“His subtle body was taken to the gates
of a specific hell by two messengers of Yama“
From Anon Das: In 1986 a GBC guru and Vaishnava acting as an initiating guru shared with me a terrifying experience he had the night before. His subtle body was taken to the gates of a specific hell by two messengers of Yama. This devotee was getting a horrible stench from inside that hellish place. He could hear loud screams of humans getting tortured and they were crying and shouting out for help.
That Vaishnav guru was shocked and was also trembling in emotional pain. The maharaj (guru) then heared an “akash vani” voice asking him, “So (name hidden), do you still want to initiate disciples”? Then all of a sudden the Vaishnav’s subtle body was brought back to his physical frame.
He was sweating and crying profusely. After narrating the story to me, the vaishnav guru then asked me if the dreamlike experience meant that he was not qualified to initiate — or that he was initiating unqualified disciples? I leave it to the reader to decide what the answer to that question is.
Hari bol!
Srila Prabhupada: “Anyone, if he is a pure devotee he can deliver others, he can become spiritual master. But unless he is on that platform he should not attempt it. Then both of them will go to hell, like blind men leading the blind.” (Srila Prabhupada Letter, 14/12/71)
“They cannot, however, avoid the law of the Supreme, who has clearly declared in Bhagavad Gita that envious demons, in the garb of religious propagandists, shall be thrown into the darkest regions of hell (Bg. 16.19-20). It is confirmed in Sri Isopanisad that the pseudo religionists are heading toward the most obnoxious place in the universe after finnishing with the spiritual mastership business, which is simply for the matter of sense gratification.” (Iso 12)
PUNISHMENT IN 28 NARAKA HELLS
THE ROAD TO HELL
Taking other People Karma Does Not Always End Well ?
Comment:
Srila Prabhupada says — the diksha guru has to be able to absorb the sins of their followers — or face severe reactions, including going to the most obnoxious regions of hell after he dies, and yet a number of GBC people posing for “the job of Guru” and taking on other’s sins.
This particular GBC guru was very fortunate, he got a good warning not to continue on this path of being a false guru.
So, if they are not qualified to be gurus, then these “gurus” will take theirs and their followers sins with them into the next life — where they will have to experience ALL the reactions to ALL these sins in hell.
Satsvarupa also says he has dreams where he is being tossed off a rocky cliff and he lands on the bottom getting pounded badly by the fall, but he does not die. Wow, exactly the descriptions of hell found in the Bhagavatam. Why would gurus have these dreams of hell?
I find this line very alarming what the writer of this article says ; ” This particular GBC guru was very fortunate, he got a good warning not to continue on this path of being a false guru “.
What I find alarming is that the GBC reveals his dream to the writer who shares with the readers here on this public domain. I wonder why the GBC did not alarm to his other associates while he was one of the guru existing position himself and let his all disciples know about his realization of the dream ?
It is good to let all the Readers know the identity of this GBC guru and it becomes open for his followers to know and understand the FACTS as it is.
I sincerely hope that somebody answers and sheds more light on it.
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
pamho agtACBSP,,
i agreed that gbc kangooru is been very lucky,the SRI ISOPANISAD also said that the knowledge used to mislead the sincere devotees is more dangerous then ignorance,hh narayana maharaj used to say that in this kali yuga there is not hell for the devotees because of the divine appearance of SRI CAITANYA MAHAPRABHU but i don’t think so i mean may be ex narayana maharaj is still in the hell for teaching the rasa lila to kanistha adhikari bhaktas by promoting himself as acharya and dying with multiple cancer desease because was envious of SRILA PRABHUPADA position as well,
a real devotee is happy to see another devotee there is not competion on the material platform neither in the spiritual one therefore if narayana maharaj was a pure devotee could appreciate SRILA PRABHUPADA devotional service instead of trying to take SP position by reinitiating the disciples of SP like yadurani etc..,
anyway this is a crazy world and we can do whatever we want to do but illegally and then at the time of ante narayana smriti there is a very nasty surprise for all these cheaters in the guise of devotees they are all followers of naraka asura and not prabhupadanugas,actually the hell is waiting for all these fake guru hoaxers to die to let iskcon to go without any problem with SRILA PRABHUPADA as our jagat guru
agtSP ys haribol
acsd. prabhu, do you know, who is or was ” this particular GBC guru got the warning not to continue on this path of being a false guru ” ?
Any body, please answer who knows this GBC false guru under discussion ?
Certainly, they are all false guru in the present Iskcon, no doubt, but I am just curious who is this person the writer is referring to ?
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
pamho amara puri prabhu agtACBSP i heard was hh maha visnu swami anyway i saw hh bhakti caru swami who initiate the devotees on behalf of SRILA PRABHUPADA too so almost everyone is realising that SRILA PRABHUPADA is the only diksa and siksa guru of iskcon agtys ys acsd haribol
acsd. prabhu. Thank you for sharing your insight.
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Pamho agtacbsp, lokanath gosvami disappearance day ki jay it’s a blind world where small donkey accepted to go to the hell with their big donkey without caring for the real path I mean cheated and cheaters both destroyed themselves that’s the worst karma as we can see how the global misconceptions don’t allowed srila prabhupada to be the only diksa guru actually they’re misleading innocent people in the name of guru krsna so not compassion at all for these demons better they die as soon as possible instead of creating more confusions agtsp ys haribol
[SB 6.1.48] “The omnipotent Yamarāja is as good as Lord Brahmā, for while situated in his own abode or in everyone’s heart like the Paramātmā, he mentally observes the past activities of a living entity and thus understands how the living entity will act in future lives.”
PURPORT: One should not consider Yamarāja an ordinary living being. He is as good as Lord Brahmā. He has the complete cooperation of the Supreme Lord, who is situated in everyone’s heart, and therefore, by the grace of the Supersoul, he can see the past, present and future of a living being from within. The word anumīmāṁsate means that he can decide in consultation with the Supersoul. Anu means “following.” The actual decisions concerning the next lives of the living entities are made by the Supersoul, and they are carried out by Yamarāja.
Within this material world we are passing through many evolutionary process and getting different types of body according to the guṇa, quality, modes of nature, we are associating. So Yamaraja can see. When a living being, criminal, sinful living being is brought before him, he can understand through his mind. Just see that everyone’s mind is not of the same category.
So Yamaraja, when a person is brought before him, he can immediately understand that “He was sinful in this way.” Manasa pure devaḥ. Or Yamarāja is sitting in his place, but he is seeing everyone, what he is doing through the sun, through the moon. We have already discussed, through fire, through evening, through morning—there are so many witnesses. And all those information goes to him, and because he is almost as powerful as Bhagavān, he can remember. This is special power. Manasaiva pure devaḥ pūrva-rūpam. Because after death, one is brought before Yamarāja, so before his death, what he was doing sinfully, that is all recorded in the mind of Yamarāja. Manasaiva pure devaḥ pūrva-rūpaṁ vipaśyati. Because they are so recorded, he can see vividly what this man was doing. Anumīmāṁsate apūrvam. Apūrvam means the next body. Pūrvam means the past body, and apūrvam the next body. So he immediately decides what kind of body this criminal, this sinful man, should be offered.