July 18, 2011
Dear Suvyakta Prabhu,
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
Thank you Prabhu and all of you in Bangalore for fighting it out on the front lines.
I just sent the following to another group of rascals who are trying to sort out the mess they have themselves in:
Tamal Krishna Goswami: …Actually, Prabhupada never appointed any gurus. He did not appoint eleven gurus. He appointed eleven rittviks [officiating priests]. He never appointed them as gurus . Myself and the other GBCs have done the greatest disservice to this movement for the last three years, because we interpreted the appointment of rittviks as the appointment of gurus…
If it had been more than that [officiating priests], you can bet your bottom dollar that Prabhupada would have spoken for days and hours and weeks on end about how to set up this thing with the gurus…. But he did not, because he already said it a million times. He said, “My Guru Maharaja did not appoint anyone. It is by qualification.” We made a great mistake….
What’s interesting about this so called confession is that after admitting to a great disservice and wrong interpretation, or in other words, lying, cheating and deceiving, Tamal in the same breath goes on to admit it is by qualification and somehow, amazingly this greatest disservice becomes the qualification to be guru. This is the statement of a madman. Too strong? So why did he not give up his position, knowing he was a cheater?
This was the basis of qualification to be guru in ISKCON and it goes on to this day.
Just ask any so called ISKCON guru if he is not subject to the 4 defects of a conditioned soul, if he can honestly tell himself that he is free from material desire, lust, subtle or gross never enters his mind, he has a confidential intimate relationship with Krishna etc.
When will we give up this cheating process and just try to become devotees. Automatically we will then become guru according to our real qualification. This is what Lord Chaitanya and Prabhupada wanted and all this discussion on how to perfect the cheating process is useless.
ys
Jitarati das
pamho agtACBSP yes the truth is very simple but kali yuga influence is not so simple!
This age is very stressful because so many sinful activities cause a huge complexity of karmas. Therefore we got this guru hoax.
But i’m glad to hear and see that the simple truth is coming out after 3 long decades of cheating in iskcon.
ys seva das
haribol
Dear Prabhus, PAMHO, all glories to Srila Prabhupada
The material work is so strong that sometimes truth is placed second to comfort and convenience. We might live where we do not out of truth but out of comfort, familiarity and less struggle than living elsewhere.
Similarly, when one is in a community, he or she may not want to move due to comfort, convenience or other attachments and accept what is said thinking it would hinder his or her Krishna Consciouness to disobey by speaking out and being asked to leave.
It is like we live in the US. To move to El Salvador because we do not like the President might not be desirable to most even if we disagreed with the President. It is obvious that the self-appointed gurus have hurt the Movement.
Having money and power they have convinced many that they are legitimate. The people in the Temples are viewed as advancing while those outside the Temple are more prone to maya. This makes it a difficult predicament for those who view the guru issue and the GBC as deviating.
If you live outside the Temple, there is more chance of advancing by attending Temple programs, deity worship and sankirtan than staying at home. The situation is not good.
I would think that the emphasis should be on what makes Krishna Consciousness what it is, the chanting, dancing and taking prasadam and after that do what you can. It is not easy to go up against those in charge but you do what you can.
Thank you Hare Krishna
pamho agt ACBSP
One devotee asked Prabhupada in Caracas temple why there is maya in the temple and SRILA PRABHUPADA answered that devotee, tell me a place where there is not maya and i go there immediately.
Presently it is better to look to our Krishna consciousness at home because we are still waiting for the real Iskcon with SRILA PRABHUPADA as the only genuine guide as diksa guru.
Kali-yuga is quite contaminated and the kangooru hoaxers make Krishna consciousness more difficult even by living in the temple full time.
ys seva das
haribol