“Oh, Mr. Communist, give me bread.”

Prabhupada: Yes. They make this propaganda. They take bread to the peasants, and the peasants go to the church, and ask, “O God, give us our daily bread.” Then they ask, “Has God given you bread?” So they say, “No sir.” “You ask us.” “Oh, Mr. Communist, give me bread.” “Ah, take as much…” “Who is better?” “You are better.” They’ll say like that. But they have no sense that wherefrom this rascal has brought this bread? If God had, would not have given the wheat, wherefrom he would make the bread? But that, they have no sense. This is going on. If they had sense, they would immediately reply, “You are not giving the bread. God has given this bread.” Because he prepared bread from the wheat. And wheat has been given by God. “You cannot prepare food. Therefore God has given.”

Haihaya: Actually, they ask to God and they get it.

Prabhupada: Actually, God is giving us bread, not this “Communist Party.” That’s a fact. But they have no intelligence to reply these rascals. That’s all. Therefore these isms, so-called isms, is good for the rascals, not for the intelligent man. Intelligent man will immediately ask, “Where is your equality?” And they cannot reply.

Satsvarupa: …also based on karma, that one man is meant to have more than another of material things? Is that an argument against…?

Prabhupada: Is there any difficulty to understand? As soon as you say you become manager, that means his karma is better. Where is the difficulty to understand it? Why you appoint one man manager and one man worker? His capacity of karma is better. So where is the difficulty to understand? Better karma, better reward. It is going on.

Haihaya: The communists asked to us what we do for the starving people.

Prabhupada: Rascal, what you have done? You are simply talking. What you have done? There are so many starving people all over the world. What you have done? “Starving people.” I have seen. They cannot give starving people. Just like we went to Russia. So we wanted rice. There is no rice. There was no good rice. We wanted fruit. There was no fruit. So what you have done? I am starving for fruit and rice. You cannot supply me. That is practical. I have seen it. They will offer, “Take this beef instead of fruit.” Then I will starve. So what he has done for me? I am starving. I cannot take beef. I want rice, but you cannot supply me. That I have seen. One Madrasi gentleman was bringing rice for me. It could not be purchased in the market. There is no fruit. So if I want fruit and rice and if you give me beef, it is as good as if I want bread, if you give me stone. So where is the capacity to satisfy the starving? I am starving for rice. You cannot give me. Why do you propose like that, that you can satisfy the starving man. You cannot do that. You are talking nonsense. Can you satisfy everyone? Somebody is starving for knowledge. So how you can… This bluff will not satisfy him. So where is the question of starving, satisfying the starving? It is not possible. Unless he is satisfied, nobody can satisfy others. That satisfaction is in Krsna consciousness. “I am fully satisfied. I don’t want.” Where is the satisfaction? You cannot satisfy everyone. That is not possible. In Russia, there are so many unsatisfied people, so many millions. Where they are satisfied? If you think that “You must eat what I give you,” that is not my satisfaction. That is your satisfaction. So where is the question of satisfying the starving? How it is possible? You cannot force me to do something and say, “Be satisfied.” That is not possible. If you satisfy me as I want, then you can satisfy me. Are they able to do this? Then where is the question of…?

Dhananjaya: If they are not satisfied, then they must do things underground, under cover.

Prabhupada: Yes, that is going on. There are some philosopher. He has written book—he has got Nobel Prize—that “This Russian government, simply terrorism.” He has written a book. He is a famous man. He got Nobel Prize. He has said that “This is simply terrorism; a set of, a group of men, simply under terrorism they are governing.”

Dhananjaya: Solzhenitsyn?

Prabhupada: I think so. Yes. So where is the satisfaction? He wants something. That is… That is not possible. When there is full knowledge, one can be satisfied on knowledge, not by this artificial means. That is not possible. So actually the whole world is suffering for want of knowledge. So we are giving that knowledge. We are satisfying everyone. We are giving the knowledge.

Morning Walk Conversation
with His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
May 29, 1974, Rome