"Perhaps too, in the minds of many devotees, confusion has been created as to whether Srila Prabhupada is an authority worth listening to or not."
“Foolishness of the Worst Kind”
BY: SURESH DASA
Oct 02, 2010 — LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA (SUN) — I find this very disconcerting. I attended the weekly Bhagavad-gita class last night at the ISKCON Laguna Beach Temple.
I noticed the temple president, who gives the class lecture each week, an erudite speaker and lecturer, does not read Srila Prabhupada’s purports to “Bhagavad-gita As It Is”, even though he is using the new BBT edited edition, authorized by ISKCON.
He told me after the class that he usually reads 4-5 translations each week to his students, but no purports. Instead he gives his own commentary on the translations, based on his readings of various Vaisnava literature authorized by ISKCON.
He told me he very rarely reads or has the class read any of Srila Prabhupada’s purports. He stated that Srila Prabhupada’s purports tend to disrupt the “flow” of the class.
This seems to be one of the dangers in editing and changing Srila Prabhupada’s books on the wholesale scale that has been done by the BBT. Perhaps in today’s ISKCON, Srila Prabhupada’s commentaries are no longer considered important, can be neglected, and ignored. Perhaps too, in the minds of many devotees, confusion has been created as to whether Srila Prabhupada is an authority worth listening to or not.
pamho agtacbsp just wait these demons in the guise of devotees to be destroy by their same sinful activities in neglecting srila prabhupada books by mislead innocent people with their false ego in the centre of iskcon ,i’m sorry but i stop to visit the polluted iskcon temples from years because of these fake devotees who are causing more problems instead of helping the mission of srila prabhupada they can’t guide nobody because people can’t make good spiritual advancement while they are still struggle to get rid of the false ego these foolish people are creating confusion in their so called iskcon kali yuga ,i tell to everyone who don’t know yet that the real iskcon is in bangalore temple in karnataka and the real guru is srila prabhupada, they are not happy to take over iskcon founder acharya position as pure devotees but they want make him to disappear also therefore i stop to associate with these meleccha in the guise of authorities because violence call more violence so is better to stay far then instead of be a servant of kalidevi by argue and fighting with these wretch who are not follow the instructions of srila prabhupada and are proud to be worship as a bag of stink stool, anyway indira ekadasi ki jay king indrasena ki jay mahisvati puri ki jay narada muni ki jay ys seva das haribol
The fact that now ISKCON is attempting to ban Srila Prabhupada’s original books is indicative of the toxic affects of the changed books. ISKCON and the BBT themselves are suffering from the toxic affects of their own unauthorized book changes. Srila Prabhupada being non different from his original books is banging on their temple doors demanding entry with the whole world at his side.
How much potency do these constantly changing books have? Srila Prabhupada in The Yoga System tapes talks about the fact that in the world there are so many religions. The world has created so many religions but what is the best religion. The best religion is that religion in which one develops his dormant love of God. So how do we know which Gita for example is the Gita with the most spiritual potency that will help the prospective devotee develop their love of God, Krsna?
The original 1972 Gita is the answer, if it wasn’t then why all the fuss to change it and ban it from Srila Prabhupada’s temples and the hands of the world?
When one leaves the changed Gita and takes to the original Gita then for all intense and purposes the changed Gita has lost it’s potency in respect to the original.
It does not matter how many changes to Srila Prabhupada books that ISKCON and the BBT engage it. It does not matter that they may print millions of changed books. It takes very little however by clever deviates to contaminate the whole message of Srila Prabhupadas books there by diverting the whole world from a multitude of spiritual realities.
The intention of changing the books is and has been done in order to stifle the spread of Krsna Consciousness not to facilitate it. The only potency left in the illegally edited books is that their internationally revealed contrast in relation to the originals is causing more and more interest in the originals. That in itself indicates that the illegally edited books lack the inherent capacity for the spiritual growth of the prospective devotee. The BBT and ISKCON will continue as a spoiled child continues in spite of being chastised by Srila Prabhupada.
ISKCON’s book changes continue to be ignored. They are being ignored by
scholars world wide and will continue to be ignored. ISKCON is hard
pressed these days to get out these changed books. In fact there are a
many devotees of ISKCON Toronto who will only read and
distribute the original Srila Prabhupada books.
The fact that recently ISKCON is reacting more vigorously against Srila
Prabhupadas books is simply because they are loosing the battle for hearts
and minds of the peoples of the world. The spiritual potency of those representing the changed books matches the spiritual potency of the books they’ve changed.
Wanting to prevent a choice of what version of Srila Prabhupadas books the world wants to read is feeding the worlds curiosity. ISKCON’s high handed militaristic tactics of book banning was similarly started in Berlin Germany May of 1933.
Srila Prabhupada does not have any changed books. There are original books only and those are the books that the scholars and new disciples of Srila Prabhupada are studying and copying from. The original books of Srila Prabhupada are going on line as fast as possible…for free.
The BBT and ISKCON Changed Book manufacturers are simply
that….manufacturers! I once asked the BBT on line “Is the changed Gita from the 1972 edition as spiritually potent as the 1982 changed Gita?” His answer was “YES” So I responded….”Then why change it”?
There has always been and will continue to be people interested in anything
“original” in the world at large. Original artifacts, original cars,
original records, photos, machines, art works of various kinds, pottery,
furniture etc. People world wide in regards to books are especially very
wary of the words “Abridged or Revised”. Abridged or revised indicate that
something is now missing from the original, then why is there something missing? the question is asked. And where did the reviser and abridger get the right legally to do that continuously for 33 years?
ISKCON will continue on it’s path of “revising and abridging” as long as
they have the money to do so…but the money is running out folks. So pay
them no mind…they love the attention. Take that energy and purchase from KBI the originals anyway you can and preach from them. The BBT credibility profile is shrinking, their former supporters and even disciples are going to the original teachings and books. “ISKCON will continue to revise itself out of existence. The future will never notice their former presence”
Someone must clearly state for the record: Where is it written in Srila Prabupadas will or testament that he authorized his books to be changed at the free will of the BBT for as long as the BBT and their descendents decide? WHERE? If anyone regularly connected with ISKCON does not consider these facts then they are buying into literary products that have not been tested. Where are the bona fide reviews from new scholars? The world ought to understand how their intelligence is being insulted by so called scholars who’s only intention has been for a steady income at the buyers expense. Like any corporation with a product to sell it is important to keep the coins rolling in. Every so often reshaping of the original product selling it again as “New and Improved” is what they think is essential. It is not.
The way ISKCON manages Srila Prabhupadas books and image as an ISKCON product indicates to the intelligent class of people that the present and long time managers of ISKCON have never really felt secure in the original books, never really had faith in them and therefore never really took the time to understand them. Buying anything from a doubt filled salesman is a high risk venture for sure.
ISKCON is constantly trying to reshape the perfect square but no matter how much they try their reshaping indicates comprehension failure and complete lack of faith in the acharya they claim to represent. That lack of comprehension and lack of faith is more than evident now to the intelligent class of people than ever before because they have seen and are reading the original works. They now know how in spite of ISKCON and the BBT to perceive the perfect original form.
Srila Prabhupadas original books are absolutely essential for many reasons, two quickly come to mind. First they will confirm or deny the validity or potency of the changed books and secondly they will be allowed to speak for themselves allowing the hearts of the world to hear them. The original books are DIRECTLY FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD, KRSNA. Srila Prabhupada told us this. That means authorized. In the nice article titled Leave Srila Prabhupada Books Alone, Srila Prabhupada said :
“Everydayâ€, he said “when I sit down here to write these books†He was now looking into space waving His hands in the air His voice filled with Transcendental emotion, “Krsna personally comes and dictates every word.â€
With the original books the reader goes DIRECTLY to the source Krsna, as opposed to indirectly due to redirection as a result of verse changes and word meaning changes by completely conditioned souls.
Those at present who are not able to perceive the differences BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL AND THE CHANGED BOOKS are suffering the toxic affects of being subjected to ISKCONs constant reshaping. There is the original potency in Srila Prabhupada’s books. POTENCY means “THE INHEIRENT CAPACITY FOR GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT; Growth and development take place as one applies the teachings, the essential constituent is that the people make spiritual advancement. Constantly debasing the original Gita for example simply has those whom Srila Prabhupada told us to reach constantly trying to shift from one direction to another mirroring the mental inconsistencies of a BBT and ISKCON who live in doubt of the teachings themselves.
Srila Prabhupada explained that his books are transcendental and every time they are read more information is revealed. That is the difference between ordinary books and transcendental books. Some may argue that the changed books still have some potency. By altering the original books as the BBT are continuing to do has the same affect as altering an equation with even one number. That means you will reach a different conclusion than the original conclusion. Besides the world doesn’t need SOME of Srila Prabhupadas potency, it deserves and requires ALL of Srila Prabhupadas potency. All of Srila Prabhupadas potency is what he wanted and still wants distributed for the whole world to have. Not just SOME.
Where are the at length essays from anyone….anyone who is a student in ISKCON that can detail the spiritual advantages of the BBT book changes from the original Srila Prabhupada books? So that new devotees may understand their reasoning. Where again are those at length essays regarding the re editing of the first edited books by world scholars who were exposed originally to Srila Prabhupadas first editions? There aren’t any because real bona fide scholars have long left behind reading what ISKCON and the BBT have been selling since 1982.
By continuing to water down the Hare Krishna Movement ISKCON and the BBT force an unwilling world into a completely unnecessary forest of concocted ideals and misdirection’s. Cultivating love of God, Krsna, the original consciousness of the living entity is being seriously delayed by a controversy created intentionally.
This intention is spreading wide an unnecessary conflict that is very seriously delaying the most important spiritual progress of mankind in the last 5,000 years.
Take heart, purchase, distribute and teach from Srila Prabhupada’s pre 1978 books while ignoring any ISKCON corporate threat.
“I long to accomplish great and noble tasks, but it is my chief duty to accomplish humble tasks as though they were great and noble. The world is moved along, not only by the mighty shoves of its heroes, but also by the aggregate of the tiny pushes of each honest worker.”
Hellen Keller, who’s books were burned by the facists in Berlin, Germany
in May of 1933.
YS Hasti Gopala Dasa
pamho agtacbsp hare krsna researcher dasi i’m agreed with you thank you to remind me to not be too much involve in the politic of this world is better to use the energy to find out our original spiritual body instead of argue and fighting in the service of kalidevi but never forget our humble origin this can help to make more progress in the way back home thank you ys seva das haribol
Following and being faithful to Srila Prabhupada and his teachings is not politics.
A PURE DEVOTTE HAS SPOKEN..IN HIS DEVOTIONAL WORKS…
PRABHUPADA S KNOWLEDGE DOES NT BELONG TO ANY ASSOCIACION…
.BECAUSE IT IS A HUMAN HERITAGE..NO ONE CAN COVER IT UP…..NO ONE CAN DENY THIS UNIVERSAL LITERATURE TO THE WORLD…..
OR PUT IT INTO SHADOW…IF ITS SO …POWERFUL…
THAT EVEN IF IT IS ECLIPSED…LIKE THE SUN AND THE MOON…
IT IS TEMPORARY..AND ONLY PUTS IN SHADOW…A FRACCION OF THE EARTH…WHILE THE THE LIGHT IS EVERYWHERE….
NO ONE CAN STOP
SRI CHAITANYA S MAHAPRABHU S ETERNAL WISH OF LOVE TO HUMAN RACE..
AND ANYONE WHO TRY S TO DO SO IS AN OFFENDER ..TO THE LORD..
PRABHUPADA GAVE ..KRISHNA.PREMA ….
REAL LOVE TO THE HOLY NAMES ..LORD CHAITANYA MAHAPRABUBHU HIM SELF SHOWED THE WAY TO ..HEAL RELATIONS WITH OTHER RELIGIONS….
WITH THIS PASTIME ON EARTH….HE ENLIGHTEND ..THIS UNIVERSE.
AND ALL THE IN THE PARALEL UNIVERSES ..THAT HIS PASTIME..IN THIS MOMENT
IS HAPPENNIG….WHEN PRABHUPADA LOOK TO THE SKY WHILE WRITING HE WAS GETTING…GODHEAD ..INSPIRATION…AND THE RASA LOVE HE FELT WAS PURE TO HIS BELOVED Sri Bhagavan Krishna…
thanks prabhu…for this comment on Prabhupadas while writing the original texts and purports….
….. “Everydayâ€, he said “when I sit down here to write these books†He was now looking into space waving His hands in the air His voice filled with Transcendental emotion, “Krsna personally comes and dictates every word.â€
IF ANY ONE WANTS TO COMMENT ON THE SCRIPTURES MAY IT BE IN HIS OWN NAME…NOT OVER WRITING THE AUTHORS…MASTER PIECE—
….LOYALTY TO SRILA BHAKTIVEDANTA PRABHUPADA S BOOKS….
How is this possible?I find it hard to believe.After all,we haven’t got any ability to please Krishna.It is only by a pure devotee’s mercy that we can do devotional service.In fact,our only job is to think 24×7 this question-how to please Srila Prabhupada?Even if the temple president is a pure devotee,he has to engage in service of the pure devotee.Srila Prabhupada at such an old age,he could have stayed in vrindavan doing bhajan and gone back home,back to godhead.There was no need to go to the west.He showed by his example,that the key is to please the spiritual master.The whole point of ISKCON is to please Srila Prabhupada.You can read how much ever vedic literature as you want.You maybe able to advance materially but you can never even get liberated,forget about getting love of Godhead if you displease the pure devotee.And pleasing him is easier than pleasing anyone else because he is self satisfied!!