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The Facts About Srila Prabhupada’s Poisoning by Arsenic
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– Someone Has Poisoned Me – Part 4
BY: NITYANANDA DAS
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“So as Krishna was attempted to be killed… And Lord Jesus Christ was killed.
So they may kill me also.” (Srila Prabhupada, May 3, l976, Honolulu)
“my only request is , that at the last stage don’t torture me, and put me to death”
(from SPC Vol. 36, November 3, 1977 tape recorded Room Conversation)
Part 4
POISON TRANSCRIPT WITH MP3 AUDIO FILES TO HEAR
[PLEASE NOTE: ADDRESSES, EMAILS, PHONE
NUMBERS ETC. MIGHT NO LONGER BE CORRECT!]
WAS SRILA PABHUPADA POISONED?
Srila Prabhupadas poisoning is not a question of speculation or believe. I believe he was poisoned, I dont believe he was poisoned. This is all nonsense. Srila Prabhupadas poisoning is a fact, because Srila Prabhupada himself said it, Srila Prabhupada himself complaint of being poisoned. This is suffice for any sincere Prabhupada follower to start an investigation. A true Prabhupada follower believes in the words of his guru, which are even recorded on tape. Everything else is nonsense speculation. Even the Kaviraj said: “if Srila Prabhupada said so, than it must be true”. Those devious devotees who deny Prabhupada’s poisoning, denying Srila Prabhupada. They have no faith in Srila Prabhupadas own words. They are Kali-Cela, disciples of Kali.
Srila Prabhupada Himself, (by Himself on tape) says, that he has been poisoned:
Original Poison Transcript
with MP3 – Audio Files for hearing
PERSONAL EVIDENCE OF THE POISONED VICTIM SRILA PRABHUPADA
Srila Prabhupada: [Hindi] Keu bole je keu poison kore diyeche. Hoy to tai. [(((audio)))]
Translation: Someone says that someone has poisoned me. I think it is possible.
Kaviraja: Kisko? [(((audio)))]
Translation: To whom?
Srila Prabhupada: Mujhko. [(((audio)))]
Translation: To me.
Srila Prabhupada: Vahi bat… je koi hamko poison kiya [(((audio)))]
Translation: “That same thing I said, that someone has poisoned me”
CONFIRMATION OF SRILA PRABHUPADA’S POISONING
Kaviraja: speakes Hindi
Bhakticaru: Someone gave him poison here. [(((audio)))]
Tamala Krsna: Prabhupada was thinking that someone had poisoned him. [(((audio)))]
Bhakticaru: YES!!!
Tamala Krsna: That was the mental distress. [(((audio)))]
Bhakticaru: YES!!!
Kaviraja: If he says that, there must definitely be some truth to it. (Hindi) [(((audio)))]
Tamala Krsna: What did Kaviraja just say?
Bhakticaru: He said that when Srila Prabhupada was saying that (he is poisoned) there must be something truth behind it.
Bhakticaru: gives confirmation: [(((audio)))]
Tamala Krsna: Sssss!
(Everyone begins speaking together)
Kaviraja: speaks in Hindi…..
Tamala Krsna: Put poison in different containers. That’s all right.
Audio Clip in MP3 Format – [(((audio)))]
Srila Prabhupada personally complaints about being poisoned, which is recorded on Audio Tapes and confirmed by above people (Tapes are available for investigation). A conspiracy to murder Srila Prabhupada is PROFOUNDLY evident especially in the direct (DISTRESSED) tape recorded statements of Srila Prabhupada days before He passed away; clear statements in which His Divine Grace discussed His poisoning [as well as its pernicious effects on His body and mind] with the very rakshasas -demoniac disciples- who were conspiring to assassinate Him.
Now we come to the evidence which to many is the strongest evidence that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned (see Appendix 18). Srila Prabhupada stated “…someone has poisoned me,” found on tape recordings from November 9 and 10, 1977. Some portions were spoken in English and thus have been widely available in the Archives Folio program or in the conversations Books, but much was spoken in Bengali or Hindi, which was omitted due to not being translated by the Archives or anyone else.
Now, for the first time in 22 years, this report presents obtained translations of Bengali and Hindi portions of these conversations. One version comes from a Hindi devotee, Naveen Krishna prabhu, a GBC and a longtime Srila Prabhupada faithful. The other translation comes from Dr. Jan Brzezinski, who also gave us the exact Bengali and Hindi being translated. Dr. Brzezinski learned to speak Bengali and Hindi during his eleven years in India. He was seriously injured in the Muslim attack on Mayapur that is mentioned in the health biography. He later received his Ph.D. in Sanskrit from the University of London, School of Oriental Studies. He has taught courses in Hindi at the Univer Manitoba, and his current work is translating various Vaishnava literatures. Dr. Brzezinski was employed by this reporter to render these translations.
Much of the Bengali and Hindi conversation regarding poisoning between Srila Prabbupada the Calcutta kaviraja, also referred to as Sastraji. Dr. Brzezinski has listened to many of the last twenty tapes and has made some interesting notes included at the end of this chapter. It is clear that a full and accurate translation of all of Srila Prabhupada’s Hindi and Bengali conversations should be done, as information critical to the poison issue may well be contained therein. Upon inquiry, this reporter learned that the Bhaktivedanta Archives has not had the manpower or funding to undertake this project, although past attempts were made but did not produce results.
In speaking to Naveen Krishna about his translations, he pointedly stated that only a native of India who was born and raised with the language could accurately understand the subtle nuances and meanings contained within these conversations. From his own judgment, he has no doubt that Srila Prabhupada was clearly stating that He was being poisoned. Translations by Naveen Krishna are shown as NAV, those by Dr. Brzezinski (formerly Hiranyagarbha das, initiated by Srila Prabhupada 1970) are shown as HIR, followed at the end by his comments. Thus we have both a scholar and a native providing us with two versions to compare and to be doubly sure of the true meanings, avoiding the curse of the phrase, “lost in the translation.”
Sometimes we have only one translation version because, simply, that is all we obtained. Bhakticharu Swami has also translated most of these same portions in exactly the same way, and this was posted ISKCON’s answer to the CD that never was. (see Appendix 21)
Room Conversation: Vrindaban, November 9, 1977. (Not the 8th) Srila Prabhupada’s Conversations Books, Volume 36, page 354: Book states: “Hindi conversation between kaviraja, Prabhupada and others.” (Balaram Mishra exchanges greetings with Srila Prabhupada, asks if he is still recognized since they had not met in a long time; Prabhupada says yes. A few moments later:)
[Webmaster (NNd): Generally Hiranyagarbha prabhu’s translations are more accurate. I myself having spoken these languages for 32 years since birth, offer on this webpage my translations and comments. These are not in the book. You can hear the audio by clicking the respective [(((audio)))] link for hearing MP3 audio. Note: In order to hear the audio files you need to have MP3 Media-Player installed on your computer. Just click on the audio link.]
The Hindi Translation in the transcript is given by three (3) different qualified persons:
NAV = Naveen Krishna Prabhu, native Hindi devotee, speakes perfect Hindi
HIR = Hiranyagarbha Prabhu (Dr. Brzezinski) Ph.D. in Sanskrit and Bengali
NNd = ???
ORIGINAL POISON TRANSCRIPT WITH MP3 AUDIO FILES TO HEAR
001: Srila Prabhupada: Keu bole je keu poison kore diyeche. Hoy to tai.
NNd: (This is Urdu
NNd: Original: Keu bole je poison kore diyeche…..hoy to tai. [(((audio)))]
NAV: Someone says that I’ve been poisoned. It’s possible.
HIR: Someone says that someone gave poison. Maybe it’s true.
NNd: Someone says that someone has poisoned me. I think it is so.
002: Balaram Mishra (?):Hmm? [(((audio)))]
003: Kaviraja: Kya farma rahe hain? [(((audio)))]
NAV: What is he saying?
HIR: What are you saying?
NNd: (This is Urdu – generally used by Hindi speaking people for reverential conversation) What may I ask, is your holiness saying? (The Hindi of HIR’s words would be: “kya bol rahe ho?”)
004: Srila Prabhupada: Koi bolta hai je koi mujhko poison kiya gaya hai.
NNd: Original: Koi bolta hai je (“mujhko” is half spoken) koi poison diya hai. [(((audio)))]
NAV & HIR: Someone says that someone has given poison.
NNd: Someone says that someone has given (“me” is half spoken) poison
005: Kaviraja: Kisko? [(((audio)))]
NAV & HIR: To whom?
006: Srila Prabhupada: Mujhko. [(((audio)))]
NAV & HIR: To me.
[PADA: OK, so “who” is getting this poison? The kaviraja wants to make sure that Srila Prabhupada is saying that he is the one being poisoned, and the reply is “Mukhkho” i.e to me, confirming that Srila Prabhupada is saying: I am the one who is being poisoned. “Someone says poison is given,” and then “to me”]
007: Kaviraja: Kaun bolta hai? [(((audio)))]
NAV: Who said?
HIR: Who is saying this?
NNd: Who is saying so?
008: Srila Prabhupada: Ye sab friends.
NNd: Original: Ye hi sab friend. [(((audio)))]
NAV: These all friends.
HIR: All these friends.
[PADA: “These all friends.” say (that I am poisoned) This makes perfect sense now that we know they were whispering about poisoning him. “All these friends” (i.e. these people in the room) say I am being poisoned. Or else, who is being referred to here? Therefore we take the conversation as it is at face value, someone is giving me poison and this is confirmed by many friends here, either rhetorically: the GBC, or even Krishna reveals these things.]
009: Bhakticharu: Ke boleche, Srila Prahhupada? [(((audio)))]
NAV: Who said, Srila Prabhupada?
HIR: Who said this, Srila Prabhupada?
010: Srila Prabhupada: Ke boleche.
NNd: Original: aye-ee boleche or se-ee boleche. [(((audio)))]
NAV: They all say
HIR: Everybody’s saying it.
NNd: “somebody (aye-ee) said it” or “Lord (se-ee) has said”
[PADA: “They all say” makes perfect sense, because they were all whispering in the background about poison. And they were talking about how they were going to poison him. Who else are the “they”? Is Srila Prabhupada hearing things? No, he knows what they are whispering about, these “all friends.”]
NOTE: If Srila Prabhupada said, “aye-ee”, and there was a eye motion or hand motion along with it, then “aye-ee” would mean “These people / that man / so and so (to whom I am pointing)” “boleche – said”
AUTHOR’S COMMENT: Did Srila Prabhupada overhear “all these friends” (his disciples) whispering in his room about how they gave him poison? Why does Srila Prabhupada state this in Hindi and Bengali, and only later in English? END COMMENT
[PADA: Yes, it would appear that Srila Prabhupada was not able to talk directly about his poisoning to his so-called English speaking leaders, who are the probable poisoners. Thus he spoke indirectly in English and much more directly in Hindi, because —he trusted the Hindi speaking kaviraja much more than his so-called leading disciples?]
Kaviraja: speaks in Hindi…..
Tamala Krsna: Put poison in different containers. That’s all right.
Audio Clip in MP3 Format – [(((audio)))]
[NNd: To me, it looks like Srila Prabhupada was hesitating before he said, “aye-ee”. Click to Hear again. The start of the sentence is very faint. He could also have said “se-ee”, which would mean, “Krsna said”. But all would depend on his eye motion. We don’t know which way he looked while speaking. If he didn’t look anywhere in particular, then he was probably referring to Sri Krsna otherwise he was referring to some man present in the room]
[PADA: Either that or Krishna told him, or Srila Prabhupada knows it himself and this is a rhetorical reply. In either case he is clearly saying that “someone has told him” that poison IS BEING ADMINISTERED –to him. Maybe he heard his “friends” Tamal and co. talking about poison because he complained in early November, what is this “phish, phish,” –whispers? ] (more here)
COMPLETE ARTICLE WITH AUDIO HERE:
http://www.iskcon-truth.com/poison/prabhupada-poisoned-part4.html
Srila Prabhupada left this mortal world on November 14, 1977.
But He lives forever in His instructions, and His followers will always live with Him.
“He reasons ill who tells that Vaishnavas die
While thou art living still in sound!
The Vaishnavas die to live, and living try
To spread the Holy Name around”
(Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Thākura)
HARE KṚṢṆA HARE KṚṢṆA KṚṢṆA KṚṢṆA HARE HARE
HARE RĀMA HARE RĀMA RĀMA RĀMA HARE HARE
pamho agtACBSP
Thank you for posting this true article on the poisoning of our beloved acharya HDG ACBSP. I do completely agree about what you are saying here and all the miserables creatures who don’t believe to the murder poisoned to death of our guru maharaj are bogus disciples coming from bogus gurus.
There is not just that snail face rocana but also others disgusting living entities like rama priya maitreya rishi etc… taruni krsna already departed more trapped through his anarthas by spreading prajalpas which are making the bodily concept of life stronger, but they still use the title of astrologers philosophers by spreading more rubbish everywhere.
Actually we need another incarnation of SRI PARASURAMA to come again to finish all these wretches in the guise of gkg,bcs,lkg,etc.. to stop once for all all these polluted rubbish to come in the transcendental movement of SRI SRI GURU GAURANGA
And although all these gundas saw their misfortunate followers to departed more trapped then before the few survivors are still enjoy kama krodha mohan matsarya lobha and mada therefore they are all completely crazy intossicated by their own stink shit through prajalpas anarthas etc.
Of course they are still alive for a little while more because they need to pay all the karma for making our spiritual movement more dirty, is not worthy to cut off the head to all these sub human products of our society even if they deserve it as already happened to that fly mosquito face of jaya atirtha. Anyway it is better to use the factor time to get out from all these rubbish instead of getting more involve by wasting time with these low class biped.
Maybe they believe maybe not but our guru maharaj is been killed by all these degraded biped therefore we don’t care at what they believe because they are already situated in the animal kingdom with their abominable consciousness to not say hellish planets which are waiting for all the betrayers of our guru maharaj to make them to suffer as they never suffered before then they can be promoted to get the nasty forms of the snakes for keeping to steal what belongs to SRILA PRABHUPADA
agtSP ys haribol
It takes many years to put all the pieces together as many of us can testify (a bit like a jigsaw puzzle) to the lies and deceit, conspiracies, cover-ups etc. before Krishna opens our eyes to what is really the reality of the situation. This can only occur by the mercy of the Supreme Lord and can only be the result of our dedication to the words and instruction of the Acharya Srila Prabhupada and all of the previous Acharyas because without following these instructions there is NO purification of the heart and NO realization.
I wasn’t aware of the ‘poison issue’ back In mid-March 2002 and I do not consider myself ‘psychic’ or someone who has predictions or for that matter someone who dreams a lot. When I heard that Tamal Krishna had died It really freaked me out because I had a very vivid dream about him, but now I was convinced that it was his ghost. I am sure that during the 3 or so hour trip Tamal Krishna, Kalasamvara and Vrndavanesvari dasi were making that K and TK would have talked about me, as I left New Zealand due to very distressing circumstances, due to the toxic atmosphere created by Prabhavisnu and Ramai and also Kalasamvara over child abuse coverups and GBC conspiracies, poisoning the whole temple. This resulted in an altercation and the ‘authorities’ banned from the temple and tried to ruin my business.
TKG was a kind of ‘jeckle & hyde’ personality but he was always very amiable towards me, often inviting me to prasadam, lunch etc. or the ‘nirjala’ ekadasi 24 hour mantra sessions’ where he would invite two or three others in the temple. The last time I saw him was in the late nineties when the actresses Hayley and Juliet Mills were visiting and just after we had finished the Rathayatra Chariot and some displays and dioramas also.
Perhaps they were talking about me at the time the car crashed into the tree, I don’t know, otherwise why would I be visited by his ghost? This sounds a bit weird but this ‘dream’ was very vivid and that does not happen to me very often. The dream was very short. I used to work on cargo ships for about 10 years and there was only myself and TKG in the dream. We were standing on a platform atop a mast of a general cargo ship, which is several square meters in area surrounded by a safety rail (a bit like a crows nest) just like the Jaladuta cargo ship (was it that, I don’t know)
The surroundings seemed very familiar to me but very unfamiliar to him although I felt strange wearing a saffron dhoti (which he was wearing also). We were maybe 50ft from the deck. He looked very passive and resigned and proceeded to go down the ladder but with his back to the ladder, at which point I said something like ”Maharaja, you have to go down ‘facing’ the ladder or you may loose your grip and fall off” so he did that and proceeded down the ladder till the platform was level with his neck and that was it! that was the end of the ‘dream’ When I think about it now I am sure glad I didn’t follow him down that ladder.
I didn’t think much about it at the time because I didn’t know he was dead until a few weeks later, then I remembered the incident of a few weeks previous and it hit me like a brick. So there it is for what it’s worth! I’ll leave it to others to make their own mind up but it was mid March of 2002 that I had the dream.
All Glories To Srila Prabhupada.
Sudarsana