Convinced the planet’s oil supply is dwindling and the world’s economies are heading for a crash, some people around the country are moving onto homesteads, learning to live off their land, conserving fuel and, in some cases, stocking up on guns they expect to use to defend themselves and their supplies from desperate crowds of people who didn’t prepare.
The exact number of people taking such steps is impossible to determine, but anecdotal evidence suggests that the movement has been gaining momentum in the last few years.
These energy survivalists are not leading some sort of green revolution meant to save the planet. Many of them believe it is too late for that, seeing signs in soaring fuel and food prices and a faltering U.S. economy, and are largely focused on saving themselves. go to story
Letter to Hansadutta, Vrindaban, 7 September 1974: Regarding the farm, the exhibition is there in New Vrindaban. Kirtanananda Maharaja has organized very nicely. The same principle you can follow and organize it in Germany. Let the people be happy with self-sufficient food grown in the field with milk products. When I was in Frankfurt round our place I was so happy to see the farms and the cows. Unfortunately they will kill the cows. So if we organize a farm without killing any cows, that will be a great example in that country. Instead of killing cows, if we let them live, we can get so many nutritious foodstuffs filled with vitamins. I have seen in New Vrindaban how happily our devotees are living there with fresh air, fresh vegetables, and ample milk. Simple living in cottages. What you want more? We should not neglect the upkeep of the body, and we should save time to chant Hare Krishna. This mission should be propagated. Save time and chant Hare Krishna.
No question of poverty
excerpt from letter to Rupanuga, Bombay, 18 December 1974
Our farm projects are an extremely important part of our movement. We must become self-sufficient by growing our own grains and producing our own milk, then there will be no question of poverty. So develop these farm communities as far as possible. They should be developed as an ideal society depending on natural products not industry. Industry has simply created godlessness, because they think they can manufacture everything that they need. Our Bhagavad-gita philosophy explains that men and animals must have food in order to maintain their bodies. And the production of food is dependent on the rain and the rain of course is dependent on chanting Hare Krishna. Therefore let everyone chant Hare Krishna, eat nicely and keep their bodies fit and healthy. This is ideal life style. We do not condemn modern civilization but we don’t like to get it at the cost of God Consciousness, that is suicide. Your farm in Pennsylvania sounds very nice.
Unnecessarily increasing the bodily demands
excerpt from conversation, Nairobi, October 28, 1975
PRABHUPADA: Yes. Because this is necessary. You must have some shelter; you must eat; you must cover. That is necessary. So you do it. Grow food first of all to feed yourself sumptuously. You must get strength, and that is needed. But not for trade. The policy should be that you should be self-sufficient and save time for advancing in Krishna consciousness. That is wanted. Yavad-artha prayojanam. Yuktahara-viharasya yogo bhavati siddhi-dah. You shall eat whatever you require for proper upkeep of the body, not eating too much and sleeping whole day. Don’t do that. Eat only what is absolutely necessary. Then you’ll never be in want. People are engaged in material civilization means they are increasing the bodily demands, unnecessary. Just like this park. Why we have come to this park? We like this atmosphere. So similarly, in villages, everyone, if he has got some land, he can live simply without any gorgeous building. What is the use? Just have a cottage and have garden. You’ll live very peacefully. But they’re constructing big, big skyscraper building in the downtown, and they will have to come here by car for some peace of mind, and in the meantime, accident, police. This is the civilization, nonsense civilization. At weekend they will go to the village, country, and during the week-time they will work hard. This is their civilization, with the risk of life, running motor car eighty miles’ speed. Every moment there is risk. What is this civilization? Most ludicrous civilization. So farming means if you live in a farm… Just like in New Vrindaban they are doing. Produce your own food, live peacefully, fresh vegetable, fresh grains, fresh milk, and prepare so many nice milk preparation, kachori, halava with ghee. Offer to the Deity. Eat sufficiently. What is the use of going outside? Simple life and chant Hare Krishna. If you can organize that, that will be very nice.
JNANA: A nice program here.
PRABHUPADA: Yes. What is this rascal civilization, whole day “Where is money? Where is money? Where is money? Where is money? Where is money?” Everyone. Busy means “Where is money? Where is money?” Just like the hog, he is busy: “What time…? Where is stool? Where is stool? Where is stool? Where is stool? Where is stool?” That is not civilization. If you remain always busy, “Where is stool?” like the hog, then what is your civilization? Whole day working, night, nightshift, dayshift, whole day, the same, like hog.
BRAHMANANDA: They hold more than one job. They have two jobs.
PRABHUPADA: Yes. Get money and then drink wine and eat meat and do all nonsense things. This is their civilization.
Artificial way of banking will be collapsed
excerpt from conversation, Bhuvaneshwar, January 21, 1977
RAMESVARA: The difference between Vedic culture and…, the Krishna conscious culture and the modern culture is very, very dramatic, very big difference. So the transforming of society…
PRABHUPADA: And besides that, if we concentrate in farm project there will be no need of exchange, because I’ll be satisfied with my products. That’s all. There is no need of exchange. Whatever I need, I get in my farm.
RAMESVARA: Weaving, cloth.
PRABHUPADA: Everything I get. So I haven’t got to go outside for exchange. If you are satisfied in your farm—I am satisfied—then where is question of exchange? There is no need of artificial… So this banking, “fanking,” everything will collapse automatically. There is no money, who is going to keep money in the bank?
HARI-SAURI: Who needs it?
PRABHUPADA: [laughs] So this artificial way of banking, that will be also collapsed.
HARI-SAURI: This is revolutionary.
RAMESVARA: It’s very hard for the mind to…
PRABHUPADA: No, simply do this.
RAMESVARA: Such a dramatic transformation of society.
PRABHUPADA: Yes. Whatever it may be… We should be satisfied locally by our food, by our cloth, by our milk. That’s all. Let the whole world go to hell. We don’t care. If you want to save yourself also, you do this. Here is an example. If you want artificial life, city life, and hellish life, you do. But we shall live like this. This is the ideal life.
One of the functions of the Krsna consciousness movement is to establish daiva-varnasrama.
Varnasrama will gradually elevate society to Krsna consciousness.
If varnasrama is understood by the leaders of the God fearing world, there will be a great theistic revolution.
Without varnasrama, society cannot run peacefully and systematically.
Without varnasrama, people cannot be happy.
Varnasrama will eliminate unemployment.
Unless varnasrama is established, in the future people will not be able to get the necessities of life.
Through varnasrama we can properly engage devotees
The whole notion of “self sufficiency” becomes an impossibility unless the calculated threats of agrichemical corporations such are Monsanto is quickly checked. Their “Green Revolution” (a highly misleading term for the monopolization of GMO food production, mono culture and displacement of environmentally sustainable traditional and organic farming practices) will cause famine, disease, soil depletion, increased pesticide use, destruction of environment and water quality, destruction of wildlife, causing an ever-increasing toll on human health and premature death.
Pollen from GMO crops can travel many hundreds of miles in a day, contaminating other non GMO crops, so eventually EVERYTHING BECOMES GM and there is NO REVESAL of the process. So by allowing this GMO onslaught to continue will mean that there is NO INDEPENDENCE FROM GMO agrichemical corporations and a COMPLETE AND TOTAL LOSS OF DIVERSE GRAIN AND FOOD STOCKS, meaning that you will have to purchase seed from the agrichemical companies. The example of Hawaii is that it was originally a volcano that just popped out of the ocean. So where did the plants and wildlife come from? Cocoanuts washed up on the beach and became palm trees, grasses and smaller plants came from the droppings of migration birds etc, etc. The point is that you cannot create “Buffer Zones” around GMO crops to prevent contamination of bio-diverse species.
Madhu Pandit has shown himself to be The Greatest Fool by becoming involved with the growing and distribution of GMO foodstuffs. Is this the plan he has chalked out for the future of ISKCON? This is the NAIL IN THE COFFIN for ‘simple living and high thinking’ and for any independence and sustainability. The threat of GMO proliferation is a greater threat that even Nuclear War! Why do you think they have built this Doomsday Seed Vault in Svalbard Norway? That is why this (Soylent Green) Revolution is described by Vandana Shiva as a TROJAN HORSE. Once you open the gates and allow it in…… WER’E ALL FINISHED!
You can’t go and grow your crops on Mars, so like an incurable disease IT MUST BE STOPPED in its infancy NOT encouraged! NOT making deals with these demons and corrupt , incompetent politicians. Not growing GMO and distributing it all over India! Hasn’t Madhu Pandit any intelligence? I thought that the meaning of Pandit was that of intelligence and wisdom, scholarship. What is this madness?
Daso Smi
Sudarsana
No doubt, HDG. Srila Prabhupada set up the example of farm community during his manifested lila under the leadership of those who have become gurus themselves right after His Divine Grace disappearance which has caused a great deal of disturbance and distrust amongst the world wide Iskcon community, and as a result of it, the farm community within present Iskcon has not been progressive at all.
So putting up all the blame on to ONE leader Shriman MMP who is trying very hard to uphold HDG. Srila Prabhupada’s legacy in fighting against all those GUNDAS- guru leaders in the present Iskcon, as to why he is not doing this, this and that promoting GMO food etc. etc. etc. is certainly not going any where in helping our concerns and keeping in mind that he is not all perfect.
Therefore, my humble suggestion to you, Sudarsana Prabhu, as a senior Vaishnava is that why not write a constructive criticism and/or suggestions on behalf of all Prabhupadnuga supporters directly to Shriman MMP via email explaining our care and concerns what it is being expected from him as a Leader representing Srila Prabhupada and our voices of concern must be heard.
Hope it meets the readers satisfactory.
Hari BOL. AGTSP.
Dear Amar Puri Prabhu.
The reason I would not write any suggestion to Madhu Pandit directly is that because of his Machiavellian, Sociopathic nature it would be about as effective as writing a suggestion to GBC (tried and failed there many times, with NO reply). Also I do NOT REPRESENT persons such as yourself or (on behalf of) I am only giving my own perspective based on my own realisations of Srila Prabhupada’s instructions. It has long ago come to my attention that Madhu Pandit does not take kindly to any suggestions made to him and that such an endeavour would constitute a further exercise in futility. This is the best forum to make my views known as the opinions beying expressed are for ‘acceptance or rejection’ by the wider Vaisnava community and not just to “so called leaders” as defined by yourself to the exclusion of everybody else”.
Because Madhu Pandit (and Associates) have willingly and without regard for the welfare or safety of others (out of ignorance or proper understanding of Srila Prabhupada’s instruction/or desire for personal gain/or false prestige) signed up with the most Demonic Agrichemical Corporation on the planet (Monsanto) to grow and distribute poisonous GMO foodstuffs, causing disease and premature death to children (using them as lab-rats in GMO experiments). And because he has also willingly signed up (in association with Eugenics advocate and Fascist sympathiser Bill Gates) to use dangerous (live polio) vaccines on vunerable schoolchildren (completely unnecessarily) contributing to the paralysis and/or deaths of over 50,000 kids he should not be afforded ANY CREDIBILITY WHATSOEVER regardless of what you may pathetically regard as “trying to uphold Srila Prabhupad’s legacy”.
If his actions are (in your opinion) “trying to uphold Srila Prabhupada’s legacy” I think that you are just wasting your time here, mired in naivety and delusion. A fool is a fool, and because they are foolish they have to be stopped because the foolish are the most dangerous and not fit candidates for leadership. The world is full to the brim of fools in positions of “leadership” as there are multitudes of ”other” fools ready to support them and disregard their many “foolish deeds” all completely assured that they are ‘on the right track’. As Srila Prabhupada has stated many times ”you cannot make gold out of iron” I couldn’t care less about “bruising” the delicate egocentric, over-inflated false ego’s of fools and madmen like Madhu Pandit. This is a fight, When did Srila Prabhupada ever stop fighting?. I am not just exposing and attacking the activities of Madhu Pandit, I am defeating them as well. That’s the real difference!
Vaisnava Dasanudas
Sudarsana
Vaisnava Dasanudas
Sudarsana Prabhu writes in his comments ;
” As Srila Prabhupada has stated many times ”you cannot make gold out of iron” I couldn’t care less about “bruising” the delicate egocentric, over-inflated false ego’s of fools and madmen like Madhu Pandit. This is a fight, When did Srila Prabhupada ever stop fighting?. I am not just exposing and attacking the activities of Madhu Pandit, I am defeating them as well. That’s the real difference! ”
And in the same message at the beginning he writes this as well which reads ;
” Dear Amar Puri Prabhu.
The reason I would not write any suggestion to Madhu Pandit directly is that because of his Machiavellian, Sociopathic nature it would be about as effective as writing a suggestion to GBC (tried and failed there many times, with NO reply). ”
NOW I am wondering what kind of a fight, Sudarsana Prabhu is fighting and defeating them as he writes WHEN he has got NO reply ……… because
a. Is his writing not EFFECTIVE
or
b. Is the person Machiavellian, Sociopathic nature .
Make no mistake, it is not my own pathetically regard when I say ;
” Shriman MMP who is trying very hard to uphold HDG. Srila Prabhupada’s legacy in fighting against all those GUNDAS- guru leaders in the present Iskcon ……. ”
while he is in that position of leadership the facts of which speaks by itself.
Isn’t it Sudarsana Prabhu ?
Hari BOL. AGTSP.
“
Amar Puri
On the first point, the fact is that the GBC are ‘ALREADY DEFEATED” as they are not following Srila Prabhupada’s instructions which they completely ignored. So does that, ‘in your estimation’ put into question the ‘effectiveness’ of Srila Prabhupada’s instructions? Just because they do not accept that they have been defeated is only proof that they are rascals and fools. Srila Prabhupada DEFEATED many fools and rascals but did that mean that they stopped their foolish, rascal activities? Fools and rascals NEVER accept defeat, NEVER! That is because they internally NEVER accept Srila Prabhupada’s instructions. The WORSE DEMONS simply make a show of “following Srila Prabhupada’s legacy” while simultaneously making PACTS with other demons to ‘ENGAGE IN UNCLEAN AND HORRIBLE WORKS MEANT TO DESTROY THE WORLD!’ (does that ring any bells Amara Puri?)
Madhu Pandits position of “leadership” is no different from GBC’S position of “leadership” Just smoke and mirrors that’s all. Both claiming they are doing in the name of Srila Prabhupada’s mission Gundas fighting Gundas for CONTROL. Misuse of money (ofher peoples) resources and manpower and engaging in dangerous and foolish activities causing pain and suffering, the royal road to hell. Madha Pandit acceptance of Srila Prabhupada’s Ritvik instruction is only ”piecemeal” and only a ruse to create his own legacy and that is “DOING BUSINESS WITH THE MOST DEMONIC AGENTS OF MISERY AND DEATH FOR HIS OWN MUNDANE PRESTIGE AND POWER” If you follow such fools as this then what does that make you?
Amar Puri,It is ‘disturbing’ to me why you are so ‘tortured’ by the idea that Madhu Pandit is beying exposed, when at the same time the deadly practices of his DEMONIC CO-CONSPIRITORS HAVE ALREADY CAUSED THE UNNECESSARY DEATHS OF 200,000 INDIAN FARMERS AND THE COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY PARALYSIS OF OVER 50,000 CHILDREN AND THE ONGOING POISONING OF YOUNG CHILREN THROUGH GMO “FOOD DISTRIBUTION” OF OVER 1,200,000 (1.2 million) DAILY. If that is what you call “Upholding Srila Prabhupada’s Legacy” I feel sorry for you.
Daso Smi
Sudarsana Das
Sudarsana das Prabhu, not addressing the questions I put forth to you indicates that you do not have the answers to it.
Then, why write such questionable comments at the first place which create further questions requiring clarifications, and when I asked for clarification, your answer comes out of context with a personal attack.
Where are you going with this discussion, Sudarsana Das Prabhu ?
Does it become good to a senior vaishnava like yourself, Sudarsana Das Prabhu ?
By the way, I must add, in case you have not understood, that I do not follow Shriman Madhu Pandit and have no connection what so ever.
So why it is ” disturbing ” you when I ask questions from your questionable comments for clarification ?
Therefore, I humbly beg from you to please avoid posting questionable comments in the future.
Hope this message meets you well, Sudarsana das Prabhu.
Hari BOL. AGTSP.
Dear Amar Puri.
Firstly every comment is “questionable”, some may be discounted by others,and some maybe agreed upon or require further proof or verification. That’s all. Your statement that ”Madhu Pandit is trying hard to uphold Srila Prabhupada’s legacy” simply because he is fighting with ISKCON Gundas is also “questionable”, that is why I have presented the examples that I did. Madhu Pandit was not forced into ‘making pacts’ with such ‘Demons and Rascals’, he entered into these agreements willingly with great enthusiasm. this is what makes him dangerous, foolish and a threat to Srila Prabhupada’s legacy (with ongoing, catastrophic consequences).
If Madhu Pandit thinks that my comments are ”questionable” then he should defend his actions and show everybody what a leader he is. He should openly counter my statements if he has nothing to hide. That is why there is this forum, so that the facts come to light, otherwise there is no point to it.
I hope this meets you well. If I gave the impression that I was attacking you personally then please forgive me.
All glories to His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja Prabhupada.
Daso Smi
Sudarsana
Sudarsana das Prabhu, ” questionable ” comments either discounted or agreed upon, as you wrote, always require further clarifications, no doubt. That is what I did ask your questionable comments for clarification. But, unfortunately, you did not clarify and your out of context answer created further questions which brought the situation where it is now.
Is that not a FACT ?
Do you not own this mistake ?
If NO, then, what is the use of writing this ;
” If I gave the impression that I was attacking you personally then please forgive me.”
What does it signify ?
Did you ask for the clarification about this ;
” Your statement that ”Madhu Pandit is trying hard to uphold Srila Prabhupada’s legacy” simply because he is fighting with ISKCON Gundas is also “questionable”,
NO. You did NOT. Then, why NOT ?
Whereas you presented the example of your own which was out of context again to the statement I made in my comments stated above.
Is this not CORRECT ?
By the way, the explanation of my statement cited above was duly given in my message (comments) which you perhaps ignored it and I reproduce here below for your perusal ;
((( ” Make no mistake, it is not my own pathetically regard when I say ;
” Shriman MMP who is trying very hard to uphold HDG. Srila Prabhupada’s legacy in fighting against all those GUNDAS- guru leaders in the present Iskcon ……. ”
while he is in that position of leadership the facts of which speaks by itself.
Isn’t it Sudarsana Prabhu ? )))
Your following statement is out of context again because it does not relate to the PERSON discussing with you which reads ;
” If Madhu Pandit thinks that my comments are ”questionable” then he should defend his actions and show everybody what a leader he is. He should openly counter my statements if he has nothing to hide. That is why there is this forum, so that the facts come to light, otherwise there is no point to it. ”
OR does it ??????
Sadly enough, I find that the entire essence of this approach to the subject as intended has been lost due to incompetence answer to the flow of this constructive discussion.
At last but not the least, It is my only humble suggestions to the learned readers that kindly ask questions for clarifications from the on going discussions of comments before writing your respective concerns in order for the benefit for all of US.
Hope it finds every one satisfactory.
Hari BOL. AGTSP.
Dear Amar Puri
Your statement (which you are referring to above) is your own opinion which I have already discounted as misleading so why should I require any ‘verification’ (or clarification) from you? And why are you making so many superfluous, nonsense statements in your characteristic ‘accusatory tone’? Your obsessive-compulsive habit of ‘over-analysis’ and ‘demanding answers to petty questions” is quite annoying.
Daso Smi
Sudarsana
Sudarsana Das Prabhu ; Indeed, that is my statement based on to the factual situation while Shriman Madhu Pandit is in that position of leadership the facts of which speaks by itself.
Now that you discount it as misleading without any reason or proof indicates that your answer remains incompetence to the flow of this constructive discussion.
Is my inference correct ?
Now you are back to attack and insult me again when you say this in your comments ;
” And why are you making so many superfluous, nonsense statements in your characteristic ‘accusatory tone’? Your obsessive-compulsive habit of ‘over-analysis’ and ‘demanding answers to petty questions” is quite annoying.”
In your above statement, who is accusing WHO with ” accusatory tone ” ?
As you said that it is petty questions which are annoying you, therefore, I end my discussion with you respectfully.
No further questions, Sudarsana Prabhu, as I am not here to annoy you or any one for that matter.
Hari BOL. AGTSP.
Actions speak more than words:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bce7PCEFfME
Definitely YES, Krishna das, the link you posted speaks volumes, no doubt.
” bvks ” is the modern acaraya himself self style made and appointed guru like others in the present Iskcon accepting and collecting his own disciples all in the name of doing business under Srila Prabhupada’s good name and promoting under the pretence to make HDG. Srila Prabhupada happy on 50th Anniversary.
Isn’t it, Krishna das ?
For the attention of ” bvks. ”
Did Srila Prabhupada appoint you as His Successor to accept and collect your own disciples under the banner of Srila Prabhupada’s Iskcon ?
Perhaps, Krishna das may bring the answer either from ” JAS ” another associate of ” bvks ” or ” bvks ” directly.
Looking forward to hear further from Krishna das.
Hari BOL. AGTSP.
And dear Amar Puri prabhu, when you say Bhakti Vikasa Swami is a self styled acharya, I have to believe your words. But when Maharaj says that Prabhupada wanted his followers to be spiritual masters, I must not believe in them. Your intentions are clear here.
Secondly, if your claim is right that they are not following Prabhupada’s instructions, how is it that they are able to execute Prabhupada’s mission to a great degree while others here are just sitting and talking on the topic? If you still have doubts, visit the place and see how they are working towards Prabhupada’s mission and compare it with the organic farm project near Bangalore by some people claiming to be followers of Prabhupada. There are not one but more such centers in India itself, like Salem, Hyderabad etc. Let me know if you are genuinely interested to know about varnasrama.
Krishna das, please READ carefully with rapt attention my questions before you answer for the sake of answering with incomplete answer.
Where are the INSTRUCTIONS from Srila Prabhupada ORDERING His disciples to accept and collect their own disciples by becoming His Successor after His manifested Lila ?
Your answer ; ” But when Maharaj says that Prabhupada wanted his followers to be spiritual masters, I must not believe in them. Your intentions are clear here. ”
So, where is such PROOF ? Are you not intelligent enough to ask who so ever tells you that Srila Prabhupada wants His followers to accept and collect their own disciples after His manifested lila ?
My intentions are very clear. However, the intentions of those accepting and collecting disciples of their own followers are very very very deceptive. You are ONE amongst the thousands who have been deceived and misled by your so called self made and appointed spiritual master like JAS or bvks and so on. That is my only concern because there is no SUCH order from HDG. Srila Prabhupada to accept and collect disciples in the absence of HDG. Srila Prabhupada’s Iskcon.
Do you understand and accept it ? If NO, then, ask bvks or JAS to produce and show such order from Srila Prabhupada to accept and collect their own disciples in the Iskcon ?
Yes, Srila Prabhupada expects every one to become Spiritual Master but for preaching and serving the mission of Shri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu’s mission to spread the Hari Name in every town and village on this planet earth. Do you understand it ? Are your intentions clear, now, Krishna das ?
That is the PROBLEM with these people of self made gurus of all sorts. So, please stop promoting these bogus gurus people from all walks of life and get serious yourself to execute Prabhupada’s mission. While others are talking about it just sitting in front of the PC like myself educating you and so many others about the facts of Srila Prabhupada’s VANI, it is your, mine and every one else;s duty to bring back the innocent seekers back to Srila Prabhupada in order to make their lives sublime in KC.
Yes, centres are there as you said but the Lord is fulfilling the desires of all the Jivas as we learn it from the Sastras. Is it NOT a FACT ?
Otherwise, the consciousness of those followers of the bogus gurus, self made gurus of all kinds, their followers will go with their bogus gurus where ever the bogus gurus go after their death and you have no choice but to go with them as declared in the Bhagavat Gita. ” Those who follow, the demigod worship, they go to their respective place. ”
Definitely, these bogus gurus are not going to Vaikuntha because they DISOBEY the Order of their Spiritual Master HDG. Srila Prabhupada. Do you understand and know the penalty and punishment of disobeying the order of the Spiritual Master Srila Prabhupada from the Sastras ?
So, Krishna das, choice is finally yours.
NO need to defend your bogus guru JAS or bvks or any of the present Iskcon gurus.
Hare Krishna. AGTSP.
So Amar Puri, you are expectimg me to accept your instructions and not theirs? Anyhow I must accept someone. If so why only you? ANd why are you diverting from the main topic of following Prabhupada’s instructions on varnasrama? Are you afraid that there are people other than disciples of Madhu Pandit Prabhu who are far more successful and want to hide the fact and for that reasone changing the topic? After all everyone has 4 defects.
Krishna das, I humbly beg from you to accept ONLY Srila Prabhupada’s Instructions.
When you do follow Srila Prabhupada’s VANI, where is the need to follow any other living guru whom you are promoting and protecting so vigorously ?????
Krishna das writes further non-sense in his message which reads ;
” Are you afraid that there are people other than disciples of Madhu Pandit Prabhu who are far more successful and want to hide the fact and for that reasone changing the topic? After all everyone has 4 defects. ”
Since when Madhu Pandit Prabhu is accepting disciples ?
Is he a new guru, your guru’s God brother, Krishna das ?
What have I anything to hide, what and which facts to hide from who and what topic to change ?
What is your question about Srila Prabhupada’s instruction on varnasrama ?
Krishna das, I ask you to feel free to write and ask questions not only here in this public forum but to your living guru also regarding his collection of disciples all in the name of serving mission of Srila Prabhupada.
Hare Krishna. AGTSP.