Did Srila Prabhupada invent something new ?

In a humble attempt to expose the everlasting truth of the Brahma-Madhva-Gaudiya  Sampradayas’ workings, inaugurated some trillions of years in ages of yore, to rescue lost conditioned souls like myself, we come to a strange topic that has been percolating recently. That of: Did His Divine Grace A.C. Srila Prabhupada, by His instructions “invent something new,” regarding disciplic succession; the passing of transcendental knowledge.
Hmmmmm…. this is a valid question. So as all-ways let’s see how His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada answers as to how one passes a perfect recipe called transcendental knowledge, seamlessly, in an unbroken chain.

Srimad-Bhagavatam lecture 7.9.28 Mayapur, March 6, 1976, Srila Prabhupada states,

“So this is the process. Tava bhrtya-seva. We have to… Adau gurvasrayam. First beginning of Vaisnava life is to accept guru, spiritual master, adau gurvasrayam, then other things. Because who will teach you? So we have to approach a pure Vaisnava as spiritual master, follow his instruction. And what is his instruction? His instruction is as he was instructed by his spiritual master. He does not invent instruction. This is instruction. The pure Vaisnava, he does not invent anything new.”

Hmmmm….For those interested in  following  the Brahma-Madhva-Gaudiya Sampradaya, this may lead to; Did Srila Prabhupada misunderstand the instructions of His Guru Maharaja ? Did His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur Maharaja a pure Vaisnava, invent anything new and pass it to His disciples, including another pure Vaisnava, Srila Prabhupada ?

Well, what exactly did His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur Maharaja request His disciples to do, being the directly empowered representative of Lord Sri Krsna and His Parampara, in constant Bhakti Yoga with Him, to keep this glorious and faultless chain intact?

” His (Bhaktisiddhanta) idea was acarya was not to be nominated amongst the governing body. He, said openly you make a GBC and conduct the mission. So his idea was amongst the members of GBC who would come out successful and self effulgent acarya would be automatically selected. So Sridhara Maharaja and his two associate gentlemen unauthorizedly selected one acarya and later it proved a failure. The result is now everyone is claiming to be acarya even though they may be kanistha adhikari with no ability to preach. In some of the camps the acarya is being changed three times a year. Therefore we may not commit the same mistake in our ISKCON camp.”   (Srila Prabhupada’s Letter  to Rupanuga, April 28, 1974.)

Hmmmm… So His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur Maharaja requested/ordered a few eternal edicts to His disciples according to what His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada expresses in this letter. Let’s attempt to examine three which seem to be the most important and relevant to the topic of “inventing something new.” One, “make a GBC and conduct the mission”, history shows Srila Prabhupada followed this order by initiating the same thing in the society He created called Iskcon. No inventions here. Next, “acarya was not to be nominated amongst the governing body.” History shows Srila Prabhpada  followed this order verbatim and it is easily seen in His Iskcon. Founder-Acarya. Founder-Acarya. Ohhhhh? He Did the same thing ? Really ?Why ? Well, let’s investigate and see.

Srila Prabhupada, by lovingly and humbly dancing in tune with His Guru Maharajas Lotus Footsteps, easily understood everything about the complete structure of a Bona-fide Vaisnava society built to reclaim lost conditioned souls, and it had/has nothing to do with a nomination of Acarya. This is the first understandings of aspiring Vaisnava devotees; it is the elementary basic stage of spiritual knowledge.  The cavernous, impassable gulf between the Savior and the saved is insurmountable, as Srila Bhaktisiddhanta stated, because one soul is a fully liberated devotee of Lord Sri Krsna and the other soul is a fully conditioned devotee of Maya-devi.  You say no, there is no such thing, absolutely an Acarya can and must be “nominated” in a Vaisnava society. Well, Let’s check our Sampradaya and other Vaisnava societies quickly  and let’s try to bring the Acaryas  who were nominated by a governing body forward for all to view.

 

Hmmmm…… Lord Krsna first instructed the first jiva and subsequent teacher in this universe, the four headed Lord Brahma, so was Lord Brahma “nominated” by a governing body? Was Narada Muni “nominated” ?  Were the Kumaras nominated ? Was Lord Siva “nominated” ? Was Goddess Laksmi nominated? Was Vyasadeva nominated ? Was Sukadeva Gosvami nominated ? Was Madhvacarya “nominated”?  How about Ramanujacarya ? Visnuswami ? Nimbarkacarya ? Isvara Puri ? Lord Krsna Caitanya Mahaprabhu ? The answer for all of them is NO ! Well, come on, there has to be someone who was chosen by the three modes of material nature, right ? let’s try…… Yeshua Krsna, was He “nominated” ? Hazrat Muhommad ? His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur Maharaja ? His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada ? Whoever you name that is an Authentic and Bona-fide Vaisnava, in any universe, every single time the answer is a resounding, infinitely echoing,  NOOOOOOO !

This toxic creation of nomination, or, self-made god men voting system of Acaryas or Gurus, is a new, revised, enlarged and updated way to commit spiritual suicide, and with reckless abandon. This snare is only and solely for the materialists trapped in illusion, and is Maya-devi at her most finest. Seriously Prabhuji’s and Mataji’s, are we that far gone into the sinful abyss individually and collectively that we conditioned souls cannot understand that we are exempted from the process of choosing a representative of Lord Sri Krsna ? Do we not know and cannot accept that some of Them, like Srila Prabhupada, voluntarily descend from the anti material planets for a mission to save us, stay for awhile, and then go back home, Back to Godhead where they came from, and leave us the methodology to do likewise? Do we not comprehend that this nomination fiasco is the complete opposite example of how Lord Sri Krsna, from time immemorial, chooses to transfer transcendental knowledge from Spiritual Master to disciple ?

And lastly my dear Prabhuji’s and Mataji’s lets examine this statement by Srila Prabhupada,”amongst the members of GBC who would come out successful and (an) self effulgent acarya would be automatically selected.”  Why did His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur Maharaja make this statement ?  Well, because He, being very dear and close to the Lord Sri Krsna, knows the Lord is the one who ultimately anoints Acaryas or Gurus and they appear whenever and wherever the disciplic succession is threatened by avaisnavas. History shows, and according to Srila Prabhupada, the Gaudiya Matha, as an overall unit, showed avaisnava behavior, disobeying His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhantas’ eternal instructions, causing disastrous results to the Matha’s mission.  Why? Again, basics,  one can’t please Lord Sri Krsna without pleasing His representative who He sends here.  However, this did not stop His benediction about a “successful and (an) self effulgent acarya” appearing. Guess who that “successful and (an) self effulgent acarya” is  ? Yes my Prabhuji’s and Mataji’s, it is, i bluff you not, His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada !

Please, Please, Please take notice and deliberate fully on these examined statements.  What other conclusion does historical evidence provide then what Srila Prabhupada did was no mere invention. After all these revelations, one may ask, why did His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur Maharaja even request a GBC and a no voting in an Acarya ? Surely we can see this with a tinge of divine vision, the answer is because the Gaudiya Matha had a Bonafide Acarya, a living guru through Vani, there was no need for any shenanigans called nominating or voting. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta’s immortal instructions were blatantly there, which were to spread Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhus’ mission worldwide.  And yes Srila Prabhupada set up Iskcon to do the same thing with the same instructions, because He, understood and understands that unaltered Vani is Sri Gurudeva,.  Srila Prabhupada is and still is the Bonafide Founder-Acarya of Iskcon, Founder-Acarya, our Sri Guru Maharaja, and His immortal instructions are forever living through His Vani. His Guru Maharaja passed Him a recipe, and Srila Prabhupada being a brilliant and obedient student, instituted it again for us conditioned souls to humbly follow so as to not make the same mistake in our camp.  Some very few of us are following His transcendental footprints.

So, as we can see regarding the passing of transcendental knowledge from one pure devotee to another in the two most recent transactions of pure devotees of Lord Sri Krsna, there are/is no inventions. What there is is a divine union known as Bhakti Yoga. What us conditioned souls who are fortunate can see is that His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada, with Iskcon, attempted to replicate, put the exact same instructions into motion following His Guru Maharaja. Srila Prabhupada set up the exact same, carbon copy, no deviations, the exact same program as His Guru Maharaja. He didn’t invent anything, read the above  provided again if need be. He attempted to re institute the same exact thing He learned from His Guru Maharaja.  To have a GBC to continue the mission, no Acaryas or Gurus selected by vote.  And if we follow these first two instructions than the mission of reclaiming lost souls continues uninterrupted.

So Prabhuji’s and Mataji’s lets attempt  individually and collectively, to kill the unenlightened noise vibrating from the avaisnavas, with divine logic and reason, that Srila Prabhupada and the Parampara has  bestowed upon us.  Yes, We may or may not be able to help them come to reality and surrender with their intelligence to Srila Prabhupada; faithfully understanding He, being instructed by a pure Vaisnava in the Brahma-Madhva-Gaudiya Sampradaya, didn’t invent anything new regarding the transmission of transcendental knowledge, disciplic succesion, in a Vaisnava society, but let’s try.  Srila Prabhupada was only interested in saving Srila Bhaktisiddhantas’ mission, Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s mission, not the bricks and mortars known as Gaudiya Matha.   If our ignorant kinfolk prefer to stay in such a wretched state,  and depend on their material, ecclesiastically concocted manifesto, fair enough, we all-ways keep it moving, all-ways, just like our Sri Gurudeva, His Divine Grace Srila Prabhpada. He has shown through His divine example that stagnicity doesn’t reside with us.  If they resist, we shall let them, as they have so persistently wished, disregarding this Absolute truth, at, and to, their own demise, again.

“What is the use of talking with this nonsense? Better say that ‘You know better than me.’ That’s all. ‘Go away.’ ” Upeksa. Upeksa. Neglect him, because he has no intention to learn. He has come to simply waste time.”
( Srila Prabhupada lecture on Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.22 in Honolulu, May 22, 1976.)

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Infinite Glory, Victory and Allegiance to Srila Prabhupada !!!

Comments

  1. Balaram das says:

    According to the GBC Resolutions ‘Preamble’ to #318, they have now invented a system for MULTIPLE DIKSA AND SIKSA GURUS, WHICH IS TOTALLY UNIQUE IN THE HISTORY OF VAISNAVISM (see copy below). So now they have the self-invested right to INVENT a system of rubber stamping unqualified and unauthorized guroos, as long as they remain subservient to the GBC’s oversight. They have tossed out the Brahma Madhva Gaudiya sampradaya in one demoniac swipe!

    Then they have the audacity to claim that Srila Prabhupada’s system to continue initiations through the ritvik representative process that he put IN WRITING, is un-sastric and not bona fide. In effect they are saying that they have the right to invent a new system for initiations, in their own words NEVER DONE BEFORE, but deny Srila Prabhupada’s right as the founder acarya to decide how his mission should proceed.

    By this ‘Preamble’, Krsna has allowed these fools to “shoot themselves in the foot with their own gun”
    Yhs, Balaram das.
    ======================================
    “GBC Resolution #318: Regulations for Commencing the Service of Diksa-guru in ISKCON
    [ISKCON Law]

    PREAMBLE

    ISKCON’s ethos of multiple diksa- and siksa-gurus serving under the auspices of a global managerial board is unique in the history of Vaisnavism, and so is the challenge it poses: the institutional management has the obligation of safeguarding devotees in their quest for spiritual guidance while simultaneously not intruding upon the necessary freedom of inspiration that is the very heart of this journey.

    There has been an ongoing discussion about how ISKCON Law should be structured to meet this challenge, with proposals ranging from rigid standardization of guruship to full dependence on a policy of caveat emptor (“consumer beware”) provisions. However, the model that seems optimal is one in which aspiring disciples are empowered through education, the vetting process for guru candidates is delegated as much as possible to local leaders, and the GBC, per Srila Prabhupada’s mandate, retains a level of oversight over all individual ISKCON leaders.”

  2. Mahesh Raja says:

    Balaram das: According to the GBC Resolutions ‘Preamble’ to #318, they have now invented a system for MULTIPLE DIKSA AND SIKSA GURUS, WHICH IS TOTALLY UNIQUE IN THE HISTORY OF VAISNAVISM (see copy below). So now they have the self-invested right to INVENT a system of rubber stamping unqualified and unauthorized guroos, as long as they remain subservient to the GBC’s oversight. They have tossed out the Brahma Madhva Gaudiya sampradaya in one demoniac swipe!

    Mahesh: yes Balaram Prabhu, – THIS is what DEMONS do. These are NOT devotees. They are DEMONS:

    Bg 16.4 T The Divine And Demoniac Natures

    dambho darpo ‘bhimanas ca
    krodhah parusyam eva ca
    ajnanam cabhijatasya
    partha sampadam asurim

    SYNONYMS
    dambhah–pride; darpah–arrogance; abhimanah–conceit; ca–and; krodhah–anger; parusyam–harshness; eva–certainly; ca–and; ajnanam–ignorance; ca–and; abhijatasya–one who is born of; partha–O son of Prtha; sampadam–nature; asurim–demoniac.

    TRANSLATION
    ARROGANCE, PRIDE, ANGER, CONCEIT, HARSHNESS AND IGNORANCE–these qualities belong to those of demoniac nature, O son of Prtha.

    Bg 16.4 P The Divine And Demoniac Natures
    In this verse, the royal road to hell is described. The DEMONIAC WANT TO MAKE A SHOW OF RELIGION AND ADVANCEMENT IN SPIRITUAL SCIENCE, ALTHOUGH THEY DO NOT FOLLOW THE PRINCIPLES. THEY ARE ALWAYS ARROGANT or proud in possessing some type of education or so much wealth. THEY DESIRE TO BE WORSHIPED BY OTHERS, AND DEMAND RESPECTABILITY, ALTHOUGH THEY DO NOT COMMAND RESPECT. Over trifles they become very angry and speak harshly, not gently. They do not know what should be done and what should not be done. THEY DO EVERYTHING WHIMSICALLY, ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN DESIRE, AND THEY DO NOT RECOGNIZE ANY AUTHORITY.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    THESE PSEUDO RELIGIONISTS ARE HEADING TOWARD THE MOST OBNOXIOUS PLACE IN THE UNIVERSE AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THEIR SPIRITUAL MASTER BUSINESS, WHICH THEY CONDUCT SIMPLY FOR SENSE GRATIFICATION:

    http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=44093#more-44093

  3. abhaya carana seva das says:

    pamho
    agtACBSP,

    evam parampara praptam imam raja sayo viduh bg.chapter 4 text 2,SRILA PRABHUPADA use to say our life is very simple because we do not have the need to invent something everything is already there and perfectely situated in that transcendental body of SRI ASAMA-URDHVAM,the worse invention of maha maya is the universal misconception of the false concept of i and mine,

    in the beginning the was just SRI SYAMA-SUNDARAM therefore that’s the real concept of i and mine without the great illusion of maha maya because this unborn and absolute aham mameti i and mine of SRI SYAMA-SUNDARAM got everything connected with HIS transcendental body therefore one has to connect everything with HIS transcendental body to get rid of this duplicate and false i and mine of the material world that’s the brahma nistham position under the influence of vijnana maya platform as HDG ACBSP ,

    one must be steady first in this absolute connection with the param brahma only then one can become transcendentally spiritual advanced as SRILA PRABHUPADA ,ignorant people is proud of their degraded lifestyle within i and mine they forgot that this illusion jivasya mohan through aham mameti will kill them within the perfect arrangement of maha maya through temporary i and temporary family of mine,

    these inventions on fake etiquette as family institution as guru hoaxers institution are all immaginary and troublesome inventions because they been created under the false and miserable bodily concept of life through i and mine therefore all these link and sub link are destined to disappear again because they are asasvatam they are all false and temporay flickring relationship through asat sanga sangi,

    agtSP
    ys haribol

  4. Balaram das says:

    “the challenge it poses” ??
    “an ongoing discussion about how ISKCON Law should be structured” ??
    “proposals ranging from” ??
    “the model that seems optimal” ??
    “the vetting process for guru candidates is delegated as much as possible to local leaders” ??

    In other words, they are ‘CLUELESS’, just like the material religionists, scientists, philosophers, archaeologists, historians etc.. Blind guroos/gbc leading the blind followers to wherever maha maya dictates!

    Yf streetsweeper,
    Balaram das.

  5. Mahesh Raja says:

    Balaram das Prabhu, there is a hidden agenda:

    “the vetting process for guru candidates is delegated as much as possible to local leaders” ??

    This means——- what they really want to do——- is PASS THE BLAME on “local leaders” for selecting/nominating their bogus MANIPULATIVE SLAVERY MAKING MONEY SCREWING rubber-stamped guru CROOKS when those CHILD RAPISTS/MOLESTORS, ROBBERS,EMBEZZLERS, RAPISTS, THUGS get FOUND OUT BY THE PUBLIC. This way TRY and AVOID taking a DIRECT HIT.

    “the challenge it poses” ??

    THAT is the challenge it poses: HOW to AVOID public wrath.

    Just like they have created CPO. The so-called Child Protection Office is a RACKET. This is just a FRONT to show the PUBLIC that they are doing something to PROTECT the children – means – somehow PACIFY PUBLIC OPINION when things are looking real dirty and beginning explode. The GANG will go on to PROTECT their OWN goons who are molesting/raping the children. Look at the evidence on Internet.

  6. abhaya carana seva das says:

    pamho
    agtACBSP,
    AKSAYA TRTIYA CANDANA YATRA KI JAI,

    we can say querrel is the homage that the vice pay to the unvirtue of the hypocrisy through the ridicolous bodily concept of life of all the guru hoaxers placed as maha bhagavata worship on our pukka altars of the BRAHMA GAUDIYA SAMPRADAYA while was better to place them in a rubbish bin instead of keeping their polluted fake reflections on our safe altars,

    this is the most sinful and disgusted ugram karma horrible activities in f-iskcon,they think they get the prasadam but they are getting just trouble by eating bhoga instead of respecting the mercy left to us by HDG ACBSP therefore the guru reform is never formed is not complete with all these charlatans that keep to slown down SRILA PRABHUPADA MISSION,

    agtSP
    ys haribol

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