FEMALE ISK’CON GURUS
GBC RESOLUTION:
1. That resolution 425/2005 “Female Diksa Guru” is amended to read as follows:
“The GBC accepts the philosophical conclusion presented in the SAC’s Female Diksa Guru Paper that a mature, qualified, female devotee may accept the role of an initiating spiritual master.”
2. The GBC Body authorizes local area committees to put forward for approval as initiating guru any devotee in their area, male or female, who is qualified according to existing GBC Law.
[GBC Resolution – Action Order]
305. Female Diksa Gurus
Whereas there is a factual need for more diksa-gurus in ISKCON to accommodate the worldwide preaching;
Whereas there are mature female preachers qualified to take on diksa-guru responsibilities;
Whereas there are a number of such qualified women who already have siksa disciples;
Whereas the GBC Body previously issued the following statement in 2005, which has now been given further consideration:
425. Female Diksa Guru
The GBC accepts the basic philosophical conclusion presented in the SAC’s Female Diksa Guru Paper, i.e. that a mature, qualified, female devotee may accept the role of an initiating spiritual master. The implementation thereof is pending further GBC consideration.
RESOLVED:
1. That resolution 425/2005 “Female Diksa Guru” is amended to read as follows:
“The GBC accepts the philosophical conclusion presented in the SAC’s Female Diksa Guru Paper that a mature, qualified, female devotee may accept the role of an initiating spiritual master.”
COMMENT: the whole ISK’CON guru process is bogus, wherther they are male or female gurus. Self-appointed ISK’CON kali-cela gurus are nothing but opportunistic shenanigans that are going on in the name of ‘preaching’ and pseudo devotional service.
IskCon’s Great female GBC Guru Circus
“Prabhupada: So-called gurus, they are so-called gurus. They are not gurus. That is already explained. If one does not speak what Krsna speaks, he is not guru. If you accept so-called guru, that is your misfortune. What can be done?
Pusta Krsna: Some of them will say some things that Krsna says, but they’ll take from other places also. What is the position of such persons?
Prabhupada: HE’S MOST DANGEROUS. He’s most dangerous. HE IS OPPORTUNIST. HE’S FINDING OUT CUSTOMER, something here… According to the customer he is giving something, as the customers will be pleased. So he is not guru.” 760628bj.nv
“It is now evident that some of our top men are very much ambitious and there has been so many fall-downs.”
(Srila Prabhupada Letter, January 27th, 1975)
“But the difficulty is that our GBC men are falling victim to maya. Today I trust this GBC and tomorrow he will fall down. That is the difficulty. If the GBC men are so flickering then what to speak of the others. Unless this problem is solved whatever we may resolve it will not be very useful.” (Srila Prabhupada Letter, December 16th, 1974)
“Our mission is to serve bhakta-visesa and live with devotees. Not that you take the place of the guru. That is nonsense, very dangerous. Then everything will be spoiled. As soon as you become ambitious to take the place of guru—gurusu nara-matih. That is the material disease.” (Srila Prabhupada Conversation, April 20th, 1977)
“The GBC should all be the instructor gurus. I am the initiator guru, and you should be the instructor guru by teaching what I am teaching and doing what I am doing. This is not a title, but you must actually come to this platform. This I want.”
(Srila Prabhupada Letter, August 4th, 1975)
Srila Prabhupada: “I am the Spiritual Master of this institution, and ALL the members of the Society, they’re supposed to be MY disciples. They follow the rules and regulations which I ask them to follow, and they are INITIATED BY ME spiritually” – (Srila Prabhupada Radio Interview, 12 March 1968, San Francisco)
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Second Generation Devotees Not Allowed to be ISKCON ‘Gurus!’ (But women are)
GBC RESOLUTION – RESOLVED:
“Whereas the moratorium on both Vaishnavi and second-generation devotees serving as diksa-guru remains…” (2018 GBC Resolutions)
Pratyatosa: It’s a sin to be born within the Hare Krishna Movement? Those born within the movement are, according to the GBC, inferior to those born in meat-eating families? Former “drug addicted hippies” are superior to the 2nd generation of Hare Krishna devotees? Sounds crazy to me!
ISKCON is about what one might expect from an organization run by former “drug-addicted hippies” who suffer from permanent brain damage due to all of the LSD they swallowed! One of the symptoms of their insanity is “delusions of grandeur!” Therefore, they are thinking, “I am a guru like Prabhupada!”
“RESOLVED:That the Sastric Advisory Committee is requested to research the evidence for women being called “Mataji”, “Prabhu” or “Devi” and give a conclusive directive as to which of these terms should and should not be used by members of ISKCON.” (2014 GBC Resolutions) After 4 years, this simple question still has not been answered! So how can the GBC be expected to ever resolve anything more serious?
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Three leading Sri Vaisnava scholars comment
on ISKCON’s pending female diksa-guru decision
Krishna-kirti Dasa
Dear GBC members and other leaders of ISKCON, please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
The determination of the GBC body to create new rules for female diksa-gurus in secret and then vote on them, also in secret, without taking into account the views of the rest of ISKCON’s devotees has been divisive and ill-advised. The ISKCON India leadership in particular has already passed a resolution formally protesting this.
Other Vaishnava sampradayas have also raised concerns. Attached with this message are letters from three leading scholars in the Sri Sampradaya who are very concerned that ISKCON in approving of female diksa-gurus is taking the path of adharma.
Professor M.A. Lakshmithathachar, a leading scholar in the Sri Sampradaya, a recipient of numerous awards, including from the President of India, and head of many institutions, as well as being the presiding Acharya of the Anantarya Peetham in Melkote, cautions that,
“If ISKCON, an internationally famous organization, goes against the shistacara and be successful, probably the other schools of Vedanta like Ramanuja, Vallabha, Nimbarka, etc., may follow suit, which results in th practice of violating the shishtacara and is not desirable. I wish ISKCON, an internationally reputed organization, will not establish a new shistacara violating all the shistacaras practiced even today in all the schools of Vedanta.”
Sri Muralidhara Bhattar, Chief Archaka of the Sri Ranganatha Swami temple, Sri Rangam, Tiruchirapalli, and descendant of the brother of Sri Venkata Bhatta, at whose house Lord Caitanya stayed, and whose famous son was Sri Gopal Bhatta Goswami, writes,
ISKCON is a reputed institution for propagating and protecting Santana Dharma. Srila Prabhupada, the Founder-Acharya of ISKCON, has done a monumental service to the whole world, especially the Vaishnava communities, by propagating Srimad Bhagavad-gita and Srimad Bhagavatam all over the world and presented in an authentic manner, or “As It Is.”
But recently, it came to my notice that the ISKCON GBC is proposing the appointment of women within ISKCON as acharyas, mantra-gurus who will give diksha. If this is indeed true, then I would like to bring to your kind attention that such decisions are asastriyam. This would be against sanatana dharmas, proper acharams and anusthanams.
Professor Lakshmikumara Tatacharyar (Vasudevan), of Sri Rangam, PhD Vishishtadvaita and professor at the Raja Sanskrit College, Kumbhakonam, writes,
“ISKCON is an international sampradaya and thus a natural leader of other smaller size sampradayas. Many youth of our sampradaya get influenced by ISKCON and then start to follow santhana dharma and come back to teachings of Ramanuja sampradaya. Many of them stay in ISKCON dharma, still we are not disturbing them because they get full opportunity to follow our dharma and we feel secured that in ISKCON they will be protected from adharma.
“But, if adharma comes into ISKCON also, then it will influence our sampradaya also. Our sampradaya members may also start asking us to implement this adharma. After Sabarimalai incident, it is already a push from outside factors; but now ISKCON also doing so will give strength to adharmic parties of the modern world to push adharma into our sampradaya.”
We pray that you take the time to read carefully the letters that we have included in this email to understand the intent and advice that they have presented for your consideration.
When ISKCON itself was a very small organization, it depended on the good will and recommendation of these very sampradayas so that the people in India and Indians around the world would recognize, honor, and assist Srila Prabhupada work and mission. And Srila Prabhupada was immeasurably pleased to have their support. So, you have to ask yourselves this: if you lose their support, will Srila Prabhupada be pleased?
In this regard, please find attached a PDF file with the statements of support for ISKCON from different sampradayas. (Anandamaya Prabhu in Hyderabad kindly supplied them.) If you review them, I am sure that you will agree that their support for Srila Prabhupada’s mission, ISKCON, has been exceptional, heart-felt, and sincere.
It is our sincere hope that the GBC will reconsider their impending decision to have female diksa-gurus and, at the very least, discuss the matter with the leaders of these other sampradayas that have helped ISKCON so much in the past.
Your servant, Krishna-kirti Dasa
p.s. For further shastric research and references and videos, including from the three scholars, please visit https://siddhanta.com/wordpress/?page_id=826
Complete article here:
https://akincana.net/2019/02/21/three-leading-sri-vaisnava-scholars-comment-on-iskcons-pending-female-diksa-guru-decision/
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Please also see:
ISKCON GBC approves Women Gurus
Debate rages about Feminist Diksha Gurus
THE MASCULINE /FEMINIST VAISNAVIS
The Conditioned Jivas who are not restrained from the sense gratification process for sensual pleasure, they find the OBJECT one way or the other which indulge them in such a process simply to gratify their senses under the religiosity and a welfare system designed for satisfying all sorts of material desires.
A True Seeker in the knowledge of cultivating Spiritual realization does not hanker for such desires for any designation of any kind regardless of any gender.
Any body, a student or a teacher or an expert in the Science of Krsna Consciousness can help and guide others as instructed by the bonafide Spiritual Master. That is the recommended process which is also known as ” PROUPKAR “. as per the opinion of the Sastras, Shadus and the Guru His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada’s VANI.
OM TAT SAT.
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada ‘s VANI is meant not only for a small group of disciples or those he personally met and guided, but, due to its “Universal Nature,” will deliver all others in all times.
Thus, Srila Prabhupada’s VANI , like Maitreya Rishi instructing to Mahatama Vidur in the Srimad Bhagavatam, is immortal. This mystery can never be appreciated by POSERS whose ulterior aim is to exploit the eternal mission of the Supreme Lord for personal ambition. Nor can it be understood by mayavadis, impersonalists, and sahajiyas.
In fact, even prakrita-bhaktas (materialistic devotees WANNA BE A GOROOO) who deliberately remain attached to this material world and fail to appreciate good instructions for detachment may fall again into degradation.
These are the verdict of the Sadhus, Sastras and the Guru HDG. Srila Prabhupada’s VANI.
OM TAT SAT.
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Absolutely agree with Comment:
“The whole ISK’CON guru process is bogus, whether they are male or female gurus”.
However in searching the GBC 2018 Annual & Mid-term minutes (puke), I could not find any resolution relating to the FDGs, apart from the one #308 quoted below. Therefore was this ‘amended resolution’ stated in the above article passed at a secret GBC meeting since that time?
RESOLVED:
1. That resolution 425/2005 “Female Diksa Guru” is amended to read as follows:
“The GBC accepts the philosophical conclusion presented in the SAC’s Female Diksa Guru Paper that a mature, qualified, female devotee may accept the role of an initiating spiritual master.”
GBC 2018: #308: Dedication of Time to Guru-Related Research
Whereas GBC Resolution 310 of 2015 states:
Guru Related Research[Statement]Based on the sacred siddhanta of guru-tattva, and with a positive and enthusiastic spirit, the GBC undertakes the responsibility to provide for present and future generations of devotees, a comprehensive and inclusive understanding that delineates how diksa-and siksa-gurus unitedly work within the framework of ISKCON. In the meantime the existing resolutions and proposals concerning (a)Vaisnavi diksa-gurus and (b) disciples initiating in the physical presence of their initiating guru, are held in abeyance until these roles are defined within the above-mentioned comprehensive research. The progress of that effort as regards these resolutions will be reviewed annually until its conclusion, to which the GBC is steadfastly dedicated to accomplish.
Whereas the issues of implementation of Vaishnavi dikṣa-gurus and disciples initiating in the presence of their initiating guru in ISKCON remain unresolved;
Whereas there is a critical need for many more devotees to serve as diksa-guru in ISKCON;
Whereas there are at least 9 million congregational members in ISKCON;
Whereas ISKCON has less than 80 devotees available to give diksa to potentially 9 million people;
Whereas if every congregational member sought initiation each ISKCON guru would have to accept approximately 112,500 disciples;
Whereas the moratorium on both Vaishnavi and second-generation devotees serving as diksa-guru remains until the GBC concludes its research on guru-tattva in ISKCON;
Whereas the GBC Body previously committed to that research and to annually review, until its conclusion, a comprehensive and inclusive understanding that delineates how diksa and siksa-gurus unitedly work within the framework of ISKCON;
Whereas the GBC stated it “is steadfastly dedicated”to accomplish the above;
Resolved:The GBC recommits to its statement of 310/2015,and begins by dedicating at least two days at either every Annual General Meeting or Midterm General Meeting to this subject until the relevant aspects of this topic are resolved satisfactorily.
Pamho agtsp. The fake brahma gaudiya sampradaya Could not get more degraded then that now they got the hog shit to worship not just the pig stools anyway they are already dead even if they are still breathing time will tell agtacbsp ys haribol
Pamho agtsp. Siva ratri ki jai We know that everything is connected with Sri krsna not ordinary body. krsna punish the exploiters thought different parts of his body until one become kc so they deserve to be cheated since they are cheaters they will die cheated until the last breath that’s all agtacbsp ys haribol
Left-handed “ginger Jewesses!”, another addition of demonic parentage (through mutant DNA) to further DESTROY Dharma and reinforce control by Crypto Jews of FISKCON. Jewish succession comes through the female as Talmud and Kabbala worship the “Goddess” Semiramis, (Whore of Babylon) represented through The Illuminati as Columbia (Statue of “Liberty”), Maryanne (Fr), Brittania (UK). There are already “WITCHES, LESBIANS AND WHORES” ready to accept ‘bogus female gooroo’ position through show of MALE CRYPTO-JEW ‘SHOW OF HANDS’ as there are still many “Shekels” that have yet to be “PLUNDERED!”
Male Crypto-Jew bogus gooroos and GBC have already been “neutered” by these Kabbalist witches as they are impotent and ”mummy’s boys” with no stamina, no direction, no principals and no brains! This will spell the complete end of their bogus “Empire of Sand” and rejection by all of the other existing Sampradayas in India!
“All of those Crypto-Jews present “in favor of this proposal” say “CIRCUMCISION!” (genital mutilation!) and all those “against” please note the two doors to the rear marked “EXIT!”
This “feminist” idea is just a manifestation of Khazarian Mafia in recent times financed by Illuminati Zionist Rockerfeller (bankrolling the pill, the IUD contraceptive device and “abortion clinics”) and also with the help of CIA (who financed and bankrolled MS Magazine, Zionist Jew Gloria Steinem and “Women’s Liberation”.
This is a manifestation of worship of ‘The Whore of Babylon’ These ambitious FISKCON hags are not Vaisnavas but Khazarian Crypto Jew, whores and witches. If one does not understand history then, once again, it will just re-manifest just like the ‘Illuminati Phoenix bird’ which is constantly ”reborn” rising out of the ashes and re-emerging as something else, though appearing as something ‘progressive and modern’ but has been going on for thousands of years.
This is an excellent ‘timeline’ going back 2,000 years….
search: POLITICAL VEL CRAFT………………… scroll down 3/4 down page to article “The Hidden History of the Rothschild Khazarian Mafia” (this is an excellent article!)
Many other good articles on this (POLITICAL VEL CRAFT) site.
FISKCON is a Khazarian Mafia Cult, that’s all it is! It is ‘wholey and soley’ POLITICS that controls FISKCON. It ceased to be “Spiritual and Transcendental” upon the departure of His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada!