Book Changes: Devotee asked to stop his vyasa puja offering at ISKCON Mayapur

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1. Amar Puri says:

   12. September 2018 at 12:07 am

   Our Jagat Guru Srila Prabhupada knew during His manifested Lila that there are / were people in the dress of a devotees , and warned us about a “Sinister Movement” within our society. Now we see the evidence of their presence.

   All we can do is to simply push on Srila Prabhupada’s Mission by exposing the TRUTH and propagating Srila Prabhupada’s VANI by all the means available at our disposal individually and collectively.

   Thanks for sharing the TRUTH as displayed in the Video, Prabhu.

   Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada and His Sincere Followers / Devotees.

   OM TAT SAT.

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2. Sudarsana Das Vanacari says:

   12. September 2018 at 8:42 am

   Yes! Amar Puri Prabhu, what you are saying is true. Demons hate to hear the bona-fide Acharya being glorified. They ”complain” and squirm like snakes at the sound of sincere vaisnavas who repeat the instructions (verbatim) of the only authorized and sole Diksa Guru of ISKCON, His Divine Grace A C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada (by his own written order) as we are all meant do do, without adding or ”changing or subtracting anything!”

   Jitavrata Prabhu was simply repeating the instruction of His Divine Grace in a humble mood, this is not any ”personal agenda”, this is the business of all sincere vaisnavas!…….The agenda of offenders like Naresvara (and other assorted aparadhis, and silent, wall-flowers) is the complete opposite: to create obstruction and offense. As was revealed some time ago, ”The Black Panther” (Naresvara) likes to foster, encourage and protect serious child sex offenders (Australia) and other virulent filth apart from his other criminal activities of altering Srila Prabhupada’s books!

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3. Amar Puri says:

   12. September 2018 at 9:20 pm

   ADHARMA AND KALI’S CHELA !

   The following is complied from our Jagat Guru His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada’s VANI .

   “Bruta dharmasya nas tattvam yac ca adharmasya laksanam:

   “And how you distinguish from adharma, nonreligious thing?”

   Knowledge means you should know both things, not one side. You must know what is religious
   system and what is not religious system. Simply one side is not full
   knowledge. Upayam ca cintayet prajna, apayam ca cintayet. Just like if
   you want to do some business, you have calculated that “I shall invest
   so much money, and I shall get so much profit. So let us do this
   business. It is very nice.” But sastra says, “No, you have simply
   calculated the profit, and you also calculate no profit, not one-sided.”
   Similarly, to know dharma, you must know adharma also, the opposite side.”
   [Srila Prabhupada Lecture on Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.37, San Francisco,
   July 19, 1975]

   “Another son of Lord Brahmā was Irreligion, whose wife’s name was
   Falsity. From their combination were born two demons named Dambha, or
   Bluffing, and Māyā, or Cheating. These two demons were taken by a demon
   named Nirṛti, who had no children.”

   Purport:

   “It is understood herein that Adharma,Irreligion, was also a son of
   Brahmā, and he married his sister Mṛṣā. This is the beginning of sex
   life between brother and sister. This unnatural combination of sex life
   can be possible in human society only where there is Adharma, or
   Irreligion. It is understood that in the beginning of creation Brahmā
   created not only saintly sons like Sanaka, Sanātana and Nārada but also
   demonic offspring like Nirṛti, Adharma, Dambha and Falsity. Everything
   was created by Brahmā in the beginning. Regarding Nārada, it is
   understood that because his previous life was very pious and his
   association very good, he was born as Nārada. Others were also born in
   their own capacities, according to their backgrounds. The law of karma
   continues birth after birth, and when there is a new creation, the same
   karma comes back with the living entities. They are born in different
   capacities according to karma even though their father is originally
   Brahmā, who is the exalted qualitative incarnation of the Supreme
   Personality of Godhead.( SB 4.8.2 )

   Maitreya told Vidura: O great soul, from Dambha and Māyā were born Greed
   and Nikṛti, or Cunning. From their combination came children named
   Krodha (Anger) and Hiṁsā (Envy), and from their combination were born
   Kali (Strife and lie in person) and his sister Durukti (Harsh Speech). ( SB 4.8.3)

   O greatest of all good men, by the combination of Kali and Harsh Speech
   were born children named Mṛtyu (Death) and Bhīti (Fear). From
   the´combination of Mṛtyu and Bhīti came children named Yātanā (Excessive
   Pain) and Niraya (Hell). ( SB 4.8.4)

   “My dear Vidura, I have summarily explained the causes of devastation.
   One who hears this description three times attains piety and washes the
   sinful contamination from his soul.”

   Purport:

   The creation takes place on the basis of goodness, but devastation takes
   place because of irreligion. That is the way of material creation and
   devastation. Here it is stated that the cause of devastation is Adharma,
   or Irreligion. The descendants of Irreligion and Falsity, born one after
   another, are Bluffing, Cheating, Greed, Cunning, Anger, Envy, Quarrel,
   Harsh Speech, Death, Fear, Severe Pain and Hell. All these descendants
   are described as signs of devastation. If a person is pious and hears
   about these causes of devastation, he will feel hatred for all these,
   and that will cause his advancement in a life of piety. Piety refers to
   the process of cleansing the heart. As recommended by Lord Caitanya, one
   has to cleanse the dust from the mirror of the mind, and then
   advancement on the path of liberation begins. Here also the same process
   is recommended. Malam means: “contamination.” We should learn to despise all the causes of
   devastation, beginning from irreligion and cheating, and then we shall
   be able to make advancement in a life of piety.

   The possibility of our attaining Kṛṣṇa consciousness will be easier, and we
   shall not be subjected to repeated devastation. The present life is
   repeated birth and death, but if we seek the path of liberation, we may
   be saved from repeated suffering .(SB 4.8.5)

   “You try to trace out the history of the world, you’ll find always
   persons who are for Krsna or God, they have been persecuted. Lord Jesus
   Christ was crucified, Haridasa Thakura was caned in twenty-two market
   places, Prahlada Maharaja was tortured by his father. So there may be
   such things. Of course, Krsna will protect us. So don’t be afraid. Don’t
   be afraid if somebody tortures us, somebody teases us. We must go on
   with Krsna consciousness without any hesitation, and Krsna will give us
   protect.” [Srila Prabhupada from Srimad-Bhagavatam Lecture 7.9.8 Seattle, October
   21, 1968]

   Prabhupada: This is our position. Gradually they will show Hare Krsna
   movement. In India also, although India’s… They will want to crush
   down this movement. So this will be up to Him. Krsna or Krsna’s
   movement, the same thing. And Krsna was attempted to be killed by Kamsa
   class of men and his company, the demons. So it will be there; it is
   already there. Don’t be disappointed, because that is the meaning that
   it is successful. Krsna’s favor is there, because Krsna and Krsna’s
   movement is not different, nondiff…, identical. So as Krsna was
   attempted to be killed, many, many years before He appeared… At eighth
   child, if the mother produces child yearly, still ten years, eight years
   before His birth, the mother was to be attempted to be killed. So there
   may be attempt like that. And Lord Jesus Christ was killed.( by
   power-jews) So they may kill me also. [Room Conversation May 3, 1976, Honolulu]

   Srila Prabhupada: That same thing …that someone has poisoned me.
   (Room Conversation November 10, 1977, Vrndavana)

   Prabhupada: That is my only request, that at the last stage don’t
   torture me and put to death. [S.P. Room Conversation November 3, 1977, Vrndavana, India]

   dvau bhuta-sargau loke ‘smin
   daiva asura eva ca
   daivo vistarasah prokta
   asuram partha me srnu
   [Bg. 16.6]

   There are two classes of men throughout the whole universe. One class is
   called daiva and the other class is called asura. Daiva asura eva ca.
   Daivo vistarasah proktah. So far the devas are concerned, Krsna has
   explained in various ways in the last chapters, ahimsa, ksanti, arjavam,
   how to practice this things. So visnu-bhakto bhaved devah asuras
   tad-viparyayah. These two classes, how they are ascertained? One who is
   a devotee of the Supreme Lord Visnu, they are called deva, or demigods,
   and persons who know Visnu or may not know — on the whole, they are not
   devotees of Visnu — even they are devotee of other demigods, they are
   called asura. Just like Ravana. Ravana, he was a great devotee of Lord
   Siva, but he is described as asura, raksasa. Similarly, Hiranyakasipu
   was a great devotee of Lord Brahma; still, he is accepted as raksasa. So
   unless one is Vaisnava or devotee of the Lord Visnu, he is asura or
   raksasa. This is the instruction of the sastra.

   Prabhupada: Ah. So this is our one of the items, to vanquish all these
   rascals, so-called swamis. They say that “Why you criticize others
   also?” Because we have to vanquish them. Now these people cannot rise.
   When there is sunrise, there is no use of these glowworms. So this Krsna
   consciousness movement is Krsna Himself. Therefore they must be
   finished, all over the world. So-called religionists, so-called
   philosophers, so-called avataras, swamis, yogis–finished. Our program
   should be like that. (break) …all these rascals, anymore to flourish.

   That is one of our program. (S.P.Morning Walk Excerpts May 2, 1974, Bombay).

   All of us must follow Srila Prabhupada’s VANI to make our lives sublime in cultivating Krsna Consciousness under all circumstances.

   OM TAT SAT.

   Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.

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4. Mahesh Raja says:

   14. September 2018 at 3:16 pm

   Jitavrata: But I see hope in the horizon , happy days are returning because of your Jayapataka Swami who is getting his visa extended for his visit on this earth, all by the mercy of Lord Nrisimhadeva and by the mercy of his disciples, so that he may finish your big plans for Mayapur. Rameswara your great book distribution general is coming back to hopefully retire in Mayapur

   Mahesh: Jayapataka, Rameswara are part and parcel of the bogus guru club that Srila Prabhupada NEVER authorized. Jitavrata needs himself to study Srila Prabhupada books properly.

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   https://arsaprayoga.com/2018/09/09/devotee-asked-to-stop-his-vyasa-puja-offering-at-iskcon-mayapur/

   At ISKCON Mayapur a devotee, Jitavrata Dasa, was publicly humiliated for speaking the truth about the book changes. He was asked to stop his vyasa puja offering.

   Read the complete vyasa-puja offering below (the part that Jitavrata Prabhu was not able to speak has been marked with bold).

   Nama Om Vishnu padaya Krishna prestaya bhutale
   Srimate Bhaktivedanta swamin iti namine
   namas te Sarasvate deve Gauravani pracarine
   nirvisesa sunyavadi pascatya desa tarine

   Dear Srila Prabhupada ,

   please accept my humble obeisances unto your worshipable Lotus Feet.

   You brilliantly shine as the most glorious servant of your Lordship Sri Sri Radha Madhava.

   As time goes by, and as ignorance is dispelled, you are appreciated as the most important personality in our movement ,most definitely because you are the founder acharya under whose guidance everyone must abide in order to understand the instructions of the disciplic succession that are within your books.

   You are without a doubt the most merciful guru to empower even today whoever takes shelter of your instructions. We all feel very fortunate to be under the shelter at your Lotus feet. They are guiding us back to Godhead beyond the shadow of a doubt.
   It is only because of you that we can find the potency to continue your great mission of bringing immortal happiness to the entire world. Your greatest joy is to see your books distributed far and wide, because your books unlock the doors to the treasure house of pure Love of Krishna.

   As time goes by, your Divine presence is becoming more intensely felt because we realize that it is only by your mercy that this movement is carrying on. You are everyone’s well wisher and your spiritual attributes are unfathomable.

   As ISKCON is your body, you want to see it flourish and grow beyond material limits, in great spiritual happiness and health for all the generations to come. So many nice devotees have joined your movement and are very much eager to serve at your Lotus Feet with great joy.

   Please give us the intelligence to not change the bonafide process that you are giving us, as to avoid causing you so many troubles. It was first given by Krishna and has worked wonders millions of years ago, it is still now working so many wonders and will continue to work wonders in the milleniums to come.

   As you are the spirit maintaining ISKCON thru sickness and health, please give us the intelligence to understand the supreme importance of protecting all the original English versions of your books that you have personally approved and rendered thereby eternal.
   You have compiled these books with great endeavor, choosing each word and sentence very carefully under the full guidance of Lord Krishna sitting next to you. Your very specific combination of words acts like a powerful mantra to cut thru the illusory energy of Maya and revive our remembrance of Krishna

   By changing these word arrangements thinking to know English better than you is the greatest offense as it removes the bonafide value of your writings. You taught us that 5 things permits Kali’s influence to infiltrate our consciousness. Meat eating, intoxication, gambling, illicit sex and if all four are absent then Kali is allowed to reside where there is hording of gold. Our biggest protection is the chanting of a minimum of 16 rounds every day, and keeping the association of the devotees. These simple instructions if carefully practiced will protect us from down falls.

   You told Rameswara your BBT Trustee that your greatest fear was that after your departure, bonafide instructions will be taken out of your books and non bonafide things will be introduced, that is why you strictly forbade any book changes and you really made this instruction very clear to him. Unfortunately Rameswara left after a series of unfortunate events and even though these instructions were left in writing when Rameswara was interviewed for the production of your Lilamrta, that interview was never utilized and simply sat in the archives forgotten for over 30 years. As the enemy is invisible but its influence can be seen. Kali has infiltrated somehow or other,maybe someone is hording some gold or breaking the principles who really knows, but somehow Kali has found a way to modify your books, making it look seemingly harmless, claiming the changes will be closer to what you really meant , but Kali has in fact opened wide the doors for future changes. Next Kali will make us believe that watering down the philosophy will greatly increase our membership among those who are especially angry that you are just too strict and conservative with your principles, so better make a few compromises, where is the harm? And then Kali will tell us next that there is no need to chant Jaya Prabhupada , it is not necessary . Kali’s goal is to really minimize your importance and gradually take you out of the picture .Kali says” no no a little book change that is alright,where is the harm we are making the books better, Prabhupada didn’t know how to speak english we are just helping him out especially since now we even know sanskrit better than him”. Is this why you emphatically stressed no book changes,as you could foresee these attacks from the fox like Kali?

   Rameswara Prabhu , has witnessed first hand your reactions over some changes the press was planning for your books. He was coming of course to get your approval as you always personally directed every details of your books publications. He saw how very angry you were when presented with so called book changes for the seemingly better, and that was the most frightening experience Rameswara ever had to see you this angry ,he felt very similar to what Hiranyakasipu felt when he saw Lord Nrisimhadeva. Hiranyakasipu was actually so scared that he fought the Lord with his eyes closed. You repeatedly told Rameswara that you do not want your books changed. You also told Hayagriva your editor in 1972 that you had approved all the verses in the Bhagavad Gita and that there was no need to change any of them, that once approved they are eternal. Rameswara carefully noted down all the details of these super heavy lessons and in 1979 he gave a long interview for the Lilamrta describing everything that happened . He had never seen anyone so angry, There were also many others who were involved with the press like Radhaballava das , Bali Mardana, your BBT artists and various editors who received your clear instructions about not changing your books except for the few absolutely needed corrections. When we finished the Chaitanya Caritamrta marathon in 75, Rameswara told you afterwards that in the subsequent printing the finished paintings would replace the unfinished ones. You said no, no book changes, but Prabhupada he said we are just putting the finished paintings in , they are the same paintings .but three times you forbade him to do so, because you wanted to stress and emphasize that no matter how good the reasons seems to be, you did not want your books changed, once approved they are eternal.

   But now we see that so many changes have been made, your very clear instructions on this matter have been forgotten in the archives for more than 30 years and as they are now seeing the light of the day we are faced with the difficult task of undoing this blunder, difficult because Kali has brainwashed us and anyone who criticizes these changes is shown the door . Kali ‘s might is right and devotees are scared to talk about this ,because they don’t want to be kicked out of ISKCON. So what to do?
   We want to correct these transgressions from your orders so that we may qualify to be the recipients of your full mercy .

   This is why we pray at your lotus feet to please give us the intelligence to understand how you are too monumentally big for anyone to correct your books . What you wrote was already approved by you, and you did not want it changed in any ways. Please give ISKCON at large the spiritual intelligence to understand this principle of arsa- prayoga. I do not see how we can get your mercy while keeping you in an angry mood over the changing of your books, this is the most serious offense to think that we can touch your writings. Please consider our ignorance and we beg you to please enlighten those who do not see the evil in these activities. Your books are worshipable deities being non different than Bhagavan Sri Krishna and we know them to contain all of your devotional ecstasies. In the first Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam , Chapter five, the verse of text eleven says: On the other hand, that literature which is full of descriptions of the transcendental glories of the name, fame, forms, pastimes , etc. , of the unlimited Supreme Lord is a different creation, full of transcendental words directed toward bringing about a revolution in the impious lives of this world’s misdirected civilization. Such transcendental literatures, even though imperfectly composed, are heard, sung and accepted by purified men who are thoroughly honest. The original English version of your books are the seed mantra to all worldwide translations of your books, the ultimate reference in authenticity, that anyone could refer to. What will scholars think when they find out your books were tampered with, they will refuse to study the bogus ones.

   No outside influence can stop your ISKCON, but to allow from within that your books may be modified is non different than killing you. You said that you live eternally in your books, but if they are modified then they are no longer your books, Kali has found a way of silencing you by playing the changing game to suit its evil purposes while still presently hiding behind your good name.Do we need to form a Ksatriya force to keep this Kali at bay? Please Srila Prabhupada give us the intelligence to see clearly, guide us on the right path, and inspire your BBT to print all your original versions once again. But I see hope in the horizon , happy days are returning because of your Jayapataka Swami who is getting his visa extended for his visit on this earth, all by the mercy of Lord Nrisimhadeva and by the mercy of his disciples, so that he may finish your big plans for Mayapur. Rameswara your great book distribution general is coming back to hopefully retire in Mayapur. Please illuminate their hearts with your full splendor and please kick Kali far away. Allow us to remain very close to you Srila Prabhupada , let your instruction of no book changes be known in ISKCON at large. Let the truth of your instructions shine. Let us all work united under you, under your unchangeable immortal instructions.

   Jaya Sri Sri Radha Madhava,
   Jaya Supremely powerful Lord Nrisimhadeva,
   Jaya O most merciful Sri Sri Panca tattva,
   Jaya o most magnanimous Srila Prabhupada!

   Your worthless dog
   Jitavrata das

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   • Sudarsana Das Vanacari says:

     15. September 2018 at 7:44 pm

     I missed the “happy days are here again!” part! I should have read it all the way through! The “hope on the horizon” as he puts it is a mirage, brought about by years of compromise. It is highly delusional to thing that Jayapataka and Ramesvara are going to be part of the solution when for years they have been the ”problem!”

     As one famous philosopher once said “If you live on hope, then you will die fasting!”

     One can only live by the truth, which are the words and instructions of the sole Diksa Guru and Acharya of ISKCON Srila A C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada (by his own order) not Rothschilds agents and Crypto Jew, bogus pretenders and poisoners with their hoards of sycophantic minions.

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5. Vadiraja acbsp says:

   16. September 2018 at 6:40 pm

   The Demons disguised as as Vaishnavas are very active in disrupting the rsna Consciousness movement. The Gunda that stopped the offering on the excuse of been “too long” and as he said,”others”(?) are complaining,is the proof that our movement is been infiltrated by Kali Chelas.

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6. Amar Puri says:

   16. September 2018 at 7:12 pm

   I see a CRY OUT LOUD in his compassionate message of Prayer from Jitavrata das to our Jagat Guru Srila Prabhupada for these two totally bewildered Jivas i.e. Jayapataka Swami and Rameswara which reads as ;

   ” Please illuminate their hearts with your full splendor and please kick Kali far away. Allow us to remain very close to you Srila Prabhupada , let your instruction of no book changes be known in ISKCON at large. Let the truth of your instructions shine. Let us all work united under you, under your unchangeable immortal instructions.”

   Indeed, let the Truth of Srila Prabhupada’s VANI shine always.

   OM TAT SAT.

   Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.

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7. Mahesh Raja says:

   16. September 2018 at 10:17 pm

   Sudarsana Das :I missed the “happy days are here again!” part! I should have read it all the way through! The “hope on the horizon” as he puts it is a mirage, brought about by years of compromise. It is highly delusional to thing that Jayapataka and Ramesvara are going to be part of the solution when for years they have been the ”problem!”

   Mahesh: I have heard from many sources that these books Srimad Bhagavatam sets that Jitavrata das(Jitarati das) has been selling are NOT all original 1st editions BUT are a MIXTURE of revised AND later editions. Also I heard Naresvara das (Australia) the guy who stopped him has vested interest in selling his ALL revised changed books.

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   Original GENUINE -FIRST EDITIONS- Srimad Bhagavatams and Caitanya Caritamrta Originals are for sale here:

   https://krishnastore.co.uk/srimad-bhagavatam-set-original-30-volume-h-krishna-502.html

   https://krishnastore.co.uk/sri-caitanyacaritamrta-17-volume-set-1974-edition-h-krishna-3415.html

   Note: these are only in very limited stock now – so I hear – best to get them while you can.

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8. Mahesh Raja says:

   17. September 2018 at 6:50 pm

   Correcting mistake.

   I have been told Jitarati is different person from Jitavrata.

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