Jayapataka Swami now in coma ?
Indian man (2): But what if they die in coma? What if they die in deep unconsciousness?
Śrīla Prabhupāda: That is not very good. Coma is not good. That is the sign of sinful life. He must be conscious. That is good. (Lectures : Bhagavad-gita 7.4 — Nairobi, October 31, 1975)
Śrīla Prabhupāda:…” Yes. That is daiva-netreṇa. These things are finished very quickly. And if it takes little time, then this man who is dying, he remains in coma and does not die. Because the judgement is going on, the decision waiting, coma. You have seen sometimes a man is in coma for seven days, eight days? Yes. That means his judgement is going on, that… Such kind of death means very sinful death. Not yet settled up, very complicated case. Therefore it takes time.” (Morning Walk — April 7, 1974, Bombay)
Śrīla Prabhupāda…”At the time of death there are many troubles, and we become very fearful. Sometimes, when a person is dying, he falls into a COMA and lies unconscious. We do not know what kind of fearful test this person is undergoing. He may be dreaming so many things, or he may be crying. He cannot express what is going on. Those who are very sinful especially die in that way.” (Teachings of Lord Kapila, the Son of Devahuti : TLK 17: Taking Shelter of Krsna, the Supreme Controller : TLK Vs 41 : PURPORT)
Śrīla Prabhupāda..”Nowadays it has become a very common… Coma. One is lying in the bed for weeks, two weeks, crying. The life is not going. Those who are very, very sinful.” (Lectures : Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.7.18 — Vrndavana, September 15, 1976)
Śrīla Prabhupāda…”When one is lying in coma, so many sufferings is going on, so many dreaming, the Yamadūtā is coming. Sometimes the man on the deathbed cries, he’s so much suffering. But there is no remedy. Everyone is helpless.” (Lecture — Gorakhpur, February 18, 1971)
Jayapataka Swami declared Srila Prabhupada “dead”
“The following article was published on the Front Page of Today’s (24/7/2000) Asian Age […]
Shankarshan das and Nitai Prasad das delivered the press release and cultivated the press. I drafted the press release and it was edited by our lawyers. The newspaper edited it themselves as they always do. Still the main gist is there:
‘In a signed statement issued to all Krishna bhaktas around the world, Mayapur general manager Dham Nitai Prasad Dasa has accused […] all devotees wanting to receive diksha within Iskcon should still receive it from founder-acharya of Iskcon, A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, Srila Prabhupada, and become his direct disciples, in spite of him being dead for the last 23 years,” the letter says.’”
(Asian Age, front page, 24/7/2000), Emphasis added
(Jayapataka.Swami, Monday, July 24, 2000 10:12 PM)
COMMENTS
IRM: Of all the gurus who currently hold sway in ISKCON, none can match HH. Jayapataka Swami, in terms of the number of disciples he has amassed (approximately 5000 and counting). He has therefore stolen more disciples from Srila Prabhupada than anyone else, via masquerading as Srila Prabhupada’s “appointed successor“.
Abhaya Charanaravinda Devi Dasi: He continues to let people touch his feet & act like a guru when really he’s just a fallen conditioned soul. What surprises me is he’s not fearful of his own Punishment but just continues what he’s doing but this is the actions of a demon.
Rosalba Rukmini Ramana: I just hope Jayapataka desciples do not put in samadi their guru, otherwise he will live like a gost untill his body will be completely destroyed into dust.
Willian: He has commited many mad Elephant offenses to Prabhupada and to many Vaishnavas who he has put in great dangers,or had been killed by his Gundas like disciples,who are as mad as he is,and will undergo the same reactions.
Peter: JPS disciples are so crazy, they think they can just “sniggle” some rounds and thereby avoid any bad karma. But karma returns whatever you do. Whether Jayapataka will recover from Coma or not, both will be Krishna mercy. We pray that he recovers, so that he might have a chance to ask forgiveness for all of his aparadhas and offenses, before he dies.
Srila Prabhupada: I wish that you GBC manage very nicely and consider I am dead and let me try to travel all the tirthasthana (holy places)…. In the open air and bullock cart or during daytime, eh? Or you can say semi-suicide, although living what consider me dead for the time. You manage and nowadays there is in India ample sunshine. So during daytime I shall travel and night time you make a camp under a tree. In this way let me travel all the tirthas [holy places]. I am thinking in this way. What is your opinion?….. So Lokanatha party has got some experience and let me go. In India the climate is now good. If I recover, it is very good. You know. So what is the wrong? If I die, then the body will be brought either in Vrndavana or Mayapura, that’s all. And if I live, it will be a great end of a life. You are all experienced.
Jayapataka: As much as you have trained us, Srila Prabhupada, that is only how much we are experienced. We don’t want that you be burdened any more with material management problems but…
Srila Prabhupada: No, not from that point of view. What is the use of lying down here?
Jayapataka: The kaviraja (doctor) said…
Srila Prabhupada: Kaviraja may say.
Jayapataka: …that even that your body is going to, is got a life of six to ten years but he said even a healthy cow, if it’s kept locked up inside of a room, then it will deteriorate.
Srila Prabhupada: And therefore I say, don’t keep me locked up.….. All seriously consider this submission and let me go.
[Room Conversation, November 10, 1977, Vrndavan, India]
Actually – it looks as if he IS in Coma RIGHT NOW. Not surprised:
Srila Prabhupada Given Poison:
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Srila Prabhupada poisoned:
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“Jayapataka: The kaviraja (doctor) said…
Srila Prabhupada: Kaviraja may say.
Jayapataka: …that even that your body is going to, is got a life of six to ten years but he said even a healthy cow, if it’s kept locked up inside of a room, then it will deteriorate.
Srila Prabhupada: And therefore I say, don’t keep me locked up.….. All seriously consider this submission and let me go.”
The Kaviraja said that Prabhupada had six to ten more years to live, but that even a healthy cow would deteriorate (and/or die) if it was kept locked inside a room. So Prabhupada said, “let me go.” The question is, why didn’t they (and Jayapataka in particular during this conversation) let Prabhupada go?
Srila Prabhupada is the GURU; they should have immediately followed hs request, his order. Otherwise, Jayapataka’s statement makes no sense if he supposedly loves and obeys his GURU. By not granting Srila Prabhupada’s request, Jayapataka is basically admitting here that he doesn’t, in fact, want Prabhupada to live for “six to ten more years.” So he wants Prabhupada to die – is that what he’s actually saying? Where is this man’s love and compassion for Srila Prabhupada – the one person who gave him everything?
Note: Srila Prabhupada A PURE BRAHMANA VAISNAVA given POISON to kill him. What happens to those Anti Ritviks who were involved? What happens to Anti Ritviks who have stolen Srila Prabhupada’s Temples, money, property,BBT, usurped Srila Prabhupada Diksa Guru position:
KB 64 The Story of King Nrga
Lord Krsna continued: “If some foolish king who is puffed up by his wealth, prestige and power wants to usurp a brahmana’s property, it should be understood that such a king is clearing his path to hell; he does not know how much he has to suffer for such unwise action. If someone takes away the property of a very liberal brahmana who is encumbered by a large dependent family, then such a usurper is put into the hell known as Kumbhipaka; not only is he put into this hell, but his family members also have to accept such a miserable condition of life. A PERSON WHO TAKES AWAY PROPERTY WHICH HAS EITHER BEEN AWARDED TO A BRAHMANA OR GIVEN AWAY BY HIM IS CONDEMNED TO LIVE FOR AT LEAST 60,000 YEARS AS MISERABLY AS AN INSECT IN STOOL. Therefore I instruct you, all My boys and relatives present here, do not, even by mistake, take the possession of a brahmana and thereby pollute your whole family. IF SOMEONE EVEN WISHES TO POSSESS SUCH PROPERTY, LET ALONE ATTEMPTS TO TAKE IT AWAY BY FORCE, THE DURATION OF HIS LIFE WILL BE REDUCED. HE WILL BE DEFEATED BY HIS ENEMIES, AND AFTER BEING BEREFT OF HIS ROYAL POSITION, WHEN HE GIVES UP HIS BODY HE WILL BECOME A SERPENT. A serpant gives trouble to all other living entities. My dear boys and relatives, I therefore advise you that even if a brahmana becomes angry with you and calls you by ill names or cuts you, still you should not retaliate. On the contrary, you should smile, tolerate him and offer your respects to the brahmana. You know very well that even I Myself offer My obeisances to the brahmanas with great respect three times daily. You should therefore follow My instruction and example. I shall not forgive anyone who does not follow them, and I shall punish him. You should learn from the example of King Nrga that even if someone unknowingly usurps the property of a brahmana, he is put into a miserable condition of life.”
Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 5 A Description of the Hellish Planets
The Twenty-sixth Chapter describes how a sinful man goes to different hells, where he is punished in various ways by the assistants of Yamaraja. As stated in the Bhagavad-gita (3.27):
prakrteh kriyamanani
gunaih karmani sarvasah
ahankara-vimudhatma
kartaham iti manyate
“The bewildered spirit soul, under the influence of the three modes of material nature, thinks himself to be the doer of activities, which are in actuality carried out by nature.” The foolish person thinks he is independent of any law. He thinks there is no God or regulative principle and that he can do whatever he likes. Thus he engages in different sinful activities, and as a result, he is put into different hellish conditions life after life, to be punished by the laws of nature. The basic principle of his suffering is that he foolishly thinks himself independent, although he is strictly under the control of the laws of material nature. These laws act due to the influence of the three modes of nature, and therefore each human being also works under three different types of influence. According to how he acts, he suffers different reactions in his next life or in this life. Religious persons act differently from atheists, and therefore they suffer different reactions.
Sukadeva Gosvami describes the following twenty-eight hells: Tamisra, Andhatamisra, Raurava, Maharaurava, Kumbhipaka. Kalasutra, Asi-patravana, Sukaramukha, Andhakupa, Krmibhojana. Sandamsa, Taptasurmi, Vajrakantaka-salmali, Vaitarani, Puyoda, Pranarodha, Visasana, Lalabhaksa, Sarameyadana, Avici, Ayahpana. Ksarakardama, Raksogana-bhojana, Sulaprota, Dandasuka. Avata-nirodhana, Paryavartana and Sucimukha.
A person who steals another’s money, wife or possessions is put into the hell known as Tamisra. A man who tricks someone and enjoys his wife is put into the extremely hellish condition known as Andhatamisra. A foolish person absorbed in the bodily concept of life, who on the basis of this principle maintains himself or his wife and children by committing violence against other living entities, is put into the hell known as Raurava. There the animals he killed take birth as creatures called rurus and cause great suffering for him. Those who kill different animals and birds and then cook them are put by the agents of Yamaraja into the hell known as Kumbhipaka, where they are boiled in oil. A PERSON WHO KILLS A BRAHMANA IS PUT INTO THE HELL KNOWN AS KALASUTRA, WHERE THE LAND, PERFECTLY LEVEL AND MADE OF COPPER, IS AS HOT AS AN OVEN. THE KILLER OF A BRAHMANA BURNS IN THAT LAND FOR MANY YEARS. ONE WHO DOES NOT FOLLOW SCRIPTURAL INJUNCTIONS BUT WHO DOES EVERYTHING WHIMSICALLY OR FOLLOWS SOME RASCAL IS PUT INTO THE HELL KNOWN AS ASI-PATRAVANA. A government official who poorly administers justice, or who punishes an innocent man, is taken by the assistants of Yamaraja to the hell known as Sukaramukha, where he is mercilessly beaten.
God has given advanced consciousness to the human being. Therefore he can feel the suffering and happiness of other living beings. The human being bereft of his conscience, however, is prone to cause suffering for other living beings. The assistants of Yamaraja put such a person into the hell known as Andhakupa, where he receives proper punishment from his victims. Any person who does not receive or feed a guest properly but who personally enjoys eating is put into the hell known as Krmibhojana. There an unlimited number of worms and insects continuously bite him.
A THIEF IS PUT INTO THE HELL KNOWN AS SANDAMSA. A person who has sexual relations with a woman who is not to be enjoyed is put into the hell known as Taptasurmi. A person who enjoys sexual relations with animals is put into the hell known as Vajrakantaka-salmali. A person born into an aristocratic or highly placed family but who does not act accordingly is put into the hellish trench of blood, pus and urine called the Vaitarani River. One who lives like an animal is put into the hell called Puyoda. A person who mercilessly kills animals in the forest without sanction is put into the hell called Pranarodha. A person who kills animals in the name of religious sacrifice is put into the hell named Visasana. A man who forces his wife to drink his semen is put into the hell called Lalabhaksa. One who sets a fire or administers poison to kill someone is put into the hell known as Sarameyadana. A man who earns his livelihood by bearing false witness is put into the hell known as Avici.
A person addicted to drinking wine is put into the hell named Ayahpana. One who violates etiquette by not showing proper respect to superiors is put into the hell known as Ksarakardama. A person who sacrifices human beings to Bhairava is put into the hell called Raksogana-bhojana. A person who kills pet animals is put into the hell called Sulaprota. A person who gives trouble to others is put into the hell known as Dandasuka. One who imprisons a living entity within a cave is put into the hell known as Avata-nirodhana. A person who shows unwarranted wrath toward a guest in his house is put into the hell called Paryavartana. A person maddened by possessing riches and thus deeply absorbed in thinking of how to collect money is put into the hell known as Sucimukha.
After describing the hellish planets, Sukadeva Gosvami describes how pious persons are elevated to the highest planetary system, where the demigods live, and how they then come back again to this earth when the results of their pious activities are finished. Finally he describes the universal form of the Lord and glorifies the Lord’s activities.
Note: Anti Ritvik means Demons:
KB 1 Advent of Lord Krsna
Vasudeva tried to pacify Kamsa by good instruction as well as by philosophical discrimination, but Kamsa was not to be pacified because his association was demoniac. Because of his demoniac associations, he was always a demon, although born in a very high royal family. A DEMON NEVER CARES FOR ANY GOOD INSTRUCTION. HE IS JUST LIKE A DETERMINED THIEF; ONE CAN GIVE HIM MORAL INSTRUCTION, BUT IT WILL NOT BE EFFECTIVE. SIMILARLY, THOSE WHO ARE DEMONIAC OR ATHEISTIC BY NATURE CAN HARDLY ASSIMILATE ANY GOOD INSTRUCTION, HOWEVER AUTHORIZED IT MAY BE.
SB 4.28.48 P Puranjana Becomes a Woman in the Next Life
Whenever an acarya comes, following the superior orders of the Supreme Personality of Godhead or His representative, he establishes the principles of religion, as enunciated in Bhagavad-gita. Religion means abiding by the orders of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Religious principles begin from the time one surrenders to the Supreme Personality of Godhead. It is the acarya’s duty to spread a bona fide religious system and induce everyone to bow down before the Supreme Lord. One executes the religious principles by rendering devotional service, specifically the nine items like hearing, chanting and remembering. UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN THE ACARYA DISAPPEARS, ROGUES AND NONDEVOTEES TAKE ADVANTAGE AND IMMEDIATELY BEGIN TO INTRODUCE UNAUTHORIZED PRINCIPLES IN THE NAME OF SO-CALLED SVAMIS, YOGIS, PHILANTHROPISTS, WELFARE WORKERS AND SO ON. Actually, human life is meant for executing the orders of the Supreme Lord, and this is stated in Bhagavad-gita (9.34):
man-mana bhava mad-bhakto
mad-yaji mam namaskuru
mam evaisyasi yuktvaivam
atmanam mat-parayanah
“Engage your mind always in thinking of Me and become My devotee. Offer obeisances and worship Me. Being completely absorbed in Me, surely you will come to Me.”
The main business of human society is to think of the Supreme Personality of Godhead at all times, to become His devotees, to worship the Supreme Lord and to bow down before Him. The acarya, the authorized representative of the Supreme Lord, establishes these principles, but when he disappears, things once again become disordered. The perfect disciples of the acarya try to relieve the situation by sincerely following the instructions of the spiritual master. At the present moment practically the entire world is afraid of rogues and nondevotees; therefore this Krsna consciousness movement is started to save the world from irreligious principles. Everyone should cooperate with this movement in order to bring about actual peace and happiness in the world.
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The Lord states that as soon as one reaches Him by devotional service–which is the one and only way to approach the Personality of Godhead–one attains complete freedom from the bondage of birth and death. In other words, the path of salvation from the material clutches fully depends on the principles of knowledge and detachment gained from serving the Lord. THE PSEUDO RELIGIONISTS HAVE NEITHER KNOWLEDGE NOR DETACHMENT FROM MATERIAL AFFAIRS, FOR MOST OF THEM WANT TO LIVE IN THE GOLDEN SHACKLES OF MATERIAL BONDAGE UNDER THE SHADOW OF PHILANTHROPIC ACTIVITIES DISGUISED AS RELIGIOUS PRINCIPLES. BY A FALSE DISPLAY OF RELIGIOUS SENTIMENTS, THEY PRESENT A SHOW OF DEVOTIONAL SERVICE WHILE INDULGING IN ALL SORTS OF IMMORAL ACTIVITIES. IN THIS WAY THEY PASS AS SPIRITUAL MASTERS AND DEVOTEES OF GOD. Such violators of religious principles have no respect for the authoritative acaryas, the holy teachers in the strict disciplic succession. THEY IGNORE THE VEDIC INJUNCTION ACARYOPASANA–“ONE MUST WORSHIP THE ACARYA”–AND KRSNA’S STATEMENT IN THE BHAGAVAD-GITA (4.2) EVAM PARAMPARA-PRAPTAM, “THIS SUPREME SCIENCE OF GOD IS RECEIVED THROUGH THE DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION.” INSTEAD, TO MISLEAD THE PEOPLE IN GENERAL THEY THEMSELVES BECOME SO-CALLED ACARYAS, BUT THEY DO NOT EVEN FOLLOW THE PRINCIPLES OF THE ACARYAS.
These rogues are the most dangerous elements in human society. Because there is no religious government, they escape punishment by the law of the state. They cannot, however, escape the law of the Supreme, who has clearly declared in the Bhagavad-gita that envious demons in the garb of religious propagandists shall be thrown into the darkest regions of hell (Bg. 16.19-20). SRI ISOPANISAD CONFIRMS THAT THESE PSEUDO RELIGIONISTS ARE HEADING TOWARD THE MOST OBNOXIOUS PLACE IN THE UNIVERSE AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THEIR SPIRITUAL MASTER BUSINESS, WHICH THEY CONDUCT SIMPLY FOR SENSE GRATIFICATION.
Madhya 1.218 The Later Pastimes of Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu
Srila Narottama dasa Thakura says, chadiya vaisnava seva nistara payeche keba: unless one serves a Vaisnava, he cannot be delivered. The spiritual master initiates the disciple to deliver him, and if the disciple executes the order of the spiritual master and does not offend other Vaisnavas, his path is clear. Consequently Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu requested all the Vaisnavas present to show mercy toward the two brothers, Rupa and Sanatana, who had just been initiated by the Lord. When a Vaisnava sees that another Vaisnava is a recipient of the Lord’s mercy, he becomes very happy. Vaisnavas are not envious. If a Vaisnava, by the mercy of the Lord, is empowered by Him to distribute the Lord’s holy name all over the world, other Vaisnavas become very joyful–that is, if they are truly Vaisnavas. One who is envious of the success of a Vaisnava is certainly not a Vaisnava himself, but an ordinary mundane man. Envy and jealousy are manifested by mundane people, not by Vaisnavas. Why should a Vaisnava be envious of another Vaisnava who is successful in spreading the holy name of the Lord? An actual Vaisnava is very pleased to accept another Vaisnava who is bestowing the Lord’s mercy. A MUNDANE PERSON IN THE DRESS OF A VAISNAVA SHOULD NOT BE RESPECTED BUT REJECTED. THIS IS ENJOINED IN THE SASTRA (UPEKSA). THE WORD UPEKSA MEANS NEGLECT. ONE SHOULD NEGLECT AN ENVIOUS PERSON. A preacher’s duty is to love the Supreme Personality of Godhead, make friendships with Vaisnavas, show mercy to the innocent and reject or neglect those who are envious or jealous. There are many jealous people in the dress of Vaisnavas in this Krsna consciousness movement, and they should be completely neglected. THERE IS NO NEED TO SERVE A JEALOUS PERSON WHO IS IN THE DRESS OF A VAISNAVA. WHEN NAROTTAMA DASA THAKURA SAYS CHADIYA VAISNAVA SEVA NISTARA PAYECHE KEBA, HE IS INDICATING AN ACTUAL VAISNAVA, NOT AN ENVIOUS OR JEALOUS PERSON IN THE DRESS OF A VAISNAVA.
Bg 4.42 P Transcendental Knowledge
A bona fide spiritual master is in the disciplic succession from time eternal, and he does not deviate at all from the instructions of the Supreme Lord as they were imparted millions of years ago to the sun-god, from whom the instructions of Bhagavad-gita have come down to the earthly kingdom. One should, therefore, follow the path of Bhagavad-gita as it is expressed in the Gita itself AND BEWARE OF SELF-INTERESTED PEOPLE AFTER PERSONAL AGGRANDIZEMENT WHO DEVIATE OTHERS FROM THE ACTUAL PATH. The Lord is definitely the supreme person, and His activities are transcendental. One who understands this is a liberated person from the very beginning of his study of the Gita.
Bg 16.4 P The Divine And Demoniac Natures
In this verse, the royal road to hell is described. The DEMONIAC WANT TO MAKE A SHOW OF RELIGION AND ADVANCEMENT IN SPIRITUAL SCIENCE, ALTHOUGH THEY DO NOT FOLLOW THE PRINCIPLES. THEY ARE ALWAYS ARROGANT or proud in possessing some type of education or so much wealth. THEY DESIRE TO BE WORSHIPED BY OTHERS, AND DEMAND RESPECTABILITY, ALTHOUGH THEY DO NOT COMMAND RESPECT. Over trifles they become very angry and speak harshly, not gently. They do not know what should be done and what should not be done. THEY DO EVERYTHING WHIMSICALLY, ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN DESIRE, AND THEY DO NOT RECOGNIZE ANY AUTHORITY.
760628bj.nv Conversations
Pusta Krsna: Some of them will say some things that Krsna says, but they’ll take from other places also. What is the position of such persons?
Prabhupada: He’s most dangerous. HE’S MOST DANGEROUS. HE IS OPPORTUNIST. HE’S FINDING OUT CUSTOMER, something here… According to the customer he is giving something, as the customers will be pleased. So he is not guru. He’s a servant. He wants to serve the so-called disciples so that he may be satisfied and pay him something. He’s servant. He’s not guru. Guru is the master. You cannot disobey guru. But if you become a servant, you want to please the disciple by flattering him to get his money, then you are not guru, you are servant. Just like a servant pleases the master. He’s not guru. He’s servant. So our position should be servant, yes, but servant of the Supreme. So guru means heavy. You cannot utilize him for satisfying your whims. That is not guru.
Dear Readers,
Please read my comments here ;
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Mahesh Raja Prabhu: Fantastic work. Please think about writing a book and/or creating a website to disseminate your research to a wider audience for their spiritual benefit.
Amar Puri Prabhu: I would add one more thing to your list. This man must sincerely humble himself, fall flat at Prabhupada’s lotus feet and sincerely BEG for his causeless mercy and forgiveness. Without doing so, I’m afraid that nothing can or will save him – not even Krishna Himself.
When Tamal left his body in a horrific car accident, many GBC members visiting Mayapur at the time rushed to the hospital to view his mangled body. I think Krishna gave them a clear warning right there and then in very real and shocking terms. Did they heed this warning? Instead, they began a huge P.R. program, announcing that Tamal had left his body in the same area where Srila Haridasa Thakura performed some of his pastimes. They paraded Tamal’s dead body in front of the Deities in Mayapur and later buried his remains in a so-called “samadhi” at the foot of Srila Prabhupada’s sacred samadhi site. Then we had to endure endless eulogies online where everybody and his next door neighbor claimed their fame by retelling a story about their wonderful pastime or pastimes with Tamal Krishna das.
If you go to Jayapataka’s website (which says, “Jayapataka Swami, disciple of A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada” at the top of each page without mentioning “His Divine Grace” or “Founder-Acarya of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness”), you’ll find the following statements in his biography purporting to show Jayapataka’s “divinity”:
“Jayapataka Swami was born John Gordan Erdman on April 9, 1949 (the ekadasi after ramanavami) in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA to John Hubert and Lorraine Erdman. He was born into opulent surroundings, his father’s father being the founder of a large paint factory, which was a multi-million dollar concern at the time of his birth. Later HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja was glad to see that his name – Gordan John (Gour Dhan Jan) – already suggested what Srila Prabhuapda confirmed, that he and two other devotees were formerly associates of Lord Caitanya and that they had taken their birth in the west to facilitate spreading Krishna consciousness around the world. When Jayapataka Maharaja was eleven years old, at the suggestion of his grandfather he cured himself of a skin disease by calling on the name of God.” (etc.)
Further on we read some very interesting statements which certainly give rise to thought (and suspicion):
“In 1977, as Srila Prabhupada’s health was getting worse, he once asked Jayapataka Maharaja ‘What does your astrologer say?’ and Jayapataka Maharaja mentioned ‘that there was an astrologer in Mayapur who had read Prabhupada’s horoscope to Bhavananda along with all of our Society’s leaders about two weeks ago. This man said that Prabhupada was a kind of avatara especially empowered by God so that HE WAS FREE TO CHOOSE WHETHER TO COME OR GO. As far as his future predictions went, he said that Prabhupada’s present illness would go by November 28 when Venus entered another house, that he would take another month to recuperate, and that there would be NO FURTHER ILLNESS FOR SEVEN YEARS (from TKG’s Diary).”
The question begs, if Krishna had given Prabhupada the choice whether to live or (seemingly) die, then why did Srila Prabhupada choose to go? Was it because Prabhupada realized that no one around him wanted him to stay?
Then we see some real word jugglery in action:
“Though all the devotees were hopeful that Srila Prabhupada would recover, His Divine Grace left the planet on November 14, 1977. Earlier, HH Jayapataka Swami Maharaja was one among the eleven named by Srila Prabhupada to give initiation on his behalf when he was seriously ill.
“Based on Srila Prabhupada’s personal instructions about how sannyasis are authorized to accept disciples when their spiritual master is no more present, following in the teachings in Srila Prabhupada’s books that initiation is given by one in the current link of the disciplic succession;
“Brahma is the original spiritual master for the universe, and since he was initiated by the Lord Himself, the message of Srimad-Bhagavatam is coming down by disciplic succession, and in order to receive the real message of Srimad-Bhagavatam one should approach the current link, or spiritual master, in the chain of disciplic succession.
“And the confirmation in his letters that: Generally the spiritual master comes from the group of such eternal associates of the Lord; but anyone who follows the principles of such ever liberated persons is as good as one in the above mentioned group. (Letter to Janardana New York 26 April 1968)”
So now Jayapataka is as good as Prabhupada!?! Funny thing though, all these “as good as Prabhupada” pure devotee imitators are dying wretched inglorious deaths: Tamal, Jayatirtha, Kirtanananda, and now apparently Jayapataka. Coincidence?
There’s no joy in any of this for anyone – it’s a great tragedy for all those involved, including Srila Prabhupada, of course; for all past, present and future members of Lord Caitanya’s movement; and ultimately for all conditioned souls. It’s too bad about this man’s suffering, but then, what about Srila Prabhupada who appeared to be almost pleading with Jayapataka to “let me go”? This whole thing is much worse than a Shakespearean tragedy or even one of biblical stature. It’s the ultimate catastrophe for the human race and planet earth. May Krishna please save us all.
Note: Tamal Krsna went flying thru the windscreen HEAD FIRST in car accident.
Suhotra swami was discovered dead in TOILET in Mayapur. Now – Jayapataka is in coma.
This should be LESSON to ALL these Anti Ritviks who are ENVIOUS of Srila Prabhupada (PURE DEVOTEE VAISNAVA).
Anti Ritviks have STOLEN Srila Prabhupada’s disciples, given Srila Prabhupada poison to kill him,stolen money, Temples, Properties, BBT, Changed his books. The message from Srimad Bhagavatam is clear:
DESPITE WHATEVER ONE POSSESSES, IF ONE OFFENDS THE LOTUS FEET OF A VAISNAVA HE WILL BE VANQUISHED
SB 7.4.28 P Hiranyakasipu Terrorizes the Universe
OF ALL SINFUL ACTIVITIES, AN OFFENSE TO A PURE DEVOTEE, OR VAISNAVA, IS THE MOST SEVERE. An offense at the lotus feet of a Vaisnava is so disastrous that Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu has compared it to a mad elephant that enters a garden and causes great havoc by uprooting many plants and trees. If one is an offender at the lotus feet of a brahmana or Vaisnava, his offenses uproot all his auspicious activities. One should therefore very carefully guard against committing vaisnava-aparadha, or offenses at the lotus feet of a Vaisnava. Here the Lord clearly says that although Hiranyakasipu had received benedictions from Lord Brahma, these benedictions would be null and void as soon as he committed an offense at the lotus feet of Prahlada Maharaja, his own son. A Vaisnava like Prahlada Maharaja is described herein as nirvaira, having no enemies. Elsewhere in Srimad-Bhagavatam (3.25.21) it is said, ajata-satravah santah sadhavah sadhu-bhusanah: a devotee has no enemies, he is peaceful, he abides by the scriptures, and all his characteristics are sublime. A devotee does not create enmity with anyone, but if someone becomes his enemy, that person will be vanquished by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, despite whatever benedictions he may have received from other sources. Hiranyakasipu was certainly enjoying the fruitful results of his austerities, but here the Lord says that as soon as he committed an offense at the lotus feet of Prahlada Maharaja he would be ruined. ONE’S LONGEVITY, OPULENCE, BEAUTY, EDUCATION AND WHATEVER ELSE ONE MAY POSSESS AS A RESULT OF PIOUS ACTIVITIES CANNOT PROTECT ONE IF ONE COMMITS AN OFFENSE AT THE LOTUS FEET OF A VAISNAVA. DESPITE WHATEVER ONE POSSESSES, IF ONE OFFENDS THE LOTUS FEET OF A VAISNAVA HE WILL BE VANQUISHED.
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Note: Jayapataka OBVIOUSLY tried to make out that he was a pure devotee by telling Srila Prabhupada his symptoms of “advanced devotee” – BUT Srila Prabhupada SKILLFULLY put the symptoms of strange colors to HIS PAST DRUG HABIT. AND—-Srila Prabhupada KNEW he was in the CONDITIONED stage hence his advice: IN THE CONDITIONED STAGE, WE CHANT HARE KRISHNA MANTRA OFFICIALLY WITHOUT ANY ATTACHMENT AND TRY TO FINISH THE ROUNDS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SOMETIMES WE ALSO FORGET TO CHANT THE PRESCRIBED NUMBER OF ROUNDS
69-03-11.letter: Jayapataka
Please accept my blessings. I am very glad to receive your letter dated February 28, and noted the contents with great pleasure. The transcendental experience which you had during kirtana performance at the Loyala University is very nice. Relishing the transcendental sweetness of Krishna Kirtana is only possible when one is actually advanced, towards perfection. Srila Rupa Goswami used to say, wishing if he had possessed millions of ears, and billions of tongues then he could chant the Hare Krishna mantra a little bit relishably. IN THE CONDITIONED STAGE, WE CHANT HARE KRISHNA MANTRA OFFICIALLY WITHOUT ANY ATTACHMENT AND TRY TO FINISH THE ROUNDS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SOMETIMES WE ALSO FORGET TO CHANT THE PRESCRIBED NUMBER OF ROUNDS. But Haridasa Thakura even at the last stage of his life, he was chanting 300,000 beads although Lord Caitanya personally asked him to not labor so hard. But Haridasa Thakura said that he would continue the practice till the end of his life. So that is the position of transcendental taste. Please therefore chant very sincerely with your present aptitude of mind and Krishna will bless you more and more in understanding this secret of transcendental vibration. OF COURSE, SOMETIMES THE PUBLIC MAY MISUNDERSTAND SUCH TEARS OF BLISS, SO WE MAY BETTER HAVE TO CHECK IT FROM THE VISION OF ORDINARY PERSONS.
SO FAR THE STRANGE COLORS, ETC., BETTER WHEN YOU SEE ALL THESE THINGS THAT YOU CHANT AND HEAR; THAT WILL HELP YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE. (ALSO, IT MAY BE SOME EFFECTS OF YOUR PAST DRUGS HABIT.)
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Note: Either these people GIVE BACK Srila Prabhupada the Ritvik system he ordered with his disciples , the BBT with his ORIGINAL books, follow Direction of Management OR they will be FORCED into the bodies of serpents and worms:
KB 64 The Story of King Nrga
Lord Krsna continued: “If some foolish king who is puffed up by his wealth, prestige and power wants to usurp a brahmana’s property, it should be understood that such a king is clearing his path to hell; he does not know how much he has to suffer for such unwise action. If someone takes away the property of a very liberal brahmana who is encumbered by a large dependent family, then such a usurper is put into the hell known as Kumbhipaka; not only is he put into this hell, but his family members also have to accept such a miserable condition of life. A PERSON WHO TAKES AWAY PROPERTY WHICH HAS EITHER BEEN AWARDED TO A BRAHMANA OR GIVEN AWAY BY HIM IS CONDEMNED TO LIVE FOR AT LEAST 60,000 YEARS AS MISERABLY AS AN INSECT IN STOOL. Therefore I instruct you, all My boys and relatives present here, do not, even by mistake, take the possession of a brahmana and thereby pollute your whole family. IF SOMEONE EVEN WISHES TO POSSESS SUCH PROPERTY, LET ALONE ATTEMPTS TO TAKE IT AWAY BY FORCE, THE DURATION OF HIS LIFE WILL BE REDUCED. HE WILL BE DEFEATED BY HIS ENEMIES, AND AFTER BEING BEREFT OF HIS ROYAL POSITION, WHEN HE GIVES UP HIS BODY HE WILL BECOME A SERPENT.
Note: Srila Prabhupada KNEW AND FORESAW Jayaptaka was going to DEFY him hence his instruction, “This DEFYING means to DISCONNECT the relationship with the Spiritual Master”.
69-07-11. Letter: Jayapataka
You have asked if it is true that the Spiritual Master remains in the material universe until all of His disciples are transferred to the Spiritual Sky. The answer is yes, this is the rule. Therefore, every student should be very much careful not to commit any offense which will be detrimental to this promotion to the Spiritual Kingdom, and thereby the Spiritual Master has to incarnate again to deliver him. This sort of mentality will be a kind of offense to the Spiritual Master. Out of the ten kinds of offenses, the number one offense is to disobey the orders of the Spiritual Master. The instructions given to the disciple by the Spiritual Master at the time of initiation should be strictly followed. That will make one advance to the spiritual path. But if one deliberately defies such instructions, then his advancement is hampered from the very beginning. THIS DEFYING MEANS TO DISCONNECT THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SPIRITUAL MASTER. And anyone who defies and therefore disconnects the relationship with the Spiritual Master can hardly expect the assistance of the Spiritual Master life after life. I hope this will clear up this question sufficiently for you.
Note: Srila Prabhupada KNEW that Jayapataka had a DRUGS habit and was NOT serious about chanting his rounds “SOMETIMES WE ALSO FORGET TO CHANT THE PRESCRIBED NUMBER OF ROUNDS”. Someone who went to Mayapur told me the “gurus” and the bogus gbc come there for sex and drugs. He saw it happening.
69-03-11.letter: Jayapataka
Please accept my blessings. I am very glad to receive your letter dated February 28, and noted the contents with great pleasure. The transcendental experience which you had during kirtana performance at the Loyala University is very nice. Relishing the transcendental sweetness of Krishna Kirtana is only possible when one is actually advanced, towards perfection. Srila Rupa Goswami used to say, wishing if he had possessed millions of ears, and billions of tongues then he could chant the Hare Krishna mantra a little bit relishably. IN THE CONDITIONED STAGE, WE CHANT HARE KRISHNA MANTRA OFFICIALLY WITHOUT ANY ATTACHMENT AND TRY TO FINISH THE ROUNDS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SOMETIMES WE ALSO FORGET TO CHANT THE PRESCRIBED NUMBER OF ROUNDS. But Haridasa Thakura even at the last stage of his life, he was chanting 300,000 beads although Lord Caitanya personally asked him to not labor so hard. But Haridasa Thakura said that he would continue the practice till the end of his life. So that is the position of transcendental taste. Please therefore chant very sincerely with your present aptitude of mind and Krishna will bless you more and more in understanding this secret of transcendental vibration. OF COURSE, SOMETIMES THE PUBLIC MAY MISUNDERSTAND SUCH TEARS OF BLISS, SO WE MAY BETTER HAVE TO CHECK IT FROM THE VISION OF ORDINARY PERSONS.
SO FAR THE STRANGE COLORS, ETC., BETTER WHEN YOU SEE ALL THESE THINGS THAT YOU CHANT AND HEAR; THAT WILL HELP YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE. (ALSO, IT MAY BE SOME EFFECTS OF YOUR PAST DRUGS HABIT.)
Note: They DEFIED Srila Prabhupada’s Ritvik Order of July 9th 1977 – this means they CHOSE their destiny to play at being AS GOOD AS GOD by REPLACING Srila Prabhupada as CURRENT DIKSA GURU with themselves. What a COLOSSAL LOSS to their spiritual lives !!!! Srila Prabhupada KNEW AND FORESAW this happening hence, he says, “SO IN SPITE OF OUR ETERNAL RELATIONSHIP ONE MAY NOT MEET OTHER AT THE DESTINATION”
68-09-20. Letter: Satsvarupa
Our relationship is eternal. BUT IF SOMEBODY LAGS BEHIND, SO IN SPITE OF OUR ETERNAL RELATIONSHIP ONE MAY NOT MEET OTHER AT THE DESTINATION. JUST LIKE A FLOCK OF BIRDS–ALTHOUGH VERY INTIMATELY RELATED, EVERYONE OF THEM HAS TO FLY IN THE SKY BY INDIVIDUAL STRENGTH. IF ONE IS LESS STRONG, THE OTHER CANNOT KEEP HIM IN THE SKY. THAT IS THE LAW OF NATURE. So long everyone of us is strong in Krishna Consciousness, there is no doubt, you can fly in the spiritual sky and meet together without failure. Therefore, individual strength is most important. And that individual strength is achieved in the association of devotees also. So you can make your own judgment.
Just see how intelligent Prabhupada was – and is! He always said the perfect thing at the perfect time with so many levels of meaning. Like his beloved Guru Maharaj, he was a Vaikuntha man!
There is forgiveness for anyone. Jayapataka swami can change before he will die.
„…When such a living entity comes under the jurisdiction of the material energy, he is sent into one of the innumerable material universes created by the material energy to give a chance to conditioned souls to enjoy their desires in the material world. Being very eager to enjoy the fruits of their activities, conditioned souls become involved in the actions and reactions of material life. Consequently one has to enjoy and suffer the results of karma. However, if a conditioned soul becomes Kṛṣṇa conscious, the karma of his pious and impious activities is completely destroyed. Simply by becoming a devotee, one is bereft of all the reactions of karma. Similarly, simply by the desire of a devotee, a conditioned soul can attain liberation and transcend the results of karma.Ultimately, however, it is not the sweet will of the devotee but the will of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who, if He so desires, can completely annihilate the material creation…” (Madhya 15.179.)
„…The almighty Personality of Godhead has three potencies-internal, external and marginal. When the conditioned souls are condemned due to forgetfulness, the external potency creates the material world and puts the living entities under its control. The three modes of material nature keep the living entity in a constant state of fear. Bhayaṁ dvitīyābhiniveśataḥ. The controlled conditioned soul is always fearful due to being controlled by the external potency; therefore the conditioned soul should always pray to the almighty Lord to conquer the external potency (māyā) so that she will no longer manifest her powers, which bind all living entities, moving and inert.”(Madhya 15.180.)
Jayapataka swami and the false gurus can choose before he will die .They can still say the truth and give everything back to Srila Prabhupda.
Marica:Jayapataka swami and the false gurus can choose before he will die .They can still say the truth and give everything back to Srila Prabhupada.
Mahesh: THIS will be THE test. They have got a CHOICE: If they can give back to Srila Prabhupada the Ritvik System as he ORDERED July 9th 1977, Direction Of Management(1970), Srila Prabhupada’s Original UNCHANGED books then they have STILL got a BIG chance for saving themselves. OTHERWISE – they will be FORCED to accept lower forms of bodies as serpents and worms in stool. Srila Prabhupada states,”NOW, IF YOU BELIEVE THE SASTRAS, THAT IS DIFFERENT THING. IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE, THEN DO ANYTHING YOU LIKE. BUT FROM SASTRA WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE LAWS OF NATURE, OR GOD, IS VERY, VERY STRICT, VERY, VERY STRICT.”
740927SB.CAL Lectures
BUT PEOPLE ARE DOING THAT. WITHOUT BEING FOLLOWED BY THE ACARYA, WITHOUT BEING FOLLOWED BY THE SASTRAS, THEY BECOME GURU, THEY BECOME SWAMI, THEY BECOME YOGI. IT IS USELESS. You cannot get… Here are the process, process is given: tada rajas-tamo-bhavah kama… Tada means when you are fixed up in devotional service, then you can get out of these infections. These are infections. In… It is so dangerous infection. Infection, anyone can understand nowadays, scientific days. If you infect some disease, you have to suffer. You cannot escape. YOU INFECT TODAY SOMEHOW OR OTHER. NOT TODAY, NOT TOMORROW, BUT SOME DAY IT WILL COME OUT. IT IS CALLED KUTASTHA, PHALONMUKHA, PRARABDHA, PAPA-BIJA. PAPA-BIJA, REMAINS AS SEED, KUTASTHA. THEN IT IS FRUCTIFYING, PHALONMUKHA. THEN YOU SUFFER, PRARABDHA. THIS IS CALLED PRARABDHA-KARMA, INFECTION.
YOU ARE UNDER THE COMPLETE SUBJUGATION OF NATURE. PRAKRTEH KRIYAMANANI GUNAIH KARMANI SARVASAH. These gunaih. The prakrti is forcing you to work because you have infected a kind of guna. Karanam guna-sango ‘sya sad-asad-yoni-janmasu. Karanam. WHY ONE MAN IS BORN, ONE LIVING ENTITY IS BORN AS A VERY RICH MAN AND ONE IS BORN AS A DOG? SAD-ASAD-YONI. YONI MEANS MOTHER, AND BIJA MEANS FATHER. YATHA YONI YATHA BIJAH. SO THE EVERY LIVING ENTITY IS BORN–BIJA AND YONI, FATHER AND MOTHER. SO WHY THERE ARE VARIETIES? NATURE IS WORKING. Why not one, one kind of living entities? No. Sad-asad-janma-yonisu. There are 8,400,000 of species. One has to take. Tatha dehantara-praptih. You have to change. But why one is in the lower grade birth, why in the higher grade? Now, karanam guna-sango ‘sya. These guna. These guna, sattva-guna, rajo-guna.
Note:NOW JUST SEE. IN HIS ***CHILDHOOD*** HE WAS PLAYING WITH AN ANT, PIERCING THE RECTUM WITH A THORN. **THAT** IS ALSO TAKEN ACCOUNT, “ALL RIGHT. YOU WILL BE PUNISHED.” JUST SEE HOW FINER LAWS ARE THERE IN NATURE.
740604SB.GEN Lectures
Prabhupada:
abibhrad aryama dandam
yathavad agha-karisu
yavad dadhara sudratvam
sapad varsa-satam yamah
So Vidura is Yamaraja, the superintendent of death. After our death, we are brought before the justice Yamaraja, what kind of next birth I may have. So Yamaraja is not sudra. He is devotee of Lord Krsna, although he has the duty to punish the criminals. Just like a magistrate is always punishing the criminals. That is his business, but he is not criminal. He is giving judgment to the criminals. Similarly, Yamaraja is the appointed magistrate, superintendent. After death, one has to go before him and take the judgment of his next life. This is the process.
So Vidura was cursed by Manduka Muni, Manduka Muni. He was a great sage, but sometimes in his asrama, some thieves were caught, so police arrested both the Manduka Muni and the thieves, and later on Manduka Muni was chastised to be punished by sula. There was a system of punishment. I do not whether (it is) still existing. The sula means one lance, lancer. Lancer, it is called?
Devotee: Yes.
Prabhupada: It was to be pierced through the rectum and it will go through the head and the man will die. The pierce was standing, and he was to sit down. What is this punishment? Is there any mention?
Pusta-krsna: I never heard of anything.
Guru-gauranga: Arabians have this. It is called pala(?).
Prabhupada: Sula punishment. So when he was condemned to the sula punishment, then the king heard that “Manduka Muni, the great sage, he is punished like that?” Immediately he stopped. “What is this nonsense that Manduka Muni has been punished? He is a great sage.” So the king stopped the punishment and immediately came to see what has happened. Then he was immediately released. But he was very sorry, that “Why the judge Yamaraja punished him like that?” So he asked Yamaraja, “Why you have punished me like this?” “Now, in your childhood you pierced the rectum of an ant with a…,” what is called?
Devotees: Pin, straw.
Prabhupada: No, not straw. Prick, pricking?
Devotee: Pin.
Prabhupada: Kanta, kanta. We say kanta, that pricks. What is called?
Devotees: Thorn.
Prabhupada: Ah, thorn, yes. So therefore he was punished. NOW JUST SEE. IN HIS CHILDHOOD HE WAS PLAYING WITH AN ANT, PIERCING THE RECTUM WITH A THORN. THAT IS ALSO TAKEN ACCOUNT, “ALL RIGHT. YOU WILL BE PUNISHED.” JUST SEE HOW FINER LAWS ARE THERE IN NATURE. SO THE MANDUKA MUNI DID THAT. THEREFORE IT WAS RECORDED HE SHOULD BE PUNISHED LIKE THAT.
THIS IS OUR POSITION. ANYTHING… IF YOU ARE WALKING ON THE STREET, IF YOU KILL AN ANT BY WALKING, YOU WILL BE PUNISHED. THIS IS NATURE’S LAW. WE ARE IN SUCH A DANGEROUS POSITION. IN EVERY MOVEMENT THERE IS PUNISHMENT. NOW, IF YOU BELIEVE THE SASTRAS, THAT IS DIFFERENT THING. IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE, THEN DO ANYTHING YOU LIKE. BUT FROM SASTRA WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE LAWS OF NATURE, OR GOD, IS VERY, VERY STRICT, VERY, VERY STRICT. So Manduka Muni also chastised Yamaraja, that “In my childhood, without any knowledge I did something and for which you have given me so great punishment. So you are not fit for becoming a brahmana or ksatriya. You become sudra.” So he was cursed to become sudra. Therefore Yamaraja took his birth as Vidura and was born in the womb of a sudra mother. This is the history of Vidura’s birth.
Bg 16.19 T The Divine And Demoniac Natures
tan aham dvisatah kruran
samsaresu naradhaman
ksipamy ajasram asubhan
asurisv eva yonisu
SYNONYMS
tan–those; aham–I; dvisatah–envious; kruran–mischievous; samsaresu–into the ocean of material existence; nara-adhaman–the lowest of mankind; ksipami–put; ajasram–innumerable; asubhan–inauspicious; asurisu–demoniac; eva–certainly; yonisu–in the wombs.
TRANSLATION
Those who are ENVIOUS AND MISCHIEVOUS, WHO ARE THE LOWEST AMONG MEN, ARE CAST BY ME INTO THE OCEAN OF MATERIAL EXISTENCE, INTO VARIOUS DEMONIAC SPECIES OF LIFE.
PURPORT
In this verse it is clearly indicated that the placing of a particular individual soul in a particular body is the prerogative of the supreme will. THE DEMONIAC PERSON MAY NOT AGREE TO ACCEPT THE SUPREMACY OF THE LORD, AND IT IS A FACT THAT HE MAY ACT ACCORDING TO HIS OWN WHIMS, BUT HIS NEXT BIRTH WILL DEPEND UPON THE DECISION OF THE SUPREME PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD AND NOT ON HIMSELF. In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, Third Canto, it is stated that an individual soul, after his death, is put into the womb of a mother where he gets a particular type of body under the supervision of superior power. THEREFORE IN THE MATERIAL EXISTENCE WE FIND SO MANY SPECIES OF LIFE–ANIMALS, INSECTS, MEN, AND SO ON. ALL ARE ARRANGED BY THE SUPERIOR POWER. THEY ARE NOT ACCIDENTAL. AS FOR THE DEMONIAC, IT IS CLEARLY SAID HERE THAT THEY ARE PERPETUALLY PUT INTO THE WOMBS OF DEMONS, AND THUS THEY CONTINUE TO BE ENVIOUS, THE LOWEST OF MANKIND. SUCH DEMONIAC SPECIES OF LIFE ARE HELD TO BE ALWAYS FULL OF LUST, ALWAYS VIOLENT AND HATEFUL AND ALWAYS UNCLEAN. THEY ARE JUST LIKE SO MANY BEASTS IN A JUNGLE.
Dear. Mahesh Raja Prabhu. You are right:
„THIS will be THE test. They have got a CHOICE: If they can give back to Srila Prabhupada the Ritvik System as he ORDERED July 9th 1977, Direction Of Management(1970), Srila Prabhupada’s Original UNCHANGED books then they have STILL got a BIG chance for saving themselves. OTHERWISE — they will be FORCED to accept lower forms of bodies as serpents and worms in stool. Srila Prabhupada states,”NOW, IF YOU BELIEVE THE SASTRAS, THAT IS DIFFERENT THING. IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE, THEN DO ANYTHING YOU LIKE. BUT FROM SASTRA WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE LAWS OF NATURE, OR GOD, IS VERY, VERY STRICT, VERY, VERY STRICT.”
Jayapataka swami has got HELP. Because if he gives back everything to Srila Prabhupada, then he can become Srila Prabhupada’s disciple AGAIN.
“My dear Lord, let me suffer perpetually in a hellish condition, accepting all the sinful reactions of all living entities. Please finish their diseased material life.”
PURPORT
Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura gives the following commentary on this verse. In the Western countries, Christians believe that Lord Jesus Christ, their spiritual master, appeared in order to eradicate all the sins of his disciples. To this end, Lord Jesus Christ appeared and disappeared. Here, however, we find Śrī Vāsudeva Datta Ṭhākura and Śrīla Haridāsa Ṭhākura to be many millions of times more advanced even when compared to Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ relieved only his followers from all sinful reactions, but Vāsudeva Datta is here prepared to accept the sins of everyone in the universe. A Vaiṣṇava is so liberal that he is prepared to risk everything to rescue conditioned souls from material existence. ŚrīlaVāsudeva Datta Ṭhākura is universal love itself, for he was willing to sacrifice everything and fully engage in the service of the Supreme.
Śrīla Vāsudeva Datta knew very well that Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu was the original Personality of Godhead. He was transcendence itself, above the material conception of illusion and māyā. Lord Jesus Christ certainly finished the sinful reactions of his followers by his mercy, but that does not mean that he completely delivered them from the pangs of material existence. A person may be relieved from sins once, but it is a practice among Christians to confess sins and yet commit them again. By getting freed from sins and again engaging in them, one cannot attain freedom from the pangs of material existence. A diseased person may go to a physician for relief, but after he leaves the hospital he may again be infected due to his unclean habits. Thus material existence continues. Śrīla Vāsudeva Datta wanted to completely relieve the conditioned souls from material existence so that they would no longer have an opportunity to commit sinful acts. This is the difference between Śrīla Vāsudeva Datta and Lord Jesus Christ. It is a great offense to receive pardon for sins and then commit the same sins again. Such an offense is more dangerous than the sinful activity itself. Vāsudeva Datta was so liberal that he requested Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu to transfer all offensive activity upon him so the conditioned souls might be purified. This prayer was certainly without duplicity.
Vāsudeva Datta’s example is unique not only within this world but within the universe. It is beyond the conception of fruitive actors or the speculation of mundane philosophers. Due to being illusioned by the external energy and due to a poor fund of knowledge, people tend to envy one another. Because of this they are entangled in fruitive activity, and they try to escape this fruitive activity by mental speculation. Consequently neither karmīs nor jñānīs are purified. In the words of Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Ṭhākura, they are kukarmīs and kujñānīs-bad actors and bad speculators. The Māyāvādīs and karmīs should therefore turn their attention to the magnanimous Vāsudeva Datta, who wanted to suffer for others in a hellish condition. Nor should one consider Vāsudeva Datta a mundane philanthropist or welfare worker. He was not interested in merging into the Brahman effulgence, nor was he interested in material honor or reputation. He was far above philanthropists, philosophers and fruitive actors. He was a most exalted personality who wanted to show mercy upon conditioned souls. This is not an exaggeration of his transcendental qualities. It is perfectly true. Actually there cannot be any comparison to Vāsudeva Datta. He was a Vaiṣṇava-para-duḥkha-duḥkhī-very much aggrieved to see others suffer. The entire world is purified simply by the appearance of such a great devotee. By his presence the whole world is glorified, and all conditioned souls-due to his transcendental presence-are also glorified. As Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura confirms, Vāsudeva Datta is the ideal devotee of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu.
gaurāṅgera saṅgi-gaṇe, nitya-siddha kari’ māne,
se yāya vrajendra-suta-pāśa
One who executes Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu’s mission must be considered to be eternally liberated. He is a transcendental person and does not belong to this material world. Such a devotee engaging in the deliverance of the total population is as magnanimous as Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu Himself.” (Madhya 15.163)
Srila Prabhupada LETTER TO JAYAPATAKA,
Los Angeles
11 July, 1969
“YOU HAVE ASKED IT IS TRUE THAT THE SPIRITUAL MASTER REMAINS IN THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE UNTIL ALL OF HIS DISCIPLES ARE TRANSFERRED TO THE SPIRITUAL SKY. THE ANSWER IS YES, THIS IS THE RULE.”