https://www.facebook.com/iskconspiracy/videos/884147964974337/?fref=nf
ISKCONspiracy — New Site (video) with Poison Report of Srila Prabhupada’s physical body:
Hare Krsna –please take the time and watch this short news report from India and other places about the facts concerning the physical poisoning of Srila Prabhupada’s body. This is issue is FAR from over, ……despite the whitewash given by the GBC. See and hear the poison report of Srila Prabhupada’s physical body. Hare Krsna Damaghosa das
PS-and they dont even get into the Prabhupada hair samples which reveal arsenic and cadmium levels 300 times the level of that which can kill a human being !!
Kaviraja: speaks in Hindi…..
Tamala Krsna: Put poison in different containers. That’s all right.
Audio Clip in MP3 Format – [(((audio)))]
This is not a whisper – these words are clearly audible, spoken by Tamal Krsna. It is interesting to note that even though the transcription of this section of the audio tape was transcribed into the BBT Folio, this sentence was omitted. Why was this sentence omitted? How will BBT / Bhaktivedanta Archives officials explain this mystery?
Please also see:
http://www.iskcon-truth.com/poison/prabhupada-poisoned-overview.html
ADDENDUM
Put poison in the milk
All Glories to Srila Prabhupada! Please accept my humble obeisances.
In the audio below you can hear Tamal saying: “Put poison in the milk“.
Hare Krsna! ys mahesh
Download MP3
Put poison in the milk
- have a good ear phones
- Used Splayer. Download free from internet
- when you go to 00.05 PRESS with mouse cursor on the GREEN line FEW times until it comes to 00.06 This so YOU can HEAR the NAME it will give the NAME “Aksayapychari” CLEARLY it will continue “Aksayapybhicari poison is put on milk” Sentence ends at 00.09
- Press on 00.40 Green line FEW times until you come to 00.47
“Tamal saying Put Poison in milk” then reply Uuh! (seems like Bhavananda deep voice Uuh!) - Tamal gloating says “Poison is going down” 00.48 then giggles from someone up to 00.59
[Poison Whispers and MP3 Audio Files]
[Poison CD with audio]
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[Poison audio files]
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_yi9fnJ-Jg
http://www.iskcon-truth.com/poison/prabhupada-poisoned-overview.html
“Tamal Krsna, Bhakticaru, Jayapataka and Bhavananda were obviously dominating over the conversations at the time. Srila Prabhupada was 80 years of age, his body was skin and bones, he could hardly speak. On the other hand Tamal Krsna, Jayapataka, Bhavananda, Jayadvaita, Bhakti Charu, Giriraj were about 30 years of age. To solicit such a response from their own spiritual master to not torture him and ‘put to death’ is nerve racking to say the least. Their behavior is typical of people with a psychopathic nature and demoniac consciousness.”
Note: My own understanding of the above is given the MODERN TECHNOLOGY you CAN ACTUALLY HEAR them TALK/whisper about GIVING POISON to Srila Prabhupada and KNOW WHO they are from THE VOICES. In one case Tamal Krsna’s VOICE is asking” Poison is put in the Milk?” the sound Uhh a reply and clearing the throat I make out is Bhavananda. Everyone has got a PARTICULAR voice and when you hear the Srila Prabhupada mp3’s, tapes, cds you CAN identify.
I got one clip download from VNN long time back – in that you can hear INDIAN voice is asking in a submissive way “Aksyapyabhicari, Poison is put in the milk? There was ONLY one Indian with that sound and speech like that IN THAT PROXIMITY – Bhakticaru. Now, WHO is Aksayapyabhicari? Interesting thing is a person by the name of Aksayananda WAS around in Vrndavana in 1977. Was Aksayananda ALSO called Aksyapyabhicari by Bhakticaru? That is the ONLY name that is SIMILAR.
Letter to: Aksayananda
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Bombay
3 May, 1977
Vrndavana
My dear Aksayananda Maharaja,
Please accept my blessings,
Just now I have sent you a telegram reading as follows:
“CANNOT ATTEND BY MEDICAL ORDER PROGRAM MAY GO ON BY VRNDAVAN PARTY LETTER FOLLOWS ALSO SENDING MY ZONAL SECRETARY
BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI”
My health being not very good, the doctors have advised against making the long train journey as well as the vigorous preaching involved. Under the circumstances I was forced to cancel my going. However you may go as planned along with a few other devotees and hold the pandal program. Kindly let me know what was the response from the villagers during the program. Mr. Dwivedi is very eager for our cooperation, and if there is good response, then I think we can develop a very nice program there. So please give me your report in detail after the function is completed.
Hoping this meet you well.
Your ever well-wisher,
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami
Srila Prabhupada poisoned:
The following sites has whispers of the poison givers:
To hear the whole CD of the Nov 10 1977 Conversations from beginning to end, please click here or
http://www.mediafire.com/?ppvh77orok1r7vh
And for Individual highlighted louder version of the whole CD , please go to
http://www.culturedbooks.com/audio/audio-address.html
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Srila Prabhupada Given Poison:
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=42549#comment-29598
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Aksayapyabhicari
Should read:- Visha pya bichari
Visha= poison…. pya=drank….bichari= poor fellow.
Here’s the YouTube link for you to embed
https://youtu.be/G_yi9fnJ-Jg
Note: these Anti Ritvik money screwing slavery making goons are demoniac: This is WHY they gave poison to Srila Prabhupada:
KB 1 Advent of Lord Krsna
This action of Kamsa is not very difficult to understand. There are many instances in the history of the world of persons in the royal order who have killed father, brother, or a whole family and friends for the satisfaction of their ambitions. THERE IS NOTHING ASTONISHING ABOUT THIS, FOR THE DEMONIAC CAN KILL ANYONE FOR THEIR NEFARIOUS AMBITIONS.
SB 4.28.48 P Puranjana Becomes a Woman in the Next Life
Whenever an acarya comes, following the superior orders of the Supreme Personality of Godhead or His representative, he establishes the principles of religion, as enunciated in Bhagavad-gita. Religion means abiding by the orders of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Religious principles begin from the time one surrenders to the Supreme Personality of Godhead. It is the acarya’s duty to spread a bona fide religious system and induce everyone to bow down before the Supreme Lord. One executes the religious principles by rendering devotional service, specifically the nine items like hearing, chanting and remembering. UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN THE ACARYA DISAPPEARS, ROGUES AND NONDEVOTEES TAKE ADVANTAGE AND IMMEDIATELY BEGIN TO INTRODUCE UNAUTHORIZED PRINCIPLES IN THE NAME OF SO-CALLED SVAMIS, YOGIS, PHILANTHROPISTS, WELFARE WORKERS AND SO ON. Actually, human life is meant for executing the orders of the Supreme Lord, and this is stated in Bhagavad-gita (9.34):
man-mana bhava mad-bhakto
mad-yaji mam namaskuru
mam evaisyasi yuktvaivam
atmanam mat-parayanah
“Engage your mind always in thinking of Me and become My devotee. Offer obeisances and worship Me. Being completely absorbed in Me, surely you will come to Me.”
The main business of human society is to think of the Supreme Personality of Godhead at all times, to become His devotees, to worship the Supreme Lord and to bow down before Him. The acarya, the authorized representative of the Supreme Lord, establishes these principles, but when he disappears, things once again become disordered. The perfect disciples of the acarya try to relieve the situation by sincerely following the instructions of the spiritual master. At the present moment practically the entire world is afraid of rogues and nondevotees; therefore this Krsna consciousness movement is started to save the world from irreligious principles. Everyone should cooperate with this movement in order to bring about actual peace and happiness in the world.
Iso 12
The Lord states that as soon as one reaches Him by devotional service–which is the one and only way to approach the Personality of Godhead–one attains complete freedom from the bondage of birth and death. In other words, the path of salvation from the material clutches fully depends on the principles of knowledge and detachment gained from serving the Lord. THE PSEUDO RELIGIONISTS HAVE NEITHER KNOWLEDGE NOR DETACHMENT FROM MATERIAL AFFAIRS, FOR MOST OF THEM WANT TO LIVE IN THE GOLDEN SHACKLES OF MATERIAL BONDAGE UNDER THE SHADOW OF PHILANTHROPIC ACTIVITIES DISGUISED AS RELIGIOUS PRINCIPLES. BY A FALSE DISPLAY OF RELIGIOUS SENTIMENTS, THEY PRESENT A SHOW OF DEVOTIONAL SERVICE WHILE INDULGING IN ALL SORTS OF IMMORAL ACTIVITIES. IN THIS WAY THEY PASS AS SPIRITUAL MASTERS AND DEVOTEES OF GOD. Such violators of religious principles have no respect for the authoritative acaryas, the holy teachers in the strict disciplic succession. THEY IGNORE THE VEDIC INJUNCTION ACARYOPASANA–“ONE MUST WORSHIP THE ACARYA”–AND KRSNA’S STATEMENT IN THE BHAGAVAD-GITA (4.2) EVAM PARAMPARA-PRAPTAM, “THIS SUPREME SCIENCE OF GOD IS RECEIVED THROUGH THE DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION.” INSTEAD, TO MISLEAD THE PEOPLE IN GENERAL THEY THEMSELVES BECOME SO-CALLED ACARYAS, BUT THEY DO NOT EVEN FOLLOW THE PRINCIPLES OF THE ACARYAS.
These rogues are the most dangerous elements in human society. Because there is no religious government, they escape punishment by the law of the state. They cannot, however, escape the law of the Supreme, who has clearly declared in the Bhagavad-gita that envious demons in the garb of religious propagandists shall be thrown into the darkest regions of hell (Bg. 16.19-20). SRI ISOPANISAD CONFIRMS THAT THESE PSEUDO RELIGIONISTS ARE HEADING TOWARD THE MOST OBNOXIOUS PLACE IN THE UNIVERSE AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THEIR SPIRITUAL MASTER BUSINESS, WHICH THEY CONDUCT SIMPLY FOR SENSE GRATIFICATION.
Madhya 1.218 The Later Pastimes of Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu
Srila Narottama dasa Thakura says, chadiya vaisnava seva nistara payeche keba: unless one serves a Vaisnava, he cannot be delivered. The spiritual master initiates the disciple to deliver him, and if the disciple executes the order of the spiritual master and does not offend other Vaisnavas, his path is clear. Consequently Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu requested all the Vaisnavas present to show mercy toward the two brothers, Rupa and Sanatana, who had just been initiated by the Lord. When a Vaisnava sees that another Vaisnava is a recipient of the Lord’s mercy, he becomes very happy. Vaisnavas are not envious. If a Vaisnava, by the mercy of the Lord, is empowered by Him to distribute the Lord’s holy name all over the world, other Vaisnavas become very joyful–that is, if they are truly Vaisnavas. One who is envious of the success of a Vaisnava is certainly not a Vaisnava himself, but an ordinary mundane man. Envy and jealousy are manifested by mundane people, not by Vaisnavas. Why should a Vaisnava be envious of another Vaisnava who is successful in spreading the holy name of the Lord? An actual Vaisnava is very pleased to accept another Vaisnava who is bestowing the Lord’s mercy. A MUNDANE PERSON IN THE DRESS OF A VAISNAVA SHOULD NOT BE RESPECTED BUT REJECTED. THIS IS ENJOINED IN THE SASTRA (UPEKSA). THE WORD UPEKSA MEANS NEGLECT. ONE SHOULD NEGLECT AN ENVIOUS PERSON. A preacher’s duty is to love the Supreme Personality of Godhead, make friendships with Vaisnavas, show mercy to the innocent and reject or neglect those who are envious or jealous. There are many jealous people in the dress of Vaisnavas in this Krsna consciousness movement, and they should be completely neglected. THERE IS NO NEED TO SERVE A JEALOUS PERSON WHO IS IN THE DRESS OF A VAISNAVA. WHEN NAROTTAMA DASA THAKURA SAYS CHADIYA VAISNAVA SEVA NISTARA PAYECHE KEBA, HE IS INDICATING AN ACTUAL VAISNAVA, NOT AN ENVIOUS OR JEALOUS PERSON IN THE DRESS OF A VAISNAVA.
Bg 4.42 P Transcendental Knowledge
A bona fide spiritual master is in the disciplic succession from time eternal, and he does not deviate at all from the instructions of the Supreme Lord as they were imparted millions of years ago to the sun-god, from whom the instructions of Bhagavad-gita have come down to the earthly kingdom. One should, therefore, follow the path of Bhagavad-gita as it is expressed in the Gita itself AND BEWARE OF SELF-INTERESTED PEOPLE AFTER PERSONAL AGGRANDIZEMENT WHO DEVIATE OTHERS FROM THE ACTUAL PATH. The Lord is definitely the supreme person, and His activities are transcendental. One who understands this is a liberated person from the very beginning of his study of the Gita.
Bg 16.4 P The Divine And Demoniac Natures
In this verse, the royal road to hell is described. The DEMONIAC WANT TO MAKE A SHOW OF RELIGION AND ADVANCEMENT IN SPIRITUAL SCIENCE, ALTHOUGH THEY DO NOT FOLLOW THE PRINCIPLES. THEY ARE ALWAYS ARROGANT or proud in possessing some type of education or so much wealth. THEY DESIRE TO BE WORSHIPED BY OTHERS, AND DEMAND RESPECTABILITY, ALTHOUGH THEY DO NOT COMMAND RESPECT. Over trifles they become very angry and speak harshly, not gently. They do not know what should be done and what should not be done. THEY DO EVERYTHING WHIMSICALLY, ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN DESIRE, AND THEY DO NOT RECOGNIZE ANY AUTHORITY.
760628bj.nv Conversations
Pusta Krsna: Some of them will say some things that Krsna says, but they’ll take from other places also. What is the position of such persons?
Prabhupada: He’s most dangerous. HE’S MOST DANGEROUS. HE IS OPPORTUNIST. HE’S FINDING OUT CUSTOMER, something here… According to the customer he is giving something, as the customers will be pleased. So he is not guru. He’s a servant. He wants to serve the so-called disciples so that he may be satisfied and pay him something. He’s servant. He’s not guru. Guru is the master. You cannot disobey guru. But if you become a servant, you want to please the disciple by flattering him to get his money, then you are not guru, you are servant. Just like a servant pleases the master. He’s not guru. He’s servant. So our position should be servant, yes, but servant of the Supreme. So guru means heavy. You cannot utilize him for satisfying your whims. That is not guru.
KB 1 Advent of Lord Krsna
This action of Kamsa is not very difficult to understand. There are many instances in the history of the world of persons in the royal order who have killed father, brother, or a whole family and friends for the satisfaction of their ambitions. THERE IS NOTHING ASTONISHING ABOUT THIS, FOR THE DEMONIAC CAN KILL ANYONE FOR THEIR NEFARIOUS AMBITIONS.
There is no doubt that The Lord revealed to me Tamal Krishna’s destination by His own arrangement that he (TK) was heading for the dark regions of purgatory. When he died in that car crash in 2002 I was visited by his ghost which was descending a ladder atop a platform of a ships foremast (possibly the Jaladuta). This was a very familiar picture for me as I had worked for ten years aboard various cargo ships in the 70’s many very similar to the Jaladuta (though most of these type of ships ‘with derricks’ were on there way out and replaced with ships cranes or the much larger bulk carriers).
Why would I be visited by Tamal Krishna’s ghost unless Kalasamvara and Tamal Krishna were discussing my departure from ISKCON not long before on that fatal car ride. Perhaps Kalasamvara recalls this, although the shock of the accident may have erased it from his memory after all he was also injured and his wife did not survive the accident also. Then of course there is also the possibility that he remembers………..which raises the question would he admit to it if he did remember? He is also ”in denial” and an apologist for the many transgressions of the GBC criminals such as Ramai and Prabhavishnu.
Why would I have a vision of TKG descending a (mast) ladder his face resigned, defeated, haunted and dark AND ON THE DAY OF HIS DEATH? I am not a ‘psychic’ person by any means. I have however had several experiences with ghosts most of which when I was very sceptical of such phenomena and could not distinguish these from dreams. One incident really convinced me and this was when the company flew me over to Melbourne to ‘sign on’ a ship (in the early 70’s) I arrived on board late at night, asked the crew which was my cabin and said I am going to ‘turn in’ and would see them in the morning.
I was sleeping and having ‘dreams’ visions of very sinister ,dark sky, foreboding dark clouds, lightning and particularly windmills with torn, raggedy sails (like the ones you see in Holland!) Then I felt hands around my throat and someone trying to choke the life out of me, at which point I recall trying to reach the bunk light but beying ‘paralyzed’ and unable to move my arms. I eventually woke up and even though it was a cold night I was completely drenched in sweat, like coming out of a fever.
When I went to the crews mess for morning breakfast, I inquired about ”who was in the cabin before me”? to which came the reply “Oh yeh! the Dutchman!……he dropped dead out on the deck a few days ago! This really ‘freaked me out’ as I recalled the ‘windmills’ in the previous nights encounter with what I was now SURE was a ghost of someone who was very attached to his abode (he had been in that cabin for around 12 or so years) and probably resented me taking over his spot.
So as far as Tamal Krishna is concerned there is no doubt in my mind that It was his ghost descending that ladder but his demeanor was in contrast, quite different, not threatening but resigned and defeated knowing that he was to be punished and now helpless, condemned!
Unlike a tape this cannot be ‘proven’ by me in the same sort of way, but even though such tapes exist, relating to the poison issue and spoken by His Divine Grace himself still those who are in denial of the truth do not accept because they do not follow Dharma. This truth can NEVER BE REVEALED to rascals and fools who disobey The Acharya. These realizations only manifest through the potency of The Lord with those souls who adhere to the instructions of Srila Prabhupada. As he has said many times “Everything is revealed in my books!” Those who are responsible for poisoning Srila Prabhupada are destined for the darkest regions of HELL! of this there can be no doubt, despite them making a ‘show’ of spiritual life and trying to fool others at the time of their death they will have to resign themselves to their miserable fate.
I am sure there are devotees that have experienced the power of The Lord and His empowered representative Srila Prabhupada. I am nothing special just a conditioned soul, defective in many ways but I am certain that The Supreme Lord reveals these things in many different ways to those who try to develop their love for Sri Krishna. Ultimately EVERYTHING HAPPENS DUE TO THE ARRANGEMENT OF THE SUPREME LORD SRI KRISHNA AND AS SRILA PRABHUPADA HAS SAID, BY FOLLOWING SINCERELY THE VANI OF THE ACHARYA……………….”ALL IS REVEALED!”
Vaisnava Dasanudas
Sudarsana
Thank you for sharing some of your history, Sudarsana Prabhu. Very interesting to read. You’re so fortunate to have escaped from that nightmare, by Krsna’s grace and Prabhupada’s mercy.
Tamal was undoubtedly a disaster for Srila Prabhupada’s movement. But just see how unbelievably kind, compassionate and tolerant Prabhupada was to have engaged the lowest, meanest and most hard-hearted of persons in Krsna’s service – even to the point of calling them “Maharaj”! But Prabhupada was under no illusion as to what he was dealing with:
Srila Prabhupada (to tamal): “I could understand you had no family love, anything.” (tkg’s diary, p. 75).
Patita Pavana Srila Prabhupada ki jai!
Note: Tamal and others who gave poison to Srila Prabhupada were DEMONIAC but Srila Prabhupada being a MAHA-BHAGAVATA does NOT make dinstinction. This is COMPASSION. To bring such wretches to Krsna Consciousness–even at RISK to their lives FULLY depending on Krsna. “The mahā-bhāgavata, therefore, does not make any distinction, particularly between a devotee and nondevotee.”
Prabhupada > Books > Srimad-Bhagavatam > Canto 1:”Creation” > SB 1.18 > SB 1.18.16
But the mahā-bhāgavata, or the first-class devotee, sees everything in relation with the Lord and the Lord present in everyone’s relation. The mahā-bhāgavata, therefore, does not make any distinction, particularly between a devotee and nondevotee. Mahārāja Parīkṣit was such a mahā-bhāgavata devotee because he was initiated by a mahā-bhāgavata devotee, Śukadeva Gosvāmī. He was equally kind, even to the personality of Kali, and what to speak of others.
Haribol! LW prabhu.
Yes, it raises many emotions when such an intolerable deed has been committed on the person of our beloved Srila Prabhupada. Persons in FISKCON still hold Tamal up on some sort of high, official position! Just see how rascals and fools like to ”alter history” to try to make it suit their delusional lust for greed and power (like when they gave Henry Kissinger the Nobel Peace Prize! What a joke!) This is proof that FISKCON “leaders” have NO realization whatsoever as this can ONLY manifest by following the only authorized Diksha Guru (by his own order) and present Acharya AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.
When the ”bogus guru” Bhavananda was having his “Vyasa Puja” book printed in the early 80s some of the devotees we saying to me “have you written your homage, yet?, have you written your “REALIZATIONS” of his position as “spiritual master”?, to which I replied ” no, I don’t have any realizations of that!” This really made them feel very superior to me and condescending also, puffing themselves up and trying to belittle me and laughing!. Then not long after Bhavananda was exposed as a child abuser, pedophile and pretender, I said to some of these guys ”What about your REALIZATIONS about Bhavananda beying a “pure devotee” and “spiritual master?” to which they became ‘red faced’ and embarrassed!
Which is just another example that…..YOU CANNOT REALIZE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT TRUE!
In spite of making something “official” by “vox populi” (popular opinion). This is not ”REALIZATION” but ”EXPECTATION” of fealty and submission based on a lie. ON AN ILLUSION! an ILLUSION ONLY!
Realization only comes from adherence to the Vani of His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada our only true Diksha Guru and Uttama Adhikari Acharya of ISKCON.
You humble servant
Sudarsana
Sudarsana Prabhu writes: “Persons in FISKCON still hold Tamal up on some sort of high, official position!”
He even has a “samadhi” in Mayapur. What an offence. This does not bode well for the holy dhama.
Why are they still worshiping Tamal? Probably because he is the one responsible for starting a new “lineage” in ISKCON, so they feel indebted to him. After all, he made them all rich; and they have a great retirement package with free servants, accomodations, prasadam and worship. (Not too shabby.)
Sudarsana Prabhu further writes: “In spite of making something ‘official’ by ‘vox populi’ (popular opinion). This is not ‘REALIZATION’ but ‘EXPECTATION’ of fealty and submission based on a lie. ON AN ILLUSION! an ILLUSION ONLY!”
You’re absolutely right. When Tamal’s body was killed, many GBC members rushed to the hospital to view his crumpled body. You’d think they’d realize that something was terribly wrong and that maybe they shouldn’t be following and worshiping Tamal. But no, they carried on with their folly. As you say, NO REALIZATION!
Anyone just has to go on YouTube and listen to Tamal’s unmistakable voice stating, “Put the poison in different containers….” recorded in Prabhupada’s room in November of 1977. And what kind of person dares to say threateningly to Krishna’s pure devotee, “Now you have to choose which suicide?” Does that sound like a nice guy to you?
Tamal was such a nasty and mean-spirited man with no humility or social grace. He was a bully, and he even bullied Srila Prabhupad around right through Prabhupada’s last days. And yet they still honor Tamal? Do they have no brains — or hearts?
What an unfortunate situation. What if Tamal and the others were actually truly devoted and loving disciples of Srila Prabhupada? This movement could have taken off beyond all imagination and the whole world and world situation would have benefited immensely. But instead – thanks to Tamal and his greedy cohorts – Kali-yuga marches on unabated to the great detriment of all souls.
LW :Tamal was such a nasty and mean-spirited man with no humility or social grace.
Mahesh: Tamal was a CUNNING DEMON but Srila Prabhupada outsmarted him to REVEAL to us that he is being given poison:
Note: Srila Prabhupada VERY INTELLIGENTLY gives us the HINT of MARICA In Ramayana. Marica was in a awkward position. If he went back to the demon Ravana he would be killed. But if he went to Rama he would be killed. So in either case Marica would be killed BUT in the case of killing by Rama he would attain Vaikuntha. So in Srila Prabhupada’s case he is giving a VERY strong HINT that under his condition EITHER way he go. But he wanted the Parikrama choice NOT the choice where they IMPRISONED, TORTURED and POISONED him there:
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Jagadīśa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, can you tell us why you want to go on the parikrama?
Bhakti-caru: (Bengali) [break]
Prabhupāda: …good paddy.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This seems like suicide, Śrīla Prabhupāda, this program. It seems to some of us like it’s suicidal.
Prabhupāda: And this is also suicidal.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Hm. Prabhupāda said, “And this is also suicide.” Now you have to choose which suicide.
Prabhupāda: The Rāvaṇa will kill and Rāma will kill. Better to be killed by Rāma. Eh? That Mārīca—if he does not go to mislead Sītā, he’ll be killed by Rāvaṇa; and if he goes to be killed by Rāma, then it is better.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: WHO is this Prabhupāda’s talking about?
Devotees: Mārīca.
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Note:That is my ONLY request DON’T TORTURE ME AND PUT TO DEATH
Conversations : 1977 Conversations : November, 1977 : Room Conversation — November 3, 1977, Vrndavana : 771103rc.vrn :
Prabhupāda: That is my only request, that at the last stage don’t torture me and put to death. So I am not eating anything, and if we chant, by batches chant, I’ll hear.
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Note: here is where Srila Prabhupada VERY CLEVERLY sent Tamal Krsna OUT OF THE ROOM for UNCUT fruit and THIS is WHERE the HINDI conversation on POISON starts. WHEN Tamal Krsna RETURNS he is VERY anxious to KNOW if Srila Prabhupada DISCLOSED they were giving him POISON hence,
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: WHAT DID Prabhupāda SAY?
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Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I could come later on if you think it’s better.
Prabhupāda: No. [break] (Hindi) Tamāla Kṛṣṇa?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Give facility for him, ten rupees.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This gentleman?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Ten rupees.
Prabhupāda: And some fruits.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Uncut.
Prabhupāda: Uncut, yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay.
Indian man: (Hindi)
Kavirāja: (Hindi)
Prabhupāda: (Hindi)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I’ll give him the fruits now, Śrīla Prabhupāda? I have some fruits. I can give him now?
Prabhupāda: Hm. (Hindi)
Indian man: (Hindi)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: WHAT DID Prabhupāda SAY?
Tamal Krishna was a ‘Jeckle and Hyde’ sort of character who could be charismatic and philosophical on the one hand and then on the other he would explode into fits of extreme rage. I saw him go-off many times at people where he would literally become very agitated and psychotic so I was always very wary of him. All of this was of course a theatrical performance not unlike Narayana Swami, always keen to delve into the realms of Sahajiya moods and ”rasa” all the while beying totally consumed with hatred and envy of Srila Prabhupada void of any genuine devotion and purity.
The only difference I think is that Narayana Swami was much better at concealing his own envy of Srila Prabhupada but even the most gifted actor cannot ‘remain in character’ all the time.
The best way to gain control of people is to constantly tell them that “we don’t want to control anyone”, this of course was Narayana Swami’s constant mantra, just like the Multinational Corporations and the International Banking System tries to control, plunder and pillage the world tricking it’s foolish population into thinking that they can ”change” things at the next ”election” and that “they are in control”!
All these characters seem like A-Listers to those who have been unfortunate enough to be taken-in by them, (that would also have to include me, at one time!) but as one progresses in realization due only to to merciful Vani of His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada (sole Diksha Guru and present Acharya of Sri Brahma Madhva-Gaudiya Sampradaya) and the previous Acharyas, one can very quickly come to the knowledge that they are just ”B” (or even”C”) grade actors! To those who sincerely follow Srila Prabhupada’s books and try to understand his unique position as sole Diksha Guru of ISKCON (by his own order!) much unnecessary suffering, anxiety and disappointment can be avoided.
When I lived in Christchurch Temple I made a Chakra (brass) to go atop the building and an Ananta Sesha diety (gold plated silver and rubies) to be buried at the corner of the building. The Gaura Nitai dieties were “installed” by the boy-buggerer Bhavananda. The temple “authorities” didn’t like the fact that I was exposing Ramai and Prabhavisnu in a child abuse cover-up scandal so they made it difficult for me. I even appealed to Tamal Krishna and Suhotra (who was GBC chairman). In hind-site this was like appealing to the Mafia! (this was in the late 90s) When I think about it now I think Wow! what a naive, dumb-arse I was then! Practically everyone was against me so I came back to Australia.
We all know what happened to Prabhavishnu, Suhotra and Tamal and the Christchurch Temple was completely destroyed in the earthquake (including the dieties) by The Supreme Lord and now is just a vacant lot! Do not underestimate the unlimited power of The Supreme Lord!
“For want of me the Worlds course will not fail. When all it’s work is done, the lie shall rot! The truth is great and shall prevail, where none cares whether it prevails or not! (anonymous)
Daso Smi
Sudarsana
Srila Prabhupada stated that one bad disciple can ruin the entire institution.
Any guess who that turned out to be?
Sudarsana Das Vanacari: When I lived in Christchurch Temple I made a Chakra (brass) to go atop the building and an Ananta Sesha diety (gold plated silver and rubies) to be buried at the corner of the building. The Gaura Nitai dieties were “installed” by the boy-buggerer Bhavananda.
Mahesh: does anyone know what happened to the ORIGINAL deities in Mayapur that Srila Prabhupada is supposed to have PERSONALLY installed there. Were they thrown out?
Note: “the brass Dieties from Gorakhpur will be installed in Mayapur.”
71-04-24. Letter: Jayapataka
I am very glad that things are going on so nicely there. In the meantime I have received one letter from L.A. that they have not received any document for the brass Deities dispatched there. Two pairs of Deities were to be dispatched to L.A. and Boston out of the three sets given by Dalmia. One is there already and the other two were to go to Boston and L.A. I have received news from Boston that they have received one set but L.A. complains that they have not received. What happened? When some men go there to Calcutta from here, they will take one big pair of marble Deities for installation there; the brass Dieties from Gorakhpur will be installed in Mayapur.
70-08-17. Letter: Jayapataka
Regarding Deities, we have three pairs of Deities lying with Scindia Steam Navigation. I am sending herewith the copy of the letter addressed to Mr. Trivedi today. With this copy of the letter both you and Acyutananda can see Mr. Trivedi and on the strength of this letter you take delivery of the three pairs of Murtis. We shall install one in Mayapur, one in Calcutta and one in Gorakhpur.
all the conversations about being poisoned are becoming more and more important .it is not difficult to explain how devotees cannot become gurus even though the statement is that the authorization of the Acharya is necessary .at least over last 25 years there is not overwhelming success everywhere.Now this new report can divide those who cannot tolerate the .words of our Acharya who is asking for some consideration”please do not torture me and cause my death”When the statement to avoid hearing the direct statements of Prabhupada on poisoning is given then it is known how one is affected with Mayavadi ideas …and great attachment to position The Mayavadi thinks that I want to hear rasa lila and not the fighting activities..And now in 2015 it can be seen how disastrous the false guru problem .has become. It causes a stain in the heart that takes long to repair even though hearing with reason and logic.
Those who hear that impersonal Brahman is superior to Lord Krsna cannot give up the idea so similarly those who hear that unauthorized devotees are offensive cannot give up worship especially when there is a relationship ..of disciple and false guru…Lord Caitanya is showing us how beautiful His plan will be and that we should do our part and speak.