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Yogesvara, August 4, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm): […] Sometimes we speak of the material energy as being different from the spiritual energy and other times we speak of all energies being ultimately spiritual, so what is the understanding?
Prabhupada: Just like the electricity energy, is coming from the same source. But it is being utilized for different purposes. Sometimes it is helping to make cooler, and sometimes it is helping to make heater. But cooler and heater are two opposite things. But it is being done by the same energy. How it is being done?
In the Vedanta-sutra it is said janmady asya yatah [Bhag. 1.1.1]. Brahma or absolute truth is that from where everything is emanating. Krishna says in the Bhagavad-gita, aham sarvasya prabhavah. “I am the source of everything.” Mattah sarvam pravartate.
“Everything is coming from Me.” So in another place, to make further clear, bhumir apo ’nalo vayuh kham mano buddhir eva ca. Bhinna me prakrtir astadha. “These eight energies, they are My energies.” Astadha, eight. Earth, water, air fire, sky, mind, intelligence, ego. Bhinna separated.
Just like I am speaking in the dictaphone, but after some time, without me, it will speak exactly like this. So, I am speaking, but I’m not present there. Similarly, material world means it is being conducted by Krishna, but still, Krishna, personally, He’s not present there. In another place Krishna says that,
maya tatam idam sarvam jagad avyakta-murtina mat-sthani sarva-bhutani na caham tesv avasthitah
Find out this verse. Krishna’s energies present, and Krishna is seemingly absent, that is material.
Jayatirtha:
maya tatam idam sarvam jagad avyakta-murtina mat-sthani sarva-bhutani na caham tesv avasthitah
”By Me, in My unmanifested form, this entire universe is pervaded. All beings are in Me, but I am not in them.”
Prabhupada: Explain that. [break] So, it is understood or if there is difficulty, you can question?
French Devotee: What does it mean when Krishna says “I am not in them”?
Prabhupada: “I am not in them”, because you cannot see there. Krishna is there, but you cannot she Him. You are not advanced. Just like another example. Here is, the sunlight is here. Everyone experiences.
But that does not mean sun is here. It is clear? Sun is here means… Sunshine is here means sun is here. But still, because you are in the sunshine, you cannot say “Now I’ve captured the sun.” Sunlight is existing in the sun, but sun is not present in the sunshine. Without sun there is no sunshine. That does not mean the sunshine is sun. At same time, you can say the sunshine means sun.
This is called acintya-bhedabheda, simultaneously one and different. In the sunshine you feel the presence of the sun, but if you are able to enter in the sun globe, you can meet the sungod also. Actually, the sunshine means the rays of the body of the person living in the sun globe.
That is explained in the Brahma-samhita, yasya prabha prabhavato jagad-anda-koti [Bs. 5.40]. On account of Krishna’s… You have seen Krishna’s effulgence is coming. That is the source of everything. That expansion of that effulgence is the brahmajyoti, and in that brahmajyoti, innumerable spiritual planets, material planets, are generated. And in each and every planet there are varieties of presentation.
Actually, the origin is the Krishna’s rays of the body, and the rays of the body’s origin is Krishna. Full Conversation
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