Prabhupada, July 13, 1974, Los Angeles: Now, the Revatinandana and this man and Syamasundara is making a clique. I can understand. What they are planning, that also I know. But I don’t wish to disclose it. So if these things come, then how this movement will go on? Politics, diplomacy, fraud, cheating, these are the general qualification of the western countries.
Jayatirtha: Sitting?
Prabhupada: Politics, diplomacy, fraud, cheating. These things are the general qualification of the western people. Do you admit or not?
Devotees: Yes.
Prabhupada: If they are, these things come within our movement, then it will not be succesful. Tat-paratvena nirmalam. One has to become purified. Even sometimes we have to take… But that is for Krishna’s. There must be now checking that all these rascals may not join and spoil the movement. You should not admit.
Bali Mardana: Yes.
Prabhupada: They can come and go.
Bali Mardana: We should not make a haven for rascals.
Prabhupada: Eh?
Bali Mardana: We should not create a haven for rascals.
Prabhupada: Yes. So how it will be done unless you GBC members become very strong and with good brain? Now, first of all save this situation. This is only solution, as I have suggested, that “The ratha must be there. We are not moving.” And take lawyers.
And the Deity will be moved. And we’ll come to the ratha and go back. That’s all. And we shall abide by all the rules. That’s all. They saw it that in open sunshine thousands of people, ten thousands of people or more than that, fifteen thousand people, they stood on the Trafalgar Square for three hours. And they do not go to the church. So they must have seen there is something. Otherwise, how people taken so much interest. And there is, actually.
Bali Mardana: Yes. Just like in the San Francisco paper they admitted, “This is the most popular festival.”
Prabhupada: Yes, yes. San Francisco also. Fifteen thousand people attended my lecture silently. So they are seeing now there is something in this movement, and if this movement, it is allowed to go on without any objection, then Christianity will be finished. That is the conspiracy behind it. That lecture is recorded? The, which I gave in the, that society of the priests and…
Satsvarupa: The fathers?
Prabhupada: Yes.
Satsvarupa: Yes, I…
Prabhupada: So you can hear that lecture, how it was. They appreciated so much. We have no disrespect for Christianity. (pause) At least, expose our so-called Indian ambassador and others… Approach them, that “Help us. What is this? What for you are here?” Even they do not allow by agitation, make the movement very important. Make profit this side or that side.
That is businessman. The businessman makes profit when the price is going down and when the price is going up. They make their profit. That is businessman. Just like our Tripurari, he goes on selling his book in any condition. He finds out some means how to sell in this condition.
This is intelligence, how to deal in different circumstances and make profit. That is brain. And if you make condition, “If these conditions are there, then I can make business,” that is foolishness.
Brahmananda: You told me that when I came from Pakistan to India. I was complaining how difficult it was, but you said that a businessman makes profit in any circumstances.
Prabhupada: Yes. That is business. They are… Police has no eyes to see that the Bala-Krishna (Guru Maharaji) is regularly cheating. Any man can understand.
Jayatirtha: Yes.
Prabhupada: There is no stoppage of that… Yes. And here, stoppage. Just see. It is clear conspiracy. It is not that police. Police cannot be so powerful that he can stop. If there was any discrepancy, why did not they take step that “You have done… You have violated the rules.” They should have prosecuted us. Now, without saying anything at that time, now want to stop it.
Jayatirtha: It’s just their tactic.
Prabhupada: It is tactic. They’re factually seeing that “These people, they have brought some Jagannatha and thousands of people following it. And nobody’s coming to our church?” It is very common sense thing. The church is being closed. And all the young men, they are joining. Not old men, old fools. No. All young, flourishing, young men are joining. So they want to stop it now. (pause) Take it.
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