Class Action Lawsuit for saving Srila Prabhupadas Original Books
“Could we organise a thousand devotees to file a class action case in the USA to get back our rights to print and distribute Srila Prabhupada’s original books and even take back the BBT and use it as Prabhupada instructed. If we just each gave $100 we would have enough to get going and the rest would come guaranteed.”
Hare Krishna Prabhus,
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
Can any of us imagine a world without Prabhupada’s books? The ones he gave us. Can any of us think of preaching without Prabhupada’s books?
Will Lord Chaitanya’s plan of every town and village manifest without Prabhupada’s books?
How many of us are aware that there is a concerted effort to completely wipe out Prabhupada’s books and that the plan is in the final stages?
Aside from this case of impounding these 5,000 sets of Bhagavatams, there are many other signs.
• Have you seen an ISKCON book table recently?
• Are you aware that BBT California was never made active as per Prabhupada’s instructions.
• BBT Trustees are simply an imagination as there is no active Trust to watch over and protect. BBT Bombay signed over all it’s rights to BBTI in 1990.
• BBTI is a corporation with no trustees but with directors who’s business is to revise Prabhupada’s books and introduce other books by conditioned souls.
• Anyone who objects must be vigorously defeated. (Resolution 11 from 1986 BBT International Trustees meeting in Dallas.)
Ok, that’s their plan, but Krishna has a plan also. Sure, He can do it without us, but what is the purpose of Bhagavad-gita then? Krishna didn’t think too well of Arjuna’s plan to avoid the fight.
Could we organise a thousand devotees to file a class action case in the USA to get back our rights to print and distribute Srila Prabhupada’s original books and even take back the BBT and use it as Prabhupada instructed. If we just each gave $100 we would have enough to get going and the rest would come guaranteed.
Could one devotee in India step forward and file a special case against the illegal activities of the BBT. I can’t do it because I am involved in the other case. It is time for action.
Hare Krishna, Your servant,
Jitarati das
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Hare Krsna Prabhus
Please accept my obeisance, All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
Any action that needs to be taken must happen in USA or Europe.
In INDIA, forget about getting anything done. ISKCON is too powerful, unless you have millions of dollars like MPD’s elite “all Indian” group who keeps fighting ISKCON in the courts, making their lawyers very rich.
Srila Prabhupada’s assets are controlled by the “big three gurus” in INDIA, as planned, Tamal’s right hand man in charge of GBC, Bhakti Churu Swami.
JPS and his Bengali mafia controls Mayapur. Radhanath Swami and disciples control Juhu/Mumbai. Gopal Krishna Goswami strictly in control of Vrindavan, especially in New Delhi where he quickly stop Thompson press from releasing the 5000 sets of S.B. books, he is controlling Bhima das & BBT India, in his pocket judges and dollars to bride them.
Count me in for a donation if we can organize legal action outside INDIA and/or will contribute to finance book printing of original Srila Prabhupada books outside INDIA.
Bhima das told me in Juhu he will supply original books if asked for distribution here. You have to do what you can with the powerful ISKCON here.
Living here approx 10 years and going to ISKCON temples for association (no leaders or gurus please) the good ole boys club rule with an iron hand, with Russians and Indians waiting to be initiated by the big three and their co-conspirators, enriching their power & bank accounts.
It is time for action, best in California courts, India is too corrupt!
Sincerely
Rathayatra dasa
Humble book distributor
Comment by Urdhvaga Das: I herewith pledge $100 USD as soon the Class Action Lawsuit is started!
Comment by Hasti Gopala dasa: Count me in for one hundred bucks US but give me 60 days as of today. We are now on a fixed income, retired from city bus driving this year. Loving it by the way. Set it up as soon as possible. India is on fire the demons have no bridges left with no escape from Lord Yamaraja’s wrath. It will be nice to get back on the field after so many years in more ways than one. The responses so far from this article have been very inspiring. Let the final phase of the second Battle Of Kuruksetra begin.
Comment by Rathayatra dasa: Count me in for a donation if we can organize legal action outside INDIA.
Jitarati das Prabhu, I guess that you may have all the support for the Lawsuit for printing Srila Prabhupada’s Original Books world wide from the followers / devotees of Srila Prabhupada.
I agree with this that it can be done by approaching individuals and the groups alike consulting with all the Ritvik Temples authority around the world by forming necessary working committees of knowledgeable people who knows the subject well.
Money will follow through as soon as the functional different groups of people with the accountability are formed for this type of operation.
Certainly, you have well thought over and it simply needs to execute it. Let us continue to further this task.
OM TAT SAT.
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
YS…… Amar Puri.
Please accept my humble obeisances, all glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Any action that needs to be taken must happen in USA, Canada, Britain AND Europe.
Go to court and file suit but simultaneously go to the court of public opinion. Expose the demonic opposition to the real ISKCON using Srila Prabhupada’s voice. He is still leading us, he is still inspiring us, he is still living and he is still speaking from his books. We would not even think about going to court without Srila Prabhupada. We are trying to represent Srila Prabhupada in this case so we must also let the defendant speak. His books are the law books. Use a frontal attack first and expose who they are from our war plan The Gita. Specifically Chapter 16 the Divine and Demonic Natures. Krsna is above all law because He is the law. Bold statement? You bet. When the counter attack comes they will be in a weakened position because their opposing laws are contrary to what they have been allegedly defending. That will become more than obvious to those exposed to these truths. Use the original Gita it has all what you need to end the demonic alleged rule of ISLCON and begin the liberation of the truly pious.
Radanatha Swami, Gopala Krsna Swami, Bhakta Caru Swami and JPS are indicated specifically in this chapter. But that is simply my free opinion for the world to understand so that they may protect themselves from these individuals and all that they represent.
Ys Hasti Gopala dasa
Although I agree that a strong organized opposition should be mounted, Srila Prabhupada had many times expressed the view that law suits and court actions should be avoided as much as possible as these can be an enormous drain on resources. I am sure that many devotees (including myself) are not fully understanding of the legal dynamics at play here and the implications relating to different countries but due to the advent of internet technology Srila Prabhupada’s words and mission cannot be stopped as “the genie is already out of the bottle”. The copyright law, (in the USA anyway) as I understand it (please correct me if I am wrong) is only in place for 70 years after the author has passed, after such time the copyright becomes void and the work/s enter the public domain (which means in the case of Srila Prabhupada’s books there remains another 29 years! before the expiry of copyright). Given that such a ”lawyers picnic” is mounted where tens of millions (or even hundreds of millions) becomes swallowed up by greedy lawyers, is this really the best way to go?
There are many ways to access the words and teachings of Srila Prabhupada and books can still be obtained so I believe money would be better spent on developing some ‘multiple occupancy’ rural projects as this is the second stage of what Srila Prabhupada wanted “simple living and high thinking” as there are many of us living in the ”burbs”, isolated and ”under the pump” living next door to vikarmis in a lifestyle that is heading for extinction and financial collapse in the very near future. Such projects will enable us to immediately put Srila Prabhupada’s words INTO ACTION and rapidly convey those words to others in a practical way. We should try and avoid as much as possible ”the legal system” as this is just another tool of the demonic forces that presently have a stranglehold on the world governments to inhibit the growth of Srila Prabhupada’s true movement and slow our progress.
Yes, fighting in court is not for everyone, but Prabhupada did not always discourage it, especially when the rights of the devotees was being abused. KBI and it’s temporary existence for 20 years is the only reason that you have access to Prabhupada’s original books. That was won by court action. However it is over and the stock of those books will soon be depleted.
I considered seriously, walking away from the court action in India to seize and destroy the 5,000 sets of Srimad Bhagavatam. After praying to Krishna for weeks to get a sign what to do and getting encouragement from many devotees, I decided to stand and fight. That fight is in the court.
I always encourage and have supported rural projects to establish Prabhupada’s second stage and continue to encourage devotees to do it, not just talk about it.
ys
Jitarati das
Jitarati das : Yes, fighting in court is not for everyone, but Prabhupada did not always discourage it, especially when the rights of the devotees was being abused.
Mahesh: here is the evidence that Srila Prabhupada gave instructions to IMMEDIATELY PROSECUTE. And the APPROVAL to SUE.
75-09-04. Letter: Paramahamsa:
Regarding Manasvi, you should immediately prosecute. THE CHARGE SHOULD BE BREACH OF TRUST AND MISAPPROPRIATION OF FUNDS. I have received today the Oath of Allegiance duly signed by him and notarized. When required it will be supplied to you. Therefore I wanted this declaration. IMMEDIATELY PROSECUTE.
76-10-29. Letter: Ramesvara
I APPROVE your efforts to SUE this Ted Patrick and his publisher. It MUST be done.
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“A devotee should have intelligence to know who is deviating. SURRENDER BY YOUR INTELLIGENCE BUT DON’T SURRENDER YOUR INTELLIGENCE.” (SP to Bali Mardana, 1974)
100% agree with you prabhu. We need strong personalities like you to proceed in this battle, and we will win for sure by Lord Krishna’s mercy.
Sudarsana Das Vanacari Prabhu has spoken his mind in his comments which carries lot of weight of WISDOM.
The projects such as ” Simple Living and High Thinking ” are being carried out locally on a small scale in the different part around the World by various Prabhupadanuga families. While these projects are slowly moving forward at its pace, it would be a very good project IF the World Wide Prabhupadanugas come up with the distribution Centre of Srila Prabhupada BOOKS having printed Original BOOKS because the Legal rights of the Copy Righted period of Srila Prabhupada Books in North America after 50 years is coming to an end shortly.
If it is indeed feasible after taking into consideration of its Legality, whether or not Srila Prabhupada books do fall into the domain of the public as it is understood and known then there is no other best option but to pay attention to it and start working in organizing such activities under the able guidance of the knowledgeable people in order to advance this cause as per the suggestions of Sudarsana Das Vanacari Prabhu.
The Plan of 100.00 $ contribution by the 1,000 Donors can be initiated and implemented by organizing an accountability group of people.
Further suggestions are welcome.
OM TAT SAT.
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
We must be able to kep ALL the original books printed FIRST CLASS because the American empire is going down but while it still exist’s we must have millions of the original books printed and distributed ! I will give 100$ no problem WE MUST FIGHT AND FIGHT AND FIGHT !!!
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrim%C3%B3nio_cultural
Eternal glories to Srila Prabhupada. We must first make books a Patrimony of humanity.
So yes, it will be easy.
ys
Krishna Karuna dd
https://repositorio.ufsc.br/handle/123456789/179893
claiming rights to public cultural heritage. A case of field in Brail.
The American courts are under Admiralty Law (martial law), that is why the American flag displayed in the court has a YELLOW FRINGE…
(search … The Admiralty Court exists because the US is under Martial Law).
All US Government buildings display this ‘yellow fringed flag’ because this overides The Constitution of The United States. The British Crown owns and controls the United States and the Queen is the (female) head of the 33degree Scottish Rite Illuminati (which controls Mi5/6 and the CIA).
This order (of the flag) which is #10834 was passed by Zionist Jew Eisenhower in 1959.
“A military flag, is a flag that resembles the regular flag of The United States of America, except it has a yellow fringed border on three sides”.
Eisenhower was a member of The Shriners (Freemason Illuminati) and a war criminal who allowed over 1 million German prisoners of war, to freeze or starve to death in open compounds with no food or shelter in the middle of winter.
Only The US Supreme Court retains a ”semblance” of The US Constitution to bewilder the dumb populace, but this is only tokenism, smoke and mirrors. The Illuminati run the all the politicians and judges through the CIA and FBI (most of which are members themselves) including the Supreme Court and can ‘dispose’ of them when they become ‘bothersome’. This is what happened to Judge Antonin Scalia (Supreme Court Judge) in 2016 as he was ‘a thorn in the side’ of Hillary Clinton, the lesbian, pedophile “wife” of De Molay Freemason, pedophile Bill “I did not have sex with that woman” Clinton.
Over 50 people have been murdered by the Clintons in last few decades and this is well documented on the internet, as they are career criminals and have close connections to the Bush family of Satanists.
The CIA was created (after WW2) by British Intelligence, which was created by John Dee in the reign if Queen Elizabeth 1 (1533-1603). Dee was a member of the Freemason Illuminati and together with Francis Bacon (Rosicrucian, Freemason and Satanist) FURTHER BASTARDIZED THE BIBLE in the reign of King James who was a homosexual and Freemason (KJV Bible).
Jayadvaita described the King James Bible (with all it’s Freemason and Satanic, Rosicrucian imagery) as “That great work of awe and reverence!” Is this what was on his mind when he changed Srila Prabhupada’s books? Awe and reverence to secret societies, Satanism, and the Illuminati controlled CIA? Awe and reverence to Political elites dedicated to the destruction of religion for the benefit of Satan?
The plan to poison Srila Prabhupada was a CIA plan, and the CIA are the “business end” of the Illuminati and likewise the destruction of Srila Prabhupada’s message as it is Srila Prabhupada’s vani that is the greatest threat to their Satanic cabal of pedophiles, murderers, psychopaths and misfits.
SO THIS IS JUST HISTORY REPEATING ITSELF. BOOK CHANGERS BACKED BY SECRET INTELLIGENCE TO BASTARDIZE RELIGIOUS WORKS AND TO BRING THEM UNDER CONTROL OF DEMONIC FORCES, ALL UNDER-PINNED BY FREEMASONRY, SATANISM AND THE OCCULT!
DEMONIC AGENTS INFILTRATING ISKCON AND POISONING THE ACHARYA, TO SUBVERT THE BONA-FIDE PARAMPARA PROCESS OF DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION AND CORAL HAPLESS, BRAINWASHED PEONS INTO A FRUITLESS EXERCISE OF SUBMISSION TO THE DEMONIC ORDER. CREATING A ‘SHEEPLE’ CULTURE TO DOWNPLAY, MINIMIZE AND TWIST SRILA PRABHUPADA’S MISSION INTO AN IMPOTENT, LACK-LUSTRE CABAL OF ILLUMINATI SYCOPHANTS AND STOOGES JUST LIKE THEY HAVE DONE WITH ALL THE OTHER “RELIGIONS”, DESTROYED THEM FROM THE INSIDE OR MANUFACTURED BOGUS “FAITHS”, ALL UNDERPINNED WITH SATANISM.
The court system is a ‘loaded dice’ and just a tool of the demonic forces. We shouldn’t give a fig for their ruling or sanction. Srila Prabhupada has already fooled them! These FISKCON stooges are already dead. Lord Krishna is revealing to all that these FISKCON rascals will go to any lengths to stop Srila Prabhupada’s message, or drown Srila Prabhupada’s teachings, but will fail as they have already failed!
They are only digging their own graves. We should not “cooperate” an inch with these demons!
How is that Srila Prabhupada’s original books are sold here:
https://krishnastore.ca/books-srila-prabhupada-om-21_38.html
It seems that Krishna Books Inc. is specifically being targeted for some reason and not the above.
Hare Krsna LW prabhu,
This link explains the legal dynamics that took place in the illegal take-over of the BBT: You will note there is a spelling mistake in the link, ie ‘tranferred’ instead of ‘transferred’, however the link works regardless anyway.
“How were the copyrights transferred to the BBTI?”
http://www.iskcon-truth.com/bbti-tranferred-copyrights.html
Actually by reading this you will see the ‘copyrights’ were never actually transferred to the bogus BBTI. Just like everything else bogus in FISKCON, GBC, guroos, book changes etc.
Yfs,
Balaram das.
Hare Krishna Balarama Prabhu,
Yes, I’ve read that article. Thank you.
What I mean is that Krishna.org is selling the “original 30 volume” set of SB and the “17 volume” (1974 edition) set of CC at the following link:
https://krishnastore.ca/books-srila-prabhupada-om-21_38.html
So I’m wondering why they’ve confiscated the following books in particular (and not those from Krishna.org):
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=48352
Thanks and best wishes.
Hare Krsna LW prabhu, I see what you meant.
From the following it seems that the objection was that Jitarati published the books from his own account, instead of through KBI which was ‘licensed’ by BBTI to do reprints That’s all I can make of this ongoing aparadha.
Yfs, Bal.
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=48384
Excerpt from this post>>>
“You seem to have quite a chip on your shoulder regarding a devotee, who has gone out of his way, to assist you in the mission of distributing Srila Prabhupada’s books.
Your reaction was to impound them and drag it into the corrupt India legal system. The alleged crime was that he paid for the printing from his business account rather than funnelling it through KBI. To many this seems to be an overly harsh reaction.
What does it take to satisfy you? It causes many of us to question your motivation? Do you think Srila Prabhupada would be pleased with all this; or does that even matter to you?
Jitarati is personally financing the project, will single-handedly arrange distribution and then dedicate profits to the Bhaktivedanta Archives and further book printing.”
Hare Krishna Balarama Prabhuji,
>From the following it seems that the objection was that Jitarati published the books from his own account, instead of through KBI..”
Hmm, seems like a minor technicality (splitting hairs), don’t you think? Must be something deeper going on.
Jitarati Prabhu is likely seen as a major threat, otherwise who cares about which bank account the money comes from? There is no need for them to be so heavy handed. There are 7 billion people on the planet who need Srila Prabhupada’s books. Surely there is enough room for everyone to have their own preaching field and area of distribution.
It’s to Jitarati’s credit that he tried to cooperate because as we all know that’s what Srila Prabhupada wanted us to do. They should reconsider and try to do what’s best for Prabhupada’s mission irrespective of their own desires and ambitions.
Just see how strong and expert Maya is. So much time and energy wasted on nothing. Meanwhile the whole world is going to hell in a hand basket.
Thanks for writing. Haribol!
Hare Krishna, LW and Balaram Prabhus.
Yes, this is just a trifle! This is how FISKCON “functions”….. Power-trips, ”lording it over” and bruised egos. Bureaucracy, all at the expense of Srila Prabhupada’s mission, impounding his books! just to make a point of ”who’s in control”. This is petty-mindedness and counter-productive, nit-picking at it’s worse.
THE PRODUCTION AND DISTRIBUTION OF SRILA PRABHUPADA’S BOOKS IS PARAMOUNT TO EVERYTHING ELSE. TO STOP THIS JUST TO PROVE A POINT IS JUST MADNESS!
So many devotees with a strong dedication to Srila Prabhupada’s books and many kind words also. An interesting Idea from Krishna Karuna Devi Dasi also, which is quite lateral in it’s approach. Her first comment (3.46pm) is in Spanish (which I don’t understand) but the English explanation in the second comment (3.52pm) I can appreciate very much. It only goes to prove that there is more than one way of looking at this problem and finding the right solution, so many thanks to all the vaisnavas for your valuable contributions and pledges of support.
I guess in any worthwhile endeavor the best place to start is with the facts, so lets not get too much into the mode of passion and start ‘writing out the cheques’ just yet! I collected money for ISKCON for around 15 years, seven days a week, so that is not a problem. I look forward to to hearing what other devotees have to say about this topic as it is quite complex and very close to all our hearts.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada’s transcendental books!
Daso Smi Sudarsana
Sudarsana prabhu, where are you located, and how can you be reached.
Padmagarbha dasa [e-mail forwarded by webmaster]
Padmagarbha Prabhu. I have sent you an e-mail.
Srila Prabhupada stated that 50% of moneys collected should be spent on books and the remainder for temple construction, operation, maintenance etc. Madhu Pandit’s temple projects are being promoted on this site. Madhu Pandit is collecting ”Prabhupada’s money” for $100,000,000 Vrindaban Temple! so where is the $100,000,000 FOR SRILA PRABHUPADA’S BOOKS.
Prabhupadanuga means that WE FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTION OF SRILA PRABHUPADA. Recently Madhu Pandit is quoting Nelson Mandela (Knights of Malta), on the subject of ‘mundane education’. What did Srila Prabhupada say about mundane ”education?” Is this Srila Prabhupada’s program?” This Nelson Mandela was a terrorist who planted bombs in market places to kill innocent civilians. The ANC that he controlled murdered (by burning alive, with a rubber tire round their necks and chopping off their hands) over 2000 people. Mandela was an agent of MI5 and made millions of dollars by being a traitor to his own people, who’s suffering is even more now than it was then.
Why is Madhu Pandit not supporting Srila Prabhupada’s books? and instead doing deals with people like Bill Gates (Monsanto, Path) who is a member of the Illuminati Compass Star Rose/Rose Stella Ventorum (who’s members include The Industrial Military Complex, NATO, and the worst war criminal of our time, Zionist Jew, Henry Kissinger) and a devotee of the Eugenics movement? (created by the Nazis).
Why is he promoting Monsanto and “Gates’ Plastic artificial ‘Ultra Rice’, which is “processed” from an extruder (like pasta) and using liar, rapist and pedophile Bill Clinton (De Molay Illuminati Lodge), who is a drug dealer and thief to promote ”UN Food Control” and “slaughterhouse education”. The Clinton’s have murdered over 50 persons who were about to give evidence or testify in court, over their extensive criminal enterprises so why is Madhu Pandit involving Srila Prabhupada’s movement with Illuminati scum like this?
It is time for this pretender Madhu Pandit to “step up to the plate” and support Srila Prabhupada’s books (as he is collecting Srila Prabhupada’s money!) and cease and desist associating with these Illuminati lying, scumbags and demons, with their bogus “education”, “vaccine” and NWO Food Control” programs!