Prabhupada, January 24, 1977, Bhubaneswar: […] Ah. So much land sitting. Huge land is lying vacant, and they are complaining, “Orissa is poor! Please…!” – Why poor? Why don’t you work? You must remain poor. You do not produce your food. Kuyoginam kusam upaiti laksmini. If you work hard, Laksmi will come. Our institution is working so hard, all our devotees.
Therefore we have no scarcity. We are not babajis, taking a mala and smoking bidi. “I do not go beyond Vrndavana.” Rascal, loitering and associating with so many women, and they have become puffed-up, paramahamsas, Rupa Gosvami, imitation Rupa Gosvami. Only a loincloth of Rupa Gosvami.
No education, no book writing, no going out of Vrndavana, begging. And therefore government’s capturing them and giving this injection. What is that? Sterilization. Yes, just see. So many illegal children are born by these women. Bhajana. Bhajana kara. One babaji has at least three women, four women. That’s all.
Hari-sauri: Like monkeys.
Prabhupada: Like monkeys, yes. Markata-vairagya. [break] And they are living very rich. And if you make big, big cities without industry, cities cannot be maintained. You’ll require so many instruments, machine. That means you require (indistinct). If you require food, there is no need of industry.
Satsvarupa: I remember in school seeing films of India, and they would say, “This is very backward. They’re living as they used to live hundreds of years ago by using the ox and the plow.”
Prabhupada: Yes. Now we have, hundred years after, we have learned how to kill ox and bulls. That is your advancement. And kill your own children also. Rascal civilization. They say “primitive.” I was talking with a priest in Australia. So he said, “This civilization you are suggesting, this is primitive.” Do they call it primitive?
Satsvarupa: Yes.
Prabhupada: And what is the wrong with the primitive?
Satsvarupa: They think it’s shocking that the way they used to live hundreds of years ago, they’re still living. But in America…
Prabhupada: So what improvement you have done, rascal?
Satsvarupa: Motorcars, roads, buildings.
Prabhupada: So what is benefit of motorcar?
Satsvarupa: No benefit.
Prabhupada: Motorcar benefit means you have to start big, big industries and neglect farming.
Gurukrpa: In America they can say, “We have enough food. We have no shortage.”
Prabhupada: We are not thinking “We have.” We are thinking how the human society is having.
Satsvarupa: Well, they say “Let everyone help himself. We’re taking care of ourselves.”
Prabhupada: But why not you? What is your humanity?
Gurukrpa: So they say, “We work hard, and then they, they sit back.”
Prabhupada: So why do you make…? Who…? Who do you mean by “we”? It is, everything, belonging to Krsna. You have plundered Krsna’s property. You won’t allow others to come in. The Chinese, the Indians, they are congested. Why? What do you mean by “we”? It is your father’s property? You have stolen Krsna’s property.
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