?

    HKC devotees : ” ……… appreciating the preaching work of HKC. ”

    Knowing very well that HKC devotees have ISSUES and concerns with HG MMP and AP. , then why would some body with the right mind use such appreciation or endorsement some sort IF the PERMISSION is not given in writing to advertise it ? That is THE PROBLEM itself. That is why it appears as CRIMINAL which created a MESS and further MISUNDERSTANDING in relation with HG MMP and AP. Isn’t it ?

    Did HKC devotees have any sort of ISSUES or concerns with various establishments who appreciated the HKC work ? It does not look like from the Truth presented in the article. Therefore, HKC devotees are/were FREE from any allegation from those establishments. Is this not a FACT ?

    Further HKC devotees write in replying to my question ;

    Amar Puri Prabhu :
    despite the fact that you are having success in your own endeavour to establish your preaching program in the service of Srila Prabhupada at WHAT COST when you at least come to think about it in the mode of Satva Guna ?

    HKC devotees :
    After reading the above carefully please tell us what is the definition of Sattva Guna and in which Guna MPP is operating?

    SATTVA Guna represents NO Hankering and NO Lamentation for a personal satisfaction.

    Are HG MPP, AP and HG DND, HKC devotees freely operating from personal satisfaction without hankering and lamentation ?

    The Choice is Individual to choose from the above either to accept it or reject it.

    Should both the sides reach to an amicable resolution FREELY OPERATING FROM PERSONAL SATISFACTION WITHOUT HANKERING AND LAMENTATION simply and purely in the service of the mission of our Jagat Gauru Srila Prabhupada, there would have no PROBLEM at all.

    Is it not TRUE ?

    HKC devotees : ” …….. raising this issue in public.This was around March 2014 (2 months back).”

    Why did HKC devotees not raise this conflicting ISSUE earlier in the public forum such as this web site or other as it has been the problem since 2008 – till March 2014 ?

    HKC devotees : ” It is very clear from the above statements who is ethical and who is unethical. …………. ”

    What is ethical ? Serving selflessly free from any Profit i.e. personal satisfaction, Adoration and
    Distinction etc. in the service of our Jagat Guru Srila Prabhupada’s mission is considered ethical whereas other motive is considered unethical depending upon the influence of the three modes of material nature at Gross and Subtle sphere.

    HKC devotees : ” Prabhu , at this point I can just remember one quote of Srila Prabhupada “calling a thief a thief is certainly not wrong but calling an honest man a thief is very detrimental to one making progress in spiritual life.”

    So who is calling an HONEST MAN a thief as explained above ? Where is the need to support UNTRUTH ?

    HKC devotees : ” Prabhu, pleases study all the events carefully and give your impartial judgment that will be very pleasing to Srila Prabhupada. Supporting untruth, talking untruth will certainly bear bad reactions in our life and may cause so many offences. ”

    Dear Devotees of Srila Prabhupada by asking my IMPARTIAL JUDGEMENT pleasing to Srila Prabhupada under this very SELF DESTRUCTIVE CONFLICT presented here in this public forum, I beg from both the sides to get together in order to resolve their differences SELFLESSLY WITHOUT HANKERING AND LAMENTATION simply and purely in the service of the mission of our Jagat Gauru Srila Prabhupada.

    Also, I beg from HG DND to withdraw all the USELESS – UNPRODUCTIVE allegations presented with or without relative TRUTH as it seems in the article -1 and 2 without any finger pointing at each other as I have humbly submitted in my comments.

    After all, we are all CONDITIONED souls trying to best serve the mission of our Jagat Guru Srila Prabhupada.

    Selfless serving the Spiritual Mission of the Lord Shri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu free from all material desires is the only way to please our Jagat Guru HDG. Srila Prabhupada.

    OM TAT SAT.

    Hari BOL. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.

    YS……. Amar Puri.

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11. Prahlad Das says:

    11. May 2014 at 5:40 pm

    As well as not allowing any comments on their “Truth Revealed” articles on their ‘ISKCON Times’ and ‘ISKCON Truth’ websites, IB are also deleting all the comments made on their ‘ISKCON Truth’ FB page. Around 20 comments made by various devotees were deleted yesterday. So much for “Truth” (the last leg of Dharma in Kali-yuga).

    http://padaproblems.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/jaipur-struggle-for-truth.html

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12. iskcontruth admin says:

    12. May 2014 at 7:20 am

    Prahlad Das: We are NOT part of ISKCON Bangalore and calling ISKCON Truth website an official website of ISKCON Bangalore is unfortunate. hare krishna

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13. Prahlad Das says:

    12. May 2014 at 6:34 pm

    OK iskcontruth admin, maybe you are an ‘unofficial’ website of IB group. Please tell us why you are not allowing comments on the IB “Truth Revealed” article ‘on your ISKCON Truth’ website? And why you are deleting all the comments on the “Truth Revealed” article on your ‘ISKCON Truth’ FB page?

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14. Amar Puri says:

    13. May 2014 at 9:36 pm

    kṛṣṇa-bahirmukha hañā bhoga vāñchā kare
    nikaṭa-stha māyā tāre jāpaṭiyā dhare
    (Prema-vivarta)

    ” As soon as we forget Kṛṣṇa and we want to do things for our sense gratification, that is māyā.

    And as soon as we give up this process of sense gratification and do everything for Kṛṣṇa, that is liberation.”

    Hari BOL.

    All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.

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15. Hari Das says:

    16. May 2014 at 10:03 am

    The Truth about Akshapatra, Jaipur

    A ‘devotee’ names Madhav Charan Das at Akshayaptra Jaipur/Hare Krishna movement, Jaipur(located at Jagatpura in Jaipur) destroyed all the original and bonafide certificates and documents of a FOLK(Friends of Lord Krishna) boy named Satish Mundra, so that he ‘surrenders’ to Krishna completely by joining as a full time monk in ISKCON Bangalore temple, as he won’t find a job without these documents. Previously, Satish was working at Hyderabad and was asked to come back to Jaipur to work at Akshayaptra as an employee and to submit all his certificates to get a job. ’Devotees’ at Akshayaptra threatened him to keep quiet or face the consequences. They have ruined his career by making it hard for him to get any job anywhere else.

    A second year engineering student named Sarvesh Agarwal was living at FOLK hostel in Jodhpur. He was from a pious business family from Jaipur and was studying in Jodhpur; he was doing book distribution and preaching as well. Akshayaptra devotees started humiliating, harassing and insulting him due to which he committed suicide on 3rd July 2012, a senior devotee from Akshayaptra Jaipur put charges on him of being a ‘homosexual.
    A ‘devotee’ named Rasraj Krishna Das from Akshayapatra Jaipur(he did his computer engineering from a private engineering college in Jaipur and is a native of Bihar) had a relationship with a woman named Mrs. Nagpal who is the wife of Mr. Umesh Nagpal who is an advocate at the Rajasthan high court, they got exposed and Umesh even slapped Rasraj in temple premises, Umesh had to leave his unchaste wife at her father’s home in Ganganagar, Rajasthan after this incidence and Rasraj has been quietly moved to Bangalore temple to enter into ‘grihasta’ ashram. He has also been ‘saved ‘ by his higher authorities from Mr. Nagpal and such that he never contacts his paramour again.Devotees at Akshayaptra are saying that all these charges are fake. Rasraj remains a powerful man at Akshayapatra Jaipur and is a close friend of another Bihari ‘brahmachari’ named AnantaVirya das(Amit is his karmi name, he is an MBA from a college in Jaipur and worked in Gujarat before he ‘joined’.

    A few years ago, a ‘young female’ employee’ working at Akshayaptra Jaipur claimed that she was molested by AnantVirya Das and a manager named Mr. Tiwari.Tiwari was caught by police and beaten up, he spent a few days in jain before being released on bail.AnantVirya das is a smart bihari who hid himself in a bathroom on the top floor of Akshayapatra such that even the police could not find him anywhere, as they searched the whole Akshayaptra campus.

    Only money, nothing else—This organization works on the ‘principle’ of only money nothing else. Dealing of devotees is ‘highly impersonal. Each one of the devotees there has been given a ‘huge target’ just like they give in MNCs and industries.’Brahmacharis’ are nothing more than a ‘source of revenue and income’, who collect money ‘day and night’ approaching everyone(of course the rich are given preference in everything) and hand it over to higher authorities. ’Brahmacharis’ have become mere agents and collectors in place of preachers, they want only rich men to come to their temples. Commercialised, insensitive and money-minded ways of dealings have made Akshayaptra a very dangerous place.

    There was a devotee named Vedvid Govind Das who was a full time devotee at ISKCON Bangalore, his wife started going to Akshayaptra for doing ‘alankar sewa’ for the deities’, she was charged and accused of ‘spying’ and was banned from coming to Akshayaptra forever.
    No preaching at all— there is practically no preaching at Akshayapatra Jaipur. Devotees say that they go out for preaching in their autos but they never ask anyone to chant, never distribute any books or prasad. They show pamphlets and brochures of their programs and bring money.

    Big big temples and third class consciousness—Akshayaptra promised to build a huge temple of Shri Radha Krishna at Jaipur at the time of bhoomipoojan, when even the chief minister of Rajasthan came to visit the site, many crores of rupees were collected by the devotees at Akshayaptra showing the model of a magnificent temple, but they lied and cheated the donors by making a very small and different temple and keeping the rest of ‘laxmi’ in their pockets. The photos along with this article will make things very clear that how they cheated people of Jaipur and donors by projecting a different model and making something completely different(they are using the same technique for Vrindavan Chandrodaya temple in Vrindavan now) .
    The devotees at ISKCON Bangalore and even those who were once even a part of it are arrogant and impersonal in their dealings, they are also very manipulative and shrewd, devotees are often mistreated and they show no love, respect or compassion for the vaishnavas in general. Their dealings have been cut-throat and cold-blooded and an attitude which is offensive.

    Collection of money is deceitful—Akshayaptra has collected many crores of rupees on the name of ISKCON and Srila Prabhupada, though they are not a part of ISKCON both legally and officially. They also have many common donors with ISKCON and other deviant ‘Ritvik’ groups operating in Jaipur who also act independently and all these so called ‘Prabhupadanugas’ are hostile and hateful towards each other. ‘Donation’ has been a cause of conflict and disputes between these groups.

    Though all these so-called ‘Ritviks’ say it openly and boldly that Srila Prabhupada is the only ‘diksha guru’ in ISKCON but they keep themselves in center and are always busy in fund collection, fault finding and bashing each other. This has created a very filthy political scene in the devotee community at Jaipur. A person going to one ‘center’(or person) cannot go to another and is treated like an ‘untouchable’ by another group, all these ‘Ritviks’ make a very slow spiritual progress and devotees are used by the heads of these centers just to fulfill and satisfy their personal ambitions.
    A ‘brahmachari’ named Sarva Lakshan Das at Akshayapatra Jaipur is well known for his hip-thrusting, rock and roll kirtans and dances, ignoring and deleting the instructions of Srila Prabhupada.
    Temple president of Akshayaptra Jaipur/Hare Krishna movement,Jaipur is Ratngada Govind Das, he loves to be called as ‘Bade prabhu’, you will not find it in any ISKCON temple in the world. He is a very rowdy and arrogant person who threatens people by using Mr. Pareek.He used to be a below average commerce student who failed in his CA(Chartered accountant) exams before joining the temple as a ‘brahmachari’.He got involved with a receptionist working at ISKCON Bangalore temple named Gokul, then they got married. Both of them are full of ego and closely monitor and observe, ‘each and everything’ and keep a close track of all happenings and visitors at Akshayapatra, Jaipur premises. You cannot even talk freely, Ratngada has been the temple president for about 10 years now(ever since Akshayapatra came to Jaipur only with their food distribution program and did not disclose their real intentions and plans of making a strong foothold in Jaipur).He has not been removed from his post and no action has been taken against him, he enjoys all support of his superiors. He is a very poor manager, many brahmacharis and grihastas have left who joined as full time devotees being ‘fed up’, abused and harassed by this system.

    There are many young girls who are employees at Akshayapatra, Jaipur.They spend their whole day at Akshayaptra campus, interacting closely with male employees and even devotees. Why women are given jobs at all? Why do they favor empowerment? There are a few other cases where devotees at Akshayaptra got involved with women.
    Akshayapatra works as an industry where the whole focus is only on ‘money’ and devotees are treated like ‘dogs’. The figure of the number of students they feed everyday is also misleading as there are many students who are absent from school every day and are absent but they are also counted and shown in their data. If you give donation to them, you are given a receipt on the name of Akshayaptra first and then the Hare Krishna Movement, Jaipur, this itself shows that funds have been moved and manipulated from one account and trust to another and a fraud on their part. ’Bhakti’ is completely missing, young boys are ‘brainwashed’ and made to ‘join’ anyhow, they collect money ‘day and night’ and leave after few years. Their whole life is so traumatic and suffocating.

    The most amazing thing is that in spite of all this, these ‘Ritviks’ claim that SrilaPrabhupada is the only ‘diksha guru’ in ISKCON and is guiding them through his books(also taking all these karmas on himself).They strongly feel that they are the only true, genuine and bonafide followers of Srila Prabhupadaand the ‘original Hare Krishnas’.

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16. Prahlad Das says:

    16. May 2014 at 2:38 pm

    Hare Krishna. Just see how ALL the ‘ritvik’ Prabhupadanugas are getting defamed because of the deviant activities of ISKCON Bangalore / Akshaya Patra and the insane writings of their supporters & spokesmen like Puranjana! Meanwhile IB/AP leaders remain silent and keep collecting money, like the shrewd businessmen they are. EVERYTHING IB/AP do is only for the purpose of making money. The fact that they do all this in Srila Prabhupada’s name is their worst offence.

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17. Bhakta John (Netherland) says:

    19. May 2014 at 2:17 pm

    Hare Krishna

    @ iskcontruth admin. Please reply the questions of Prahlad Das just below your comment here.

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18. Amar Puri says:

    20. May 2014 at 7:25 pm

    Dear Prahlad Das Prabhu ,

    Hare Krishna. AGTSP.

    Can you please substantiate your claim what you are writing in your comments which read as ;

    ” Hare Krishna. Just see how ALL the ‘ritvik’ Prabhupadanugas are getting defamed because of the deviant activities of ISKCON Bangalore / Akshaya Patra and the insane writings of their supporters & spokesmen like Puranjana! Meanwhile IB/AP leaders remain silent and keep collecting money, like the shrewd businessmen they are. EVERYTHING IB/AP do is only for the purpose of making money. The fact that they do all this in Srila Prabhupada’s name is their worst offence. ”

    If you are unable to provide with the ” proof “, then, please withdraw your criticism mentioned above and refrain from posting such NON-SENSE destructive comments which are useless and very unproductive.

    Hope it meets you well.

    Hari BOL. AGTSP.

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19. Ananny Mouse says:

    21. May 2014 at 12:00 pm

    why would ISKCON Truth publish an article of lies by Tim Lee?

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20. Prahlad Das says:

    21. May 2014 at 1:58 pm

    Hare Krishna Amar prabhu.
    The proof is there. What can anyone do if you refuse to see it?

    Briefly.. IB/AP are treating many of the young devotees in their various centres like un-paid servants, only good for collecting donations – by any means necessary, and if they object they are forced out & demonised. I recently received very worrying reports from young boys from AP Bhilai. (I submitted this report here but the website owners did not publish it.) AP Jaipur are offending and disrupting the services of sincere Prabhupadanugas of HKC Jaipur who have been seeking a peaceful solution for 5 years. IB/AP do nothing to resolve this but instead they continue their attacks. Now they have chosen the renowned pathological liar Puranjana (PADA) as their online spokesman on this issue, and deleted/blocked others from commenting on their so-called “Truth Revealed” articles on their websites & FaceBook pages. This is simply cheating and duplicity.

    IB are producing unauthorised-by-Prabhupada ‘Little Krishna’ cartoons for money-making. They are collecting donations for building opulent temples/theme-park tourist-attractions & guest houses for the purpose of ‘showing the deity’ and money-making. Their mundane welfare work – feeding children food made by salary-paid karmis and machines – to get and keep them in karmi government ‘slaughterhouse schools’ – is totally against Prabhupada’s instructions, as are their rock bands in Bangalore and Jaipur. AP also have some involvement with PATH polio vaccination/immunisation programs which resulted in the paralysis of almost 50,000 children in India last year alone. They honour non-devotees like meat-eating atheist Dalai-Lama in Prabhupada’s temple and allowed him to speak against Krishna’s Varnashram Dharma. Many non-ritvik devotees are aware of these deviations and use them to smear the reputation of all ‘ritviks’ whom they believe are all supporters of IB/AP and their crazy spokesman Puranjana. MPP also appears to be trying to make a compromise (against Prabhupada’s July 9th ‘ritvik’ directive) with ISKCON GBC regarding second initiation. Devotees are still waiting many months for MPP to clarify this statement:

    “I said that I can try to convince everyone in our group on second initiation being given into the ears from persons authorized by GBC if a big change can come for entire ISKCON where 1st initiation is from Srila Prabhupada considering it a big leap to put back spiritually ISKCON to the situation it was pre-1977. I also added that some members among current Bangalore group should also be authorized by GBC for this to do this function of initiation specifically amongst us.” (from Madhu Pandit’s reply to ISKCON EC)

    I am actually shocked that devotees such as yourself (who I presume are familiar with Prabhupaada’s books/letters/recordings) seem to be unable or unwilling to perceive these obvious ‘elephant-in-the-room’ deviations from Prabhupada’s instructions and the non-Vaishnava business activities and behaviour of IB/AP. I am reminded of the story of ‘The Emperor’s New Clothes’. On these blog articles/comments you have simply ignored all the evidence & testimonies of the HKC devotees regarding the attacks of IB/AP, but immediately you started to try to find fault with Dayalu Nitai prabhu. Calling an honest man a thief as it were. You have made no apology for this and now you are accusing me of making “useless, unproductive, nonsense, destructive, critical comments”. Where is the proof for these criticisms you are now making Amar? The truth about IB/AP may be unpalatable but it must be spoken. They call themselves “Srila Prabhupada’s ISKCON” but they do not even care for following his instructions, only for money-making. Jiv Jago. Jaya Prabhupada.

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21. Prahlad Das says:

    21. May 2014 at 2:28 pm

    Sorry, I meant almost 50,000 paralysis cases, not 500,000.

    

    http://nsnbc.me/2013/05/08/bill-gates-polio-vaccine-program-caused-47500-cases-of-paralysis-death/

    http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.akshayapatra.org%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fissue_feb_07.pdf&ei=3Jp8U8XSIO_Q7Aall4D4DQ&usg=AFQjCNEvaIEXShgSxzzNoykN6uKmqfVubg&sig2=AXv-4PbiBzbPE_eX9QXn4w&bvm=bv.67229260,d.ZGU

    “Deworming pills have been distributed as a pilot program in some centers of AP. There is also interest in getting children immunized via the AP platform. Interestingly, some retired physicians of Indian origin in US have shown interest in putting together an Immunization program for the AP catchment kids. We welcome collaboration with individuals and other NGOs to deliver other programs in the established and running AP centers.”

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22. Sudarsana Das Vanacari says:

    22. May 2014 at 5:07 am

    Prahlad’s statement…….. “AP also have some involvement with PATH polio vaccination programs which resulted in the paralysis of almost 50,000 children in India last year alone” (the actual figure is more like 61,000) This should be ringing alarm bells as this is a ‘scandal’ of monumental proportions. These ‘oral’ vaccines are much more dangerous than ‘injections’ which are used in western countries and are used because they are CHEAP (5 times cheaper) and there is NO comeback on the American Multinational Companies that manufacture them. Corruption in India is some of the worst in the World. Remember ‘Bhopal’!

    Bill Gates runs PATH program and also is a huge shareholder of Monsanto (and subsidiary companies). This guy is a multinational, predatory, corporate hypocrite who wears the ‘smiling face of philanthropy’ This is just a mask as he is a ‘salesman’ for US foreign policy who’s aim is to ‘plunder and pillage’ Third World countries such as India, as life is cheap and officials easily corrupted. This will increase under the BJP as they have made strong inroads into India through CIA infiltration of mundane philanthropic enterprises.

    Why doesn’t Madhu Pandit say anything? What has he got to hide?

    Vaisnava Dasanudas

    Sudarsana

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23. marica says:

    22. May 2014 at 2:44 pm

    Dear Sudarsana Das Vanacari,

    Unfortunately in the case of the vaccine of the paralysis is very important the dilution. The doctor and his assistant are responsible for how is this administered to the children. The vaccine must not be concentrated, because this is living ingredient.
    In Europe the doctor and his assistent have to dilute it.

    marica

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24. Amar Puri says:

    22. May 2014 at 6:48 pm

    Dear Prahlad Das Prabhu,

    Hare Krishna. AGTSP.

    Kindly allow me to clarify my position as a sincere and serious follower of the Devotees of HDG. Srila Prabhupada’s VANI – Instructions. I have no any Political interest with any of the Prabhupadanuga’s Establishment or any of the Leaders as such world wide.

    My simple interest is to speak out and stand for the TRUTH in order to protect and promote HDG. Srila Prabhupada’s Instructions and VANI.

    Keeping the above in mind, I humbly brought out and pointed out in the article of Jaipur Devotees – TRUTH my comments which speak volumes in TRUTH by itself when a SANE person reads it carefully without any personal motive.

    I asked in my comments what are the deviations and its PROOF.

    This is HOW and what Prahlad Das Prabhu answers ;

    ” ….. MPP also appears to be trying to make a compromise (against Prabhupada’s July 9th ‘ritvik’ directive) with ISKCON GBC regarding second initiation. ”

    My question is that did MPP compromise July 9th ritvik directive as he writes ?

    If yes, where is the PROOF ? IF NO,then, stop writing such non-sense unproductive comments that which I called for UNCONSTRUCTIVE – SELF DESTRUCTIVE criticism.

    And he further writes to accuse me as such ;

    ” …………. but immediately you started to try to find fault with Dayalu Nitai prabhu. Calling an honest man a thief as it were. ……….. ”

    My question is that does Shriman DND Prabhu as a Leader take the RESPONSIBILITY of OWNING the mistake he committed to print out the UNAUTHORIZED endorsement of MPP – IB as he cited in the article under reference as brought out and pointed out in my comments ?

    If the answer is YES, then, where is the PROOF ? If the answer is NO, then …… ” Calling an honest man a thief as it were. ……….. ” written by Prahlad Das Prabhu is certainly NOT wrong. Isn’t it ?

    Now any SANE personality must question and wonder why Prahlad das Prabhu is accusing Amar Puri to ask for an apology for any CRIME of accusation, Amar Puri never committed ?

    That is why I ask Prahlad das Prabhu to refrain from posting “useless, unproductive, nonsense, destructive, critical comments”.

    Selfless serving the Spiritual Mission of the Lord Shri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu free from all material desires is the only way to please our Jagat Guru HDG. Srila Prabhupada.

    OM TAT SAT.

    Hari BOL. AGTSP.

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25. Prahlad Das says:

    26. May 2014 at 4:56 pm

    Amar Puri says: “I humbly brought out and pointed out in the article of Jaipur Devotees — TRUTH my comments which speak volumes in TRUTH by itself when a SANE person reads it carefully without any personal motive.”

    What does this mean Amar prabhu? Who are you suggesting is insane and personally motivated? I cannot make sense of your comments. My simple intention is also (like yourself) to “stand for the TRUTH in order to protect and promote HDG. Srila Prabhupada’s Instructions and VANI.” So, please can you explain why you say my comments are “useless, unproductive, nonsense, destructive, critical, UNCONSTRUCTIVE — SELF DESTRUCTIVE, etc.”?

    Dayalu Nitai prabhu has already explained about the HKC ‘Festival Of India’ newspaper advert, which included a comment by Madhu Pandit Das, in the opening article. Maybe you should go back and read both of the articles and all of the comments before you make any further comments? Your ‘blind-following’ bias towards IB/AP (conveniently ignoring a plethora of evidence) and nit-picking of HKC is clear for everyone to see. So, how exactly are you “standing for the (un-biased) TRUTH”?

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26. Amar Puri says:

    26. May 2014 at 11:40 pm

    Prahlad Das Prabhu writes ; ” ……….. My simple intention is also (like yourself) to “stand for the TRUTH in order to protect and promote HDG. Srila Prabhupada’s Instructions and VANI. ….. ”

    Very good, Then please do answer the following questions ;

    Where is the need for you to write and make such comments as ; ” So, how exactly are you “standing for the (un-biased) TRUTH”? ”

    Where do you read in my comments towards IB — MMP/AP as BIASED ?

    What kind of a blame game is this when you give remarks such as ; ” Your ‘blind-following’ bias towards IB/AP (conveniently ignoring a plethora of evidence) and nit-picking of HKC is clear for everyone to see. ”

    Are your above mentioned comments as an example, USEFUL, SENSE-FULL , PRODUCTIVE, AND CONSTRUCTIVE ?

    Where is the PROOF as an example in your posted comments duly written by you ?

    Why Shriman DND Prabhu or HKC devotees or any Supporter such as yourgoodself address and answer my questions as asked for ?

    What is the use of such discussion when the Questions are NOT answered based on what is presented in writing to seek for the TRUTH by the writer or his representative ?

    Please make only further comments IF you are able to answer all the questions in my comments I put forth in relation to the Article under discussion.

    Otherwise, I ask you again kindly and humbly Prahald Das Prabhu to refrain from posting “useless, unproductive, nonsense, destructive, critical comments”.

    Thank you for your kind understanding.

    Hari BOL. AGTSP.

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27. HKC devotees says:

    30. May 2014 at 4:07 pm

    Dear HKC Devotees,

    Dear Amar Puri prabhu,
    Please accept our humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
    We could not reply to your comment due to some very pressing services going on here. Since the number of children in our Gurukula and the number of cows in our Goshala have increased substantially in the last few months, we are forced to speed up our construction work in Hare Krishna Village which is 70 Km from Jaipur where our goshala and gurukula will be shifting very soon. Currently the goshala and gurukula is being maintained in the city which is proving to be very costly ,so all the devotees here are on a marathon to create enough facility for them in HKV. Please refer to the below links to see the activities of devotees going on to develop Hare Krishna Village:
    https://www.facebook.com/HareKrishnaVillage
    https://www.facebook.com/bigvc123.jaipur

    Please accept my humble obeisances to all of you. AGTSP.
    Thank you for your kind reply. It seems that you are replying to my comments on behalf of HG. Dayalu Nitai Das Prabhu who is certainly aware of what you are writing in replying to my comments.

    I am Raghav Pandit Das, Secretary of HKC, Jaipur and I am replying not only on behalf of Dayalu Nitai prabhu but on behalf of all the devotees of HKC, Jaipur who have been tolerating the ill treatment of AP, Jaipur since last 5 years. In my replies I have copied some portions from the open letter of Dayalu Nitai prabhu to MPP and CPP which was published on this site, since this letter has been written after lot of deliberation with solid evidences.

    After reading carefully, I find that there are various link missing in HKC devotees’ writing which I am addressing here below for further clarifications ;
    HKC devotees : ” ……….There was no reply to this proposal and instead A.P Jaipur took the stand of calling HKC bogus and telling everyone that I am demanding some post etc. so I was removed from A.P and decided to continue their show separately. ”
    Who ( authoritative personal of AP ) took the stand of calling HKC as bogus ?

    This stand was taken not by one or two devotees but as a policy by Ratnagada Das (President, AP Jaipur), Anantshesh Das (Vice-President, AP Jaipur) and many full time brahmacaris like Madhav Charan Das, Anantvirya Das, Sanat Das etc. etc. If you ask for proof we can reproduce portions of some mails written by Dayalu Nitai prabhu to MPP many years back:
    From : Dharmesh Sharma To : mpd@iskconbangalore.org
    Cc: cpd@iskconbangalore.org, aad@iskconbangalore.org, Nimai Pandit Das, rgovindasa@yahoo.com, anantha_sesha@yahoo.co.in
    Date: 7th May 2010.

    Before getting into the details of what is happening here I will like to humbly submit to you that the purpose of writing this mail is just to prevent creating friction in Srila Prabhupada’s movement. I am sure you will see this mail in that light.

    First of all I would like to state the latest incident which happened few days back here. One boy by the name of Avinash Jangir was staying near Hare Krishna centre in Nirman Nagar with his parents for last 3-4 years. After completing his schooling he joined SKIT (an Engg. College in Sitapura – a place which is 20 kms. from our centre) and was associating with devotees here. Gradually he started coming regularly for the morning sadhana and started getting more and more involved in Srila Prabhupada’s service. He started living in the centre and wanted to pursue BA (in philosophy) instead of BE as it was becoming very difficult for him to cope up with his Engg. Studies. As usual there was lot of opposition from his parents. Finally his father shifted him to a place near his college.
    Since the place where he is currently staying is near Akshaya Patra and he was having lot of difficulty with his sadhana I told him that he should associate with devotees at Akshaya Patra to get spiritual strength. He started visiting Akshaya Patra for the morning program and was also taking prasadam there. When the devotees there realized that he used to earlier visit Hare Krishna Centre and now also goes there sometimes they started saying false things to him about me. Some of the statements made by devotees at Akshaya Patra, Jaipur are as follows –
    “Do not go there, they are not following Srila Prabhupada. Dayalu Nitai criticizes MPP & CPP . Do not associate with him , he is preaching independently …Srila Prabhupada has not recommended this type of preaching …he is after name fame etc. etc.”

    Like that there are many many other incidents which we have been repeatedly raising with MPP since last five years. Please mention your e-mail id and I will send you all the material which you can study and it will help you to judge the situation impartially. Prabhu where are you physically located ? If you could come to Jaipur and stay with us for sometime it will help you to understand the situation more clearly.

    Who fabricated this lie that HG DND Prabhu was removed from AP when he never had any link with AP ? Is there any such proof to establish the TRUTH ?

    There are not one but hundreds of students who were preached by Dayalu Nitai prabhu but after visiting AP Jaipur most of them stopped coming to HKC and started showing very inimical behavior towards Dayalu Nitai prabhu. Some of them who realized their mistake later on told us that how they were misguided by AP devotees who were twisting the facts to prove that Dayalu Nitai prabhu asked for a post etc. Dayalu Nitai prabhu has explained about this twisting of his mail to MPP written many years back in his open letter in para 11, 12, 13, please refer to that.

    I am also attaching a link to an audio file which is a conversation between Madhav Charan Das (Youth preacher of AP, Jaipur) and a new student who is asking him about HKC and Dayalu Nitai prabhu’s preaching programs, in reply Madhav Charan Das is openly telling him not to associate with devotees of HKC.When asked by that student Abhimanyu as to why he should not associate with HKC, Madhav Charan Das is explaining since HKC is not under their GBC they are unauthorized and bogus. Madhav Charan Das is also telling in this audio file the false story of Dayalu Nitai prabhu asking for post etc.
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/rlwvl7mtlkmov8m/1%20madhavcharan%20to%20abhimanyu.amr
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/ghzmi5h4zn2vrux/1%20madhavcharan%20to%20abhimanyu_low.mp3

    Can you imagine Madhav Charan Das is not stopping here but telling that student to propagate this to other students also !!! This conversation happened before the incident of printing MPP’s comment by HKC.

    HKC devotees : ” ……… appreciating the preaching work of HKC. ”
    Knowing very well that HKC devotees have ISSUES and concerns with HG MMP and AP. , then why would some body with the right mind use such appreciation or endorsement some sort IF the PERMISSION is not given in writing to advertise it ? That is THE PROBLEM itself. That is why it appears as CRIMINAL which created a MESS and further MISUNDERSTANDING in relation with HG MMP and AP. Isn’t it ?
    Did HKC devotees have any sort of ISSUES or concerns with various establishments who appreciated the HKC work ? It does not look like from the Truth presented in the article. Therefore, HKC devotees are/were FREE from any allegation from those establishments. Is this not a FACT ?

    Please refer to http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=41392#comment-26560 para no. 1, 2, 3 Where this point has been explained in detail by Dayalu Nitai prabhu. If you will note MPP has written that we can publish his comment as ISKCON leader but not as Chairman Akshay Patra but since the comment had already gone by the time his mail was received we could not correct this small “mistake”.

    By the way this negative propaganda by AP Jaipur devotees and MPP’s , CPP’s silence over it has nothing to do with this incident which happened few months back.

    And as far as the question that why MPP would appreciate HKC has been already answered in our reply to your previous comment, we are reproducing that reply again for your reference:

    “In fact this incident of printing MPP’s favorable comment has solved this misunderstanding on our part that MPP/CPP will judge this situation impartially without the feelings of “me and mine” and rectify this problem. After this incident MPP started using words like “full scale war” and instead of finding a peaceful solution , started instigating these A.P, Jaipur devotees who increased their attacks after the approval of their leader. Dayalu Nitai Prabhu was telling MPP that why is he making a big issue out of this incident and not referring to the main issue wherein his A.P, Jaipur devotees are trying to crush Srila Prabhupada’s movement going on here. But there was no response, infact he wrote to Dayalu Prabhu not to write any more mails to him. Now it is very clear to us that MPP, CPP never wanted to stop this and they were being nice nice to us while on the back this bad propaganda was continuing. We were very naïve and took too much time to realize that actually their silence meant approval.”

    Since there was no mistake from HKC devotees MPP/CPP could not come out openly against us while the other devotees at A.P, Jaipur were continuing to blaspheme us. MPP took this small ‘mistake’ of not asking his approval to print his comment as an excuse to declare “full scale war” against HKC. If MPP does not want the others to know that he has appreciated our work then why did he write these lines of appreciation??? Why this duplicity??? A devotee should be straight forward in his dealings.

    Further HKC devotees write in replying to my question ;
    Amar Puri Prabhu :
    despite the fact that you are having success in your own endeavour to establish your preaching program in the service of Srila Prabhupada at WHAT COST when you at least come to think about it in the mode of Satva Guna ?
    HKC devotees :
    After reading the above carefully please tell us what is the definition of Sattva Guna and in which Guna MPP is operating?
    SATTVA Guna represents NO Hankering and NO Lamentation for a personal satisfaction.
    Are HG MPP, AP and HG DND, HKC devotees freely operating from personal satisfaction without hankering and lamentation ?

    We are all trying to serve Srila Prabhupada selflessly with all our anarthas as far as possible, I do not know how to prove this, best would be if you could come and stay with us and guide us to become more surrendered to Srila Prabhupada. If we can benefit by your association we will be very happy.

    The Choice is Individual to choose from the above either to accept it or reject it.
    Should both the sides reach to an amicable resolution FREELY OPERATING FROM PERSONAL SATISFACTION WITHOUT HANKERING AND LAMENTATION simply and purely in the service of the mission of our Jagat Gauru Srila Prabhupada, there would have no PROBLEM at all.
    Is it not TRUE ?

    NO, IT’S NOT TRUE. There have been many instances where some devotees are trying to serve selflessly but out of envy the others are putting obstacles in their path. Though we are not comparing ourselves with Srila Prabhupada in front of whom we are insignificant ants but we can certainly cite his example wherein his godbrothers created so much trouble for him , does it mean that this problem happened because both sides had false motives. One place Srila Prabhupada writes “All along my godbrothers gave me only depression, repression, compression—but I continued strong in my duty.”

    HKC devotees : ” …….. raising this issue in public.This was around March 2014 (2 months back).”
    Why did HKC devotees not raise this conflicting ISSUE earlier in the public forum such as this web site or other as it has been the problem since 2008 — till March 2014 ?

    We have replied to this point to you in our earlier comment. I am again reproducing that for your information:

    1) First we tolerated and ignored all the injustices being done by A.P Jaipur thinking that it will stop in due course and continued our positive preaching.This was approx.. from 2008-09.
    2) When things were not stopping but instead increasing we first approached Ratnagada (T.P, A.P, Jaipur). This was around 2010-11
    3) When Ratnagada told us that you do your preaching and we do our preaching but the bad propaganda still did not stop then we approached senior devotees like MPP, CPP and other IB GBC members. This was around 2011-12
    4) When there were only assurances but no action from them for a long time then we started writing stronger mails to them. This was around 2012-13
    5) When MPP closed all doors for talks and declared “full scale war” on the plea of this trivial issue of printing his simple 2 line appreciation sent by him to Dayalu Nitai Prabhu, we wrote one final mail to CPP to give us some concrete date for meeting otherwise we will have to come in public. This was around 2014.
    6)Even after this when there was no response then we decided to appeal to other Prabhupadanuga devotees to intervene and also started raising this issue in public.This was around March 2014 (2 months back).
    Please send us if there could have been a better approach by HKC devotees which would please Srila Prabhupada more.

    HKC devotees : ” It is very clear from the above statements who is ethical and who is unethical. …………. ”
    What is ethical ? Serving selflessly free from any Profit i.e. personal satisfaction, Adoration and
    Distinction etc. in the service of our Jagat Guru Srila Prabhupada’s mission is considered ethical whereas other motive is considered unethical depending upon the influence of the three modes of material nature at Gross and Subtle sphere.
    HKC devotees : ” Prabhu , at this point I can just remember one quote of Srila Prabhupada “calling a thief a thief is certainly not wrong but calling an honest man a thief is very detrimental to one making progress in spiritual life.”
    So who is calling an HONEST MAN a thief as explained above ? Where is the need to support UNTRUTH ?
    HKC devotees : ” Prabhu, pleases study all the events carefully and give your impartial judgment that will be very pleasing to Srila Prabhupada. Supporting untruth, talking untruth will certainly bear bad reactions in our life and may cause so many offences. ”
    Dear Devotees of Srila Prabhupada by asking my IMPARTIAL JUDGEMENT pleasing to Srila Prabhupada under this very SELF DESTRUCTIVE CONFLICT presented here in this public forum, I beg from both the sides to get together in order to resolve their differences SELFLESSLY WITHOUT HANKERING AND LAMENTATION simply and purely in the service of the mission of our Jagat Gauru Srila Prabhupada.

    Prabhu, we also agree with you that we should move towards a solution and we think the best thing would be “both the sides to get together in order to resolve their differences” as suggested by you. This is what we have been trying since so many years but the A.P devotees are avoiding this Ishtagoshti, Can you help us to organize an Isthagoshti ?

    Also, I beg from HG DND to withdraw all the USELESS — UNPRODUCTIVE allegations presented with or without relative TRUTH as it seems in the article -1 and 2 without any finger pointing at each other as I have humbly submitted in my comments.

    I beg to differ from you at this point. All the points raised in the open letter are simply truth with evidences and logic. Everyone has a right to protect himself. As Srila Prabupada says “”Prabhupada: So what they are going to answer to this? Will you accept everything? Ask them. So when the (indistinct), but exposes you, what answer you have got? Why you are silent? Silent means acceptance. Maunam (indistinct). If I say, “You are rascal, you are thief,” and if you don’t reply that means you accept it. Maunam (indistinct). If you do not protest, and if you do not say anything, so such a big criticism from (indistinct) and they are silent. Why do they not go to the court? Bluff (indistinct). That means he accepts.” >>> Ref. VedaBase => Morning Walk — December 28, 1976, Bombay”

    After exhausting all other peaceful means we are coming in public forum which is proving to be very USEFUL and PRODUCTIVE. Because after reading these articles many devotees are coming to know about the TRUTH which is helping them to decide which association to seek. After these articles the negative propaganda of AP Jaipur has reduced (at least for the time being) since many students and donors, equipped with truth, are asking various questions to AP Jaipur devotees which they are not able to answer.

    After all, we are all CONDITIONED souls trying to best serve the mission of our Jagat Guru Srila Prabhupada.
    Selfless serving the Spiritual Mission of the Lord Shri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu free from all material desires is the only way to please our Jagat Guru HDG. Srila Prabhupada.

    We have tried our best to present the facts as it is. Since all of us have lots of services to serve Srila Prabhupada we cannot do more than this to answer your queries. If you still have doubts and desire to be an impartial judge then we can only invite you to stay with us and get first hand experience and observation and we can also send lot of more material for you to study in order to understand the situation here.

    OM TAT SAT.
    Hari BOL. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.

    In conclusion we would request you to help us to move towards a solution which is organizing an Ishtagoshti where all these issues can be discussed and resolved in the larger interest of expanding Srila Prabhupada’s mission. One way would be that you can appeal to MPP to hold an istagosthi with HKC devotees. Would you do that ?

    YS……. Amar Puri.

    Your servants,
    HKC devotees

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28. annay mouse says:

    30. May 2014 at 10:24 pm

    Even Prabhupada said things should be settled in court, he never said to ignore the courts decisions or that they were bogus and just took bribes:

    PRABHUPADA: If I say, “You are rascal, you are thief,” and if you don’t reply that means you accept it. Maunam (indistinct). If you do not protest, and if you do not say anything, so such a big criticism from (indistinct) and they are silent. Why do they not go to the court? Bluff (indistinct). That means he accepts.” >>> Ref. VedaBase => Morning Walk — December 28, 1976, Bombay”

    So PADA’s idea that to accept the court decision is to side with the GBC, is foolishness not accepted by Prabhupada. Prabhupad never said to ignore the laws and the courts. In Fact, PADA and MAHESH accept courts when it is in their interest (turley) and then reject the courts when it is their interest (MPD). So they have set themselves up as a higher authority that the courts that even Prabhupada accepted.

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29. annay mouse says:

    30. May 2014 at 10:46 pm

    it is clear to everyone reading this webpage that there is a bias against Jaipur which was started by PADA (tim lee) picked up Amar Puri and others who refuse to see anythign but the lies of PADA and continue to sling mudd on the Jaipur HKC devotees. Gaurida Pandit performed rtvik intiations for Jaipur, and he wouldn’t have done so if he thought they were agents of the GBC. and why would the agents of the GBC want GDP to perform rtvik initaions? they outlawed rtviks and rtviks initiations, so there is no possible way they are working together. they do not cite the GBC, HauriSauri or Bhakta Das, these people have nothing to do with the issue, which is still, “WHY IS MAdhu Pandit harrasing the Jaipur devotees?” Mahesh is coreect when he says they are fighting for the small group of HKC donors. sounds a lot like how the GBC used to come in and take over temples and preaching zones. history repeats itself.

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30. abhaya carana seva das says:

    31. May 2014 at 7:29 am

    pamho agtACBSP

    Is the fighting still going on? Come on is not worthy to keep going in that wrong direction given up, there is already so much rubbish still to finish to be cleaned in our hearts, and spiritual life is sharpened like a blade of a razor, don’t create more rubbish through quarrels and hypocrisy it makes the search of the real reflection and designation more difficult to find out in our troublesome journey to reach the paravyoma sky beyond all these temporary calamities fake reflections and designations in mrtyu-loka the planet of the gundas living dead.

    We are different from the karmi daily life program but if we start to act like them it means we been catched by the evil influences of kali, and SRILA PRABHUPADA used to say that this movement can be destroyed only from within. it means that the so called present leaders are demons if they try to do that by causing mental distress in the spiritual life of the devotees because the sastra said that in kali yuga big demons will take birth in brahmana family.

    Actually everything is in the opposite side of dharma in this age and sometimes even our austerities can come against us by becoming a demon whose main business is to harrass saintly people. To be caught by the divine influences of SRI SRI GURU GAURANGA means to act always by looking in for perfection to fly high in the spiritual sky, in this way all the other insignificants matters can’t catch us by driving us outside the right track by forgetting the real meaning of this human form of life, which can end at any moment. Therefore the wise man doesn’t waste time by fighting through false designations but act always to achieve perfection because life is already hard for everyone, therefore it is better to not make it more hard by causing more problems to the own mind and to the collective mind to not say about the universal mind, where is the acintya abheda bheda tattva?

    You are fighting with the energies of the most powerful living being that’s SRI KRSNA BHAGAVAT, better you give up the fight by leaving the devotees in peace otherwise the battle gets worse until all the insignificants fighters will be destroyed by the own evil activities.

    agtSP ys haribol

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31. Sudarsana Das Vanacari says:

    31. May 2014 at 8:13 am

    I must say that the ‘Photo Heading’ of Madhu Pandit Prabhu on his mobile phone, makes me feel a little ‘uncomfortable’ considering he doesn’t seem to be talking to anybody! He doesn’t seem to have any imput on this website, considering the many complaints made about him and the suspicion created by such a negative High Court decision. Is Madhu Pandit Prabhu the servant of the devotees? or does he consider the devotees his servants, and all answerable to him? As I do not know any of the parties involved it does seem (from a neutral perspective) that just because GBC are trying to “take over” Bangalore Temple, that does not mean that Madhu Pandit Prabhu’s motives are ‘untainted by his own personal ambition’.

    I am also ‘uncomfortable’ with the fact that in spite of the suspicion which seems to surround Madhu Pandit Prabhu, some devotees seem to have an almost ‘fanatical faith’ in his ability to execute ‘projects’ which in themselves indicate a ‘compromise and departure’ from Srila Prabhupada’s instructions.

    Daso Smi

    Sudarsana

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32. Amar Puri says:

    31. May 2014 at 10:13 am

    Dear HKC Devotees,

    PAMHO. AGTSP.

    Your sincere and serious dedications and commitments to study progress of developmental projects in rendering services for the mission of our Jagat Guru Srila Prabhupada are priceless, full of worth very much appreciating the glory of all inspired HKC Devotees rendering selfless services.

    To solve this simple and yet very complex issue as it seems, my humbly suggestion is that Shriman DND as a leader must take the responsibility of owning the mistake as pointed out in your comments below ;

    ” Please refer to http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=41392#comment-26560 para no. 1, 2, 3 Where this point has been explained in detail by Dayalu Nitai prabhu. If you will note MPP has written that we can publish his comment as ISKCON leader but not as Chairman Akshay Patra but since the comment had already gone by the time his mail was received we could not correct this small “mistake”.

    The most sensible way to correct that small ” mistake ” and yet a complex issue as it seems, is to write and accept very humbly and submit it for the kind consideration and attention of Shriman MMP and associates AP etc. both on the private level as well as on the public forum since this has become and brought to the attention of public forum such as this web site and take it from there.

    As you wrote ‘ ” In conclusion we would request you to help us to move towards a solution which is organizing an Ishtagoshti where all these issues can be discussed and resolved in the larger interest of expanding Srila Prabhupada’s mission. One way would be that you can appeal to MPP to hold an istagosthi with HKC devotees. Would you do that ?

    As soon as the above suggestion in correcting that small ” mistake ” is humbly accepted by Shriman DND as a leader along with the HKC devotees and become published in the Public Forum such as this, then, all of US, the followers of Srila Prabhupada’s VANI including this insignificant – most fallen soul myself as well shall beg to ask in order to resolve all the differences between both the groups who are operating in the service for the mission of our Jagat Guru Srila Prabhupada.

    Hope the above humble suggestion meets satisfactory to all the parties involved.

    Hari BOL.

    Your most fallen servant,

    Amar Puri.

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33. Bhakta John (Netherland) says:

    31. May 2014 at 11:07 am

    Hari Bol prabhus

    @ Amar puri prabhu
    Again and again you are raising the same issue of “printing MPP’s comment” , which is infact clarified by HKC devotees earlier also.

    Please prabhu see the main issue , this printing issue is just 4 months back but the misconduct of IB/AP is from last 4 years.

    HKC Devotees wrote :
    “By the way this negative propaganda by AP Jaipur devotees and MPP’s , CPP’s silence over it has nothing to do with this incident which happened few months back.

    And as far as the question that why MPP would appreciate HKC has been already answered in our reply to your previous comment, we are reproducing that reply again for your reference:

    “In fact this incident of printing MPP’s favorable comment has solved this misunderstanding on our part that MPP/CPP will judge this situation impartially without the feelings of “me and mine” and rectify this problem. After this incident MPP started using words like “full scale war” and instead of finding a peaceful solution , started instigating these A.P, Jaipur devotees who increased their attacks after the approval of their leader. Dayalu Nitai Prabhu was telling MPP that why is he making a big issue out of this incident and not referring to the main issue wherein his A.P, Jaipur devotees are trying to crush Srila Prabhupada’s movement going on here. But there was no response, infact he wrote to Dayalu Prabhu not to write any more mails to him. Now it is very clear to us that MPP, CPP never wanted to stop this and they were being nice nice to us while on the back this bad propaganda was continuing. We were very naïve and took too much time to realize that actually their silence meant approval.”

    Since there was no mistake from HKC devotees MPP/CPP could not come out openly against us while the other devotees at A.P, Jaipur were continuing to blaspheme us. MPP took this small ‘mistake’ of not asking his approval to print his comment as an excuse to declare “full scale war” against HKC. If MPP does not want the others to know that he has appreciated our work then why did he write these lines of appreciation??? Why this duplicity??? A devotee should be straight forward in his dealings.”

    Now every thing is cleared by HKC devotees in this open forum. But still i did not find any reply (other than high court comment which is infact not so relevant) from MPP/IB.

    HKC devotees are asking you to give your e-mail ,so give them and get all the stuff.

    This is my e-mail id “jpena9710@gmail.com”

    I request HKC devotees to send me the whole stuff.

    your servant
    Bhakta John

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34. Mahesh Raja says:

    31. May 2014 at 11:44 am

    annay mouse says:
    30. May 2014 at 10:24 pm
    Even Prabhupada said things should be settled in court, he never said to ignore the courts decisions or that they were bogus and just took bribes:
    PRABHUPADA: If I say, “You are rascal, you are thief,” and if you don’t reply that means you accept it. Maunam (indistinct). If you do not protest, and if you do not say anything, so such a big criticism from (indistinct) and they are silent. Why do they not go to the court? Bluff (indistinct). That means he accepts.” >>> Ref. VedaBase => Morning Walk — December 28, 1976, Bombay”
    So PADA’s idea that to accept the court decision is to side with the GBC, is foolishness not accepted by Prabhupada. Prabhupad never said to ignore the laws and the courts. In Fact, PADA and MAHESH accept courts when it is in their interest (turley) and then reject the courts when it is their interest (MPD). So they have set themselves up as a higher authority that the courts that even Prabhupada accepted.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Mahesh: You are just being HYPOCRITICAL. I will PROVE it by REFUTING your WHOLE argument.
    The FACT is Madhu Pandit HAS taken to the matter to SUPREME COURT. The decision in the SUPREME COURT is FINAL. So he HAS ACCEPTED the Court. However, YOU want him to accept the High Court where I believe the Judge was BRIBED by the Bombay ISKCON. Why do YOU not accept THE SUPREME COURT where Madhu Pandit has decided to to go? Just shows how much of a HYPOCRITE you are. .

    It is also NOT a fact that in ALL circumstances Srila Prabhupada advises to accept Court:

    “A devotee should have intelligence to know who is deviating. Surrender by your intelligence but don’t surrender your intelligence.” (SP to Bali Mardana, 1974)

    Madhya 1.220 The Later Pastimes of Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu
    This behavior is indicative of real Vaisnavas. When they saw that Rupa and Sanatana were fortunate enough to receive the mercy of the Lord, they were so pleased that they all congratulated the two brothers. A jealous person in the dress of a Vaisnava is not at all happy to see the success of another Vaisnava in receiving the Lord’s mercy. Unfortunately in this Age of Kali there are many mundane persons in the dress of Vaisnavas, and Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura has described them as disciples of Kali. He says, kali-cela. He indicates that there is another Vaisnava, a pseudoVaisnava with tilaka on his nose and kanthi beads around his neck. Such a pseudoVaisnava associates with money and women and is jealous of successful Vaisnavas. Although passing for a Vaisnava, his only business is earning money in the dress of a Vaisnava. Bhaktivinoda Thakura therefore says that such a pseudoVaisnava is not a Vaisnava at all but a disciple of Kali-yuga. A DISCIPLE OF KALI CANNOT BECOME AN ACARYA BY THE DECISION OF SOME HIGH COURT. MUNDANE VOTES HAVE NO JURISDICTION TO ELECT A VAISNAVA ACARYA. A VAISNAVA ACARYA IS SELF-EFFULGENT, AND THERE IS NO NEED FOR ANY COURT JUDGMENT. A FALSE ACARYA MAY TRY TO OVERRIDE A VAISNAVA BY A HIGH-COURT DECISION, BUT BHAKTIVINODA THAKURA SAYS THAT HE IS NOTHING BUT A DISCIPLE OF KALI-YUGA.

    JSD 6.4 Ancient Prophecies Fulfilled
    ANOTHER SYMPTOM OF KALI-YUGA IS AVRTTYA NYAYA-DAURBALYAM PANDITYE CAPALAM VACAH: “THOSE WITHOUT MONEY WILL BE UNABLE TO GET JUSTICE, AND ANYONE WHO CAN CLEVERLY JUGGLE WORDS WILL BE CONSIDERED A SCHOLAR.” (SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM 12.2.4) IF YOU HAVE NO MONEY, THEN YOU WILL NEVER GET JUSTICE IN COURT. THIS IS KALI-YUGA. NOWADAYS EVEN THE HIGH-COURT JUDGES ARE TAKING BRIBES TO GIVE YOU A FAVORABLE JUDGMENT. BUT IF YOU HAVE NO MONEY, THEN DON’T GO TO COURT. And panditye capalam vacah. If a man can talk expertly–it doesn’t matter what he says, and nobody has to understand it–then he is a pandita. He is a learned scholar. [Imitating gibberish:] “Aban gulakslena bugavad tugalad kulela gundulas, by the latricism of wife… ” Like this, if you go on speaking, no one will understand you. [Laughter.] Yet people will say, “Ah, see how learned he is.” [Laughter.] This is actually happening. There are so many rascals writing books, but if you ask one of them to explain what he has understood, he’ll say, “Oh, it is inexplicable.” These things are going on.

    SC 14 Betrayed by Leaders
    The Visnudutas chastised the Yamadutas for violating the principles of justice. SUCH CORRUPTION OF THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM IS VERY PROMINENT IN KALI-YUGA. THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM IS MEANT TO PROVIDE FOR EXECUTION OF JUSTICE, YET FALSE WITNESSES AND BRIBERY MAKE IT DIFFICULT. WITH MONEY, ALMOST ANYONE CAN GET A FAVORABLE JUDGMENT IN COURT. IF THE JUSTICE SYSTEM IS CORRUPT, LIFE BECOMES EXTREMELY TROUBLESOME.

    Note: that fact is ALL parties are fighting for DONORS in a SMALL area.
    annay mouse wants Madhu Pandit to give the Bangalore Temple to the ISKCON Bombay. He has no brains to understand that this will NOT help the Dayalu Nitai Party EITHER because the ISKCON Gundas have got a history of attacking Prabhupadanugas and they will NOT stop at ISKCON Bangalore: THEY WILL WANT DAYALU NITAYA’S PLACE!!! NEXT. Look at the history and WAKE-UP:

    1) Calcutta Temple Aridharana’s Temple was attacked by the Mayapura Anti Ritvik goons and taken over.
    2) The Goons also attacked Ahmedabad Yasomatinandan Temple President and beat him up so now he does not say “Ritvik” now. He has taken low profile.
    3) Urdhvaga Prabhu was attacked by the Anti Ritvik goons – they shot at him in Vrindavan because is is PRABHUPADANUGA.
    4) Sulocana was killed by the Anti Ritvik goons.

    So these are just a few that I have mentioned.

    Best thing is for Prabhupadanugas to COOPERATE AS PER SRILA PRABHUPADA’S WISHES:

    76-01-05. Letter: Satsvarupa
    EVERYTHING SHOULD BE DONE CO-OPERATIVELY. “Our” and “your’s” are material conceptions and have no place in our Krishna Consciousness movement. If the members of our movement are unable to co-operate it will be very difficult to spread the mission of Lord Caitanya.

    72-11-18. Letter: Madhumangala
    Regarding general state of affairs at Amsterdam temple, I can understand there is some disturbance among you, but that is not to be taken very seriously. Real business is preaching work, and if there is full attention on this matter only, all other businesses will be automatically successful. Fighting amongst ourselves is not at all good, but if our preaching work is neglected, or if we fall down in following the regulative principles such as rising before four, chanting 16 rounds, like that, if these things are not strictly observed then maya will enter and spoil everything. So my best advice to you is to strictly observe these things yourself and be the example so that all others may follow. WE SHOULD NOT CRITICIZE EACH OTHER, AS VAISNAVAS, BECAUSE THERE IS FAULT IN EVERYONE AND WE MAY BE OURSELVES SUBJECT TO CRITICISM. BEST THING IS TO BE ABOVE SUSPICION OURSELVES, THEN IF WE SEE DISCREPANCIES AND MAKE SUGGESTION THE OTHERS WILL AUTOMATICALLY RESPECT AND TAKE ACTION TO RECTIFY THE MATTERS. THAT IS COOPERATION. AND WE MUST EXIST ON SUCH COOPERATION, OTHERWISE THE WHOLE THING IS DOOMED IF WE SIMPLY GO ON FIGHTING OVER SOME SMALL THING. So try to organize things and preach together in this spirit, and that will please me very, very much.

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35. HKC devotees says:

    31. May 2014 at 3:40 pm

    Hare Krishna Amar Puri prabhu
    Please accept our humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada

    It is very surprising that you are not saying anything about the mountain
    like offences of AP devotees and focusing your whole attention on the
    “mistake” of Dayalu Nitai prabhu in printing Madhu Pandit prabhu’s favorable comment to
    him.

    Madhu Pandit prabhu wrote two line lines of appreciation to Dayalu Nitai prabhu and he
    printed it along with favorable comments of other devotees without taking
    his consent. First of all why did Madhu Pandit prabhu write this favorable comment if he
    did not want others to know? What harm it can do to him? Still for your
    satisfaction we would like to inform you that Dayalu Nitai prabhu has
    already accepted this “mistake” in his open letter to Madhu pandit prabhu which is also
    published in the public forum, please refer to the following lines of
    Dayalu Nitai prabhu from this open letter:

    *“After this I again sent a mail to MPP in Nov. 2013 telling him to hold a
    meeting so that the bad propaganda of AP Jaipur devotees can be stopped.
    This mail is attached with this letter as “DND mail to MPD (Nov. 2013)”.
    There was no reply. I also became busy in other preaching activities and
    incidents of AP Jaipur devotees doing false propaganda against us did not
    stop.*

    *In Jan. 2014 HKC launched one event “Festival of India -2014” in
    collaboration with the most popular newspaper of Rajsthan “Dainik Bhaskar”.
    By the grace of Krishna we got advt. worth 50 lakhs at almost no cost from
    Dainik Bhaskar. The entire media was supporting us. In one of the full page
    advt. I thought of including MPP‟s following comments along with comments
    of other senior devotees and college heads to counteract the bad propaganda
    of AP Jaipur devotees – “carry on as u are doing. You are doing well. It is
    a unique project”.*

    *My only mistake was that I did not feel the need to take MPP‟s consent to
    include his comments in the paper and I was also very busy organizing this
    festival and MPP had not been replying to my mails.”*

    Your servants

    HKC devotees

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36. webmaster says:

    1. June 2014 at 6:01 pm

    What had to be said and could be explained, was already posted in both article parts + comments. Further comments should kindly relate to resolve the mentioned conflicts constructively. Thank you for your understanding.

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37. Pancali Devi Dasi says:

    22. August 2014 at 3:01 am

    Hare Krsna Prabhus. Please accept my humble obeisances. All glory to Srila Prabhupada. I knew of some difficulties between both groups however did not look into all this too much. I am researching all these things including the deviations of IB and what I have read so far is nothing other than horrible. I am sorry for all that Jaipur Hare Krsna Community has gone through and I pray the IB rectify this nonsense carry on asap. Other wise it does prove that they have no care for the other Prabhupadanuga centers around the world. I believe that Jaipur have given IB plenty of time to respond and rectify and this struggle for truth has proven they have no interest to make peace. All the best. Ys Pancali dd

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