Hare Krsna!
Regards passing away of His Holiness Madhudvisa Maharaja:
Madhudvisa Maharaja did so much SERVICE that Srila Prabhupada SAVED him from the pitfall of joining the bogus Anti Ritvik money screwing slavery making bunch of crooks as Diksa Guru. Srila Prabhupada’s personal letter PREVENTED him becoming bogus Initiatior. NOT ONLY THAT – we ALL use this letter as EVIDENCE from Srila Prabhupada TO PROVE the INITIATOR is Srila Prabhupada – so THAT letter he provided is BIG SERVICE TO SRILA PRABHUPADA.
75-08-04. Letter: Madhudvisa:
The GBC should all be the instructor gurus. I AM IN THE INITIATOR GURU, and you should be the instructor guru by teaching what I am teaching and doing what I am doing. This is not a title, but you must actually come to this platform. This I want.
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Madhudvisa Maharaja did very great service for providing ANOTHER very IMPORTANT letter. In Australia he got this letter from Srila Prabhupada WHICH was PROOF that the living entity ORIGINATED in Krsna Lila NOT Brahmasayujya . This is WHAT makes us DIFFERENT from the bogus Gaudiya math camp – they do NOT accept that the ORIGIN of the living entity is Krsna Lila on the contrary they believe that the origin is Brahmasayujya.
Letter to: Madhudvisa
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Los Angeles
16 May, 1972
72-05-16
My Dear Madhudvisa,
Please accept my blessings. I beg to acknowledge receipt of your letter dated May 9, 1972, and I have noted the contents. By now you have received our request for you to become the GBC man for South-east Asia, South Pacific zone. If you like, you may take up this post and travel extensively through that zone and do something wonderful there. I think Sudama Vipra Maharaja and one assistant have gone to Manila in the Philippine Islands and their report is very encouraging. So I shall be very anxious to hear your reply in this connection.
So far the “Akash Ganga” people, I think they shall remain quiet. Regarding your questions, generally we do not discuss these incidents because a devotee of Lord Caitanya does not feel very happy to discuss them. But so far we have heard from authorized sources, He simultaneously entered Jagannatha Temple and Gopinatha Temple in Puri and He did not come out. That much is sufficient.
The living entities are not created, the material world is created. just like a building is constructed, not the inhabitants. Sometimes the word “created” is used in connection with the living entity, but then it is to be understood that it refers to the manifestation of the marginal energy of Krishna. We say that the spiritual world is a creation of the spiritual energy, but actually the spiritual world is never created and it is just to indicate to what department it belongs.
The living entity is the manifestation of the marginal energy of Krishna, and Krishna’s energy is everywhere, so the living entity is also spread everywhere. Just like the sunshine is composed of small particles, so sunshine is distributed all over the universe, so also the shining particles are distributed. Similarly, the atomic living entities are existent in the Brahmajyoti and the Brahmajyoti is distributed everywhere, so the living entities are also spread everywhere. Their another name is “sarvaga,” all-pervading.
Hoping this will meet you in good health.
Your ever well-wisher,
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami
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Crow And Tal-Fruit Logic
We never had any occasion when we were separated from Krsna. Just like one man is dreaming and he forgets himself. In dream he creates himself in different forms: now I am the King discussing like that. This creation of himself is as seer and subject matter or seen, two things. But as soon as the dream is over, the “seen” disappears. But the seer remains. Now he is in his original position.
Our separation from Krsna is like that. We dream this body and so many relationships with other things. First the attachment comes to enjoy sense gratification. Even with Krsna desire for sense gratification is there. There is a dormant attitude for forgetting Krsna and creating an atmosphere for enjoying independently. Just like at the edge of the beach, sometimes the water covers, sometimes there is dry sand, coming and going. Our position is like that, sometimes covered, sometimes free, just like at the edge of the tide. As soon as we forget, immediately the illusion is there. Just like as soon as we sleep, dream is there.
We cannot say therefore that we are not with Krsna. As soon as we try to become Lord, immediately we are covered by Maya. Formerly we were with Krsna in His lila or sport. But this covering of Maya may be of very, very, very, very long duration, therefore many creations are coming and going. Due to this long period of time it is sometimes said that we are ever-conditioned. But his long duration of time becomes very insignificant when one actually comes to Krsna consciousness. Just like in a dream we are thinking very long time, but as soon as we awaken we look at our watch and see it has been a moment only. Just like with Krsna’s friends, they were kept asleep for one year by Brahma, but when they woke up and Krsna returned before them, they considered that only a moment had passed.
So this dreaming condition is called non-liberated life, and this is just like a dream. Although in this material calculation it is a long, long period, as soon as we come to Krsna consciousness then this period is considered as a second. For example, Jaya and Vijaya. They had their lila with Krsna, but they had to come down for their little mistake. They were given mukti, emerging into the Brahmasayujya after being killed three times as demons. This Brahmasayujya mukti is non-permanent. Every living entity wants pleasure, but Brahmasayujya is minus pleasure. There is eternal existence only. So when they do not find transcendental bliss, they fall down to make a compromise with material bliss. Just like Vivekananda founded so many schools and hospitals. So even Lord Brahma, he is still material and wants to lord it over. He may come down to become a germ, but then he may rise up toKrsna consciousness and go back to home, back to
Godhead. This is the position.
So when I say Yes, there is eternal lila with Krsna, that means on the evidence of Jaya-Vijaya. Unless one develops full devotional service to Krsna, he goes up only up to Brahmasayujya but falls down. But after millions and millions of years of keeping oneself away from the lila of the Lord, when one comes to Krsna consciousness this period becomes insignificant, just like dreaming.
Because he falls down from Brahmasayujya, he thinks that may be his origin, but he does not remember that before that even he was with Krsna. So the conclusion is that whatever may be our past, let us come to Krsna consciousness and immediately join Krsna. Just like with a diseased man, it is a waste of time to try to find out how he has become diseased, better to spend time curing the disease.
On the top of the tree there is a nice tal-fruit. A crow went there and the fruit fell down, Some panditas, big big learned scholars saw this and discussed: the fruit fell due to the crow agitating the limb. No, the fruitfell simultaneously with the crow landing and frightened the crow so he flew away. No, the fruit was ripe and the weight of the crow landing broke it from the branch, and so on and so on. What is the use of such discussions? So whether you were in the Brahmasayujya or with Krsna in His lila, at the moment you are in neither, so the best policy is to develop your Krsna consciousness and go there, never mind what is your origin.
Brahmasayujya and Krsna lila—both may be possible, but when you are coming down from Brahmasayujya or when you are coming down from Krsna lila, that remains a mystery. But at the present moment we are in Maya’s clutches, so at present our only hope is to become Krsnaconscious and go back to Home, back to Godhead. The real position is servant of Krsna, and servant of Krsna means in Krsna lila. Directly or indirectly, always we are serving Krsna’s lila. Even in dream. Just like we cannot go out of the sun when it is daytime, so where is the chance of going out of Krsna lila? The cloud may be there, it may become very gray and dim, but still the sunlight is there, everywhere, during the daytime. Because I am part and parcel of Krsna, I am always connected. My finger, even though it may be diseased, remains part and parcel of my body. Therefore, we try to treat it, cure it, because it is part and parcel. So Krsna comes Himself when we
forget Him, or He sends His representative.
Awakening or dreaming, I am the same man. As soon as I awaken and see myself, I see Krsna. Cause and effect are both Krsna. Just like cotton becomes thread and thread becomes cloth, still, the original cause is cotton. Therefore, everything is Krsna in the ultimate sense. When we cannot contact Krsna personally, we contact His energies. So there is no chance to be outside Krsna’s lila. But differences we see under different conditions. Just like in the pool of water and in the mirror the same me is reflecting, but in different reflections. One is shimmering, unsteady, one is clear and fixed. Except for being in Krsnaconsciousness, we cannot see our actual position rightly, therefore the learned man sees all living entities as the same parts and parcels ofKrsna. Material existence is impersonal because my real personality is covered. But we should think that because I am now covered by this clay, I am diseased, and we should think that I must get
to business to get myself uncovered, not wonder how I got this way. Now the fruit is there, take it and enjoy, that is your first business. God is not bound by cause. He can change, He is the Cause of all Causes. Now don’t waste your time with this “Kaka taliya nyaya,” crows and tal-fruit logic.
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DO YOU KNOW THAT THERE MUST BE PRASADAM DISTRIBUTED? AFTER THREE DAYS AFTER THE DEMISE OF A VAISNAVA A FUNCTION SHOULD BE HELD FOR OFFERING THE DEPARTED SOUL AND ALL OTHERS PRASADAM. THIS IS THE SYSTEM.
73-11-14. Letter: Revatinandana Regarding the auto accident, just hold a condolence meeting for Raghava dasa brahmacari and pray for his soul to Krsna for giving him a good chance for advancement in Krsna consciousness. Certainly Krsna will give him a good place to take birth where he can again begin in Krsna consciousness activities. That is sure. BUT, WE OFFER OUR CONDOLENCES TO A DEPARTED SOUL SEPARATED FROM A VAISNAVA. DO YOU KNOW THAT THERE MUST BE PRASADAM DISTRIBUTED? AFTER THREE DAYS AFTER THE DEMISE OF A VAISNAVA A FUNCTION SHOULD BE HELD FOR OFFERING THE DEPARTED SOUL AND ALL OTHERS PRASADAM. THIS IS THE SYSTEM.
(by Mahesh Raja)
Note: this is yet ANOTHER instance that His Holiness Madhudvisa Maharaja was putting questions on behalf of the audience. IGNORANT CRAZY ANTI RITVIK SLAVERY MAKING MONEY SCREWING CROOKS SAY you need “living guru”. However, Srila Prabhupada says SPIRITUAL MASTER IS ETERNAL. And –“when you read Bible that means you are following the spiritual master represented by some priest or some clergyman in the line of Lord Jesus Christ.”
SPIRITUAL MASTER IS ETERNAL.
681002LE.SEA Lectures
Madhudvisa: Is there any way for a Christian to, without the help of a spiritual master, to reach the spiritual sky through believing in the words of Jesus Christ and trying to follow his teachings?
Prabhupada: I don’t follow.
Tamala Krsna: Can a Christian in this age, without a spiritual master, but by reading the Bible and following Jesus’s words, reach the…
Prabhupada: When you read Bible, you follow spiritual master. How can you say without? As soon as you read Bible, that means you are following the instruction of Lord Jesus Christ, that means you are following spiritual master. So where is the opportunity of being without spiritual master?
Madhudvisa: I was referring to a living spiritual master.
Prabhupada: Spiritual master is not the question of… SPIRITUAL MASTER IS ETERNAL. SPIRITUAL MASTER IS ETERNAL. So your question is without spiritual master. Without spiritual master you cannot be, at any stage of your life. You may accept this spiritual master or that spiritual master. That is a different thing. But you have to accept. As you say that “by reading Bible,” when you read Bible that means you are following the spiritual master represented by some priest or some clergyman in the line of Lord Jesus Christ. So any case, you have to follow a spiritual master. There cannot be the question without spiritual master. Is that clear?
pamho agtACBSP,SRI BALARAMA JAYANTI KI JAI,
Well we are all in the list to leave our miserable condition,it’s not allowed to be ridiculous and misunderstood from so many lives by keeping suffering,that’s not allowed too used to say SRILA PRABHUPADA,anyway at least HG madhudvisa maharaj didn’t leave this dukhalayam asasvatam world with empty hands,i mean id done so many wonderful services to SRILA PRABHUPADA therefore his next journey is safer. SRILA PRABHUPADA used to say also all of you can take advandage that I’m perfect that means HE already surpassed the yesam anta gatam papam and the bahunam janmanam ante stages.
By meditating on the perfect and transcendental vision of SRILA PRABHUPADA through HIS vani seva one can reach that perfection even faster this means to take advantage,we are always the same we are travelling up down the fourteen ghostly planetray systems of the material world life after life through new vasamsi body dress and journey because the guru is eternal and the journey is also eternal therefore we should endeavour always to achieve perfection,more we do now and less we do later but when we get perfection we don’t do nothing anymore because SRI KRSNA will do everything nicely for HIS pure lovely creation,until we find out this pure connection with the real images we get cheated because everyone get cheated through the fake reflection not connected to the real upadhi designation of the sva murti. We need to find it out right now through costant seva to avoid to pass through bahunam janmanam ante still to be situated beyond yesam tv anta gatam papam as SRILA PRABHUPADA,this is perfection by forgetting the gunas and karma of the past one is already reborn through Krsna consciousness instructions as all the followers of HDG JESUS CHRIST are already connected to that divya jnana by the diksa of their guru maharaj. SRI BALARAMA JAYANTI is giving a lot of blessing to the devotees through the honey of the abhisheka I remember when I were devotees full time they gave me too much honey to drink and I were completely stoned by SRI BALARAMA JAYANTI KI JAI
agtSP ys haribol