The JBD – ‘Jewish Background Devotees’ Demographic in ISKCON Leadership
BY: MUKUNDA DASA
Jun 09, NEW YORK, USA (SUN) — In reply to Nrsimhananda prabhu’s harsh comments… I believe the term is ‘Anti-Semitic’, not ‘anti-semetic’.
Anti-Semitism is an interesting concept in this day and age. Although Semites are members of the Biblical ancestors of the Arabs, Aramaeans, Assyrians, Babylonians, Chaldeans, Sabaeans and Hebrews, etc., the term “anti-Semitic” (or “anti-Semite”) usually refers to Jews only. It was coined in 1879 by German journalist Wilhelm Marr, in a pamphlet called, “The Victory of Germandom over Jewry”. Using ideas of race and nationalism, Marr argued that Jews had become the first major power in the West. He accused them of being liberals, a people without roots who had Judaized Germans beyond salvation.
In 1879, Marr founded the “League for Anti-Semitism”. (Wikipedia) Nowadays the term is being used to describe anyone who factually or fictitiously claims or states anything that may be construed as being negative to any person of Jewish ethnicity. It has, in effect, been used as an offensive measure to stop any form of critical dialogue regarding the Jewish people, no matter how true or false it may be.
Devotees since the inauguration of ISKCON have recognized the role that Jewish background devotees (JBD’s, for the purpose of simplification) have played in ISKCON. This is no secret. If one speaks of this in positive and glowing terms it is thoroughly accepted without comment. If anyone has a realization or evidence that shows the JBD’s in a lesser light, it is strongly denounced as Anti-Semitic.
Surely there is no harm in intelligently discussing the subject of the Jewish influence in our movement without resorting to being labeled as an Anti-Semite or being labeled a Bigot.
It is indisputable that we are all conditioned souls and therefore subjected to the four defects of the living entities. Unless and until we are free of the modes of material nature, we will not be free of these four defects. That means: me, you, Tamal Krishna Goswami, and the Jewish people. In fact, no culture or people are free unless they are, in actual fact, God conscious. Is this not so?
The samskaras from our childhood do affect us in our adult life unless we are liberated. This means Tamal Krishna Goswami is also affected by these modes and cannot possibly be free from his cultural conditioning. As far as his Atheistic parents are concerned, a Jewish person can be an Atheist and can also be a Jew. Being an Atheist does not mean the person is not culturally conditioned. Atheism is an opinion and not a cultural samskar. There are many Jewish Atheists who believe that Atheism does not negate their Jewish culture.
Having said all of this, I would like to ask Nrsimhananda prabhu why he has only pointed out his opinion of me being Anti-Semitic, and did not make comment on the real issues? The issue is that when you analyze the movement’s development towards academia, liberalism, pluralism, corporatism, and impersonalism, you will find devotees who hail from a Jewish background. The real issue is that these JBD’s are steering the movement into becoming a generic religion and using academia and interfaith ideologies to do so. These JBD’s don’t make public their papers and ideas, which are well guarded by the walls of academia and cries of Anti-Semitism by apologists and uneducated disciples and associates.
We know that these JBD’s are being very secretive in publishing their views and opinions. If you logged onto the ISKCON administered Oxford Centre for Hindu Studies website, you will find Dr. Kenneth Valpey’s (Krishna Kshetra prabhu’s) papers are presented in a list of many other lecturers. The only problem is that his papers are not downloadable nor are Madhavi Nevader’s A Jewish understanding of monotheism in the Hebrew bible: In conversation with Hindu perspectives. Both Dr. Kenneth Valpey’s and Madhavi Nevader’s are not, but the other lecturer’s lectures are freely available and easily downloadable.
Try and find a copy of Tamal’s Thesis. Dr Lipner, Tamal Krishna Goswami’s handler, states in Tamal’s Obituary: “He placed the last chapter of his dissertation on my desk before he left for India. We were due to discuss it the week after his return. It is my intention to seek to publish the thesis in his name after due formalities have been seen to.” Dr Lipner, a Professor at Cambridge University England, has not to date published or made public the work of the student he glorified so much. It has now been seven years since Tamal Krishna Goswami’s demise.
Nrsimhananda prabhu, if you looked at the Jewish influence in our movement from a simple statistical point of view and compared it by world population standard, the Jewish people number some .2 percent of the world population. That is Point Two Percent. If this math is correct, then if there were 10,000 active devotees in the movement there will be only 20 devotees who come from a Jewish background. I think you will find that there are many more than that number. What that means is not of interest here. What is of interest is how many devotees in leadership and senior positions in ISKCON are JBD’s. You will certainly see that a disproportionate number of our leaders are of Jewish background.
As Kailasa Candra dasa mentioned in his article ““ISKCON” Gurus, Initiations, and Party Men“:
“In America, Jews account for less than three percent of the population. But six of these eleven pretender maha-bhagavats, so-called Zonal Acaryas, were of Jewish descent. That’s well over fifty percent of the so-called successors. Why so many Jews? TKG, himself of Jewish decent, was the man exemplifying the whole scheme. Was it some kind of Jewish cabal?”
The fact is that there is a disproportional number of JBD’s to non-JBD’s in the leadership of our movement, especially when you are referring to world population statistics. For example, if there were conservatively speaking 300 senior leaders in our movement, according to world population statistics at least 0.6 of them will be JBD’s. That is, only ¾’s of a person would be a JBD. If we are referring to Americans, where 3% of the population are Jews, then 9 would be JBD’s. But the movement is not made up of Americans. Looking at these very simplistic statistical results we can at least expect that one or maybe two of our leaders would be JBD. If I was to count how many JBD’s I know are in leadership, I would hazard a guess that it would be considerably more than .2% — at a very conservative guess, I would say at least 50% are JBD’s. Do the math yourself and see how many you know are our senior leaders and gurus. You will probably find that the percentage could well be much higher than I suspect.
Nrsimhananda prabhu, how many of our leaders who are JBD’s promote Pluralism, Academia, Secular Education, Interfaith and Liberalism? Then see if I am being Anti-Semitic, or am I being realistic.
Diacritical Theology is the main thrust of the various Religious Academic Institutions and interfaith dialogues. This form of Theology demands an academic approach to Scripture and its implementation. Diacritical Theology, put simply, means that one must use one’s intelligence to critically analyze Scriptural text and the word of the guru or theologian.
I would like to apologize for my mistake in my last article, as I was led to believe that the paper I was given from a very reliable source was, in fact, Tamal Krishna Goswami’s Doctoral Thesis, when it was not. It was, in fact, the work of both Tamal Krishna Goswami and Krishna Kshetra prabhu that was used in a book that was published by Columbia University Press which is part of the prestigious Columbia University. A Doctoral Thesis is an internal process, but to have their work published in a book that is representing ISKCON academics and Srila Prabhupada is a very serious thing. The fact that the GBC is approving that their senior leadership who hold official positions in ISKCON are publishing literature that may be offensive and that misrepresents our Founder-Acarya Srila Prabhupada is a very serious matter.
The result of Tamal Krishna Goswami’s and Krishna Kshetra prabhu’s analysis of Srila Prabhupada and his teachings is clearly evident in this paper. We have no need of Tamal Krishna Goswami’s so-called Doctoral Thesis to elucidate their opinion. To sum it up, they say that Srila Prabhupada’s time has come to an end and it is now the time of the Academic Diacritical Theologian. Srila Prabhupada’s approach was old school, top down authoritarian, and acculturated blind following. Therefore, it was counterproductive for the achievement of the fullest human potential. He promulgated an archaic sectarian approach to religion that did not allow for open and honest religious dialogue and acceptance of other faiths.
In other words, they know better than Srila Prabhupada. Nrsimhananda prabhu, if you were to critically analyze the paper that they presented to the academic world, then maybe you will see what I am saying instead of hiding behind name calling.
I fully acknowledge that there are many sincere JBD’s in ISKCON who are very serious about their spiritual life and are serving Srila Prabhupada to their best ability and with all their heart, who have nothing whatsoever to do with these people. To these devotees I offer my most humble and sincere apologies if I have offended you. My only desire is to have this subject matter discussed in an open and honest manner and to end all this secrecy and deception. For what a wicked web we weave when at first we practice to deceive…
pamho
agtACBSP,
wow what horrible vison darshan i had right now by watching the degraded history faces of all these gundas criminals and disgusted usupers of SRILA PRABHUPADA HOUSE where the whole world can live in and not out by the unworthy service of all these charlatans who are keep to cheat even themselves but they do not know because they are trapped in their polluted guna and karma,
they are also lucky regarding this illegal and stolen spiritual positions in f-iskcon because due to time place and circumstances they can’t do it in the future i mean they could have their mental concoction heads to be cut off immediately if the ksatriya varna was already complete,actually this bad race of jewish already killed HDG JESUS CHRIST and that horrible monster of tamala asura killed SRILA PRABHUPADA who is another SAKTYA AVESHA AVATARA not different from JC ,
they got bad fame and karma for killing sadhu saintly people ,we say thank you to god if we born outside the jewish dynasty because they are krpana and duratma we wish them good luck because they need it more then any other sudra
agtSP
ys haribol
Sri Catanya Mahaprabhu is the only leader of ISKCON.
The association of FISKCON ”leaders” with these so-called “exclusive, prestigious universities” is very, very disturbing indeed, considering the demonic, fascist ”principals” they are founded on. The Round Table was formulated at Oxford University and one of the most influential Illuminati leaders Cecil Rhodes, had a pivotal part to play in it’s modus operandi. These are NOT places of higher learning but have been used for centuries to create a lopsided world view, based upon Satanic ideals and bogus, repressive distortions of history, and rhetorical, mass brainwashing techniques to fit there demonic plan of a NEW WORLD ORDER (which is their ultimate objective) and which was a constant theme of Cecil Rhodes. Gandhi (who had a male Jewish lover) was a puppet of Rhodes (and an agent of British Intelligence) he caused chaos in South Africa to protect the interests of the Jew Rothschilds elite interests, shares and diamond mines.
What do “Hindu Studies” have to do with Vaisnava Philosophy? Why do Jewish bogus “gurus” such as Shivarama call themselves Hindu’s and why does he ignore Srila Prabhupada and proclaim that he is the leader of ISKCON territories such as Hungary etc. These bastards are trying to rewrite history through the “INTELLECTUAL SANITIZATION PROCESS OF THE ILLUMINATI!” This is also a main function of The Trilateral Commission (a powerful component of the Illuminati ”Round Table”) a private organization set up (as was CFR {also part of the RT}) by The Rockerfellers. Would Srila Prabhupada approve of this Hindu bullshit? Why don’t they just present his original books? They stand on their own merit, perfect, complete NOT TO BE TAMPERED WITH BY PRO ZIONIST, DEMONIC ELITIST PSEUDO INTELLECTUAL WHORE-MONGERS AND DRUNKARDS! The Trilateral Commission has this power over “educational” institutions worldwide, to indoctrinate, and mind control the dumb stupid student populations with misinformation….such as The CO2 Global Warming myth (a Round Table, Rothschild political, global scam to introduce AGENDA 21, the for-runner of THE NEW WORLD ORDER!).
And what of Jayadvaita’s association with Chicago University. “The US version of Illuminati Satanist, literary perversion, and misinformation.” Why is he referring to them as THE AUTHORITY in the BASTARDIZATION OF SRILA PRABHUPADA’S BOOKS! “The Chicago Manual of Style” What hogwash is this?
This University is ”Satanic Illuminati Central”, Founded in 1890 with a large “donation” by J D Rockerfeller.
The Rockerfellers have also had a long association with The Lucifer Trust {now called The Lucis Trust}) and the UN. The University Club logo is an owl (a common Illuminati symbol), The Student Fraternities include Alpha Pi Omega (a branch of B’nai B’rith which is the Zionist controlling faction of the Freemason Illuminati. Alumni include, a who’s who of the 33 Degree Scottish Rite Illuminati such as, Sachs, Bloomberg, Wolferwitz, Milton Friedman, Obama etc etc.
Chicago University present president is a Zionist Jew (Robert Zimmer). William R Harper, the 1st president was a member of the Freemason Illuminati. The Chicago Uni’s athletics logo is a C fashioned in the shape of “the all seeing eye” another symbol of The Illuminati as is the Uni Logo of The Mythical Phoenix Bird (which when ‘exposed’ self destructs, then reappears in another form, to bewilder, menace and remain illusive).
Jayadvaita’s “AUTHORITY” in changing Srila Prabhupada’s books, The Chicago Manual of Style who’s later editions involve Judge Antonin Scalia (Freemason Order of St Hubertus) and Bryan Garner who also wrote a preface to the Zionist Jew Jacob A Stein’s ”Eulogy of Lawyers” (or should that be LIARS!) who described himself as a member of “The pero Calamandrei Freemason Society”
Why does Jayadvaita refer to another ”Authority” (in his destruction of Srila Prabhupada’s books)…. The Editors of “Chicago Magazine”. This ‘piece of trash’ magazine is owned by Tronc corporation which also prints “toilet paper” such as The LA Times and The Chicago Tribune both owned by a dirty; filthy, bastard called Sam Zell who likes to sexually harass his female staff and is a member of Alpha Epsilon Pi, which is affiliated with B’nai B’rith (The Jewish controlling faction of the Freemason Illuminati) as Sam is a “Committed Zionist!”
Is this Krishna Consciousness? Is this what Sril Prabhupada wanted? What sort of demonic, asuric nonsense is this? What sort of disgraceful, shameful bullshit is this?
As in world affairs these Zionist stooges are controlling every facet of society, politics, ”religion”, ”education”, the media, television, newspapers, the entertainment industry, the Jewish, Hollywood ‘propaganda machine’, the porn industry, cultural genocide, sexual perversion, war, false flag terrorism etc etc. They wont stop until they have ”enslaved the world” with their Satanic New World Order, (these FISKCON Zionist traitors are doing that already, with the help of their Wall St, Corporate and Political, Satanic pals right now). The only way to stop them is destroy them! Throw them out physically, that is the only thing they understand! They are polluting everything with their filth! They are Satanic vermin!
Daso Smi
Sudarsana Das
Actually they all deserve to be killed. Unfortunately in this Kali-Yuga we can not do this. Because there is no religious government, they escape punishment by the law of the state.
“By a false display of religious sentiments, they present a show of devotional service while indulging in all sorts of immoral activities. In this way they pass as spiritual masters and devotees of God. Such violators of religious principles have no respect for the authoritative acaryas, the holy teachers in the strict disciplic succession (…)
Instead, to mislead the people in general, they themselves become so-called acaryas, but do not even follow the principles of the acaryas.”
“These rogues are the most dangerous elements in human society. Because there is no religious government, they escape punishment by the law of the state. They cannot, however, escape the law of the Supreme, who has clearly declared in Bhagavad gita (16.19-20) that envious demons in the garb of religious propagandists shall be thrown into the darkest regions of hell.
Sri Isopanisad confirms that these pseudo religionists are heading toward the most obnoxious place in the universe after the completion of their spiritual master business, which they conduct simply for sense gratification.”
(Sri Isopanisad, mantra 12, purport)
Guest: “When did you become the spiritual leader of Krishna consciousness?”
Srila Prabhupada: “When my Guru Maharaja ordered me. This is the guru-parampara. Try to understand. Don’t go very speedily. A guru can become a guru when he’s ordered by his guru. That’s all. Otherwise, nobody can become guru.”
(Conversation, October 28, 1975, Nairobi)
Srila Prabhupada: “Only Lord Caitanya can take my place. He will take care of the movement.”
(Conversation, November 2, 1977, Vrndavana)
“Caitanya Mahaprabhu–He is God. Guru more murkha dekhi’ karila sasan:
‘My Guru Maharaja saw Me as fool number one, and he has chastised Me.’ He’s God. This is the example. If one remains a servant everlastingly of the guru, then he is liberated. And as soon as he thinks that he is liberated, he’s a rascal. That is the teaching of Caitanya Mahaprabhu.
Here Srila Prabhupada answers clearly how he became the spiritual leader of Krishna consciousness. Srila Prabhupada did not say by vote, or because he is topmost devotee, or just to continue the disciplic succession. Neither of these. Srila Prabhupada was ordered by his guru. In this way, all the way up to Lord Caitanya, there is no overriding. Anyone can become a Diksha guru … if he is conversant in the science of Krsna. This is Krsna Consciousness.
And what is the answer from these so-called ISKCON leader pretenders? How did they become spiritual leaders? What is their answer? Has anyone asked them?
Is there any evidence from guru, sadhu or sastra that overriding, or using one’s authority to reject or cancel another authority is allowed in spiritual life? Srila Prabhupada has explained that Krsna consciousness is not another sect or sentimental movement, but a science. Srila Prabhupada said that Krsna consciousness is a scientific movement for the spiritual upliftment of human society.
“Sruti-smrti-puranadi-pancaratra-vidhim vina
aikantiki harer bhaktir utpatayaiva kal-pate:
Devotional service of the Lord that ignores the authorized Vedic literatures like the Upanisads, Puranas, and Narada-pancaratra is simply an unnecessary disturbance in society.”
All these so-called spiritual leaders are just an unnecessary disturbance in society, because they are not following the principles of devotional service which are layed down in authorized Vedic scriptures. Neither of them is conversant in the science of Krsna. They are all religious sentimentalists, demons, pretenders, cheaters, liars, thief and rogues. They are envious of Lord Caitanya’s movement. Their only mission is to destroy or stop Krsna consciousness. It is all explained in the books of Srila Prabhupada.
Yes! Gauranga Prabhu, I am in agreement with your accurate statement. The part that stands out for me is ‘unnecessary disturbance’. As time goes on we can clearly see that FISKCON is getting more demonic and crazy by the day which causes greater disturbance in the lives of the devotees who are sincere. This is of course so ‘unnecessary’ due to an accelerated decrease in the adherence to Srila Prabhupada’s instructions, the Mayavada, Sahajiya, Hindu and Zionist influenced bogus ”gurus” and GBC are to blame for this.
Daso Smi
Sudarsana