Left: Tamal Krsna a.k.a. Thomas Herzig – – Right: Kirtanananda a.k.a. Keit Ham
The “living guru”-advocates, now dead gurus – their bloated stinking corpses buried.
Conditioned Soul’s and fallen gurus put into Samadhi – the greatest offense to the Guru-Parampara
By: Concerned Prabhupada-anugas
Why known homosexuals and deviants, so-called gurus and fallen disciples, are put into Samadhi ISK’CON still has to explain?
For any sane devotee the answer is clear: these rascals want to be worshiped even after death, for their name, fame, distinction and adoration. These dead “gurus” are gone now, but their history of deception and fraud will prevail. The souls of killed devotees under their regime will surely haunt them in the after-life, and Lord Yamaraja will account for their bad karma.
Although Herzig and Ham have done some service within Iskcon (as any one else has done), still they have also defamed the reputation of Srila Prabhupada and the Hare Krsna movement by their deviations and misdeeds.
Such fallen people CAN NOT be put into a Samadhi which is reserved for very highly elevated Vaishnava saints only. Departed Vaisnavas have to be spiritually qualified to be laid in Samadhi.
The term “samadhi” refers to two things: an elevated state of awareness beyond the modes of material nature, and a mausoleum honouring those who have achieved such a state. In Vaishnava terminology, “samadhi” refers specifically to full absorption in the nama, guna, rupa, and lila of Sri Krishna. Those elevated Vaishnavas who leave their body absorbed in samadhi are exalted and to commemorate their unique achievement their followers construct a samadhi tomb in which they place their remains.
Burial is one thing, samadhi is another. To equate ordinary fallen people with highly elevated vaisnava sadhus is a great offense. Constructing Samadhis in Vrindavan (or Mayapur) for homosexual paedophile Iskcon leaders dirties the names of the great Vaisnavas and the complete guru-parampara.
Iskcon deviated leaders have become completely crazy trying to make saints out of bogus gurus, murderers, homosexual paedophile leaders, child abusers, women haters and religious propagandists disguised as devotees. For any normal devotee it is incomprehensible why ISK’CON is worshipping criminals, child abusers and cult leaders? Even constructing Samadhi’s for them?
Tamal Krishna alias Thomas Herzig was a kali chela pseudo devotee, a religious propagandist with demoniac mentality who killed his guru to sit in his seat. Actually he was a Rakshasa. Kaviraja: dehhiye, bat hi hai, hi hoi rahshas ne diya ho. Translation: Look, this is the thing that maybe some rakshasa gave him poison.
414: Bhakticharu [to Bhavananda and others]: SOMEONE gave him poison. [(((audio)))]
413: Kaviraja: dehhiye, bat hi hai, hi hoi rahshas ne diya ho [(((audio)))] Hindi
Translation: Look, this is the thing that maybe some rakshasa gave him poison.
415: Kaviraja in Hindi: Caru Swami it is possible some rakshasa (demon) has given it. It is not impossible. Just like Sankaracharya was poisoned over six months with glass, etc. But the poisoner after twelve months got leprosy.. one has to suffer one’s karma. [(((audio)))] Hindi
That Tamal has been buried now in Mayapur is the greatest offence. Not enough that Tamal is the main suspect in the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada:
Kaviraja: speaks in Hindi…..
Tamala Krsna: Put poison in different containers. That’s all right.
Audio Clip in MP3 Format – [(((audio)))]
Tamals burial near Srila Prabhupada’s Samadhi is like Rahu trying to eclipse the Moon. Rahu is always envious of the glory of the moon and therefore tries to cover him with his overshadowing presence. Similarly Tamal with his demoniac Rahu mentality tries to cover the glory of Srila Prabhupada, even after his death, by his unauthorized Samadhi near Srila Prabhupada’s Samadhi in Mayapur.
Tamal Krsna’s Samadhi in Mayapur, India
Rahu (Tamas Krsna) trying to eclipse the Moon (Srila Prabhupada) even after death
Kirtanananda alias Keit Ham (a pervert and known homosexual abusing little boys) did more to systematically disgrace and degrade everything that he coveted with his lusty ambitious megalomaniacal eyes than any other rascal FISKCON Leader. He is without a doubt the most disgraceful and heinous character to every wear the saffron robes and be known as a Hare Kṛṣṇa Devotee and Leader of our once glorious ISKCON society.
Keit Ham was a monster even killing devotees who where opposed to his regime. He must be remembered for the atrocities that he committed not only against women, children and others but also the atrocities that he sanctioned during his tenure as an ISKCON Sannyāsa Guru.
Proud to the end, Kirtanananda alias Keit Ham never made any heartfelt apology to anyone he molested and/or abused. He never repented. The most disturbing is not his heinous and degraded past; it is how much those foolish followers of him still openly glorify him as if he was a pure devotee who could do no wrong no matter how debauched and degraded his life was.
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| Gopal Krishna, Radhanath, Panchagauda bowing before the tomb of Kirtanananda |
Radhanath, the murder guru garlanding his master Kirtanananda who ordered him to kill Sulocana |
GBC Members Gopal Krishna and Radhanath (left), along with ISKCON President Panchagauda das (right) bow before the tomb of Kirtanananda. It seems that the GBC is more interested in tombs worship, glorifying deviants than in the living state of ISKCON, which is rapidly turning Mayavada.
As we all know Kirtanananda Swami – Murderer, Racketeer, Charity Defrauder, Pedophile, Homosexual and Religious Syncretist: died and was taken to Vṛndāvan to be buried there. But His burial did not go smoothly, which can be expected for such a rascal of a man who took full advantage of his privileged position within the ISKCON [FISKCON] institution for the better part of his life.
Putting someone of this perverted consciousness into samadhi (building a samadhi to such a person), is quite different from burying them in Vrndavan. This is not a matter of hatred but proper understanding. Otherwise we make a sham(e) out of the Sampradaya.
Now that this man is dead they are giving him a burial in Śrī Vṛndāvan Dham. Ignorant people will call this a Samadhi but as he is not a śuddha bhakta but rather an offender or Vaiṣṇava aparādhi – it is merely a grave. Of course it would be more auspicious if he was cremated and his ashes dispersed in the Yamuna.
However what is most disturbing is not his heinous and degraded past, it is how much those who followed him still openly glorify him as if he was a pure devotee who could do no wrong no matter how debauched his life was.
In Vrndavana some of the sadhus are telling, that they had to leave the city to pass stools, because they could not contaminate the holy land, and ISK’CON are putting these devious so called gurus in samadhis in Vrndavana and Mayapur? Yikes!
Bloated, stinking dead corpse of Kirtanananda
Alanath alias Pramadvaiti (center) eulogizing the “glory” of his role model
Keit Ham’s brainwashed zombie disciples even tried to arrange a Samadhi for Kirtanananda in the most sacred holy shrine of Radhagokulanada Mandir. But the devotees at Radhagokulanada Mandir are all elevated souls and would never be taken in by rascals from iskcon-as-it-isn’t-anymore or anywhere else wanting to desecrate the holy samadhis there. The authorities of Radha Gokulananda temple refused the burial of Kirtanananda at their place.
The burial site also changed due to a backlash of public opinion on the original plan to have the demon buried in the sacred Radha Gokulananda temple (one of the seven main Gaudiya temples of Vrindavan) where our authentic Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇava saints have been placed in Samādhis – Lokanatha Goswami, Narottama Das Thakura and Visvanatha Chakravarti Thakura.
Kirtanananda’s final Samadhi site in Vrindavan on the Parikrama Marg (Radha Bagh section)
*** Devi Dasi: I was in Vrindavan at the time his body was brought here, and none of the maths would take it for a samadhi. It sat at Keshi Ghat till it got sorted out. A friend who lives there called me after seeing it swollen blue and smelling. Finally Gopal Krishna Maharaj arranged a refrigerator.
*** Devi: Kirtanananda threatened to come over with his hench men and German Sheperd to beat me after I questioned him about placing a known pedophile in his school in New Vrindavan. Although he was my God brother, I believe that he was a demon and his body should have been burnt … his ashes thrown to the winds as all those innocent souls that he hurt gave a sigh of relief ….. or at least leave his body on the ground so that those who he hurt could come and give it a kick. That is very therapeutic…I hear
Kirtanananda was one of the original eleven GBC men who illegally appointed themselves as initiating dīkṣā gurus of ISKCON and actively preached that he was Śrīla Prabhupāda’s replacement on earth and that he and others of his ilk must be worshipped as good as God and Śrīla Prabhupāda.
There are so many nice dedicated souls that have left their bodies while trying to serve Śrīla Prabhupāda. However, somehow or other our leaders seem to value the bad ones, the ones that offended Śrīla Prabhupāda or tried to steal his glory, resources or disciples. The death of this Kirtanananda is inglorious and we should never see that his life and death was glorious nor should anyone take the lead of our so called leaders who glorify such a bad man.
It is astonishing to see the photos of so-called ISKCON gurus and swamis in Vrndavana paying obeisances to the dead corpse of a convicted racketeer. For the past twenty years, ISKCON has taken great pains to disassociate itself from Kirtanananda, as rightfully it should. Compared to Bhaktipada (Kirtanananda), is there anyone else in the world who did more to devastate the lives of devotees and to defame the reputation of Srila Prabhupada and the Hare Krsna movement before the eyes of the public?
Why does Kirtanananda deserve a samadhi in Vrindavana, and why is ISKCON supporting this? Incidentally, many of our Brijabasi friends are appalled that Kirtanananda was buried there under the direction of ISKCON. So this latest move has caused distress among many Brijibasis, Gurukulis and other concerned devotees.
Hopefully, the GBC will issue some statement to help us understand why, after so many years of trying to distance itself from Kirtanananda, they decided to venerate a man whom most people regard as a criminal, a cult leader and a fraud.
PLEASE ALSO SEE
http://prabhupadavision.com/2011/11/fiskcon-attends/
http://prabhupadavision.com/2011/10/kirtananda/
http://prabhupadacharya.blogspot.de/2013/02/enterro-de-kirtanananda-em-vrindavana.html
http://www.iskcontruth.com/2011/03/new-vrindavan-shocking-pictures-and.html
http://www.harekrsna.org/pada/ks/nv-body-count.htm
http://news.vrindavantoday.org/2011/10/mixed-feelings-about-kirtanananda-samadhi
http://news.vrindavantoday.org/2011/12/kirtanananda-swamis-remains-find-a-home-in-vrindavan
http://krishna1008.blogspot.de/2013/05/kirtanananda-samadhi-pictures.html
http://www.harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/12-11/editorials8044.htm
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=41002
Conditioned souls carcass worship is in the mode of Ignorance:
Books : Bhagavad-gita As It Is (1972) : Bg 17: The Divisions of Faith : Bg 17.4 : PURPORT :
Now, it is clearly described here that those who are in the mode of passion worship and create such gods, and those who are in the mode of ignorance, in darkness, worship dead spirits. Sometimes people worship at the tomb of some dead man.
Thank you for your article and yes, I agree that it almost defies comprehension that these demonic individuals could be placed into a Samadhi in what is the most sacred of places of pilgrimage for vaisnavas. The fact that Kiirtananda’s burial was presided over by Radanath and Gopal K is testament to their evil, delusional, and demonic influence and continuing decay of FISKCON……What an Insult to His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada and indeed the entire Disciplic Succession that these reprobates continue to poison the holy soil of the Holy Dham.
In all fairness though to those persons who are ‘same sex attracted’ we should refrain from lumping homosexuals and paedophiles in the ‘same’ basket as there are probably just as many heterosexual paedophiles. It was a (married) serial paedophile that destroyed the Adelaide Temple which impacted greatly on my family an me personally (and still does). I’m as ‘straight as pool cue’ but I am always ready to come to the defence of those who are ‘same sex attracted’ as with most of those persons I have found them to honest, chaste and amiable. In previous comments I have also used the word “deviate” but I always use this in relation to ‘paedophiles’ or ‘philosophical deviation’. We should also not see paedophilia as just a ‘fall down’ this is a mistake some persons make. We should be very clear about this. Paedophilia is the most abominable thing! It is Rape! a heinous crime and paedophiles are cowards, because they violate, intimidate and inflict a lifetime of suffering on an innocent child.
No doubt THIS was one of the things Prabhavisnu was recently ‘applauded for’ as he and Ramai conspired to protect the WORST serial paedophile in Australia Kripa Kara (former Adelaide TP) for over a decade until he was finally jailed for the rape of a “nine year old”. My complaints about Ramai and his policy of ‘conspiracy to protect’ criminals like this to the “chairman of the GBC” (Suhotra)………”remember him…..a liar, theif and serial whoremonger, visiting brothels on a daily basis”, in the late 90s, resulted in a unanimous! response from the Annual Mayapur GBC Meeting………….WE UNANIMOUSLY ELECT Ramai …….”CHAIRMAN OF THE GBC!…………………What?
Is a homosexual murderer any worse than a heterosexual one who poisons our beloved Acharya Srila Prabhupada? How can anything be worse than this? Srila Prabhupada is not dead but lives in the hearts of all His sincere followers. His Samadhi will remain for thousands of years, but within a decade the burial sites of these demons will just become a ‘public urinal’
pamho agtACBSP
Of course the vrija basis are lamenting about these miserable people who got the Samadhi in the holy land of SRI VRINDAVANA DHAM. We can see that also through the expression of their crows faces, I mean they didn’t die in a peaceful and blessed way. Especially the face of tamala asura was completely reflecting the expression of the hell which was waiting for him to make him to pay all the troubles that he gave to SRI SRI GURU GAURANGA.
Anyway we hope to don’t do the same mistake again in the future by replacing the polluted bodies of this ordinary people in the holy dham which is not just super offensive but make a lot of quarrels and hypocrisy as well among superior human being like the vrija basis. Anyway what can be done we have not power at all to change the destiny neither we can avoid all these rubbish to take place, only by the supreme will when the call get ready we will be able to avoid all this rubbish to take place by changing our destiny through the constant practice of our daily sadhana bhakti.
agtSP ys haribol
Sudarsana Das Vanacar: Srila Prabhupada is not dead but lives in the hearts of all His sincere followers. His Samadhi will remain for thousands of years, but within a decade the burial sites of these demons will just become a ‘public urinal’
Mahesh: Maya TRICKS the demons who want to be “worshiped as good as God”. When these demons carcasses are PICKLED IN SALT grave (so-called samadhi) this DENIES them:
1) touching the dust of Holy Dham
2) Ganges water does not touch their ashes
SB 9.8.28 The Sons of Sagara Meet Lord Kapiladeva
The Personality of Godhead said: My dear Amsuman, here is the animal sought by your grandfather for sacrifice. Please take it. AS FOR YOUR FOREFATHERS, WHO HAVE BEEN BURNT TO ASHES, THEY CAN BE DELIVERED ONLY BY GANGES WATER, AND NOT BY ANY OTHER MEANS.
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Regards Tamal Krsna who ALSO gave Poison to Srila Prabhupada(besides others) if you see the photo they have COVERED his head with a lot of flowers THIS SHOWS that the EXTENT OF INJURY TO HIS HEAD which IMPACTED with the WINDSCREEN. This MUST have been really VERY BAD.
They say the 4-wheel drive Sumo car he was front passenger and it hit a tree. Now just consider HOW BAD the IMPACT on his head must be when it HIT THE GLASS!!! This is KARMA how Krsna ARRANGED everything. Tamal was gloating in the whispers “poison going down”:
Srila Prabhupada poisoned:
The following site has whispers of the poison givers:
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