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video: Bhagavad-Gita Lecture (6.15) given by H.G. Sukhada Mataji in Vrindavan
1 October, 1974
Mayapur
My Dear Giriraja Das:
Please accept my blessings. I am in due receipt of your letter dated September 26, 1974 with enclosed draft of your article.
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I have already sent under separate post (Registered), the photocopy of a land donated to us in Orissa, Bhubaneswar, and I have asked Mahamsa Swami to also send the photocopy of his gift deed. So we get so many donations of land, due to the charitable nature of our organization.
Regarding the tax exemption for research, we are doing actual research of the Vedic literatures. In this connection you can give the quotations from the many professors in America regarding how they are receiving my books which are heretofore unknown and unavailable to Western readers. Furthermore we are doing active research. We are demonstrating how people can live peacefully and simply, according to the correct civilization.
Our ideas are not man-made imperfect ideas, but perfect scientific conclusions. In addition I have a number of Doctorate students in various fields of science, Dr. Svarupa Damodara, Dr. Wolf-Rottkay, Dr. Rao, and others. They can act as the Heads of the research. We are presenting ideal living on Vedic principles of purified life of no illicit sex, no meat eating, gambling or intoxication.
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I hope this meets you in good health.
Your ever well wisher
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami
ACBS/bs
pamho agtACBSP,
this perfect scientific conclusion is Krishna consciousness.
SRILA PRABHUPADA also had to face problems while installing Krishna consciousness all over the world but he never stopped. Being a perfect Rupanuga bhakta through direct association with SRILA RUPA GOSVAMI at SRI RADHA DAMODARA seva kunj Vrindavan who appeared to our guru maharaj several times.
By meditating on the perfect lives of Prabhupada and our acaryas like Srila Rupa Goswami we also can become perfect in this scientific conclusion of Krishna consciousness.
agtSP ys
haribol
abhaya carana seva das says:
7. October 2013 at 3:59 pm
pamho agtACBSP,
this perfect scientific conclusion is Krishna consciousness.
“…A guru is perfect when he delivers the words of the superior authority as it is. Then he’s perfect.
He may be imperfect in your estimation. But that is his perfection, that he is not misleading people
by becoming a so-called rascal scholar and interpreting in a different way and misleading the whole population. That is perfection. People say so much about me, that I have done some wonderful thing.
But I say that I am not a magician. I’m not a magician. My only credit is that I am presenting Krishna
as He is. That’s all. I am not diluting Krishna.
(Hyderabad, November 30, 1972)
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Srila Prabhupada — A guru is perfect when he delivers the words of the superior
authority as it is. Then he’s perfect.
SG — You are a post samadhi ritvik initiated devotee, Abhaya Carana Seva dasa.
Now, based on your above quote, please tell us, which superior authority( which in this case is all the previous acaryas going all the way to Sri Krsna including the sastras) in their own words have mentioned or recommended post samadhi ritvik initiation and by such initiation become his disciple?
Srila Prabhupada — But that is his perfection, that he is not misleading people by becoming a so-called rascal scholar and interpreting in a different way and misleading the whole population.
SG — Is this what the ritviks are doing – misleading and interpreting in a different way thus misleading the whole population?
HARE KRSNA
pamho agtABSP,
what ritviks are doing is to officiate on behalf of a pure mahabhagavat, Vaishnava acarya, Srila Prabhupada. Srila Prabhupada delivers his new disciples like he was doing it starting from 1966. Prabhupada appointed ritviks to function on his behalf and to perform initiation ceremonies. Those newly inititiated devotees are Prabhupada’s disciples and this same procedure as set up by Prabhupada is going on without any change. Ritviks may be replaced but Prabhupada as our spiritual master and current link to Krishna’s parampara remains.
There is no chance of rascal scholar and interpreting in a different way and misleading the whole population. This happens only when pseudo gurus like SG take possession of Srila Vyasadeva’s seat called vyasasana.
False gurus like SG who are a) not pure devotees, b) not appointed by previous acarya c) not even liberated but conditioned souls are surely misleading the whole population. ISKCON’s trail of destruction is still not repaired. All over Europe / NA people still suffer consequence.
And shameless people like SG still incite people to accept false gurus.
Isn’t this utmost irresponsible and detestable? Yes!
(Srila Prabhupada)
agtSP ys
haribol
The problem with SG is that he has accepted his own concocted ideas of pre/post samadhi instructions.
SG accepts Srila Prabhupada Instructions of Ritvik system during his PRESENT, but, rejects the same system after Srila Prabhupada is ABSENT.
This is what SG comments elsewhere in his posting which reads as ;
” SG — One wonders if the goal of the ritviks is to make Srila Prabhupada look foolish. These ritviks have poor realization. Accept the fact that you are simply his followers and not his post samadhi ritvik initiated disciples. There is no such thing.”
If the above conclusion is your believe, SG, then, you have no right to condemn and criticise Srila Prabhupada’s Instructions particularly when you are disbelieving and disobeying it altogether.
So, SG, are you not foolish when you concoct your own such believe ?
When a sane person comes to think about it as to who is making Srila Prabhupada look foolish, is it Ritvik who follows Srila Prabhupada’s Instructions ?
or
is IT not SG and co who concoct their own ideas with their own interpretation and thus, disbelieve and disobey Srila Prabhupada’s Instructions ?
abhaya carana seva das says:
8. October 2013 at 9:02 am
SG — Thank you, but the answer you gave is not what was asked. Your reply
in other words would mean you do not have an answer but actually you do,
just that you do not want to say it – the simple truth.
No superior authority from Sri Krsna down to Srila Prabhupada has ever
recommended or mentioned such a practice as the post samadhi ritvik
initiation. The whole post ritvik idea was concocted by the ritviks to oppose
GBC’s unqualified guru appointments which has todate a record 40 plus
appointed gurus fallen from grace. That’s the simple truth.
ACSD — This happens only when pseudo gurus like SG take possession
of Srila Vyasadeva’s seat called vyasasana. False gurus like SG who are a)
not pure devotees, b) not appointed by previous acarya c) not even liberated
but conditioned souls are surely misleading the whole population. ISKCON’s
trail of destruction is still not repaired. All over Europe / NA people still suffer
consequence. And shameless people like SG still incite people to accept false
gurus. Isn’t this utmost irresponsible and detestable? Yes!
SG — Have read all your comments since day 1 and have noticed how you
have changed over the years. From the change in the style you wrote your
comments to better express your thoughts, from involving in criticism to
now the above.
I suppose it must be the company you have been keeping with since the
past couple of years or so. You are thinking and talking like some of them
ritviks now.
HARE KRSNA
As SG has clearly indicated about ACSD as to how ACSD has started to accept the Ritvik system Instructions of Srila Prabhupada during His Presence or Absent, therefore, it should behove to SG that he must STOP concocting about the POST Samadhi of Srila Prabhupada which simply means Srila Prabhupada is ABSENT and BEGIN simply accepting the same Instructions regardless Srila Prabhupada is ABSENT as it has been the practise of Srila Prabhupada which He intend to continue Initiating the conditioned Jivas all over this planet earth.
Therefore, Srila Prabhupada establishes the fact that He is the Initiator in His Iskcon. NO ONE ELSE….. Bas.
All of US must follow and hear from Srila Prabhupada without any deviation by concocting any interpretation particularly POST samadhi which makes Srila Prabhupada merely a conditioned -Sadharan Jiva not a Shaktiavesha avtara jiva.
So. there is still a hope for SG to come to this platform of acceptance as SG writes about ACSD acceptance of the Ritvik system Instructions of Srila Prabhupada which reads as ;
” I suppose it must be the company you have been keeping with since the
past couple of years or so. You are thinking and talking like some of them
ritviks now. ”
Hari BOL.
OM TAT SAT.
All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
pamho agtACBSP, here the problem is very serious I mean it is a question of coming alive again and not to waste time with the mental concoction of the so called temporay ritviks.
We are fed up to deal through dead matter, conditioned representative. Now it is time to go beyond this polluted ritvik system by letting a pure devotee like our beloved acharya do everything directly. They already created so many other dead things destined to disappear again, where is the benefit by wasting time in dead things to not say dirty because in kali yuga age everything is almost like that I mean dead and dirty things everywhere.
They just prefer to stay in that sub human platform instead of coming alive by surrender to our guru maharaj who is eternally Krishna’s most beloved servant. False gurus, anyway time will tell when they will be completely dead,
agtSP ys haribol
Dear Abhaya carana seva pr
what actually is a ritvik (priest)? Originally Prabhupada ordered that ritviks are elected by the Vaishnava congregation. There is no such thing as self-appointment in Prabhupada’s managerial system.
Question arises what if this ritvik devotee is not pure, is not liberated, etc.. etc.
One time a devotee asked Srila Prabhupada what happens if, for example, a pujari (priest) is in maya when he makes an offering, or perhaps the cook, or somebody else, and Lord Krishna does not accept it for that reason. What happens to the devotees, do they end up eating bhoga? And Srila Prabhupada said no, they won’t have to eat bhoga, Lord Krishna will accept it for the sake of His devotees.
Plz note this, Krishna is always at your side and helps His devotees. If you figure why do we need a ritvik to perform my initiation ceremony, how do I know he is pure, then you should always remember that Krishna accepts you in the family of Vaishnavas and there is nothing to worry. Ritvik is what Prabhupada installed why should we change?
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gd
pamho prabhus agtACBSP,
we already learned by SRILA PRABHUPADA i mean the book is been already written by SRI SRI GURU GAURANGA, we do not need any ordinary teachers anymore.
What we need is to follow the sublime vani seva of our guru maharaj by focus the mind through his willing feeling and thinking in the personal form of SRI SYAMA-SUNDARAM ASAMAURDHVAM without any trace of sankalpa and vikalpa then if someone is lucky enough to become a genuine brahma nistham by the mercy of SRILA PRABHUPADA automatically he will be select as a bona fide represantative of our guru maharaj.
Hard work first then samadhi,it doesn’t come so easy, today it has become a fashion to become a fake guru, ritvik etc.. because they are not follow SRILA PRABHUPADA about what HE said regarding the brahma nistham platform by focus all the thoughts in satyam param dimadhi as HE is still teaching us through HIS transcendental books in our daily sadhana bhakti, all these problems come because it is difficult to be someone when they don’t know who they really are but that’s not the way by keeping jumping on the perfect example of the previous acharyas,
agtSP ys haribol
@abhaya carana seva das says: we already learned by SRILA PRABHUPADA
Then you are a ritvik. You are distributing the perfect knowledge what you learned from Prabhupada. This is ritvik, on behalf of! Kindly try to understand. Ritvik may be imperfect, but because he delivers the perfect knowledge coming down through the parampara system via Prabhupada, he is perfect. Just like a post peon is acting on behalf of the post office. He is honestly carrying the letter without adding or subtracting anything and delivering to you. That is the post peon’s business. Ritvik does the same, like you said above, he learns the perfect knowledge and distributes without changing anything. You are a perfect ritvik, thanks! ysgd
Abhaya carana seva das writes in his comments ; ” We are fed up to deal through dead matter, conditioned representative. Now it is time to go beyond this polluted ritvik system ………… ”
I wonder what Ritvik system is he referring to ?
There is only one and the only one Ritvik system of Instructions from Srila Prabhupada as far as I am concerned.
What is beyond this polluted ritvik system you are talking about ACSD ?
pamho agtACBSP
SRI SI GURU GUARANGA always find a way how to save us, are we ritvik or not HE all the time tries to deliver us safely in Krsna consciousness therefore HE accepts our service even if it is not pure yet because everything is connected with HIS transcendental body, we are not perfect at the moment many times the post man don’t deliver the letters because we are here to become perfect again by following the living teaching of the perfect mahabhagavat devotees of SRI SRI GURU GAURANGA, to be a honest living entity one has to be situated on the platform of real life and not entangled in the bad dream of dukhalayam asasvatam world by getting more trapped, anyway at least we are not wasting time because we are properly situated on the path of perfection by the causeless mercy of SRI SRI GURU GAURANGA,
agtSP ys haribol
pamho agtACBSP,
to go beyond the polluted ritvik system is to go beyond the fake one that they created as diksa guru of iskcon.
SRILA PRABHUPADA says I’m the diksa guru of Iskcon and all others are the instructors. The rascals changed the order of our guru maharaj that’s why everything gone wrong for almost two decades.
Now it is time to reinstall SRILA PRABHUPADA as the jagat diksa guru of iskcon again because all other mentalities are polluted by this wrong ritvik system through danam janam and sundarim, they do not have any fixed abode in Vaikuntha because they are residents of naraka loka still. Neither they will stay on the altar like our guru maharaj for another 9.500, so the utility is the principle that’s to save ourselves instead of becoming a punar musiko bhavo, the yogi told to the tiger go back to be a mouse again,this is was happen to all the deviants of the order of our guru maharaj they been trying to take over iskcon bbt samstapakacarya HDG ACBSP and they became mouse again,
agtSP ys haribol