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Disciple, Mayapur, April 2, 1975: “I offer my full obeisances unto the feet of Sri Nityananda Rama, whose partial representation called Karanodakasayi Vishnu, lying on the Karana Ocean, is the original purusa, the master of the illusory energy, and the shelter of all the universes.”
Prabhupada:
maya-bhartajanda-sanghasrayangah sete saksat karanambhodhi-madhye yasyaikamsah sri-puman adi-devas tam sri-nityananda-ramam prapadye
Yesterday we discussed about purnaisvarya, sankarsanakhyam, nityananda-ramam, the Deity, the superintending Deity of the spiritual world. Here also, anywhere, the master is Krishna in His different forms. So just like for management we expand some secretaries, or personal representatives, similarly there is good management also in Krishna’s affairs. The original person is Krishna, and His expansions, they are also as good as Krishna, but departmental.
So we have discussed yesterday that in the spiritual world, Sankarsana is the supreme manager. And so far the material world is concerned, the same person is the Supreme, but His name is different, Karanabdhisayi. In the spiritual world, the name is Sankarsana, and the material world, the supreme superintendent is also the same person, but name is different—Karanabdhisayi.
This Karanabdhisayi is maya-bharta. Bharta means husband. Just like a husband begets children in the womb of the wife, similarly, all these universes are impregnated in the total material energy, maya, by Karanabdhisayi Vishnu. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita: aham bija-pradah pita.
sarva-yonisu kaunteya sambhavanti murtayo yah tasam mahad-yonir brahma aham bija-pradah pita [Bg. 14.4]
The bija-pradah pita, the father, is the seed-giving person, and the mother is receiving the seed, and then she is impregnated and they develops the body. As we have got experience, the creation, the creative energy, this is going on, the same process, everywhere. So this Karanabdhisayi Vishnu—we have already discussed to some extent—is the origin of this material creation.
That, the scientists says, that… I do not know exactly what is their theory, but so far I have heard, that… There are so many theories. One of them is “There was a chunk, and from that, this material world…” They have no idea what is material world or spiritual world. But in that way a creation take place. Can anyone say what is the theory or…, of creation? Can any one of you say? What do they say about the creation?
Trivikrama: Their one theory is that there’s a big chunk, and them from that, everything else came.
Jagadisa: It exploded.
Rupanuga: An explosion, a big bang.
Prabhupada: Eh?
Rupanuga: A big bang. An explosion.
Hamsaduta: There were some chemicals.
Prabhupada: So wherefrom the chunk came? That is not… That is their brain fag, that they are simply trying to get everything from matter. That is their material brain. But we see here that the origin is not matter. Origin is Vishnu, Maha-Vishnu. So Maha-Vishnu is the supreme soul, maha, Maha-Vishnu.
So we cannot accept such nonsense theory, that chunk exploded. Where is the evidence that a chunk explodes automatically? How nonsense theory it is. We haven’t got experience. There is explosion of big, big mountains when there is dynamite, and the dynamite is given by some person. So how explosion can take place without the hand of somebody else, some living entity? This simple theory they cannot understand, that where is the evidence that matter acts automatically?
Where is the evidence? How you can say that there was a chunk? Suppose there was a chunk. First of all, the question will be: “Who made this chunk?” And then again, next question will be: “How explosion took place unless there was some living being to explode, as we have got experience that sometimes we explode, explode the mountain with dynamite, and that is arranged by a living being?” So they have no common sense even, and they are passing as big, big philosopher, scientist. Then where is the evidence? Can anyone say? Is there any evidence that matter explodes without a living being’s touch? Is there any? No.
Pancadravida: The sun. There are so many explosions are going on in the sun every day.
Prabhupada: That is the same thing that, that vrscika-tandula-nyaya. Explosion is going on, but behind that all these explosions, all these transformations, is the Supreme Lord. That is here. And it is confirmed in the Bhagavad-gita:
mayadhyaksena prakrtih suyate sa-caracaram hetunanena kaunteya jagad viparivartate [Bg. 9.10]
They do not see who is behind this explosion. That is their ignorance or poor fund of knowledge. We have got practical experience that no explosion takes place without the touch of a human being. Similarly, even there was explosion going on, but there is a touch of the Supreme Being. That is the statement in the Bhagavad… Mayadhyaksena [Bg. 9.10] We are seeing the explosion. Just like child sees the explosion. He does not know that there, behind the explosion, there is a management of a superior being. This is childish observation. Because in sastra we see that behind everything the hand of the Supreme Being is there, and by our practical experience also, we see that matter does not act automatically without being touched by a living being, so how we can accept this argument, that the explosion is going on automatically? What is the evidence? There is no evidence.
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