THIS IS THE MOST ESSENTIAL AND IMPORTANT QUESTION WE ASK ALL THE SENTIMENTAL, BLIND, FANATICAL VICTIMS OF THE SO CALLED “”GURUS””: ARE YOU ABLE HERE & NOW TO PROVE BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT, THAT THE GURU YOU HAVE SURRENDERED TO, HAS SEEN BHAGAWAN SHRI KRSHNA FACE TO FACE(NOT AS A MURTI ETC)..!!!??!!!
Śrīla Prabhupāda Says – [Regarding how a real guru has ‘seen Kṛṣṇa’ and if you choose a guru, a pseudo guru, who has not seen Kṛṣṇa then it is our mistake…]
So Kṛṣṇa’s present by His words, by His representative. Why don’t you take? You have to take guru. Why do you go to the pseudo guru who will mislead you? Why don’t you take to the real guru? That is your mistake. Therefore you are now disappointed. Now you are in doubt whether guru is needed. Yes, guru is needed, but you go to the real guru. That is instruction in the Bhagavad-gītā. Just find out this verse.
tad viddhi praṇipātena
paripraśnena sevayā
upadekṣyanti tad-jñānaṁ
jñāninas tattva-darśinaḥ
[Bg. 4.34]
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: “Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master. Inquire from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realized soul can impart knowledge unto you because he has seen the truth.”
Prabhupāda: So this is guru. What, is that? One who has seen The Absolute Truth.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Jñāninas tattva-darśinaḥ.
Prabhupāda: So one who has seen… Just like Arjuna has seen Kṛṣṇa. That’s a fact. He was talking. How that if you take instruction of Arjuna, then you understand. So what is the instruction of Arjuna?
[Answers to Questionnaire from Bhavān’s Journal: Vṛndāvan 28 June 1976 ]
(by Nimai Nitay dasa)
Nie mogę być uczniem Śrila Prabhupada.
Nie będę już w tym życiu intonował maha-mantry Hare Krsna.
Zostałem pokonany i zdyskwalifikowany, przez swoje demoniczne cechy i przez popełnione Vaisnava aparadhy.
Devamrita, w 1984 r., miał rację wrzeszcząc na mnie, na wykładzie przed Śri Śri Gaura-Nitai, że jestem demonem.
Wściekł się bo powiedziałem mu, że nie mogą istnieć dwie Prawdy Absolutne jednocześnie.
Ponad miesiąc temu, czytałem i zapisałem sobie, podany przez Śrila Bhakivinoda Thakura, wykaz cech demonicznych, anartha, zanieczyszczeń i przeszkód z serca, jakie reprezentują zabite przez Śri Krsnę demony. Jest ich mnóstwo.
I cannot be a disciple of Srila Prabhupada.
I will no longer chant the Hare Krsna maha-mantra in this life.
I was defeated and disqualified because of my demonic qualities and the Vaishnava aparadhas I had committed.
Devamrita, in 1984, was right to shout at me in a lecture before Sri Sri Gaura-Nitai that I was a demon.
He got angry because I told him that two Absolute Truths cannot exist at the same time.
More than a month ago, I read and wrote down Srila Bhakivinod Thakur’s list of demonic qualities, anarthas, impurities and obstructions from the heart, which represent the demons killed by Sri Krsna. There are plenty of them.
Waldemar Prabhu says:
“Devamrita, in 1984, was right to shout at me in a lecture before Sri Sri Gaura-Nitai that I was a demon.”
Devamrita (Dave’s not here!) is NOT right about anything! It is only a demonic, FTM androgynous ‘house nigger’ that’s all! It was angry because it is a rakshasa and an enabler of poisoners, murderers and pedophiles. This demon is always full of hubris, but has NO gravity as it is a shapeshifter and cross-dresser who is a psychopathic control freak and doesn’t like to be challenged!
Androgyne rakshasas hate ‘natural’ women and men as they are homosexual perverts and deviants.
http://www.harekrsna.org/gbc/black.htm#buchstabe_d
http://www.harekrsna.org/gurupoison/support/devamrita.htm
Czy to, co się z nimi dzieje, jest konsekwencją otrucia Śrila Prabhupada ?
Is what is happening to them a consequence of Srila Prabhupada’s poisoning?
Those who are GBC’s, they should be very, very careful to administer the business of ISKCON. Otherwise they will be punished.
Lecture on SB 1.13.15 — Geneva, June 4, 1974: So Vidura was Yamarāja. Not only he was Yamarāja, ordinary, but he is one of the great authorities. There are twelve authorities mentioned in the śāstra. One of them is Yamarāja. Balir vaiyāsakir vayam. This is stated in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. Yamarāja is one of the GBC of Kṛṣṇa. Yes. As we have got twelve GBC’s, similarly Kṛṣṇa has got GBC’s. Now,
svayambhūr nāradaḥ śambhuḥ kumāraḥ kapilo manuḥ prahlādo janako bhīṣmo balir vaiyāsakir vayam [SB 6.3.20]
That twelve men are authorized to preach Kṛṣṇa consciousness. So we have to follow. Mahājano yena gataḥ sa panthāḥ [Cc. Madhya 17.186]. Therefore we have created these GBC. So they should be very responsible men. Otherwise, they will be punished. They will be punished to become a śūdra. Although Yamarāja is a GBC, but he made a little mistake. He was punished to become a śūdra. So those who are GBC’s, they should be very, very careful to administer the business of ISKCON. Otherwise they will be punished. As the post is very great, similarly, the punishment is also very great. That is the difficulty. You can see from this example, Vidura. He was immediately punished. He did little mistake at Maṇḍūka… Because the ṛṣis, the munis, they will curse. Dealing is very… Even Yamarāja is not taking.
I read a story, which was an account that Jvalamukhi Devi Dasi had experienced as a 7 year old child whilst being a victim of Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA) at The Fisher Mansion concerning the court of Sri Yamaraja.
This is a harrowing tale indeed and not for the feignt-hearted!
This was part #3 of her “J” Files series at Jvalamukhi.com (also on youtube).
THIS IS A MUST SEE! AND ALL CREDIT TO HER GRACE JVALAMUKHI DEVI DASI FOR BEING BRAVE ENOUGH TO EXPOSE THIS TRAVESTY WITHIN ISKCON!
This really knocked me for six!
I have previously read about SRA on a website called “In Search of Black Assassins” which covers Satanic Ritual Abusers such as the ‘lesbian’ Hart Sisters who starved, tortured and murdered their adopted black children. It is not so surprising that these Satanic pedophiles control ISKCON through the agency of Freemasonry and the CIA and that many are also gender-inverted androgynes with a lust for mystic power.
~There are none so blind as those who refuse to see~
They still want to believe that Santa Claus is real…..and who actually came up with stupid ideas of Easter Bunnies laying eggs and Santa Claus giving gifts for free?…..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC1jdTqqWtk
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Note: taking shelter of Srila Prabhupada THE BONAFIDE GURU and following his instructions comes when one is actually SINCERE:
LCFL Life Comes From Life
Student: If somebody is actually SINCERE, will he always meet a bona fide guru?
Srila Prabhupada: Yes. Guru-krsna-prasade paya bhakti-lata-bija. Krsna is within you, and as soon as He sees that you are sincere, He will send you to the right person.
Student: And if you are not completely sincere, you will get a cheater for a teacher?
Srila Prabhupada: YES. IF YOU WANT TO BE CHEATED, KRSNA WILL SEND YOU TO A CHEATER. KRSNA IS SUPERINTELLIGENT. IF YOU ARE A CHEATER, HE WILL CHEAT YOU PERFECTLY. BUT IF YOU ARE ACTUALLY SINCERE, THEN HE WILL GIVE YOU THE RIGHT GUIDANCE. In Bhagavad-gita (15.15) Krsna says, sarvasya caham hrdi sannivisto mattah smrtir jnanam apohanam ca: “I am seated in everyone’s heart, and from Me come remembrance, knowledge and forgetfulness.” Krsna speaks of both remembrance and forgetfulness. If you are a cheater, Krsna will give you the intelligence to forget Him forever
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Bali Mardana: If someone is actually sincere, can he be cheated or will he always get a bona fide guru?
Prabhupāda: No, if he is sincere he’ll get. Yes. Guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpāya pāya bhakti-latā-bīja [Cc. Madhya 19.151]. Guru and Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa is within you. As soon as He sees that you are sincere, He’ll give you the right person.
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Note:Srila Prabhupada said, you can wake-up a person who is asleep but NOT one who is PRETENDING to sleep.
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Note: Kona, some fortunate person, not all.
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Devotee: Śrīla Prabhupāda, if we don’t know what Kṛṣṇa is and we still get a bona fide spiritual master, then how do we call that? Our good fortune?
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is stated in Caitanya… Ei rūpe brahmāṇḍa bhramite kona bhāgyavān jīva. Kona, some fortunate person, not all.
ei rūpe brahmāṇḍa bhramite kona bhāgyavān jīva
guru-kṛṣṇa-prasāde pāya bhakti-latā-bīja
[Cc. Madhya 19.151]
You find out this in Teachings of Lord Caitanya. Find out the “Teachings to Rūpa Gosvāmī.”
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Prabhupāda: They’ll come. First of all, this life is not for every man. Most fortunate man. Kona bhāgyavān jīva. Kona, kona means someone; it is not for everyone. Kona bhāgyavān. Find out this verse, Nineteenth Chapter, Madhya-līlā.
ei rūpe brahmāṇḍa bhramite kona bhāgyavān jīva
guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpā pāya bhakti-latā-bīja
[Cc. Madhya 19.151]
(devotees look for verse) Brahmāṇḍa bhramite? Guru-kṛṣṇa. Find out. Guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpā pāya.
Hari-śauri: Guru-kṛṣṇa-prasāde pāya bhakti-latā-bīja.
Prabhupāda: Oh.
Hari-śauri:
brahmāṇḍa bhramite kona bhāgyavān jīva
guru-kṛṣṇa-prasāde pāya bhakti-latā-bīja
“According to their karma, all living entities are wandering throughout the entire universe. Some of them are being elevated to the upper planetary systems, and some are going down into the lower planetary systems. Out of many millions of wandering living entities, one who is very fortunate gets an opportunity to associate with a bona fide spiritual master by the grace of Kṛṣṇa. By the mercy of both Kṛṣṇa and the spiritual master, such a person receives the seed of the creeper of devotional service.”
Prabhupāda: This is not for everyone.
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Pañcadravida: Śrīla Prabhupāda, what is our fortune that we’ve come in contact with a qualified guru? What have we done to qualify to come in contact with you?
Revatīnandana: In other words, why do some come and others not come?
Prabhupāda: It is the ajñāta-sukṛti, say. Ajñāta-sukṛti. You might have done something, very pious activities, which you do not know, but on the effect of.
Madhudviṣa: So it seems like it’s up to chance, then.
Prabhupāda: No chance. Just like a sinful man. Some saintly person comes to him and he gives some money to him. He does not know that “I am doing very pious activity,” but because he has given, he becomes pious.
Revatīnandana: If not even a blade of grass moves unless Kṛṣṇa sanctions it, then why does someone have the opportunity to perform such ajnata-sukrti, another person not?
Prabhupāda: Yes, Kṛṣṇa wants . . . Suppose a saintly person comes to a very sinful man. He needs some money. Immediately Kṛṣṇa says, “Give him some money. He requires.” So he says, “All right, sir, take it.” So Kṛṣṇa’s desires, he gives. Unless Kṛṣṇa dictates from within, how he can give?
Hari-śauri: So then where is the question of free will? If I want to give or not to give . . .
Prabhupāda: No, no, free will under Kṛṣṇa. You can become free will and become a big man immediately. Your free will sanctioned by Kṛṣṇa. You are not so free that whatever you like, you can do.
Madhudviṣa: So even if I want to perform some ajnata-sukrti, it is only by Kṛṣṇa’s mercy that I will do it.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Gurukṛpā: Man proposes and God disposes.
Prabhupāda: That is stated by Caitanya Mahāprabhu.
ei rūpe brahmāṇḍe bhramite kono bhāgyavān jīva
guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpāya pāya bhakti latā bīja
(CC Madhya 19.151)
As soon as he gives to a saintly person, bhakta, he immediately acquires some asset of future development. Immediately.
Acyutānanda: If someone gives to a person for spiritual . . . consciously for spiritual improvement . . .
Prabhupāda: There is no question of . . .
Acyutānanda: . . .and the person misuses the money, does he benefit?
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Acyutānanda: If a man says, “I am giving you this donation because it is a spiritual organization,” but if the money is misused, does that man benefit?
Prabhupāda: If money is misused, then both of them become implicated. If it is not used for Kṛṣṇa, then both of them becomes under the laws of karma.
Acyutānanda: But that man is sincere.
Prabhupāda: Well, this word “sincere,” there is no meaning unless he is a devotee. Ei bala ei manda sab mano-dharma: “These are all mental concoction.” There is no meaning. “This man is good,” “This man is sincere,” “This man is bad,” “This man is . . .” they are all mental concoction. Only good is he who is Kṛṣṇa conscious. Others all rascals.
Hari-śauri: So if Kṛṣṇa has given the dictation, then is He dictating every sinful man to give?
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Hari-śauri: Is He dictating every sinful man to give?
Prabhupāda: Why do you question like that? Kṛṣṇa is so foolish that He will dictate to give to a foolish, er, sinful man? It is odd question.
Hari-śauri: This is that point that does one come to . . . does one get contact with a pure devotee and advance like that from his own free will, from accepting the mercy of the spiritual master or not?
Prabhupāda: What does he say? Hmm?
Hari-śauri: Well the point . . . The point . . .
Prabhupāda: Somebody answer.
Jayādvaita: Not every sinful man is dictated to give money; otherwise they’d all be giving us money. They’re all sinful. We’d be getting money from everyone.
Revatīnandana: But then the question is why some and not others also?
Trivikrama: Kṛṣṇa is in everyone’s heart.
Gurukṛpā: But some are innocent.
Prabhupāda: That is Kṛṣṇa’s dictation.
Revatīnandana: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Yes. And you cannot bind Kṛṣṇa to dictate in a similar way. If He likes, He can ask a sinful man, “Do this.” If He doesn’t like, He may not act. That is Kṛṣṇa.
Revatīnandana: So ultimately it is simply by the mercy of Kṛṣṇa . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Revatīnandana: . . .that he comes back to Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Yes. So it is Kṛṣṇa’s business where to show mercy, where not to show. You cannot oblige Him that “You show mercy everywhere.” No. Nāhaṁ prakāśaḥ sarvasya yoga-maya-samāvṛtaḥ (BG 7.25). Kṛṣṇa . . . You cannot oblige Kṛṣṇa, “You do this.” That is not Kṛṣṇa. That is not Kṛṣṇa. If one is obliged to act to your dictation, then he is not Kṛṣṇa. Therefore whatever Kṛṣṇa likes, He’ll do. You cannot oblige Him, that “You have to do it.” No. That is karma-mimāṁsa, that “If good work gives good result, so why should we care for Kṛṣṇa? We shall do the good work.” That is . . . Ordinary people, they think like that. Karma-mimāṁsa. “If I do good work, Kṛṣṇa will be obliged to give me good effect. Why shall I care for Kṛṣṇa?” That is karma-mimāṁsa. “Work is final. Do good work, that’s all.” They say like that. But we say, even if you do good work, if Kṛṣṇa does not want it, then it will not produce good result. That is Kṛṣṇa.
Trivikrama: We don’t have the mercy of Kṛṣṇa yet, so . . .
Prabhupāda: No, no. Everyone has got the mercy, but that mercy is not obligatory. If He likes, He can give you mercy; if He does not like, He may not.
Trivikrama: But everyone has it.
Prabhupāda: Everyone . . . He is giving mercy. That is general. But if He does not like, He may not give you. You cannot make Him obliged.
Pañcadravida: So why is it, then, if it’s a question of ajñāta-sukṛti . . . The Indians, from their birth they’re watering tulasī, they’re chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa, they’re doing so many activities, but mostly your disciples are foreigners.
Prabhupāda: So that . . . No, means that is temporary. They may come again. It will never go in vain. Just like this cloud. Cloud is meant for raining. Now it is not raining, but when there is sufficient cloud, it will rain. You cannot say there is no rain. There is, but it is not sufficiently collected. When it is sufficiently collected, then.
Revatīnandana: Śrīla Prabhupāda, in the śāstras, like in Bhagavad-gītā, Kṛṣṇa gives certain criteria . . .
Prabhupāda: Sometimes you will see, even no sufficient cloud, still raining.
HERE WE HAVE IT BLACK ON WHITE:
Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Thākura explains in Śrī Caitanya Śikṣāmṛta: “There are two demons killed by Śrī Baladeva — BUT THE CONTAMINATIONS THEY REPRESENT WILL HAVE TO BE REMOVED ” BY DINT OF THE DEVOTEES OWN ENDEAVOURS” – but the contaminations they represent will have to be removed by dint of the devotee’s own endeavours.
>>> This is one of the SECRET mysteries of Vraja-bhakti.<<>> LUST FOR THE COMPANY OF THE OPPOSITE SEX, AS WELL AS THE DESIRE FOR PROFIT, ADORATION AND DISTINCTION <<>> MUST, MUST, MUST<<<BE CAST OUT THROUGH GREAT ENDEAVOUR ON THE PART OF THE DEVOTEE <<<
“The methods of the process of purification are very deep and mysterious; therefore it is necessary to learn about them directly from a bonafide spiritual master.”
Teacher’s note: Lord Balarāma is the original guru, and those who are bonafide spiritual masters are empowered by Him. When the aspiring devotee takes shelter of the spiritual master he or she receives some of that transcendental śakti and is thereby able to overcome the influence of Dhenukāsūra.
https://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=57546
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Surprise…we all have our karma-baggage, NO EXCEPTIONS, we all are the lowest of scum, born to mlecha fathers and mothers, every cell of our subtle and gross bodies is soaked and contaminated with millions of anārthas (unwanted things) since gazillions of births. Impossible task.
Now what does " OWN ENDEAVOUR" mean?
It means to try, to attempt, to strive for the impossible. Going back to Krsna is no easy task, with our karma-baggage it is an individual uphill, Mount Everest, struggle with a 100 kg baggage on the shoulders, with the wind coming with 50 km/h from the front at 0 Celsius and consequently a windchill of -30 Celsius. In short, an impossible task. It is a fight against the false Ego, a fight against circumstances and a fight against the elements of old age, disease and death. Impossible task.
But as Śrīla Prabhupāda puts it:
~~~We should always be enthusiastic to try for shooting the rhinoceros. That way, if we fail, everybody will say, Never mind, nobody can shoot a rhinoceros anyway, and if we succeed, then everyone will say, Just see, what a wonderful thing they have done."
(Srila Prabhupada Letter, December 22, 1971)~~~
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Dziękuję za bardzo cenne rady.
Thank you for your very valuable advice.
Spróbuję jeszcze raz.
Czy powrót do Krsny może być dobrą zabawą ?
I will try again.
Can returning to Krsna be good fun?
Pamho agtacbsp, they will be completely upset when yamaraja tell them your guru was fake like the prasada you been eating bhoga by thinking it was prasada, many donkey with tilak and dhoti but they are still living outside that famous house that SRILA PRABHUPADA CREATED only there the whole world can live peacefully without misconception on the fake designation
anyway their destination is not the same of the sincere prabhupadanugas they are wasting the bonus of the human form of life by getting cheated constantly in so many fake prabhupada but only the pure devotees as our guru maharaj can save this corrupt and polluted world of deformed citizens. Agtacbsp ys haribol
Note: those who are supporting the poison gang exploiting devotees—- are NOT getting away:
…. for after death the result of an action is equally shared by its doer, its director and its supporter.
“I request all the purehearted demigods, forefathers and saintly persons to support my proposal, for after death the result of an action is equally shared by its doer, its director and its supporter.” (SBhag. 4.21.26)
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SB 6.7.14 Indra Offends His Spiritual Master, Brhaspati.
A stone boat would be unable to float and would sink in the water with its passengers. SIMILARLY, THOSE WHO MISLEAD PEOPLE GO TO HELL, AND THEIR FOLLOWERS GO WITH THEM.
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Całkiem oszalałem z powodu choroby i zbyt dużej ilości cierpienia.
I ze złości popełniałem Vaisnava aparadhy.
Najpierw muszę się uwolnić od ich rezultatów.
Czy znacie skuteczne sposoby uwalniania się od rezultatów Vaisnava aparadh ?
I had gone completely mad from being sick and suffering too much.
And out of anger I committed Vaisnava aparadhas.
First I need to free myself from their results.
Do you know any effective ways to free yourself from the results of Vaisnava aparadha?
A vaisnava-aparadha cannot be atoned for by any means other than by begging the pardon of the offended Vaisnava.
SB 4.26.24 P King Puranjana Goes to the Forest to Hunt, and His Queen Becomes Angry
One’s pure intelligence, or pure Krsna consciousness, becomes polluted by material activities. Pure consciousness can be revived by the process of sacrifice, charity, pious activities, etc., but when one pollutes his Krsna consciousness by offending a brahmana or a Vaisnava, it is very difficult to revive. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu has described the vaisnava-aparadha, or offense to a Vaisnava, as “the mad elephant offense.” One should be very careful not to offend a Vaisnava or a brahmana. Even the great yogi Durvasa was harassed by the Sudarsana cakra when he offended the Vaisnava Maharaja Ambarisa, who was neither a brahmana nor a sannyasi but an ordinary householder. Maharaja Ambarisa was a Vaisnava, and consequently Durvasa Muni was chastised.
The conclusion is that if Krsna consciousness is covered by material sins, one can eliminate the sins simply by chanting the Hare Krsna mantra, but if one pollutes his Krsna consciousness by offending a brahmana or a Vaisnava, one cannot revive it until one properly atones for the sin by pleasing the offended Vaisnava or brahmana. This was the course that Durvasa Muni had to follow, for he surrendered unto Maharaja Ambarisa. A vaisnava-aparadha cannot be atoned for by any means other than by begging the pardon of the offended Vaisnava.
Apologize & beg forgiveness from the Vaisnavas you have offended… the only way!
Refer.. Amburish Maharaj & Durbhasa Muni.
Przeprosiłem Vaisnavów za popełnione Vaisnava aparadhy i obrazy.
Przeprosiłem Śrila Prabhupada za popełnione Vaisnava aparadhy i obrazy.
Poprosiłem, by mi wybaczyli.
I pojawiły się skojarzenia, że mam kamienne serce.
I apologized to the Vaisnavas for the Vaisnava aparadhas and offenses committed.
I apologized to Srila Prabhupada for committing Vaisnava aparadhas and offenses.
I asked them to forgive me.
And there were associations that I had a heart of stone.
Harikeśa w 1984 r. nauczał, że bhaktowie są żołnierzami Krsny, i że japasy są karabinami, z magazynkiem na 108 kul. Intonowałem swoje rundy w świątyni strzelając z japasu. I po ponad roku takiego strzelania maha-mantrą Hare Krsna, po prostu zwariowałem.
Jaka jest odpowiednia wiara podczas intonowania maha-mantry Hare Krsna ?
Harikesha taught in 1984 that devotees are Krsna’s soldiers and that japas are rifles with a magazine for 108 bullets. I chanted my rounds in the temple while shooting the japas. And after over a year of shooting the Hare Krsna maha-mantra like this, I just went crazy.
What is the appropriate faith when chanting the Hare Krsna maha-mantra?
Waldemar says: What is the appropriate faith when chanting the Hare Krsna maha-mantra?
Mahesh: Srila Prabhupada gives the following understanding:
SB 3.25.36 P The Glories of Devotional Service
Here the word vilasa is very important. Vilasa refers to the activities or pastimes of the Lord. It is a prescribed duty in temple worship that not only should one visit the temple to see the Deity nicely decorated, but at the same time he should hear the recitation of Srimad-Bhagavatam, Bhagavad-gita or some similar literature, which is regularly recited in the temple. It is the system in Vrndavana that in every temple there is recitation of the sastras. Even third-class devotees who have no literary knowledge or no time to read Srimad-Bhagavatam or Bhagavad-gita get the opportunity to hear about the pastimes of the Lord. In this way their minds may remain always absorbed in the thought of the Lord–His form, His activities and His transcendental nature. This state of Krsna consciousness is a liberated stage. Lord Caitanya, therefore, recommended five important processes in the discharge of devotional service: (1) to chant the holy names of the Lord, Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare. Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare, (2) to associate with devotees and serve them as far as possible, (3) to hear Srimad-Bhagavatam, (4) to see the decorated temple and the Deity and, if possible, (5) to live in a place like Vrndavana or Mathura. These five items alone can help a devotee achieve the highest perfectional stage. This is confirmed in Bhagavad-gita and here in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. That third-class devotees can also imperceptibly achieve liberation is accepted in all Vedic literatures.
NoD 2 The First Stages of Devotion
These principles of vaidhi-bhakti are also described in Srimad-Bhagavatam, Second Canto, First Chapter, verse 5, where Sukadeva Gosvami instructs the dying Maharaja Pariksit as to his course of action. Maharaja Pariksit met Sukadeva Gosvami just a week before his death, and the King was perplexed as to what should be done before he was to pass on. Many other sages also arrived there, but no one could give him the proper direction. Sukadeva Gosvami, however, gave this direction to him as follows: “My dear King, if you want to be fearless in meeting your death next week (for actually everyone is afraid at the point of death), then you must immediately begin the process of hearing and chanting and remembering God.” If one can chant and hear Hare Krsna and always remember Lord Krsna, then he is sure to become fearless of death, which may come at any moment.
SSR 5 Practicing Yoga in the Modern Age
This devotional service begins with the method of sravana. Sravana means “hearing,” and kirtana means “describing.” One should describe, and another should hear. Or the same man himself can both describe and hear. He does not need anyone else’s help. When we chant Hare Krsna, we chant and hear. This is complete. This is a complete method. But what is that chanting and hearing? One must chant and hear about Visnu, Krsna. Not of anything else. Sravanam kirtanam visnoh: one can understand Visnu, the all-pervading Absolute Truth, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, by the method of hearing.
We have to hear; if one simply hears, that is the beginning. One does not need any education or development of material knowledge. Just like a child: as soon as he hears, immediately he can respond and dance. So by nature God has given us these nice instruments–ears–so that we can hear. But we must hear from the right source. That is stated in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. One must hear from those who are devoted to the Supreme Personality of Godhead. They are called satam. If one hears from the right source, from a realized soul, then it will act. And these words of God, or Krsna, are very relishable. If one is intelligent enough, he will listen to what is spoken by the realized soul. Then very soon he will be released from material entanglements.
730111ND.BOM Lectures
So one has to make his determination. Anukulyena krsnanu-silanam. This bhakti… Anukulyena means Krsna wants. You serve. You supply. This is anukula. Now He says, Krsna: man-mana bhava mad-bhakta. Now you become always engaged in thinking of Krsna. Chant Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare. Hare Rama, Hare… That is man-mana, always thinking of Krsna. Because thinking of Krsna and Krsna, there is no difference. Krsna is absolute. As soon as you chant Hare Krsna, as soon as you remember Krsna, that means Krsna is on your tongue, dancing. Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna… Abhinnatvad nama-naminoh. Therefore by constant company with Krsna, punya-sravana-kirtanah. Srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah punya-sravana-kirtanah. If you simply hear about Krsna, then you become pious. Punya-sravana. Simply by hearing, you become pious. You haven’t got to arrange for great, great sacrifices, tons of ghees. No. Simply by hearing Krsna-kathah, you’ll be purified. These are the statements of great personalities, Caitanya Mahaprabhu:
ceto-darpana-marjanam bhava-maha-davagni-nirvapanam
sreyah-kairava-candrika-vitaranam vidya-vadhu-jivanam
anandambudhi-vardhanam prati-padam purnamrtasvadanam
param vijayate sri-krsna-sankirtanam
Sri-krsna-sankirtana is so nice that Krsna says, man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru. Why don’t you become, always think of Krsna? Where is the loss? If you are walking on the street or going on bus or on your car, if you chant Hare Krsna mantra, what is your heavy loss? Is there any loss? Why don’t you do it? Try it. There is no loss. And if there is any gain, why don’t you try it? For nothing, without any loss.
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So you got cheated, most got to some degree. You woke up, GOOD, many don’t. Take it from here. Don’t bother about why and how. It’s never too late. Every day is a new start. YOU decide your future.
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anarthas, misgivings,Anarthopaśamaṁ sākṣād bhakti-yogam adhokṣaje [SB 1.7.6].
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Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 1.7.5-6
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Johannesburg, October 15, 1975
You want satisfaction. If you want real life, then you accept this, yato bhaktir adhokṣaje. Here the same thing, anarthopaśa… This business, struggle for existence, “Survival of the fittest,” they say. But nobody is fit to survive. Everyone has to die. Nobody, even big, big scientists or big, big philosophers and… They cannot survive. They talk of millions of years, but personally they live only fifty or sixty years. This is their position. They simply cheat people: “Maybe.” “Perhaps.” “Millions of years.” And you are going to live for fifty years. Why talking of millions of years? So this is anartha.
So anarthopaśamaṁ sākṣāt. If we want to stop this unwanted business… If you don’t want, go on with your business: bhūtvā bhūtvā pralīyate [Bg. 8.19]. Now take this life, this body, of human being or Indian and then American, then cat, then dog, then hog, then tree—so many, eight million—you go on if you like. But if you are actually intelligent, if you are disgusted, that “This is not very good business. This is anartha, unwanted business. I have been forced, yayā sammohitaḥ… Being bewildered, being illusioned, misdirected by this material energy, I am trying to be happy here in this material…, and it is not my business.” If one comes to this sense… That is stated in the Bhagavad…, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante: [Bg. 7.19] “After many, many births. After many, many births, jnānavān, one who is actually in knowledge, wise…” Then what does he do? Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jnānavān māṁ prapadyate: He surrenders to Kṛṣṇa. The same thing, as Kṛṣṇa says, “Surrender to Me.” If we do not do it… We have to do that, but if you want to wait bahūnāṁ janma, after many, many births, you have to do the same business, why not do it now? This is intelligence. If after bahūnāṁ janmanām ante [Bg. 7.19], when I actually become wise, why not become wise immediately? Kṛṣṇa says; Kṛṣṇa is canvassing. Why not take it up? And if you take it up, you are successful. Tyaktvā sva-dharmaṁ caraṇāmbujaṁ hareḥ [SB 1.5.17]. Even by sentiment you take it, you will be successful, it is so nice.
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Waldemar says: Are devotees active on prabhupadanugas.eu being attacked by a great sinister movement?
Mahesh: That you can judge for yourself WHO is sinster: Those who are AGAINST Srila Prabhupada the ACTUAL DIKSA GURU and NOT allowing the functioning of Ritvik System Srila Prabhupada ORDERED as per July 9th 1977:
ONLY MAHA-BHAGAVATA IS DIKSA GURU: Srila Prabhupada is OUR Diksa Guru For As Long as His Books Are On The Planet
Reply to Rocana’s article “A Ritvik Smokescreen”
By Mahesh Raja and Prabhupadanugas
A) If you are NOT on Transcendental platform you CAN NOT give TRANSCENDENTAL Knowledge.
B) Madhyama means MIDDLE stage he is the RECEPIENT of Diksa whereas the Mahabhagavata is the Spiritual Master who TRANSFERS Krsna in the heart of Madhyama Adhikari thus Diksa is described GRAPHICALLY SB10.2.18. And Antya lila 4.192 – 4.194.
C) Madhyama can NOT be a Diksa Guru as that would be OFFENSIVE chanting – means his spiritual life is FINISHED!
Purport, Nectar of Instruction 5
One should NOT become a spiritual master UNLESS he has attained the platform of uttama-adhikari.
The 3rd Offence in chanting is to disobey the Spiritual Master so if one becomes a spiritual master without being on Uttama Adhikari he will be committing offense.
NoD (Original 1970 page 71) 8 Offenses to Be Avoided The offenses against the chanting of the holy name are as follows: (3) To disobey the orders of the spiritual master.
Lectures: BG 7.1 – Ahmedabad, December 13, 1972 : 721213BG.AHM : The madhyama-adhikārī should not touch the demons. Because maybe, he may turn again, be demon. Therefore one should be very careful to associate with the demons.
D) Kanistha is a MATERIALLY CONTAMINATED hence he is unfit to give Diksa
So how can we establish that Kanistha does NOT give diksa?
Kanistha is a QUALIFIED Brahmana. But even such a QUALIFIED Brahmana is in MATERIAL CONTAMINATION. And because he has MATERIAL CONTAMINATION he does NOT have Transcendental Knowledge. What you do NOT have you can NOT give. And it is Transcendental Knowledge that frees one from ALL MATERIAL CONTAMINATION.
Definition of Diksa:
Madhya 15.108 The Lord Accepts Prasada at the House of Sarvabhauma Bhattacarya
Srila Jiva Gosvami explains diksa in his Bhakti-sandarbha (283):
divyam jnanam yato dadyat kuryat papasya sanksayam tasmad dikseti sa prokta desikais tattva-kovidaih
“Diksa is the process by which one can awaken his transcendental knowledge and vanquish all reactions caused by sinful activity. A person expert in the study of the revealed scriptures knows this process as diksa.”
Madhya 4.111 Sri Madhavendra Puri’ s Devotional Service Diksa actually means initiating a disciple with transcendental knowledge by which he becomes freed from all material contamination.
So here we see from above definition of Diksa quotes:
D1) Transcendental Knowledge awakened, initiated
D2) becomes freed from all material contamination; vanquish all reactions caused by sinful activity
Now ask a simple question HOW can a Brahmana(Kanistha) who is NOT freed from MATERIAL CONTAMINATION GIVE DIKSA -BY WHICH- ONE BECOMES FREED FROM **ALL** MATERIAL CONTAMINATION?
Just take a look at how contradictory and stupid this looks:
Q1) HOW can a Brahmana (Kanistha) who is HIMSELF material contaminated free another person from **ALL** MATERIAL CONTAMINATION?
SB 9.19.25 P King Yayati Achieves Liberation The word vidhuta, meaning “cleansed,” is very significant. Everyone in this material world is contaminated (karanam guna-sango ‘sya). Because we are in a material condition, we are contaminated either by sattva-guna, by rajo-guna or by tamo-guna. Even if one becomes a qualified brahmana in the mode of goodness (sattva-guna), he is still materially contaminated. One must come to the platform of suddha-sattva, transcending the sattva-guna. Then one is vidhuta-trilinga, cleansed of the contamination caused by the three modes of material nature.
Q2) If a Brahmana(Kanistha) had Transcendental Knowledge then why is contaminated by goodness(sattva-guna)?
Diksa is the process by which one can awaken his transcendental knowledge and vanquish all reactions caused by sinful activity.
Diksa actually means initiating a disciple with transcendental knowledge by which he becomes freed from all material contamination
Q3) So HOW can a Kanistha(Brahmana) who HIMSELF is material contaminated does NOT have Transcendental Knowledge give another person Transcendental Knowledge to free him?
Common-sense: What you do NOT have you CAN NOT give to others.
770214r2.may Conversations
Prabhupada: Vaisnava is not so easy. The varnasrama-dharma should be established to become a Vaisnava. It is not so easy to become Vaisnava.
Hari-sauri: No, it’s not a cheap thing.
Prabhupada: Yes. Therefore this should be made. Vaisnava, to become Vaisnava, is not so easy. If Vaisnava, to become Vaisnava is so easy, why so many fall down, fall down? It is not easy. The sannyasa is for the highest qualified brahmana. And simply by dressing like a Vaisnava, that is… fall down.
Hari-sauri: So the varnasrama system is like for the kanisthas, Kanistha-adhikari.
Prabhupada: Kanistha?
Hari-sauri: When one is only on the platform of neophyte.
Prabhupada: Yes. Yes. Kanistha-adhikari, yes.
Hari-sauri: Varnasrama system is beneficial.
Prabhupada: Kanistha-adhikari means he must be a brahmana. That is kanistha-adhikari. The spiritual life, kanistha-adhikari, means he must be a qualified brahmana. That is kanistha. What is esteemed as very high position in the material world, brahmana, that is kanistha-adhikari. arcayam eva haraye pujam yah sraddhayehate na tad-bhaktesu canyesu sa bhaktah prakrtah smrtah The brahmana means from the material stage gradually he is elevated to the spiritual stage. And below the brahmana there is no question of Vaisnava.
Hari-sauri: No question of?
Prabhupada: Vaisnavism.
760206mw.may Conversations
Dayananda: But what about the persons who may be a little bit devoted but who have not achieved that unalloyed devotion?
Prabhupada: Kanistha-adhikari. They are not devotees, but they are called bhaktabhasa. There is some signs of bhakti. Actually they are not bhakta. Bhaktabhasa. Abhasa. Abhasa means a simple, a little light.
Hrdayananda: So devotee really means one who has love for Krsna.
Prabhupada: Yes, unalloyed, without any condition. Anyabhilasita-sunyam, zero, all other, that “I am this, I am that, I am jnani, I am yogi, I am karmi, I am minister, I am king”–all these are thinking like that, they’re all nonsense. “I am servant of Krsna”–that is greatness. Jivera svarupa haya nitya-krsna-dasa. That is self-realization, atma-tattvam.
Madhya 20.59 Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu Instructs Sanatana Gosvami in the Science PURPORT This verse is spoken by Prahlada Maharaja in Srimad-Bhagavatam (7.9.10). A brahmana is supposed to be qualified with twelve qualities. As stated in the Mahabharata:
dharmas ca satyam ca damas tapas ca amatsaryam hris titiksanasuya yajnas ca danam ca dhrtih srutam ca vratani vai dvadasa brahmanasya
“A brahmana must be perfectly religious. He must be truthful, and he must be able to control his senses. He must execute severe austerities, and he must be detached, humble and tolerant. He must not envy anyone, and he must be expert in performing sacrifices and giving whatever he has in charity. He must be fixed in devotional service and expert in the knowledge of the Vedas. These are the twelve qualifications for a brahmana.”
Bhagavad-gita describes the brahminical qualities in this way:
samo damas tapah saucam ksantir arjavam eva ca jnanam vijnanam astikyam brahma-karma svabhava-jam
“Peacefulness, self-control, austerity, purity, tolerance, honesty, wisdom, knowledge, and religiousness–these are the qualities by which the brahmanas work.” (Bg. 18.42)
In the Muktaphala-tika, it is said:
samo damas tapah saucam ksanty-arjava-virakta yah jnana-vijnana-santosah satyastikye dvisad gunah
“Mental equilibrium, sense control, austerity, cleanliness, tolerance, simplicity, detachment, theoretical and practical knowledge, satisfaction, truthfulness and firm faith in the Vedas are the twelve qualities of a brahmana.”
730828BG.LON Lectures
So first of all, we have to become brahmana. Then Vaisnava. Brahmana simply knows that “I am spirit soul,” aham brahmasmi. Brahma janati iti brahmana. Brahma-bhutah prasannatma. By such knowledge one becomes prasannatma. Means relieved. As you feel relief… When there is burden on your head, and the burden is taken away you feel relieved, similarly, this ignorance that “I am this body” is a great burden, a burden upon us. So when you get out of this burden, then you feel relieved. Brahma-bhutah prasannatma. Means when actually one understands that “I am not this body; I am soul,” then he has to work so hard for maintaining this body, so he gets relief that “Why I am working so hard for this lump of material things? Let me execute my real necessity of life, spiritual life.” That is great relief. That is great relief. Brahma-bhutah prasannatma na socati na kanksati. The relief means there is hankering, no more lamentation. These are the brahma-bhutah.
SB 1.2.20 P Divinity and Divine Service
The very same thing is confirmed herein in the above words. No ordinary man, or even one who has attained success in human life, can know scientifically or perfectly the Personality of Godhead. Perfection of human life is attained when one can understand that he is not the product of matter but is in fact spirit. And as soon as one understands that he has nothing to do with matter, he at once ceases his material hankerings and becomes enlivened as a spiritual being. This attainment of success is possible when one is above the modes of passion and ignorance, or, in other words, when one is actually a brahmana by qualification. A BRAHMANA IS THE SYMBOL OF SATTVA-GUNA, OR THE MODE OF GOODNESS. AND OTHERS, WHO ARE NOT IN THE MODE OF GOODNESS, ARE EITHER KSATRIYAS, VAISYAS, SUDRAS OR LESS THAN THE SUDRAS. THE BRAHMINICAL STAGE IS THE HIGHEST STAGE OF HUMAN LIFE BECAUSE OF ITS GOOD QUALITIES. SO ONE CANNOT BE A DEVOTEE UNLESS ONE AT LEAST QUALIFIES AS A BRAHMANA. The devotee is already a brahmana by action. But that is not the end of it. AS REFERRED TO ABOVE, SUCH A BRAHMANA HAS TO BECOME A VAISNAVA IN FACT TO BE ACTUALLY IN THE TRANSCENDENTAL STAGE. A PURE VAISNAVA IS A LIBERATED SOUL AND IS TRANSCENDENTAL EVEN TO THE POSITION OF A BRAHMANA. IN THE MATERIAL STAGE EVEN A BRAHMANA IS ALSO A CONDITIONED SOUL BECAUSE ALTHOUGH IN THE BRAHMINICAL STAGE THE CONCEPTION OF BRAHMAN OR TRANSCENDENCE IS REALIZED, SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE OF THE SUPREME LORD IS LACKING. ONE HAS TO SURPASS THE BRAHMINICAL STAGE AND REACH THE VASUDEVA STAGE TO UNDERSTAND THE PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD KRSNA.
Rocana: Mahesh does not make a distinction between the issue of the qualifications of a bona fide spiritual master, and the fact that sastra acknowledges that there also exist kanishta and madhyam gurus. He does not distinguish between the qualifications of the uttama diksa, and the range of possibility the candidate has for the sorts of guru he might choose for himself, which includes not only uttama-diksa.
Mahesh: The “range of possibility” is non-existent. By definition ONLY Mahabhagavata is Diksa guru as described in CC Madhya 24.330
MAHĀ-BHĀGAVATA-śreṣṭho
brāhmaṇo vai gurur nṛṇām
sarveṣām eva lokānām
asau pūjyo yathā hariḥ
ahā-kula-prasūto ‘pi
sarva-yajñeṣu DĪKṢITAḤ
sahasra-śākhādhyāyī ca
na guruḥ syād avaiṣṇavaḥ
“The guru must be situated on the topmost platform of devotional service. There are three classes of devotees, and the guru MUST be accepted from the topmost class.”
The first-class devotee is the spiritual master for all kinds of people. ….When one has attained the topmost position of MAHA-BHAGAVATA, he is to be accepted as a guru and worshiped exactly like Hari, the Personality of Godhead. ONLY SUCH A PERSON IS ELIGIBLE TO OCCUPY THE POST OF A GURU.
Rocana das is trying to juggle OUT of this in the hope that Kanistha is also some sort of Diksa guru.
Note: When Krsna comes into the heart of sincere soul AT THE STAGE OF MADHYAMA ADHIKARI BY DIKSA FROM MAHABHAGAVATA he SEES Krsna and his SVARUPA is revealed in the heart. Kanistha can NOT transfer Krsna into your heart. Madhyama is A RECIPIENT.
69-01-22. Letter: Vilasavigraha
In regard to your next question, self realization means God realization, and God realization means self realization. JUST LIKE TO SEE THE SUN MEANS TO SEE ONESELF, AND TO SEE ONESELF MEANS TO SEE THE SUN. SELF REALIZATION DEPENDS COMPLETELY UPON GOD REALIZATION, OR ELSE IT IS NOT COMPLETE. ONE MUST KNOW HIS RELATIONSHIP TO THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH TO FULLY KNOW HIS POSITION.
Note: Srila Prabhupada gives Divya-jnana(DIKSA). Divya means TRANSCENDENTAL and Jnana means KNOWLEDGE Hrde means heart and Prokasito means revealed just as in prakasa – manifested Krsna becomes manifest in the heart of the Pure Devotee.
760711CC.NY Lectures
Prabhupada: Divya-jnana hrde prokasito. What is that divya-jnana? Divya-jnana is that we are all servant of Krsna, and our only business is to serve Krsna. Divya-jnana. This is divya-jnana. It is not difficult at all. Simply we have… We have become servant of so many things–servant of society, servant of community, servant of country, servant of wife, servant of children, servant of dog and so many. “Now let me become servant of Krsna.” This is divya-jnana. Diksa. Diksa means from this divya-jnana. That is di. And ksa means ksapayati, expands.
When at the stage of Madhyama Adhikari one is RECEPIENT of THAT Diksa in the HEART from SRILA PRABHUPADA he becomes a SERVANT OF KRSNA. He relishes a particular mellow (Rasa) of his relationship with Krsna. This point HE SEES KRSNA and HIS RELATIONSHIP (svarupa) is established. So it is not so CHEAP to be Diksa guru.
Madhya 8.83 Talks Between Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Ramananda Raya
The purport in presenting this verse necessitates explaining the comparative positions of the transcendental mellows known as santa, dasya, sakhya, vatsalya and madhurya. All these rasas, or mellows, are situated on the transcendental platform. Pure devotees take shelter of one of them and thus progress in spiritual life. Actually one can take shelter of such spiritual mellows only when one is completely uncontaminated by material attachment. When one is completely free from material attachment, the feelings of the transcendental mellows are awakened in the heart of the devotee. That is svarupa-siddhi, the perfection of one’s eternal relationship with the Supreme Lord. Svarupa-siddhi, the eternal relationship with the Supreme Lord, may be situated in one of the transcendental mellows.
Note: When Krsna is TRANSFERRED FROM Pure devotees HEART to another Pure devotee then there is DIKSA. Divya jnana revealtion of ones CONSTITUTIONAL positon Svarupa is UNDERSTOOD. This may take many many many births — NOT so cheap. This is why In Guru Puja to Srila Prabhupada we sing Janme janme prabhu sei:
760805BG.PAR Lectures Prabhupada: Yes, that arrangement will be done, you go on with your business. We are singing this song daily. Why do you forget? Cakhu-dan dilo jei **janme janme prabhu sei**. ONE WHO HAS OPENED THE EYES, **HE’LL REMAIN MY MASTER LIFE AFTER LIFE**.
Note: Srila Prabhupada is WITH US TO GUIDE US through difficult journey of transmigration cycle to attaining Back to Godhead IF we follow him. Bilvamangal Thakura’s Spiritual master came thru a prostitute to deliver him so Srila Prabhupada is also SO POWERFUL to help us:
SB 3.15.24 P Description of the Kingdom of God
IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO GO BACK TO GODHEAD IN ONE LIFE, but in the human form one should at least understand the goal of life and begin Krsna consciousness.
Note: A MADHYAMA-ADHIKARI HAS RECEIVED SPIRITUAL INITIATION FROM THE SPIRITUAL MASTER AND HAS BEEN FULLY ENGAGED BY HIM IN THE TRANSCENDENTAL LOVING SERVICE OF THE LORD.** THIS IS DIKSA**.
Antya 4.192 T Sanatana Gosvami Visits the Lord at Jagannatha Puri:
DĪKṢĀ-KĀLE bhakta kare ātma-samarpaṇa sei-kāle kṛṣṇa tāre kare ātma-sama
“At the time of initiation, when a devotee fully surrenders unto the service of the Lord, Kṛṣṇa accepts him to be as good as Himself.“
Antya 4.193 Sanatana Gosvami Visits the Lord at Jagannatha Puri:
“When the devotee’s body is thus transformed into spiritual existence, the devotee, in that transcendental body, renders SERVICE to the lotus feet of the Lord.
Antya 4.194 Sanatana Gosvami Visits the Lord at Jagannatha Puri: “‘The living entity who is subjected to birth and death, when he gives up all material activities dedicating his life to Me for executing My order, and thus acts according to My direction, AT THAT TIME HE REACHES THE PLATFORM OF IMMORTALITY, AND BECOMES FIT TO ENJOY THE SPIRITUAL BLISS OF EXCHANGE OF LOVING MELLOWS WITH ME.’
NoI 5: In order to intelligently apply the sixfold loving reciprocations mentioned in the previous verse, one must select proper persons with careful discrimination. Srila Rupa Gosvami therefore advises that we should meet with the Vaisnavas in an appropriate way, according to their particular status. In this verse he tells us how to deal with three types of devotees–the kanistha-adhikari, madhyama-adhikari and uttama-adhikari.
The kanistha-adhikari is a neophyte who has received the hari-nama initiation from the spiritual master and is trying to chant the holy name of Krsna. One should respect such a person within his mind as a kanistha-vaisnava.
A MADHYAMA-ADHIKARI HAS RECEIVED SPIRITUAL INITIATION FROM THE SPIRITUAL MASTER AND HAS BEEN FULLY ENGAGED BY HIM IN THE TRANSCENDENTAL LOVING SERVICE OF THE LORD. The madhyama-adhikari should be considered to be situated MIDWAY in devotional service.
The uttama-adhikari, or highest devotee, is one who is very advanced in devotional service. An uttama-adhikari is not interested in blaspheming others, his heart is completely clean, and he has attained the realized state of unalloyed Krsna consciousness. According to Srila Rupa Gosvami, the association and service of such a maha-bhagavata, or perfect Vaisnava, are most desirable.
Note: in this Srila Prabhupada makes a point of Initiation as a formality this is different from Madhyama Adhikaris receiving Diksa
761016iv.cha Conversation
Interviewer: What is the procedure of the movement? Do you initiate yourself all the disciples or do your other disciples also do that?
Prabhupada: Well, initiation or no initiation, first thing is knowledge. (break) …knowledge. Initiation is formality. Just like you go to a school for knowledge, and admission is formality. That is not very important thing.
Whereas Srila Prabhupada DELIVERS by giving DIKSA knowledge the formality of 1st and 2nd Initiation is conducted by the Ritviks (Representatives of Acarya).
Srila Prabhupada’s introduction of Ritvik Initiations (PANCARATRIKI) is fully justified as the formalities may be changed ” can also be initiated according to circumstances.”
SB 4.8.54 Purport:
Those who are not actually in the line of acaryas, or who personally have no knowledge of how to act in the role of acarya, unnecessarily criticize the activities of the ISKCON movement in countries outside of India. The fact is that such critics cannot do anything personally to spread Krsna consciousness. If someone does go and preach, taking all risks and allowing all considerations for time and place, it might be that there are changes in the manner of worship, but that is not at all faulty according to sastra. Srimad Viraraghava Acarya, an acarya in the disciplic succession of the Ramanuja-sampradaya, has remarked in his commentary that candalas, or conditioned souls who are born in lower than sudra families, can also be initiated according to circumstances. The formalities may be slightly changed here and there to make them Vaisnavas.
68-06-12. Letter: whom it may concern
In each center we have got hundreds of disciples and followers, and our initiated disciples are strictly following the restrictions as principle, as follows: (1) no illicit sex life, (2) no intoxication, including coffee, tea, and cigarettes, (3) no gambling, (4) no meat eating. We have got both Brahmacaris and Householders as disciples, and all of them are following the above mentioned principles. THE STUDENTS AND DISCIPLES ARE INITIATED ACCORDING TO AUTHORIZED PANCARATRIKI REGULATIONS. According to Srimad-Bhagavatam and Bhagavad-gita, anyone, including so-called low born men, who may take shelter unto the Lotus Feet of Lord Krishna or His devotees, is sanctified by initiation process.
kirata-hunandhra-pulinda-pulkasa
abhira-sumbha yavanah khasadayah
ye ‘nye ca papa yad-apasrayasrayah
sudhyanti tasmai prabhavisnave namah
How such thing can be possible is explained in the Srimad-Bhagavatam that by special all-pervading power of Visnu this is possible.
721027ND.VRN Lecture
So we are trying to follow Sanatana Gosvami. By diksa-vidhanena, by imitating persons any, from anywhere. It does not matter. Because in this age, Kali-yuga, the diksa-vidhana is performed according, according to Pancaratrika-vidhi. Not Vaidika-vidhi. Vaidika-vidhi is very strict. Unless one is bona fide son of a dvija, the initiation was not given. To the sudras, there was no initiation. A brahmana ksatriya, vaisya. So these are the Vedic process. SO IN THE KALI-YUGA, BECAUSE IT IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD THAT EVERYONE IS A SUDRA, THEREFORE VAIDIKA-VIDHANA CANNOT BE APPLIED. VAIDIKA-VIDHANA REQUIRES THAT ONE MUST BE BORN BY A BRAHMANA, KSATRIYA. THEN HE’S ELIGIBLE FOR BEING INITIATED. BUT IN THE KALI-YUGA, THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE. THEREFORE THE PANCARATRIKI-VIDHI IS ACCEPTED.
Kanistha adhikari is supposed to be in the mode of Goodness Sattva guna NOT on Visuddha Sattava platform which is Pure Goodness so he can NOT give Diksa. How can a Kanistha adhikari give diksa if he himself is not free from all material contamination?
Madhya 4.111 Sri Madhavendra Puri’ s Devotional Service:
Diksa actually means initiating a disciple with transcendental knowledge by which he becomes freed from all material contamination.
Note: If Kanistha adhikari could give this Diksa to another this means there would be no material contamination at all but he cannot do this. ONLY at Madhyama adhikari stage one can be initiated with transcendental Knowledge and become freed from ALL material contamination. It is mistakenly misunderstood that even Kanistha or Madhyama adhikari give diksa this is perhaps due to the understanding they CAN accept disciples. It is NOT stating that Madhyama or Kanistha can give Diksa.
Please see the quote below:
“In this verse Srila Rupa Gosvami advises the devotee to be intelligent enough to distinguish between the kanistha-adhikari, madhyama-adhikari and the uttama-adhikari. The devotee should also know his own position and should not try to imitate a devotee situated on a higher platform. Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura has given some practical hints to the effect that an uttama-adhikari Vaisnava can be recognized by his ability to convert many fallen souls to Vaisnavism. One should not become a spiritual master unless he has attained the platform of uttama-adhikari. A neophyte Vaisnava or a Vaisnava situated on the intermediate platform can also accept disciples, but such disciples must be on the same platform, and it should be understood that they cannot advance very well toward the ultimate goal of life under his insufficient guidance. THEREFORE A DISCIPLE SHOULD BE CAREFUL TO ACCEPT AN UTTAMA-ADHIKARI AS A SPIRITUALMASTER.” (Purport, Nectar of Instruction)
The 3rd Offence in chanting is to DISOBEY the Spiritual master so in EITHER case if one becomes a spiritual master without being QUALIFIED as Uttama Adhikari(Maha-Bhagavata) he will be committing offense and if he accepts one who is NOT QUALIFIED to Uttama adhikari stage he will commit offense in the chanting of the holy name. In BOTH cases their spiritual life is FINISHED!
Caitanya-caritamrta Madhya 8.274 – Talks Between Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Ramananda Raya:
sthavara-jangama dekhe, na dekhe tara murti
sarvatra haya nija ista-deva-sphurti
SYNONYMS sthavara-jangama–movable and inert; dekhe–he sees; na–not; dekhe–sees; tara–its; murti–form; sarvatra–everywhere; haya–there is; nija–his own; ista-deva–worshipable Lord; sphurti–manifestation.
TRANSLATION “The maha-bhagavata, the advanced devotee, certainly sees everything mobile and immobile, but he does not exactly see their forms. Rather, everywhere he immediately SEES manifest the form of the Supreme Lord.
PURPORT Due to his deep ecstatic love for Krsna, the maha-bhagavata SEES Krsna everywhere and nothing else. This is confirmed in the Brahma-samhita (5.38): premanjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena santah sadaiva hrdayesu vilokayanti.
As soon as a devotee sees something–be it movable or inert–he immediately remembers Krsna.”
NoD 8 Offenses to Be Avoided
The offenses against the chanting of the holy name are as follows: (3) To disobey the orders of the spiritual master.
Note: Diksa is illustrated graphically here Vasudeva was on Suddha sattva platform this is why from him Krsna is transferred to Devaki
SB 10.2.18 Prayers by the Demigods for Lord Krsna in the Womb:
Thereafter, accompanied by plenary expansions, the fully opulent Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is all-auspicious for the entire universe, was transferred from the mind of Vasudeva to the mind of Devaki. Devaki, having thus been initiated by Vasudeva, became beautiful by carrying Lord Krsna, the original consciousness for everyone, the cause of all causes, within the core of her heart, just as the east becomes beautiful by carrying the rising moon.
PURPORT: As indicated here by the word manastah, the Supreme Personality of Godhead was transferred from the core of Vasudeva’s mind or heart to the core of the heart of Devaki. We should note carefully that the Lord was transferred to Devaki not by the ordinary way for a human being, but by diksa, initiation. Thus the importance of initiation is mentioned here. Unless one is initiated by the right person, who always carries within his heart the Supreme Personality of Godhead, one cannot acquire the power to carry the Supreme Godhead within the core of one’s own heart.
SB 8.5.29 P The Demigods Appeal to the Lord for Protection:
Sattvam visuddham vasudeva-sabditam (Bhag. 4.3.23). In this material world, the three modes of material nature–goodness, passion and ignorance–prevail. Among these three, goodness is the platform of knowledge, and passion brings about a mixture of knowledge and ignorance, but the mode of ignorance is full of darkness. Therefore the Supreme Personality of Godhead is beyond darkness and passion. He is on the platform where goodness or knowledge is not disturbed by passion and ignorance. This is called the vasudeva platform. It is on this platform of vasudeva that Vasudeva, or Krsna, can appear.
SB 5.3.20 P Rsabhadeva’ s Appearance in the Womb of Merudevi, the Wife of King Nabhi:
Lord Visnu descends in His suddha-sattva form. Suddha-sattva refers to the sattva-guna which is never contaminated. In this material world, even the mode of goodness (sattva-guna) is contaminated by tinges of rajo-guna and tamo-guna. When sattva-guna is never contaminated by rajo-guna and tamo-guna, it is called suddha-sattva. Sattvam visuddham vasudeva-sabditam (Bhag. 4.3.23). That is the platform of vasudeva, whereby the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Vasudeva, can be experienced.
Note: Karma is taken by UTTAMA-ADHAKARI. Only he can DELIVER by definition. ‘uttama-adhikārī’ sei tāraye saṁsāra
Madhya 22.65 The Process of Devotional Service:
śāstra-yuktye sunipuṇa, dṛḍha-śraddhā yāṅra
‘uttama-adhikārī’ sei tāraye saṁsāra
SYNONYMS: uttama-adhikārī—the topmost devotee; sei—he; tāraye saṁsāra—can deliver the whole world.
Srila Prabhupada delivers. He GIVES Diksa. Formalities of initiation are done by his Ritvik Representatives.
Srila Prabhupada: “continue to become ritvik and act on my behalf.” (July 31, 1977)
Letter July 9th: Srila Prabhupada indicated that soon He would appoint some of His senior disciples to act as ritvik – representative of the acarya, for the purpose of performing initiations, both first initiation and second initiation. Now that Srila Prabhupada has named these representatives, Temple Presidents may henceforward send recommendation for first and second initiation to whichever of these eleven representatives are nearest their temple. After considering the recommendation, these representatives may accept the devotee as an initiated disciple of Srila Prabhupada by giving a spiritual name, or in the case of second initiation, by chanting on the Gayatri thread, just as Srila Prabhupada has done. The newly initiated devotees are disciples of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad, the above eleven senior devotees acting as His representative.
Note the word *representative* indicated below which was also mentioned in July 9th 1977 directive.
Caitanya-caritamrta, Madhya 24.330: “Similarly, a disciple’s qualifications must be observed by the spiritual master before he is accepted as a disciple. In our Krsna consciousness movement, the requirement is that one must be prepared to give up the four pillars of sinful life-illicit sex, meat-eating, intoxication and gambling. In Western countries especially, we first observe whether a potential disciple is prepared to follow the regulative principles. Then he is given the name of a Vaisnava servant and initiated to chant the Hare Krsna maha-mantra, at least sixteen rounds daily. In this way the disciple renders devotional service under the guidance of the spiritual master or his representative for at least six months to a year. He is then recommended for a second initiation, during which a sacred thread is offered and the disciple is accepted as a bona fide brahmana.”
Note: we know that without becoming a Maha-bhagavata it is an offense against the chanting of the holy name (3rd offense in chanting) to be worshipped as good as God (Acarya). Ritvik –the representative of the acarya allows for this function of worshipping the acarya (Prabhupada) without slaughtering the spiritual lives of others.
“When one has attained the topmost position of maha-bhagavata, he is to be accepted as a guru and worshiped exactly like Hari, the Personality of Godhead. Only such a person is eligible to occupy the post of a guru.”
Srila Prabhupada is revealing his position as the Jagad-guru (Spiritual Master of the entire world). It is Srila Prabhupada that has distributed the Holy Name (thru his books) all over the world. Krishna is His pure devotee Prabhupada’s property to give.
Caitanya-caritamrta, Antya 7.12: “Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura explains that unless one is directly empowered by the causeless mercy of Kṛṣṇa, one cannot become the spiritual master of the entire world (jagad-guru). One cannot become an ācārya simply by mental speculation. The true ācārya presents Kṛṣṇa to everyone by preaching the holy name of the Lord throughout the world. Thus the conditioned souls, purified by chanting the holy name, are liberated from the blazing fire of material existence. In this way, spiritual benefit grows increasingly full, like the waxing moon in the sky. The true ācārya, the spiritual master of the entire world, must be considered an incarnation of Kṛṣṇa’s mercy. indeed, he is personally embracing Kṛṣṇa. HE IS THEREFORE THE SPIRITUAL MASTER OF ALL THE VARṆAS (BRĀHMAṆA, KṢATRIYA, VAIŚYA AND ŚŪDRA) AND ALL THE ĀŚRAMAS (BRAHMACARYA, GṚHASTHA, VĀNAPRASTHA AND SANNYĀSA). SINCE HE IS UNDERSTOOD TO BE THE MOST ADVANCED DEVOTEE, HE IS CALLED PARAMAHAṀSA-ṬHĀKURA. ṬHĀKURA IS A TITLE OF HONOR OFFERED TO THE PARAMAHAṀSA. THEREFORE ONE WHO ACTS AS AN ĀCĀRYA, DIRECTLY PRESENTING LORD KṚṢṆA BY SPREADING HIS NAME AND FAME, IS ALSO TO BE CALLED PARAMAHAṀSA-ṬHĀKURA.“
This July 9th 1977 letter was never revoked by Srila Prabhupada. This being the case, all the newly initiated devotees are disciples of his Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada for as long as ISKCON exists.
July 11th, 1977 – “A letter has been sent to all the Temple Presidents and GBC which you should be receiving soon describing the process for initiation to be followed in the future. Srila Prabhupada has appointed thus far eleven representatives who will initiate new devotees on His behalf.”
(Letter from Tamala Krishna Goswami to Kirtananda describing the above system) July 19th, 1977 – “Make your own field and continue to be Ritvik and act on my charge.” (Room Conversation, above dictated by Srila Prabhupada to his secretary Tamala Krishna Goswami)
July 31st, 1977 – “Make your own field and continue to become ritvik and act on my behalf.”
(Above dictation sent out to Hamsaduta by Tamala Krishna in a letter) Nov 1977 – “The system of management will continue as it is now and there is no need of any change.”
(Srila Prabhupada’s Last Will and Testament, which now comes into force for the lifetime of ISKCON)
Nov 1977 – “In the event of death or failure to act for any reason of any of the said directors, a successor director or directors may be appointed by the remaining directors, provided the new director is my initiated disciple …”
(Srila Prabhupada’s Last Will and Testament, which now comes into force for the lifetime of ISKCON. The above system of selecting directors can only work if Srila Prabhupada’s initiated disciples exist throughout ISKCON’s lifetime.)
1) WHY did Srila Prabhupada ARRANGE to have his OWN murti in ALL the temples in ISKCON for worshiping during Guru Puja UNLESS he was GIVER OF the DIVYA Jnana hrdaya prakasito HE GIVES DIVYA JNANA (DIKSA) ONLY a MAHABHAGAVATA is accepted as Worshipable Diksa Guru as per Caitanya Caritamrta Madhya 24.330. Srila Prabhuapada is THE ACARYA of ISKCON.
NOTE: It is ONLY ACARYA that can give DIKSA because even in NOD this is stated REGARDING ACCEPTING INITIATION from the spiritual master it refers to SB 11.17.27 which is ACARYA.
Nectar of Devotion 7 — Evidence Regarding Devotional Principles
REGARDING ACCEPTING INITIATION from the spiritual master, in the Eleventh Canto of Srimad-Bhagavatam, Seventeenth Chapter, verse 27, it is stated by Lord Krsna, “My dear Uddhava, the spiritual master must be accepted not only as My representative, but as My very self. He must never be considered on the same level with an ordinary human being. One should never be envious of the spiritual master, as one may be envious of an ordinary man. The spiritual master should always be seen as the representative of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and by serving the spiritual master one is able to serve all the demigods.”
Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.7.15 Purport — Indra Offends His Spiritual Master, Brhaspati:
“By the mercy of the spiritual master one is benedicted by the mercy of Krsna. Without the grace of the spiritual master, one cannot make any advancement.” A disciple should never be a hypocrite or be unfaithful to his spiritual master. In Srimad-Bhagavatam (11.17.27), THE SPIRITUAL MASTER IS ALSO CALLED ACARYA. Acaryam mam vijaniyan: the Supreme Personality of Godhead says that one should respect the spiritual master, accepting him as the Lord Himself. Navamanyeta karhicit: one should not disrespect the acarya at any time. Na martya-buddhyasuyeta: one should never think the acarya an ordinary person. Familiarity sometimes breeds contempt, but one should be very careful in one’s dealings with the acarya. Agadha-dhisanam dvijam: the acarya is a perfect brahmana and has unlimited intelligence in guiding the activities of his disciple.
2) Srila Prabhupada put it DELIBERATELY in all his books FOUNDER-ACARYA. Srila Prabhupada did NOT say he was only ISKCON founder. There is HYPHEN in between the words Founder AND Acarya which indicates HE IS ALSO ITS CURRENT ACARYA.
3) There is ALSO the FACT that ONLY INITIATED DISCIPLE will be Director. This means HE wanted to REMAIN the INITIATOR for the EXISTENCE of the society: Other WILL Srila Prabhupada’s Will The executive directors who have herein been designated are appointed for life. In the event of death or failure to act for any reason of any of the said directors, a successor director or directors may be appointed by the remaining directors, provided the new director is MY INITIATED DISCIPLE following strictly all the rules and regulations of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness as detailed in my books, and provided that there are never less than three (3) or more than five (5) exeutive directors acting at one time.
4) 75-08-04. Letter: Madhudvisa: The GBC should all be the instructor gurus. I AM IN THE INITIATOR GURU, and you should be the instructor guru by teaching what I am teaching and doing what I am doing. This is not a title, but you must actually come to this platform. This I want.
680312iv.sf Conversations Prabhupada: Yes, I AM the spiritual master of this institution, and ALL the members of the society, they’re supposed to be MY disciples. They follow the rules and regulations which I ask them to follow, and they are initiated by me spiritually. So therefore the spiritual master is called guru. That is Sanskrit language.
5) Disciple belongs to whoever gives DISCIPLINE TO him: In ISKCON we are ALL being DISCIPLINED by Srila Prabhupada (we receive instructions (DISCIPLINE) FROM Srila Prabhupada’s books. Even the most basic discipline, 16 rounds of Hare Krishna Mantra and four Regulative Principles are coming FROM Srila Prabhupada. Common sense — if you ARE being disciplined BY Srila Prabhupada then it follows you ARE Srila Prabhupada’s disciple. How can it be otherwise?
The MEANING of the word “disciple”
Srila Prabhupada’s Morning Walk, March 8, 1976 in Mayapur:
Prabhupada: “Discipline… Disciple means discipline. The word discipline comes from disciple, or disciple comes from discipline. So unless there is discipline, there is no question of disciple. This discipline must… That should be uniform. Otherwise, sisya… sisya, the word sisya, it comes from the root, verb, sas-dhatu. sas. sas means ruling. From this word, sasana. Sasana means government. sastra. sashtra means weapon, and sastra, scripture, and sisya… These things have come from the one root sas-dhatu. So sas-dhatu means ruling under discipline. There is another English word, that “Obedience is the first law of discipline,” or something. They say, “Obedience is the first law of discipline”? So I am right? “Obedience is…”? That is the…
Tamala Krsna: Yes, that’s more or less what it is.
Prabhupada: No, what is the word, exact. There is an English word. “Obedience is the first law of discipline.” So unless there is obedience, there cannot be any discipline. And unless there is discipline, there is no question of disciple. DISCIPLE MEANS ONE WHO FOLLOWS DISCIPLINE.”
Discipline comes from Srila Prabhupada. We are actually being disciplined by Srila Prabhupada. It is Srila Prabhupada who has given us the regulative principles of no meat, fish or eggs; no intoxication (including tea and coffee), no illicit sex, and no gambling. It is Srila Prabhupada who has made it a regulative principle for us to chant sixteen rounds on the beads HARE KRSNA HARE KRSNA KRSNA KRSNA HARE HARE /HARE RAMA HARE RAMA RAMA RAMA HARE HARE.
Srila Prabhupada’s books contain all the instructions, the guidance required for us to get ourselves out of the clutches of the modes of material nature. In fact, Srila Prabhupada is personally present as his books.
Caitanya-caritamra, Adi 1, Text 35: “There is NO DIFFERENCE between the spiritual masters instructions and the spiritual master himself.”
Since the instructions of the spiritual master and the spiritual master are not different, one can be the disciple of Srila Prabhupada by following his discipline and can be considered Srila Prabhupada’s disciple. Another point is he can be considered both direct disciple and not direct simultaneously, because Srila Prabhupada is still present in his instruction form (his books). The following example will illustrate the point.
Srila Krsnadasa kaviraja is the example of both direct and not direct disciple simultaneously. (THE PHILOSOPHY OF SIMULTANEOUS ONENESS AND DIFFERENCE).
Caitanya-caritamra, Adi 1: “A direct disciple of Srila Rupa Gosvami was Srila Raghunatha dasa Gosvami. The author of Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Srila Krsnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami, stands as the DIRECT DISCIPLE of Srila Rupa Gosvami and Srila Raghunatha dasa Gosvami. The direct disciple of Srila Krsnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami was Srila Narottama dasa Thakura, who accepted Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti as his servitor. Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura accepted Srila Jagannatha dasa Babaji, who initiated Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, who in turn initiated Srila Gaurakishore dasa Babaji, the spiritual master of Om Visnupada Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Maharaja, the divine master of our humble self. Since we belong to this chain of disciplic succession from Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, this edition of Sri Caitanya-caritamrta will contain nothing newly manufactured by our tiny brains, but only remnants of food originally eaten by the Lord Himself.”
Caitanya-caritamra, Antya 19.102: Krsnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami was not actually a direct disciple of Srila Rupa Gosvami, but he FOLLOWED THE INSTRUCTIONS given by Srila Rupa Gosvami in Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu. He therefore ACTED ACCORDING TO THE DIRECTIONS of Rupa Gosvami and prayed in every chapter for his mercy.
6) Note: It is SUCCESSION MEANS to SUCCEED Srila Prabhupada is the LAST name in Disciplic Succession of ACARYAS: SB 3.29.17 P Explanation of Devotional Service by Lord Kapila In Bhagavad-gita, Thirteenth Chapter, it is clearly stated that one should execute devotional service and advance on the path of spiritual knowledge BY ACCEPTING THE ACARYA. Acaryopasanam: one should worship an acarya, a spiritual master who knows things as they are. THE SPIRITUAL MASTER MUST BE IN THE DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION FROM KRSNA. THE PREDECESSORS OF THE SPIRITUAL MASTER ARE HIS SPIRITUAL MASTER, HIS GRAND SPIRITUAL MASTER, HIS GREAT-GRAND SPIRITUAL MASTER AND SO ON, WHO FORM THE DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION OF ACARYAS.
68-02-13. Letter: Upendra
My Guru Maharaja was in the 10th generation from Lord Caitanya. We are 11th from Lord Caitanya. The disciplic sucession is as follows: 1. Sri Krishna, 2. Brahma, 3. Narada, 4. Vyasa, 5. Madhva, 6. Padmanabha, 7. Nrihari, 8. Madhava, 9. Akshobhya, 10. Jayatirtha, 11. Jnanasindhu, 12. Purusottama, 13. Vidyanidhi, 14. Rajendra, 15. Jayadharma, 16. Purusottama, 17. Vyasatirtha, 18. Laksmipati, 19. Madhavendra Puri, 20. Isvara Puri (Advaita, Nityananda) 21. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, 22. (Svarupa, Sanatana) Rupa, 23.(Jiva) Raghunath, 24. Krishna dasa, 25. Narottama, 26. Visvanatha, 27. (Baladeva.) Jagannatha, 28. (Bhaktivinode) Gaura-kisora, 29. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati, Sri Barshabhanavidayitadas, 30. SRI SRIMAD BHAKTIVEDANTA.
7) Note: It is ONLY Srila Prabhupada that fulfills the WORLD ACARYA position: Madhya 25.9 How All the Residents of Varanasi Became Vaisnavas “In Dvapara-yuga, devotees of Lord Visnu and Krsna rendered devotional service according to the principles of pancaratrika. In this Age of Kali, the Supreme Personality of Godhead is worshiped simply by the chanting of His holy names.» Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura then comments: “Without being empowered by the direct potency of Lord Krsna to fulfill His desire and without being specifically favored by the Lord, NO HUMAN BEING CAN BECOME THE SPIRITUAL MASTER OF THE WHOLE WORLD. He certainly cannot succeed by mental concoction, which is not meant for devotees or religious people. Only an empowered personality can distribute the holy name of the Lord and enjoin all fallen souls to worship Krsna. By distributing the holy name of the Lord, he cleanses the hearts of the most fallen people; therefore he extinguishes the blazing fire of the material world. Not only that, he broadcasts the shining brightness of Krsna’s effulgence throughout the world. Such an acarya, or spiritual master, should be considered nondifferent from Krsna-that is, he should be considered the incarnation of Lord Krsna’s potency. Such a personality is krsnalingita-vigraha-that is, he is always embraced by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krsna. Such a person is above the considerations of the varnasrama institution. HE IS THE GURU OR SPIRITUAL MASTER FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD, A DEVOTEE ON THE TOPMOST PLATFORM, THE MAHA-BHAGAVATA STAGE, AND A PARAMAHAMSA-THAKURA, A SPIRITUAL FORM ONLY FIT TO BE ADDRESSED AS PARAMAHAMSA OR THAKURA.”
8) Note: ONLY Srila Prabhupada will lay claim to be PROMINENT ACARYA to be FOLLOWED because of his books,cds,tapes, disciples, temples so extensive over the world for FUTURE generations OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS:
68-04-12. Letter: Dayananda Regarding parampara system: THERE IS NOTHING TO WONDER FOR BIG GAPS. Just like we belong to the Brahma Sampradaya, so we accept it from Krishna to Brahma, Brahma to Narada, Narada to Vyasadeva, Vyasadeva to Madhva, and between Vyasadeva and Madhva there is a big gap. But it is sometimes said that Vyasadeva is still living, and Madhva was fortunate enough to meet him directly. In a similar way, we find in the Bhagavad-gita that the Gita was taught to the sungod, some millions of years ago, but Krishna has mentioned only three names in this parampara system–namely, Vivasvan, Manu, and Iksvaku; and SO THESE GAPS DO NOT HAMPER FROM UNDERSTANDING THE PARAMPARA SYSTEM. WE HAVE TO PICK UP THE PROMINENT ACARYA, AND FOLLOW FROM HIM. There are many branches also from the parampara system, and it is not possible to record all the branches and sub-branches in the disciplic succession. WE HAVE TO PICK UP FROM THE AUTHORITY OF THE ACHARYA IN WHATEVER SAMPRADAYA WE BELONG TO.
9) Note: the Hare Krsna mantra is PURE DEVOTEE Srila Prabhupada’s Property to give and July 9th 1977 ORDER is simply discharge MANAGEMENT DUTY of giving conditioned souls Ritviks the privilege OF SERVICE to give Holy Name on BEHALF of PURE devotee Srila Prabhupada. The holy name is NOT conditioned souls property this is WHY it is given ON BEHALF of Srila Prabhupada:
SB 7.9.42 P Prahlada Pacifies Lord Nrsimhadeva with Prayers
Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura also sings, tumi ta’ thakura, tomara kukura, baliya janaha more: “O my Lord, O Vaisnava, please consider me your dog.” One must become the dog of a Vaisnava, A PURE DEVOTEE, FOR A PURE DEVOTEE CAN DELIVER KRSNA WITHOUT DIFFICULTY. KRSNA SE TOMARA, KRSNA DITE PARA. KRSNA IS THE PROPERTY OF HIS PURE DEVOTEE, AND IF WE TAKE SHELTER OF A PURE DEVOTEE, HE CAN DELIVER KRSNA VERY EASILY.
10) Note: the Ritvik System is SYSTEM OF MANAGEMENT so the issue of HOLY NAME to be given on BEHALF of Srila Prabhupada the PURE devotee MUST continue as per Srila Prabhupada’s ORDER: Other WILL Srila Prabhupada’s Will 2. Each temple will be an ISKCON property and will be managed by three executive directors. THE SYSTEM OF MANAGEMENT WILL CONTINUE AS IT IS NOW AND THERE IS NO NEED OF ANY CHANGE.
11) Note: ONE INITIATOR Srila Prabhupada.There may be many spiritual masters who instruct, but the initiator spiritual master is one. Holy Name is given ON BEHALF of Srila Prabhupada by Ritvik REPRESENTATIVES:
KB 80 The Meeting of Lord Krsna with Sudama Brahmana
Our next spiritual master is he who initiates us into transcendental knowledge, and he is to be worshiped as much as I am. The spiritual master may be more than one. The spiritual master who instructs the disciples about spiritual matters is called siksa-guru, and the spiritual master who initiates the disciple is called diksa-guru. Both of them are My representatives. THERE MAY BE MANY SPIRITUAL MASTERS WHO INSTRUCT, BUT THE INITIATOR SPIRITUAL MASTER IS ONE.
12) Note: ONLY the Mahabhagavata Srila Prabhupada is to be ACCEPTED as Diksa Guru otherwise it is 3rd OFFENSE in chanting: NoD 8 Offenses to Be Avoided The offenses against the chanting of the holy name are as follows: (3) TO DISOBEY THE ORDERS OF THE SPIRITUAL MASTER.
Madhya 24.330 The Sixty-One Explanations of the Atmarama Verse
MAHA-BHAGAVATA-srestho
brahmano vai gurur nrnam
sarvesam eva lokanam
asau pujyo yatha harih
maha-kula-prasuto ‘pi
sarva-yajnesu diksitah
sahasra-sakhadhyayi ca
na guruh syad avaisnavah
((The guru MUST be situated on the topmost platform of devotional service. There are three classes of devotees, and the guru MUST be accepted from the topmost class. The first-class devotee is the spiritual master for all kinds of people.
Purport: ”When one has attained the topmost position of maha-bhagavata, he is to be accepted as a guru and worshiped exactly like Hari, the Personality of Godhead. ONLY SUCH A PERSON IS ELIGIBLE TO OCCUPY THE POST OF A GURU.))”
Diksa Process: 1ST AND 2ND INITIATIONS GIVEN ON BEHALF OF SRILA PRABHUPADA THE -ONE- INITIATOR BY THE (RITVIK) REPRESENTATIVE :
13) Note: OR HIS REPRESENTATIVE is the Ritvik Representative as per July 9th 1977 Order
Madhya 24.330 The Sixty-One Explanations of the Atmarama Verse
Similarly, a disciple’s qualifications must be observed by the spiritual master before he is accepted as a disciple. IN OUR KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS MOVEMENT, THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT ONE MUST BE PREPARED TO GIVE UP THE FOUR PILLARS OF SINFUL LIFE-ILLICIT SEX, MEAT-EATING, INTOXICATION AND GAMBLING. IN WESTERN COUNTRIES ESPECIALLY, WE FIRST OBSERVE WHETHER A POTENTIAL DISCIPLE IS PREPARED TO FOLLOW THE REGULATIVE PRINCIPLES. THEN HE IS GIVEN THE NAME OF A VAISNAVA SERVANT AND INITIATED TO CHANT THE HARE KRSNA MAHA-MANTRA, AT LEAST SIXTEEN ROUNDS DAILY. In this way the disciple renders devotional service under the guidance of the spiritual master OR HIS REPRESENTATIVE FOR AT LEAST SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR. HE IS THEN RECOMMENDED FOR A SECOND INITIATION, DURING WHICH A SACRED THREAD IS OFFERED AND THE DISCIPLE IS ACCEPTED AS A BONA FIDE BRAHMANA.
14) Note: Ritvik can be replaced if he has a falldown:
770528me.vrn Conversations Tamala Krsna: Of course, IF SOMEONE HAS A FALLDOWN, just like in the past some GBC men have fallen down… Prabhupada: HE SHOULD BE REPLACED. Tamala Krsna: Then he should be replaced. But that’s a serious falldown, not some minor discrepancy. Prabhupada: THEY MUST BE ALL IDEAL ACARYA-LIKE. IN THE BEGINNING WE HAVE DONE FOR WORKING. Now we should be very cautious. ANYONE WHO IS DEVIATING, HE CAN BE REPLACED.
Note: Srila Prabhupada is the ONE initiatior:
Adi 1.99 The Spiritual Masters One of the bhagavatas is the great scripture Srimad-Bhagavatam, and the other is the pure devotee absorbed in the mellows of loving devotion.
Adi 1.100 The Spiritual Masters Through the actions of THESE TWO BHAGAVATAS THE LORD INSTILLS THE MELLOWS OF TRANSCENDENTAL LOVING SERVICE INTO THE HEART OF A LIVING BEING, and thus the Lord, in the heart of His devotee, comes under the control of the devotee’s love.
Note: Does it say VAPU is the requirement – NO! Vapuvadis have CONCOCTED you need VAPU for transmission of DIKSA
SB 1.7.22 P The Son of Drona Punished
The spiritual master, BY HIS WORDS, CAN PENETRATE INTO THE HEART OF THE SUFFERING PERSON AND INJECT KNOWLEDGE TRANSCENDENTAL, which alone can extinguish the fire of material existence.
Adi 1.35 The Spiritual Masters
THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SPIRITUAL MASTER’S INSTRUCTIONS AND THE SPIRITUAL MASTER HIMSELF. In his absence, therefore, his words of direction should be the pride of the disciple.
690113LE.LA Lectures
Similarly, arcye sila-dhir gurusu na… Gurusu means those who are acaryas, to accept their body as ordinary man’s body, this is denied in the sastras. SO ALTHOUGH A PHYSICAL BODY IS NOT PRESENT, THE VIBRATION SHOULD BE ACCEPTED AS THE PRESENCE OF THE SPIRITUAL MASTER, VIBRATION. WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE SPIRITUAL MASTER, THAT IS LIVING.
Note: ONE INITIATOR Srila Prabhupada.There may be many spiritual masters who instruct, but the initiator spiritual master is one.
KB 80 The Meeting of Lord Krsna with Sudama Brahmana
Our next spiritual master is he who initiates us into transcendental knowledge, and he is to be worshiped as much as I am. The spiritual master may be more than one. The spiritual master who instructs the disciples about spiritual matters is called siksa-guru, and the spiritual master who initiates the disciple is called diksa-guru. Both of them are My representatives. There may be many spiritual masters who instruct, BUT THE INITIATOR SPIRITUAL MASTER IS ONE.
SRILA PRABHUPADA IS OUR CURRENT LINK
SB 2.9.8: THE POTENCY OF TRANSCENDENTAL SOUND IS NEVER MINIMIZED BECAUSE THE VIBRATOR IS APPARENTLY ABSENT. Therefore SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM or Bhagavad-gitä or any revealed scripture in the world is never to be accepted as an ordinary mundane sound without transcendental potency.
Srila Prabhupada and his words are on the transcendental platform therefore his PURPORTS to the SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM is the CURRENT LINK. AS LONG AS WE HAVE PRABHUPADA’S PURPORTS TO THE SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM HE WILL BE OUR CURRENT LINK BECAUSE **THE REAL** MESSAGE OF SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM ARE **HIS** PURPORTS.
Note: Srila Prabhupada’s words of direction ARE HIS PURPORTS AND There is NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SPIRITUAL MASTER’S INSTRUCTIONS AND THE SPIRITUAL MASTER HIMSELF.
ADI 1.35: There is NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SPIRITUAL MASTER’S INSTRUCTIONS AND THE SPIRITUAL MASTER HIMSELF. In his absence, THEREFORE, HIS WORDS OF DIRECTION SHOULD BE THE PRIDE OF THE DISCIPLE.
Note: the CURRENT LINK is Srila Prabhupada’s Srimad Bhagavatam PURPORTS – Srila Prabhupada is NOT different from his purports:
SB 2.9.7 As already stated, Brahmä is the original spiritual master for the universe, and since he was initiated by the Lord Himself, the MESSAGE OF SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM IS COMING DOWN BY DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION, and in order to receive THE REAL MESSAGE OF SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM one should approach THE CURRENT LINK, or spiritual master, in the chain of disciplic succession.
73-12-25.Letter: Gurukrpa , Yasodanandana
Whatever is to be learned of the teachings of Srila Bhaktivinode Thakura can be learned from our books. THERE IS NO NEED WHATSOEVER FOR ANY OUTSIDE INSTRUCTION.
74-11-22. Letter: Bahurupa
I am pleased to hear that you are chanting 16 rounds daily and reading my books regularly and following the four rules. IN MY BOOKS THE PHILOSOPHY OF KRISHNA CONSCIOUSNESS IS EXPLAINED FULLY SO IF THERE IS ANYTHING WHICH YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND, THEN YOU SIMPLY HAVE TO READ AGAIN AND AGAIN. BY READING DAILY THE KNOWLEDGE WILL BE REVEALED TO YOU AND BY THIS PROCESS YOUR SPIRITUAL LIFE WILL DEVELOP.
75-09-18. Letter: Babhru, Satyaki
PLEASE CONTINUE READING MY BOOKS SERIOUSLY AND EVERYTHING WILL BE REVEALED TO YOU.
74-11-22. Letter: Hugo Salemon
So far your worship of Lord Jagannatha in your home and your becoming initiated. It is alright provided you have the recommendation of the temple president. I am very glad to see that such a young boy as yourself you are taking serious interest in this Krishna Consciousness Movement. Please continue in this way Our process is something universal. It cannot be checked by any means. Anyone in any place, in any country can chant Hare Krishna. If it is possible to go to the temple, then take advantage of the temple. A temple is a place where by one is given the opportunity to render direct devotional service to the Supreme Lord Sri Krishna. IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS YOU SHOULD ALWAYS READ MY BOOKS DAILY AND ALL YOUR QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED AND YOU WILL HAVE A FIRM BASIS OF KRISHNA CONSCIOUSNESS. IN THIS WAY YOUR LIFE WILL BE PERFECT.
730513mw.la Conversations
Paramahamsa: Srila Prabhupada, when you are not present with us, how is it possible to receive instructions, for example, on questions that may arise?
Prabhupada: Well, the questions… ANSWERS ARE THERE IN MY BOOKS.
Paramahamsa: Other than that, for example, that we would ask you in…
Prabhupada: Yes.
Paramahamsa: DO YOU DIRECT US ALSO THROUGH THE HEART? BESIDES THE PARAMATMA?
Prabhupada: IF YOUR HEART IS PURE. EVERYTHING DEPENDS ON PURITY.
740615rc.par Conversations
Yogesvara: “Is there some, any qualities, in the sense that some people have more receptivity towards the divine than other people?”
Prabhupada: Yes. That I explained, sattva-guna, rajo-guna, tamo-guna. Those who are in sattva-guna, they can understand easily. Those who are in rajo-guna, they have got difficulty. AND THOSE WHO ARE IN TAMO-GUNA, THEY CANNOT. (French)
Conclusion:
75-08-04. Letter: Madhudvisa:
The GBC should all be the instructor gurus. I AM IN THE INITIATOR GURU, and you should be the instructor guru by teaching what I am teaching and doing what I am doing. This is not a title, but you must actually come to this platform. This I want.
“I AM THE SPIRITUAL MASTER OF THIS INSTITUTION, AND ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE SOCIETY, THEY’RE SUPPOSED TO BE MY DISCIPLES. They follow the rules and regulations which I ask them to follow, AND THEY ARE INITIATED BY ME SPIRITUALLY.”(Srila Prabhupada Radio Interview, 12/3/1968)
“Guru-mukha-padma-vakya, cittete koriya aikya, ara na koriho mane asa. Don’t think of any nonsense. Simply execute what your guru has said. That is success.”
(28th January, 1977, Room Conversation)
“We request you to chant HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA, KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE, HARE RAMA HARE RAMA, RAMA RAMA HARE HARE, and your life will be sublime.”
ys Mahesh
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=41422
Kiedyś czytałem na prabhupadanugas.eu, co Śrila Prabhupada powiedział swojemu uczniowi :
Wszyscy czytający książki Śrila Prabhupada są inicjowani przez Śrila Prabhupada.
Ze względu na mój stan zdrowia spowodowany chorobą, taka inicjacja jest dla mnie wystarczająca.
Czytam książki Śrila Prabhupada od 1983 r..
Czytam artykuły i komentarze na prabhupadanugas.eu od 2010 r..
I once read on prabhupadanugas.eu what Srila Prabhupada told his disciple:
All those who read Srila Prabhupada’s books are initiated by Srila Prabhupada.
Due to my health condition caused by illness, this initiation is sufficient for me.
I have been reading Srila Prabhupada’s books since 1983.
I have been reading articles and comments on prabhupadanugas.eu since 2010.
Zadałem pytanie :
Czy bhaktowie aktywni na prabhupadanugas.eu, są atakowani przez wielki złowrogi ruch ?
Bo często bardzo źle się czuje, zwłaszcza w nocy, po aktywności na prabhupadanugas.eu.
Bo już wiem, że często po aktywności na prabhupadanugas.eu, jestem atakowany przez niewidoczne istoty demoniczne.
I asked a question :
Are devotees active on prabhupadanugas.eu being attacked by a great evil movement?
Because I often feel very bad, especially at night, after being active on prabhupadanugas.eu.
Because I already know that often after being active on prabhupadanugas.eu, I am attacked by invisible demonic beings.
Personally I try to be off the Internet and gadgets by 8 p.m. There is something with the light frequency which disturbs the mind. Router and Modem are switched off at night. Than I read some in the Books and in no time one falls asleep. As for the other stuff you are asking, we NEVER EVER had a problem with unwanted visitors, I guess they don’t even try since the incense smog is so thick it drives them away
Yes, there is always monitoring, tagging and tracking from demons as ‘technology’ including internet is ‘their domain’ and was only available for public use when they had ‘a back door’ to the information … this is why these androgynous demons like Gates and Zuckerburg (Rockerfeller) are active trying to ban, censure and shut down free speech on the web.
If one can just offer a leaf/flower or water to the Supreme Lord Krishna, read Srila Prabhupada’s books this will insure that you are protected from any demonic influence, which will go away by just chanting the Hare Krishna Maha Mantra as this sound vibration WILL DESTROY THEIR INFLUENCE!
Waldemar says: Are devotees active on prabhupadanugas.eu being attacked by a great evil movement?
Because I often feel very bad, especially at night, after being active on prabhupadanugas.eu.
Because I already know that often after being active on prabhupadanugas.eu, I am attacked by invisible demonic beings.
Mahesh: Srila Prabhupada gives this advise:
740412mw.bom Conversations
Prabhupada: Evil spirit everyone believes, every country. In London there are so many ghosts. When I was in John Lennon’s house, so they complained, “In this one house, every night a ghost comes.” You see? So I advised them “Chant Hare Krsna. It will go away.” Then it actually so happened.
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We request you to chant HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA, KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE, HARE RAMA HARE RAMA, RAMA RAMA HARE HARE, and your life will be sublime.
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Lord Ṛṣabhadeva’s on the superiority of Ghosts
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and Śrī Nārada Muni on shape-shifting hobgoblins
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Lord Ṛṣabhadeva’s Teachings to His Sons (S.B.5.5.21/22)
Of the two energies manifest [spirit and dull matter], beings possessing living force [vegetables, grass, trees and plants] are superior to dull matter [stone, earth, etc.]. Superior to nonmoving plants and vegetables are worms and snakes, which can move. Superior to worms and snakes are animals that have developed intelligence. Superior to animals are human beings, and superior to human beings are ghosts because they have no material bodies. Superior to ghosts are the Gandharvas, and superior to them are the Siddhas. Superior to the Siddhas are the Kinnaras, and superior to them are the asuras. Superior to the asuras are the demigods, and of the demigods, Indra, the King of heaven, is supreme. Superior to Indra are the direct sons of Lord Brahmā, sons like King Dakṣa, and supreme among Brahmā’s sons is Lord Śiva. Since Lord Śiva is the son of Lord Brahmā, Brahmā is considered superior, but Brahmā is also subordinate to Me, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Because I am inclined to the brāhmaṇas, the brāhmaṇas are best of all.
https://prabhupadabooks.com/sb/5/5/21-22
“…Superior to animals are human beings, and SUPERIOR TO HUMAN BEINGS ARE GHOSTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO MATERIAL BODY. Superior to ghosts are the Gandharvas, and superior to them are the Siddhas…”
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NARADA MUNI SAYS KAMSA AND HIS FRIENDS ARE HOBGOBLINS IN HUMAN FORM
CHAPTER 37
Killing the Keśī Demon and Vyomāsura
“After this incident, Nārada Muni, the greatest of all devotees, came to see Kṛṣṇa in a solitary place and began to talk with Him…..
….My dear Lord, You have advented Yourself on the surface of this earth just to kill all the so-called kings who are actually demons. >>>These HOBGOBLINS <<< are cheating people in the dress of the princely order…"
https://vedabase.io/en/library/kb/37/
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According to Propaganda-Wiki hobgoblins are mythological figures, nevertheless they pay their writers to elaborate on these mythological figures. If these are all mythological figures WHY TAKE SO MUCH TIME AND EFFORT TO EXPLAIN/DESCRIBE THEM*? IF ACCORDING TO THEM THEY ARE NONEXISTENT/FICTITIOUS/FAIRY TALES WHY BOTHER?
(*check the last update of the wiki articles and specifically take note of the pictures)
What are Hobgoblins? Shape-Shifters.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobgoblin
What are brownies? Shape-Shifters.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownie_(folklore)
What are boggarts? Shape-Shifters.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boggart
What do all of them have in common? They are shape-shifters.
What do all the demons in Krsna Book have in common? They are shape-shifters.
"SRI NARADA MUNI SAYS THAT THE SO-CALLED KINGS IN THE SHAPE OF KINGS ARE HOBGOBLINS"
Note: From this statement of Śrī Nārada Muni we can follow that,
so-called academia/doctors/experts who are cheating people in the shape of scientist/doctors/experts are HOBGOBLINS….
so-called BIG TECH/MONEY/FINANCE/ROYALTY who are cheating people out of their hard earned money are HOBGOBLINS…
so-called politicians who are cheating people in the shape of politicians are HOBGOBLINS…
OR THEY ARE POSSESSED BY GHOSTS…
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Ghosts are real
https://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=35735
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Ghost and spirits worship Lord Siva in the WHO Headoffice in Geneva
Sudarsana Prabhu comments to the picture
Note:
1 : Diety of Lord Shiva (at the head of WHO, boardroom table!)
2 : All Chinese present
3 : Tedros (second from right)
https://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=51917
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In many countries in the world, from Africa to the most technologically advanced nation of Japan, people worship ghosts and spirits and offer them alcohol and cigarettes. In Japan on every corner is a so-called Temple or Shrine but actually they are worshippers of the departed ancestors and weird spirits. According to The Bhagavad-Gītā As It Is that kind of worship is in the mode of ignorance. Have their wishes been granted and these superior beings have come back to haunt them?? It sure looks like it.
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Ghostly bodies are the punishment for sinful activities, that's why they court Lord Siva to somehow get again a gross body. Being superior to humans, as stated by Śrī Nārada Muni, they can either create disturbances or otherwise try to possess a suitable human beings mind and body. What do you think they want to enjoy?
Perversions https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satyr (pictures) of ALL kinds. That is why they are perverting the genders by law, science, politics etc. Is this not what we see these days? Who but not a human being can even come up with thoughts like that? Who but perverted beings in the Frankfurt school, the WEF, WHO, UN and their Finance Mafiosi, and, and, and…came up with all this crap? It's all about perverted sexology, gender-bender a la Klaws and Co, a la ghosts and hobgoblins, the ones who came from Lord Brahmas behind and wanted to devour, eat and feast on him.
Only the chanting of the Holy Names of the Lord will drive them away, everything else is as useful as rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic. That is our business and duty, to offer seva in our homes, with and for family and friends, cook nice foods for the Lord, worship the deity, discuss and distribute Śrīla Prabhupāda's books, recite prayers to the Lord, decorate the walls with pictures of the Lord, saturate the same with the smell of fragrant incense offered to the Lord and with the chanting of Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare/ Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare. Either one or all of this together. This way these sinful ghosts and sinful hobgoblins will go away, stay away and be driven back to where they came from, where they belong, deep down, underground, into the lower planetary systems, with no light, slimy and wet and can fight over the few worms and bugs they find in the dark.
5000 years into Kaliyuga the so-called human population is full of unclean habits, unclean thoughts, unclean bodies and unclean jobs. This is why these kinds of shape-shifting spirits, ghosts and hobgoblins have easy access to enter men's minds and bodies. If they were already able to do this, as Śrī Nārada Muni states, 5000 years ago, how much easier it is today?
As is stated by Lord Ṛṣabhadeva in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam above in 5.5.21/22
"Superior to animals are human beings, and SUPERIOR TO HUMAN BEINGS ARE GHOSTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO MATERIAL BODY. Superior to ghosts are the Gandharvas, and superior to them are the Siddhas.."
Since, according to Lord Ṛṣabhadeva statement Ghosts are superior to human beings this would explain the current state of the world, this explains the obviously superior intelligence at work, this explains the worship in the WHO picture of Lord Siva, this explains the gender perversions, this explains the obsession with eating bugs, this explains satanic child sacrifice, this explains the depopulation agenda, this explains their artificial, laboratory seminal in vitro creations of demonic androgynes, this explains the illusions. Working on the subtle plane this explains their limitless and unhindered infiltration into human society, their hate of man, woman and children, their envy of humans, in other words: THEIR CONTEMPT FOR EVERYONE WHO IS NOT LIKE THEM: A GHOST OR HOBGOBLIN. Because that is what they are after all. They are totally frustrated, totally unhappy and in the case of the hobgoblins, totally ugly living entities.
AND THIS EXPLAINS WHY SRILA PRABHUPADA SAW IT AS SO IMPORTANT TO PRINT KRSNA BOOK ( which is the essence of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam) IN 1970 AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE BEFORE HE DID ALL THE OTHER BOOKS!
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THE ESSENCE OF ALL LITERATURES, THE TENTH CANTO
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CC Antya 1.11
"I am now almost an invalid because of old age, and I know that at any moment I may die. Therefore I have already described some portions of the antya-līlā."
Purport
Following in the footsteps of Śrīla Kṛṣṇadāsa Kavirāja Gosvāmī, I am trying to translate Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam as quickly as possible. However, knowing myself to be an old man and almost an invalid because of rheumatism, I have already translated the essence of all literatures, the Tenth Canto of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, as a summary study in English. I started the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement at the age of seventy. Now I am seventy-eight, and so my death is imminent. I am trying to finish the translation of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam as soon as possible, but before finishing it, I have given my readers the book Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, so that if I die before finishing the whole task, they may enjoy this book, which is the essence of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam.
https://vedabase.io/en/library/cc/antya/1/11/
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(…and so we can pick up the clues to get the facts right about reality, about what is really going on)
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Some very interesting links there and from the information about the Greek and Roman demigods, mischievous entities hobgoblins and Satyrs (also Pagan demigods). This is very similar (if not identical) to what the Bhagavad Gita describes as ‘demigod worship’ which Srila Prabhupada’s Bhagavad Gita refers to as ‘worship of Asuras (Demons)!’ as many refer to the same entity such as for example the demigod of the sea Varuna (Vedic) = Poisidon (Greek) = Neptune (Roman) …. All carry a trident and so it is actually the same entity but described in a different language.
This link concerning Dionysus is an interesting one, as this influence of Dionysus been a strong influence by Tavistock, CIA and MI5/6 in the formation of the libertarian 60s and 70s Hippie movement (and also modern Rap!) with its repetitive beat (and rif) which causes the listener to become influenced by a trance-like, hypnotic, self indulgent mood which has a degrading, poisonous effect …. that of ‘blocking out’ the ‘the suddha sattvic energy of THE SUPREME LORD SRI KRISHNA’.
This paragraph describes it ………
In ancient Greek religion and myth, Dionysus (/daɪ.əˈnaɪsəs/; Ancient Greek: Διόνυσος Dionysos) is the god of wine-making, orchards and fruit, vegetation, fertility, festivity, insanity, ritual madness, religious ecstasy, and theatre.[2][3] He was also known as Bacchus (/ˈbækəs/ or /ˈbɑːkəs/; Ancient Greek: Βάκχος Bacchos) by the Greeks (a name later adopted by the Romans) for a frenzy he is said to induce called baccheia.[4] As Dionysus Eleutherius (“the liberator”), his wine, music, and ecstatic dance free his followers from self-conscious fear and care, and subvert the oppressive restraints of the powerful.[5] His thyrsus, a fennel-stem sceptre, sometimes wound with ivy and dripping with honey, is both a beneficent wand and a weapon used to destroy those who oppose his cult and the freedoms he represents.[6] Those who partake of his mysteries are believed to become possessed and empowered by the god himself.[7]
These descriptions such as INSANITY, RITUAL MADNESS, RELIGIOUS ECSTASY, ECSTATIC DANCE, FREEDOM FROM SELF CONSCIOUS FEAR AND CARE!
THOSE WHO PARTAKE OF ‘HIS MYSTERIES’ ARE BELIEVED TO BECOME POSSESSED AND EMPOWERED BY THE GOD HIMSELF!
THESE DESCRIPTIONS ABOVE, I BELIEVE ARE WHAT HAS REPLACED LORD CHAITANYA’S SANKIRTANA MOVEMENT! A CHEAP COPY OF SELF INDULGENT ‘MYSTICISM’ PROPAGATED BY ‘MYSTIC’ AND SATANIC ANDROGYNOUS FREEMASONS AND FAKE HIPPY MAYAVADI “KIRTANEERS” THESE DESCRIPTIONS SEEM TO BE WHAT IS CONTINUING TO POISON ISKCON!
IT CAN’T GET MUCH CLEARER THAN THAT!
Many thanks Mohini Mataji for posting this interesting information.
Pamho agtacbsp, SAPHALA EKADASI KI JAY , we already make ourselves to be recognised by accepting a material physical body to live in this dukhalayam asasvatam world by dealing with unknown therefore the evil is within ourselves which make this world even more complicated through enemies, we can see this temporary suffering very clearly when we get old anyway the menu is the same samsara tri klesa tri guna ahankara etc..and at the end just the soul and supersoul remains therefore we need to delete all the rest connected to this temporary suffering to remain just with God and real things because cheating is the nature of the relative material world, we practice this cleaness by chanting HKMM we sure we can remain always with the company of the supersoul because HE KNOWS IT ALL .agtacbsp ys haribol
Pamho agtacbsp, I wish to all these bogus guru to get dementia disease in this way they stop to create more trouble then SRI KRSNA SMARANA IS THE MOST EXALTED POINT IN OUR PHILOSOPHY BECAUSE JUST THAT CAN SAVE US AT THE MOMENT OF DEATH , that’s why the mind must be training always to think of SRI KRSNA by never forget HIM BECAUSE WHEN ONE FORGET KRSNA IS MATERIAL LIFE THE MOST DANGEROUS MOMENT IS TO BE OUTSIDE KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS AND SRI KRSNA SAY IN BG 15.15 SARVASYA HRDI SANNIVISTO MATTAH SMRTI JNANA APOHANAM CA we got the power of thinking but without KC have not value our thinking because is limited while krsna is unlimited SO WHATEVER WE DO WITHOUT KRSNA HAVE NO VALUE BECAUSE IT’S A UNWORTHY JOB , in the beginning there was HIM ONLY therefore everything got no value without krsna and everything is recorded in the mystical body of SRI ASAMAURDHAVAM SRI SYAMA-SUNDARAM ki Jay agtacbsp ys haribol
Dziękuję Prabhupadanugas za dane mi łaski i błogosławieństwa.
Thank you Prabhupadanugas for the graces and blessings given to me.
Pomoc w uwalnianiu się od Vaisnava aparadh i obraz, jest naprawdę bardzo dużą łaską i błogosławieństwem.
Helping one to be free from Vaishnava aparadh and offense is indeed a very great grace and blessing.
Czy Śri Krsna ukrywa chwały Śrila Prabhupada, przed początkującymi bhaktami, i przed ludźmi, i przed demonami ?
Is Sri Krsna hiding the glories of Srila Prabhupada, from beginner devotees, from humans and from demons?
This is all explained in Bhagavad Gita (As It Is) Chapter 4 verse 11 ……
Lord Sri Krishna says “All of them- as they surrender unto Me- I reward them accordingly……….”
Material (empirical) knowledge is ascending but transcendental knowledge is descending. This exchange with The Lord is reciprocal. Those who are envious of Lord Sri Krishna and do not want to reciprocate with Him, to that extent they remain in ignorance, darkness and void of knowledge. So the the glories of Srila Prabhupada are revealed or hidden due to the free-will or choice of the individual
Waldemar says: Is Sri Krsna hiding the glories of Srila Prabhupada, from beginner devotees, from humans and from demons?
Mahesh: Krsna reveals according to the proportion of ones surrender to Him:
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But Krsna is everywhere. Krsna… Andantara-stha paramanu-cayantara-stham. As Krsna is being described, Visnu, within this universe, so He is not only within the universe as Garbhodakasayi Visnu; He is within your heart also. Isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese ‘rjuna tisthati. And not only within your heart, but as many atoms are there, the composition of your body, in each atom He is there. Andantara-stha paramanu-cayantara-stham. So Krsna is everywhere. But why you cannot see? Antar-bahir-avasthitam. Krsna is within and without. If He is within every atom, then atoms are there, outside and inside. So antar-bahih, He is situated. Anyone can see Him, but He cannot be seen to the undevotee, not devotee. He cannot be… Nayam prakasah sarvasya yoga-maya-samavrtah. He is not exposed to everyone. He is simply exposed to the devotee. Premanjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena santah sadaiva hrdayesu vilokayan… The nondevotee cannot see. Naham prakasah sarvasya. Unless Krsna agrees to be seen, you cannot see. It is not possible. You cannot force Him to be seen by You. No, that is not possible. Svayam eva sphuraty adah. He… When He likes, He’ll be seen by you, not that you can force Him. You cannot say that “Now I am qualified. Krsna must come, and I’ll see Him.” That is not possible. We are never qualified unless Krsna agrees to be seen by you. This is the… Naham prakasah sarvasya yoga-maya-samavrtah: “Everyone cannot see Me.” Yoga-maya-samavrtah: “I am covered, I am veiled by the yoga-maya.” Yoga-maya will not allow you to see unless you are devotee. Therefore Krsna confirms this fact: bhaktya mam abhijanati yavan yas casmi tattvatah. If you want to know Krsna, God, as He is, then you must practice devotional life. Then He’ll be seen. Bhaktya mam, yavan yas casmi tattvatah. To know Krsna ordinarily–“Oh, Krsna was born in India, in Mathura. He’s the son of such and such, and He was very big man”–that is not tattvatah. Tattvatah means as He is, sac-cid-ananda vigrahah. Anadir adir govindah sarva-karana-karanam.
So for to know Krsna, there are so many Vedic literatures. So we have to know through the mercy of the spiritual master. Tad-vijnanartham sa gurum eva abhigacchet. Everything is there, just like Krsna is there in the Bhagavad-gita, but people could not understand Krsna. Now we are presenting Krsna as it is. People are understanding. They are becoming devotee. So we have to go through the right channel. Then we’ll know Krsna. And as soon as you know Krsna as He is, your life is successful. That is the aim and object of Krsna consciousness movement–simply to help the people to know Krsna.
SB 6.9.37 P Appearance of the Demon Vrtrasura
In Bhagavad-gita (4.11) the Lord says, ye yatha mam prapadyante tams tathaiva bhajamy aham: “As one surrenders unto Me, I reward him accordingly.”
40 lat życia, żeby zrozumieć, że sam jestem źródłem swoich problemów.
40 lat życia, żeby zrozumieć, że Śrila Prabhupada nie jest źródłem moich problemów.
Taka straszna strata czasu, żeby zrozumieć taką prostą i zasadniczą prawdę.
To jest rzeczywiście straszne, a nie jakieś straszne porno.
Zostało już jest mało czasu na dalszą naukę.
40 years of life to understand that I am the source of my problems.
40 years of life to understand that Srila Prabhupada is not the source of my problems.
Such a terrible waste of time to understand such a simple and fundamental truth.
This is actually scary, not some scary porn.
There is little time left for further learning.
Sriman Waldemar says:
“There is little time left for further learning”.
You are eternal, and Lord Sri Krishna is eternal so there is no meaning to ‘little time’ as there is no end point and no beginning point. Whenever your free will decides ….. that is the right point.
Don’t listen to your mind, but bring the mind under the control of the intelligence.
Find your own pace and stick to that! Take it easy or you will be overcome by the mode of passion by going too quick and the mode of ignorance by going too slow or procrastinating! Be kind to yourself and chant the Maha Mantra without being distracted. Practice makes perfect!
Hari bol Sudarsana Das Vanacari Prabhu
Biorę pod uwagę, że jestem poważnie chory.
Uczę się już robić jedynie to, co uważam za bezpieczne dla mojego zdrowia.
Jestem już wystarczająco szalony.
Wiem już, że Śrila Prabhupada jest źródłem łaski dla mnie.
Hari bol Sudarsana Das Vanacari Prabhu
I take into account that I am seriously ill.
I am now learning to do only what I consider safe for my health.
I’m crazy enough already.
I already know that Srila Prabhupada is the source of grace for me.