Srila Prabhupada speaks out on false Gurus

Srila Prabhupada speaks out on false Gurus - The Cheater and the Cheated
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Srila Prabhupada speaks out on false Gurus

Cheaters and the cheated

We should be very careful before accepting a Guru

“The sastras enjoin that before we take a guru we study him carefully to find out whether we can surrender to him. We should not accept a guru suddenly, out of fanaticism. That is very dangerous.” 
(The Science of Self Realization, chapter 2, ‘Choosing a Spiritual Master’)

Ambition to be Guru is very dangerous

“Our mission is to serve (…).
Not that you take the place of the guru. That is nonsense, very dangerous. Then everything will be spoiled. As soon as you become ambitious to take the place of guru-gurusu nara-matih . That is the material disease.” 

(Srila Prabhupada Conversation, April 20, 1977)

“That is the difficulty. Everyone sees that “Some way or other, I become guru. Then so many persons will offer me respect. Somehow or other, create some situation. Then I become guru.”
This is going on. Not bona fide guru. (…)
They will drink, they will hunt after woman and have some attractive singing or dancing and become guru. What is meaning of guru, they do not know. Somehow or other become popular and become guru. This is going on.” 

(Srila Prabhupada Conversation, May 2nd, 1976)

One who is disobedient to the order of the Guru cannot be a Guru

“If you become disobedient to guru, then your business is finished.” 
(Srila Prabhupada’s Srimad-Bhagavatam Lecture, August 10th, 1974)

“Because that is offense. Guror avajna. First offense is guror avajna, defying the authority of guru. This is the first offense. So one who is offensive, how he can make advance in chanting? He cannot make. Then everything is finished in the beginning. Guroravajna. Everything is there. If one is disobeying the spiritual master, he cannot remain in the pure status of life. He cannot be siksa-guru or anything else. He is finished, immediately.” 
(Srila Prabhupada’s Bhagavad-gita Lecture, July 4th, 1974)

“The devotee must therefore be very careful not to commit offenses against the spiritual master by disobeying his instructions. As soon as one is deviated from the instructions of the spiritual master, the uprooting of the bhakti-lata begins, and gradually all the leaves dry up.” 
(Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Madhya-lila, 19.156, purport)

Beware of false, unauthorised Gurus

“By a false display of religious sentiments, they present a show of devotional service while indulging in all sorts of immoral activities. In this way they pass as spiritual masters and devotees of God. Such violators of religious principles have no respect for the authoritative acaryas, the holy teachers in the strict disciplic succession (…)
Instead, to mislead the people in general, they themselves become so-called acaryas, but do not even follow the principles of the acaryas.” 

(Sri Isopanisad, mantra 12, purport)

“One cannot become happy by accepting a false guru. A guru should be accepted as advised in Srimad Bhagavatam (11.3.21). Tasmad gurum prapadyeta jijnasuh sreya uttamam: One should approach a bona fide guru to inquire about the highest benefit of life. (…)
If one is able to obtain the dust of the lotus feet of such a guru, his life becomes successful. Otherwise he is baffled both in this life and in the next.” 

(Srimad-Bhagavatam 5.14.13, purport)

“The misguided conditioned soul also approaches so-called sadhus and svamiswho preach against the principles of the Vedas. He does not receive benefit from them, either in the present or in the future (…)
To get some material benefit, the conditioned soul approaches these pseudo sannyasis and yogis for cheap blessings, but he does not receive any benefit from them, either spiritual or material.” 

(Srimad-Bhagavatam 5.14.13, translation and purport)

Srila Prabhupada warns of jealous people accepting service in ISKCON

“There are many jealous people in the dress of Vaisnavas in this Krsna consciousness movement, and they should be completely neglected. There is no need to serve a jealous person who is in the dress of a Vaisnava.” 
(Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Madhya-lila, 1.218 purport)

“A jealous person in the dress of a Vaisnava is not at all happy to see the success of another Vaisnava in receiving the Lord’s mercy. Unfortunately, in this Age of Kali there are many mundane persons in the dress of Vaisnavas, and Srila BhaktivinodaThakura has described them as disciples of Kali. He says, kali-cela. He indicates that there is another Vaisnava, a pseudo Vaisnava with tilaka on his nose and kanthi beads around his neck. Such a pseudo Vaisnava associates with money and women and is jealous of successful Vaisnavas. Although passing for a Vaisnava, his only business is earning money in the dress of a Vaisnava.” 
(Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Madhya-lila, 1.218 purport)

The fate of such false Gurus

“These rogues are the most dangerous elements in human society. Because there is no religious government, they escape punishment by the law of the state. They cannot, however, escape the law of the Supreme, who has clearly declared in Bhagavad gita (16.19-20) that envious demons in the garb of religious propagandists shall be thrown into the darkest regions of hell. Sri Isopanisad confirms that these pseudo religionists are heading toward the most obnoxious place in the universe after the completion of their spiritual master business, which they conduct simply for sense gratification.”
(Sri Isopanisad, mantra 12, purport)

The Dumbed Down IskCon Disciple

The Dumbed Down IskCon Disciple

Due to the GBC and Rubberstamped Gurus’ ‘fake it till you make it” mentality, our society has been incrementally dumbed down. The foremost ‘catch cry’ to dumb down the members of our Vaiṣṇava society is the “Chant and be Happy” cliché. When Śrīla Prabhupāda used this, his meaning was to teach us to chant the Holy Names of the Lord, therefore our hearts will be purified so we can learn what true happiness is, however, when the GBC, Guru’s or their apologists use this term it is used to teach us to learn to differentiate between what is our business and what is their business. In other words, mind our own business and let them get on with ruining the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement from within.

Śrīla Prabhupāda established only two types of official roles in ISKCON – Managerial and Spiritual. The GBC and Temple Presidents manage the day to day running of the society and the Sannyāsa ashram makes sure that all our members are being spiritually nourished. Śrīla Prabhupāda did not mandate anyone or any role to have the power to change anything in his ISKCON Society. If any one of the members of the various roles within our society ‘fails to act’ according to Śrīla Prabhupāda’s teachings and instructions, they are subject to reprimand and correction as within any normal society or community. Having a position within ISKCON does not give anyone license to change or engage in illicit/illegal activity without sanction, reprimand or correction. This is true for both the leaders and the members of our Vaiṣṇava Society.

I specifically highlighted ‘members’ in the above passage as the members of ISKCON are not followers of anyone who happens to be in an official position within the ISKCON hierarchy – we are followers of Śrīla Prabhupāda and no man who happens to be in a official position within our ISKCON Society. Śrīla Prabhupāda wanted us to be independently intelligent and not to simply follow the leader…

He also established ISKCON for us, the worldwide society of Vaiṣṇavas, not for the GBC or the Rubberstamped Gurus private Guru Franchised Businesses. Therefore it is well within our jurisdiction to influence the policies, programs and activities of any leader within the ISKCON infrastructure. It is not only well within our influence and therefore responsibility – it is our duty!

This is true intelligence. To be able to surrender to the pure devotee / ambassador of the Lord and not some pretentious jīva baddha imposter who has been “voted in as one” by their peers not by us and it is especially so if any one of them fails to act as representatives of Śrīla Prabhupāda or one who obviously lacks the spiritual acumen to truly represent the Ācārya.

The present GBC and Rubberstamped Guru’s have woven a web of deceit and lies within the mindset of our Vaiṣṇava society that Śrīla Prabhupāda wanted all his disciples to become dīkṣā gurus no matter what level of Kṛṣṇa consciousness they may. They have acculturated the ideology within our Vaiṣṇava society that so long as you pretend to be a pure devotee it is okay. “FAKE IT TILL YOU MAKE IT” 

You know you have “MADE IT” when your disciples believe that you are a śuddha bhakta sent by the Lord to perform the same role and function as Śrīla Prabhupāda. NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY OR WHAT YOU DO.

The ISKCON institution will support the Guru at all cost until it is absolutely ridiculous to support such an obvious fool. Any finger pointing at one of those pseudo Vaiṣṇava’s that they have appointed as a guru, means that they [The GBC] themselves are completely unqualified to be appoint or supervise anyone into the preeminent role of a dīkṣā guru what to speak of any managerial role within our Vaiṣṇava Society.

The disciples are the ones who this is all about. The disciples are mere resources that provide; money fame admiration and worship for the crooked gurus’s huge false egos. Once the disciple has “bought in” to their lies and deceit they have hundreds and perhaps thousands of people who will cover for their sensual weakness and fall down with their misplaced loyalty which was actually meant for Śrīla Prabhupāda.

The disciple will go to great lengths in order to protect their fallen guru

How many blatantly obvious cases of fall down does the general ISKCON devotee have to see before they wake up? How stupid are we as a society to hear time and time again about the fall down within the leaders of our Vaiṣṇava society in the GBC, Sannyāsa asrama and the Rubberstamped Gurus?? Each and every incident of fall downs and deviations that have occurred in ISKCON over the decades has not even caused a tiny ripple in the thick skin of denial and ‘cover up’ consciousness of our devotional community. This is a terrible indictment on the level of consciousness of our worldwide Vaiṣṇava Society.

The manner in which the vast majority of devotees have callously ignored the fact that our leaders are corrupt and that they are intentionally ruining our Vaiṣṇava Society is indicative of our level of consciousness as a society as a whole. Our society has become anaesthetised to the foul activities of our leaders. We stand there as if intoxicated while they relentlessly destroy everything that we should hold sacrosanct.

The most precious gift that Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa has given to us is His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Śrīla Prabhupāda. We have all allowed our heretical and deviant leaders to relegate him to a ‘Past Ācārya’ who is DEAD! Yes they think, act and train their naive disciples to believe that Śrīla Prabhupāda is an anachronism and that he is DEAD and gone and that they call the shots.

The Dumbed Down IskCon Disciple

Isk’CONs mass indoctrination of devotees, blind followers

The mass indoctrination and the subsequent acceptance by a vast majority of the active members of ISKCON of the “ŚRĪLA PRABHUPĀDA IS DEAD AND GONE” ideology has severed our society’s link with the paramparā and created a spiritually and intellectually bankrupt society. The fact that we, as a society, ignore or knowingly allow our corrupted and spiritually bankrupt leaders to subvert and change every single aspect of the society that Śrīla Prabhupāda established, is stark testament to the lack cohesiveness to each other and Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Where is the morality in our society when we allow our leaders to corrupt everything that we should hold sacred and sacrosanct? The stark example of this is how we have allowed the leaders who participated in the neglect and abuse of our children to still remain in position. What we have become is the polar opposite to a society based on Daivi Varnasrama dharma. Just think about it for a second. Which ISKCON leader, be it a guru or a GBC or a Temple President, had to courage and integrity to make an official stand against the widespread and heinous abuse of our children? NONE OF THEM. Every single one of them helped to cover it up at the expense of everything we should hold sacred.

What does this say about us as a society? Can we say we are a moral religious society? Can we say that Śrīla Prabhupāda and Lord Kṛṣṇa approves of us; both as individuals and as a society as a whole?

We have played into the hands of the Demon Kali and allowed the glorious society that Śrīla Prabhupāda established to be corrupted to the point that it creates mindless fawning followers instead of independently intelligent aspiring Vaiṣṇavas.

We cannot place the full blame on the Kali Chelas in the guise of Gurus and GBC and Temple Presidents who have relentlessly preached their dumbing down ideologies. We are to blame for letting them.

Each and every time one of us sits on his or her hands and says nothing or does nothing only confirms the disciple’s belief that they are right and we are wrong. It is way beyond time that we stop only reading material like this or hearing the crimes and offences against the pure devotee His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Śrīla Prabhupāda and stood up to be counted.

For way too long have we had to eat humble pie and be silent when the disciples of these reprobate gurus make a mockery of our intelligence, Śrīla Prabhupāda and the paramparā. For too long have we had to listen to ‘Oh gurudev said this’ or ‘gurudev did that’ and not say the truth about their gurudev who we knew was fallen.

I remember a conversation with a prospective disciple of a guru, who unknown to them, was banned by the GBC and not allowed to initiate for a period of time. They were confused as to why their gurudev refused to initiate them. As it turned out he did not tell them the truth but said instead that he was too busy and ill to give any more initiations for a couple of years. Why lie? Why deceive their disciples? There is absolutely nothing good in this.

If the prospective disciple was told the truth by their guru that he had fallen down sexually with prostitutes then perhaps the prospective disciple would not have sought initiation from them in the first place. Why? Because they would know firsthand that their so called guru was unqualified to give dīkṣā initiation, which would create a precedent within our society that if applied to all our so called dīkṣā gurus would mean their demise.

The disciples need to know the history of our society, they need to hear the truth about their guru’s misbehaviour and fall down. It is way past the time that we should be concerned about hurting their feelings or sensibilities when they hurt our feelings and sensibilities when they think and act like we no longer need Śrīla Prabhupāda that he is dead and gone and so we should just shut up and put up with them and their gurus. They need to be told the truth. They will never hear it from their gurus or from the GBC who sanitize everything to keep the general ISKCON devotees and especially their disciples dumbed down.

The disciples, if they are sincere, will get over the fact that they were cheated by their bogus gurus and the GBC. They must be told the truth and let them decide if they still want to be cheated. It is only then that men like Indradyumna Swami will finally give up and get real. I am sure that if you were cheated you would also want to be told the truth.

However, these disciples have been cheated by a false belief that their appointed gurus are pure devotees and represent Lord Kṛṣṇa and so they become self righteous and subsequently aggressively defend their guru’s honour and their decision to accept him as their guru.

Frankly speaking, most of those blind followers of bogus gurus are plain idiots! We are showing them evidence and they won’t accept. How many children were raped and molested by Kiritanananda and his stupid disciples, like your very own guru Radhanatha, did nothing to stop it? They supported him and not only said or did nothing but murdered any opposition to their regime and these reprobates still praised Kiritanananda years after his lecherous and criminal behaviour was exposed!

What is wrong with you so-called devotees that you don’t see it as wrong that a pure devotee molests little children? What is wrong with you blind followers that you cannot accept that an old man in his sixties should be parading around with Barbie Dolls in saris taking photos of little semi naked girls on a beach when they are supposed to be in the renounced celibate order? Why have you become so idioticly stupid, dumbed down like an ass???

Comments

  1. Pamho agtacbsp

    we can see how disgusting is to witness the truth by getting misunderstood by all these nasty kali cela who are small demons who try to make spiritual advancement by serving some others demons who are more advanced then them by killing guru disciples etc… there are still many fake disciples and fake guru but they cant do that in the real iskcon i mean ssgg will kill all of them as did with tamala asura jaya tirtha etc…all these stupid donkey are worse then a real donkey anyway is not easy to get prem puman artho mahan with all these envious snake we wish them to die soon

    agtacbsp
    ys haribol

  2. pamho prabhu
    agtacbsp

    as we can see fiskcon with fiskcon don’t go agreed each other and they will distroy each other in that way because all of them are cheaters by keeping stealing ssgg property i think someone already thought to finish all of them by starting the real iskcon again with hdg acbsp we are all waiting to get rid of the fake reflection of iskcon because if things still go wrong is because of all the society disorders created by their own false ego forgetting to engage the senses in sri hrisikesa and the hrisikena get kill by sri kalo smi so this fiskcon will be over soon that what we can feel with the nasty advancement of kali yuga

    agtacbsp
    ys haribol

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