Dear Prabhus, PAMHO AGTSPrabhupada!
We need your help in clarifying the role of Tamal Krishna in the poison- and ritvik issue. If anyone has some information to the following questions, please reply:
There are some rumours that Tamal (who was in Bombay that time) announced himself the sole successor acarya, right after Srila prabhupadas physical departure. There is also a rumour, that Tamal even forged a signature to prove his sole successor ship? Also Tamal supposedly occupied the personal quarters of Srila Prabhupada?
After Srila Prabhupadas physical death Tamal immediately began preaching in Bombay that he was the only true successor to Prabhupada and directed the Prabhupada disciples in his zone to embrace him as their new spiritual leader?
Does anybody know about this or have some information?
Tamal Krishna was later on suspended by the GBC and stripped of his guru duties for a year.
Does anybody know exactly why Tamal was suspended? And why he was re-instated?
Any details on TKG in SP’s quarters in Bombay: how long was he in there, did he use SP’s bed and bathroom too, was it that TKG was told to move out of SP’s rooms in Bombay or that he visited USA and while gone the dev’s in Bombay wrote him not to come back?
The rumour about the forged signature in Bombay by TKG: whose signature was forged, and for what purpose?
Most devotees think TKG was confessing to only ritviks, no gurus, which it appears true, but also he went on to lay the groundwork for the open-door guru policy, anyone can be a guru, so we are still trying to ascertain what was his motive and plan in speaking like this?
How would it affect the GBC and influence them to return his zone and guruship to him?
The previous impression was that he:
1. wanted to shock the GBC into bringing him back with the blackmail of exposing that they were not appointed.
2. after he went to Sridhar M, who said he should not be ejected by the GBC, the GBC decided to let him back in.
3. so what was TKG’s plan? He never said SP appointed 11, he said he appointed only ritviks… Is it to conclude that he was conceding his sole acharya stance.
Any help in clarifying these questions is greatly appreciated.
pamho agtACBSP,
there is one who knows everything on this matter he used to be the assistant of tamala asura godasa but he is still alive and with f-iskcon too is kbs he retook sannyasi on his own,i also see tamala asura to take the position of SRILA PRABHUPADA in SRI VRINDAVAN DHAM after HIS murder by showing to everyone that he was the next acharya he was completely convinced about that, of course bcs is a small asura by over glorify tamala asura all the time that’s lack of discrimination and other small donkey still use to accept him as guru before to give diksa on behalf of SP,
i saw the video the final lesson and i could see how degraded and foolish were bcs and tamala asura in moving completely trapped in the ridicolous bodily concept of life and still they been struggle a lot to occupy the fake position of guru ,you see now after 40 years all their dreams got smashed and some of them already departed with empty hands and a lot of bad karma to pay in patala-loka,
it look like that tamala asura is been suspended because of his competition for supremacy in becoming the next acharya and gkg also is been suspended to give diksa for one year because he was looking in for all the time for disciples ,
i saw also the expression of the dead face of tamala asura after his death and it look like that he could not believe that the yamuduta came to take him in the darkest region of the hellish planets by staying there for many kalpa and also those wretches who done the samadhi of tamala asura next to SRILA PRABHUPADA will go to the hell not doubts about that bcs also for glorify demons instead of SRILA PRABHUPADA , whoever is connected with all these rascals will get the same destination in the hell
agtSP
ys haribol
In Texas ,I was told that he was suspended in 1979 because he was allowing or instructing his godbrothers to worship him..As far as Bombay ,Mahabuddhi prabhu was president and the vyasasana for TkG was said to be larger than Prabhupada’s vyasasana;so Mahabuddhi changed the height or design by minimizing by 2 feet.
There may easily be other reasons but this was spoken in 1979 and 1980.
PAMHO AGTSP
I was at Mayapura Gaura Purnima festival in 1978. I remember SDG announcing on behalf of the GBC that the 11 Rtvics would now be diksha gurus but they would keep low profile. No pranams sung in temple room, no guru puja in temple room, and only for their diciples etc.
After I went to the new Juhu Beach Bombay temple and did service as pujari and deity cook. TKG was Gbc and was there at that time. He had his quarter on one of the ‘twin towers’. I never went there, but he had his guru puja there every morning then came down to temple room with his followers for Srila Prabhupadas guru puja after that.
Gradualy more of my god brothers were also attending TKG guru puja, and would all come down chanting behind TKG, like he was the pied piper!
Then he had his seat built next to Srila Prabhupadas Vyasasana. I cannot remember the height difference, but it was not much. So then he had his gurupuja in the temple room, before Srila Prabhupadas!
I did not like it, at all. I got his permission to leave & go to Vrindavana.
I had met Yasodananda Swami in Fiji The previous year when Srila Prabhupada sent him to install Deities and open the temple in Latoka, and liked him a lot. Gurukripa Swami was GBC for Vrindavana, and I also liked him.
I served in Vrindavana as pujari for a year, as those two swamis desperately tried to keep Vrindavana temple a new guru free zone, with Srila Prabhupadas as the centre!
The GBC didn’t like it. TKG forced Bhagavan to take sannyas in front of Srila Prabhupadas Samadhi on Vyasapuja day. Then the GBC sent an ‘inquisition’ team to take over the temple before the 1979 Gaura Purnima, and installed Bhavananda ‘Swami’ as GBC.
After the 11 new gurus came to Vrindavana. I was there for the histerical occasion when they all sat on their little seats, which nearly took up the whole temple room, for their simultaneous gurupuja!
I didn’t like it, at all.
I left and went on Sweden…..
pamho agtACBSP,
VASANTA PANCAMI KI JAI SRIMATI VISNUPRIYA DEVI APPEARANCE DAY KI JAI SRI PUNDARIKA VIDYANIDHI AVIRBHAVA MAHOTSAVA KI JAI SARASVATI PUJA KI JAI etc….
thank you to HG dwaipayana das to give us this missing informations regarding tamala asura actually we are all glad to see all these insignificants and uncivilise so called ritvik to go to the hell to suffer there all their serious offences that they are still doing to SRILA PRABHUPADA due to their stink mental concoction on the real guru tattva without any vainasva background history in this life neither in the previous one,
yes the guru must be alive and not dead like all these living dead in the name of gbc,they don’t know even what means to be a ritvik therefore they are puffed of their unworthy and fake position but they forgot that this nasty intoxication of be a guru hoax will not last too long because tamala asura is waiting in patala loka with strong anxiety to get the company of similar rascals in sharing the suffering altogether because of the wrong business by keeping to betray a SAKTYA AVESHA AVATARA sent by SRI KRSNA BHAGAVAT ,
unfortunately tamala asura have to stay more in the hell then his godbrothers because he is the chief of the murder of SRILA PRABHUPADA, they are all pagal panik immaginary and hypocandric people by creating problems even when problems are not there because they have to pay their karma in that bad nasty way,it is disgusting to hear about the guru puja of tamala asura even before SRILA PRABHUPADA ,
tamala asura was the opposite star sign of SRILA PRABHUPADA astrologically that’s why he was so envious of SRILA PRABHUPADA and he was completely convinced that he was a pukka acharya he could not believe to see the yamuduta to come to take him in the most abominable and dark region of the hellish planets he was not sure are that the yamaduta?he look like that from the expression of his dead face when he left his sinful body of yavana
agtSP
ys haribol