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CRITICISM – JUDGEMENT – DISCRIMINATION
I am sick, tired, and weary of individuals who have crucial misunderstandings of what is criticism, what is judgement – and what is discrimination.
According to their logic it would follow that great warriors who remained silent and did not stand up to protect the honour of Śrīmatī Draupadī were perfectly correct and displayed the topmost ethical standards in the assembly hall.
Śrīmatī Draupadī
Painting by Raja Ravi Varma
A few Realizations from Communication with Devotees
1.) Thoroughly honest devotees – honest with themselves and others – are a rare breed indeed. And it is a splendid thing that they do exist. I am tremendously grateful for that.
2.) I am more and more convinced that most devotees – although basically nice people – are in denial even when confronted with undisputable visual evidence.
Or, they just do not have the ability to discriminate. Which is lamentable. There is nothing we can do about the latter type.
3.) I have to repeat that devotees in general do not seem to be very fond of the truth in general. It disturbs them. Which raises the question how they will ever approach the Absolute Truth.
4.) There are many more duly initiated disciples of His Divine Grace A.C Bhaktivedanta Swami than I thought – who are in the above categories, namely 2 and 3.
They usually prefer to talk about past glories and rather “share the nectar.”
Obviously, there is nothing wrong with sharing nectar. The nectar, however, becomes unpalatable to me when the very real and urgent issues never get seriously addressed. Not in more than fourty years.
5.) One of the most serious and urgent issue is that of child abuse. Sure, there have been some laudable endeavours for child protection throughout the years – only to be thwarted by those who are in the position to manipulate others under their “care.”
6.) I am not a subscriber to conspiracy theories. My view is that in this dark age of quarrel it will be difficult to keep a conspiracy alive for extended periods of time. (Because of internal quarrels, that is).
However, I am convinced more than ever before that there is an organized sinister cartel of paedophiles at play in the top ranks of ISKCON. They maybe be smiling at you, they may give “inspiring” lectures, they may sing “ecstatic kirtans,” they may present “Prabhupada nectar.”
I am very much astonished how many devotees are snow blind due to saffron attire and tilaka worn – in some cases – by the lowest of mankind.
7.) The fear to commit Vaishnava Aparadha is deeply implanted and rooted in the rank and file devotees. The most hackneyed and stale items from the mouldy drawers of the ISKCON propaganda cabinet such as “you are envious” or the equally popular “you are committing a great offence” still seem to do the trick.
Persons who abuse children, or protect those criminals, have no scruple to abuse the Bhagavad-gītā and other scriptures either – namely, quoting verses to let criminals of the hook. Bhagavad-gītā 9.30 seems to be the most popular.
8.) I will not get into details today in regard to other urgent issues or persons. Only this much for an example:
The man who comes by the name of Radhanath “Swami” is highly regarded and considered today’s top leader of the institution by many. Candramauli Swami is on record for calling that man the “present self-effulgent acarya.” I therefore go on record for saying that Candamauli Swami is a misleading idiot number one.
I will spare you my take on the rubbish literature of Radhanath “Swami” and whatever else he stands for.
I request you, however, to ask you this question:
What to think of a man who pays his fully prostrated obeisances to the corpse of the notorious Keith Ham aka as “Śrīla Bhaktipāda” – before having him buried in the sacred soil of the holy dhama of Vrindavan?
9.) I consider myself fortunate that I am not part of that institution any longer. I want nothing of it.
Do I have a tangible alternative to offer? No.
But that is not the point today.
10.) Those who still want and believe in a purified ISKCON must demolish the utterly corrupt leadership of the institution.
Not by violence. But by civil disobedience and boycott.
Atmavidya Das,
November 2018
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For more info please also see:
The Dumbed Down Disciple
Disciple of Kali
Denial – The Fake Guru Disciples Dilemma
DEMONS AND KARMIS IN DISGUISE
The great sinister movement is within our society
Sinister so called Devotees are Unauthorized and have No Spiritual Link
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Of course the Srimad Bhagavatam clearly states, that one should never criticise a Vaishnava or devotee of the Lord.
Actually there are two types of devotees: a real devotee and a Kali-chela devotee, who looks the same and has the same appearance. Unfortunately these ISKCON IDIOTS cannot discriminate between these two types of devotees, the real one and the fake one, but Bhaktivinoda Thakura clearly warns us, that Kali-Chela devotees have to be completely rejected.
Srila Prabhupada states that there are many false Vaisnavas in ISKCON:
“There are many jealous people in the dress of Vaisnavas in this Krsna consciousness movement, […] Such a pseudo Vaisnava associates with money and women and is jealous of successful Vaisnavas. Although passing for a Vaisnava, his only business is earning money in the dress of a Vaisnava. Bhaktivinoda Thakura therefore says that such a pseudo Vaisnava is not a Vaisnava at all but a disciple of Kali-yuga, and they should be completely neglected.” (Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Madhya-lila, 1:218 and 1:220, purports)
Prabhupāda: Devotees…. To become devotee is not so cheap thing. You don’t think that because you have got a tilaka you have become devotee. Why do you think like that?
Prabhupāda: That Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura, eiṭa eka kalira chelā, nāke tilaka, galaya mālā: “Here is another follower of Kali. He has got tilaka and mālā.” Sahaja bhajana kacen māmu, saṅga laiyā pārera wala: “He is worshiping, bhajana, taking another’s wife.” Sahaja bhajana kacen māmu, saṅga laiyā pārera wala, ei ṭa eka kalira chelā: “Here is a servant of Kali. Simply he has changed his dress with tilaka and mālā.” Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura says. If you take tilaka and mālā and do all nonsense things, then you are not a devotee. You are Kali-chelā. To become a devotee is not so easy thing.
Prabhupāda: To become devotee is not so cheap thing. You don’t think that because you have got a tilaka you have become devotee. Why do you think like that? (1976 Conversations and Morning Walks)
Srila Prabhupada: The fact is that I am the only one in India who is openly criticizing, not only demigod worship and impersonalism, but everything that falls short of complete surrender to Krsna. My Guru Maharaja never compromised in His preaching, nor will I, nor should any of my students. We are firmly convinced that Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and all others are His part and parcel servants. This we must declare boldly to the whole world. (Letter 72-01-03)
Srila Prabhupada in his lectures and morning walks talks about criticizing, which is essentially what he was doing non-stop on many of these morning walks — criticizing rascals and fools, and people who deny the existence of God or try to minimize God. Srila Prabhupada’s response to Hridayananda Goswami’s question is very important:
Hrdayananda: Sometimes, Prabhupada, when we expose them, their argument is, “Oh, you are a saintly person. Why are you criticizing me?”
Prabhupada: No, it is not criticizing. It is opening your eyes. You are blind, you are thinking yourself as very big, so we are opening eyes. You are not big. You are not even pig or fig. That is… ajnana-timirandhasya jnananjana-salakaya. You are blind with ignorance, so we are trying to open your eyes. See things as they are. It is favoring you. It is not criticizing you.
When you become actually preacher of God consciousness, you cannot make any compromise. You must call the spade a spade. Just like Prahlāda Mahārāja. Prahlāda Mahārāja is one of the mahājanas. Out of the twelve mahājanas, he’s one of them. Because he was very bold. He was not afraid of his demonic father. He chastised him in so many ways. But he was never afraid. (Lecture on SB 1.2.5 — Vrndavana, October 16, 1972)
Unnecessarily we do not want to criticize anyone. But when there is necessity, because we are preacher, it may be sometimes you’ll be faced with opposite elements, so we have to criticize in that respect. Generally we don’t praise or eulogize somebody or criticize somebody. That is not our business. Our business is Kṛṣṇa consciousness, God consciousness, always thinking that we are eternal servant of Kṛṣṇa. (General Lecture, 26 July 1968, Montreal)
“Our business is to point out who is not a saint.” (Srila Prabhupada Morning Walk, 10/4/1975)
“That is our duty, to disturb them. And that is the greatest service. Just like a man is sleeping. And somebody is coming to kill him, and other friend, “Mr. such and such, wake up! Wake up! Wake up!” So he may say, “Why you are disturbing me?” But that is the greatest service, he’ll be saved.” (Srila Prabhupada Lecture, 30/12/1968)
“If a man is a thief and if people are warned that he is a thief, that is truth. Although sometimes the truth is unpalatable, one should not refrain from speaking it. Truthfulness demands that the facts be presented as they are for the benefit of others. That is the definition of truth.” (Bhagavad-gita As It Is, 10.4-5, purport)
SOMETIMES THE TRUTH IS UNPALATABLE, ONE SHOULD NOT REFRAIN FROM SPEAKING IT
Satyam, truthfulness, means that facts should be presented as they are, for the benefit of others. Facts should not be misrepresented. According to social conventions, it is said that one can speak the truth only when it is palatable to others. But that is not truthfulness. The truth should be spoken in a straightforward way, so that others will understand actually what the facts are. If a man is a thief and if people are warned that he is a thief, that is truth. Although sometimes the truth is unpalatable, one should not refrain from speaking it. Truthfulness demands that the facts be presented as they are for the benefit of others. That is the definition of truth. [BG.10.4-5]
FAULTFINDING
Apaiśunam means that one should not find fault with others or correct them unnecessarily. Of course to call a thief a thief is not faultfinding, but to call an honest person a thief is very much offensive for one who is making advancement in spiritual life. Hré means that one should be very modest and must not perform some act which is abominable.[BG.16.1-3]
JUDGE / JUDGING
Prabhupāda: No, judgment is there everywhere. Unless there is judgment, how you can discriminate, “This is spiritual; this is material”? Judgment must be there for intelligent person. Otherwise how you can distinguish? We are distinguishing every moment–“This is good. This is bad”–in the relative world. So there is judgment. So God–the supreme judge. So as soon as there is question of judgment, then what is our position? There must be good and bad, so that if we have lived a very nice, good life, then by the judgment of God we get better position. And if we have not done so, then you get degraded position. Therefore, for human being it is very sanguine to understand how we are going to be judged by the Supreme. So if we are following the rules and regulation given by God, then the judgment will be better. And if we are not following the laws, the judgment will not be in favor. This is natural to conclude. Then we have to judge what is sin, what is piety, how to be pious, how one becomes sinful. So many things will come. [Room Conversation with Yoga Student March 14, 1975, Iran]
KILLING THE GURU WITHOUT PROTESTING
Srila Prabhupada: “Suppose if I am here and somebody kills me, and if you do not protest, is it a very good business? People will be surprised that “So many disciples are there, and this man is being killed, and nobody do anything?” (75 41027SB.MAY Lectures)
In the Purport of BG. 9.30, it is clearly explained of the fall down of the Devotee ACCIDENTALLY.
Only the FOOL avoids to criticize of A DEVOTEE in transcendental devotional service can act in all kinds of abominable ways ; that is the whimsically fall down under the pretence of quoting and misunderstanding the real meaning of the BG. 9.30 which itself condemns all kinds of such abominable ACTS of Devotees practising Krsna Consciousness as we read it ;
” …… On the other hand, one should not misunderstand that a devotee in transcendental devotional service can act in all kinds of abominable ways; this verse only refers to an accident due to the strong power of material connections….. ”
It can not be any clearer than that. But the problem is the followers of the present Fiskcon gurus are misled left, right and the centre. That is why Srila Prabhupada books have been changed by deleting and adding to best suit of such explanation of ACCIDENTAL fall down in a cleverly misleading ways.
That is why these people are UNWISE.
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
” According to their logic it would follow that great warriors who remained silent and did not stand up to protect the honour of Śrīmatī Draupadī were perfectly correct and displayed the topmost ethical standards in the assembly hall.”
Only a Mudha, FOOL accepts such logic because the Mudha has no understanding at all of the KNOWLEDGE of the subject to what is criticism, what is judgement – and what is discrimination. Ignorantly, they accept whatever it suits their best interest either logically or illogically it may appear because they lack and limit the understanding of the subject. That is why they are known as MUDHA.
By the way, it was not up to the Warriors or the Gurus who were present to stop the disrobe of Srimati Draupadi took place before the King’s Assembly under his presence. Indeed, the responsibility falls on the King who did not stop it. That is why the Warriors or the Gurus under the presence of the King did not protest of disrobing of Smt. Draupadi in his assembly. That is a very idiotic logic quoted above.
At the end, we know that the result was horrible. Isn’t it ?
In the same scenario, those who are Kings in the dress of a Gurus in the present Iskcon of HDG. Srila Prabhupada will be met with the similar chaos in their respective lives as of the King in the assembly without any doubt.
OM TAT SAT.
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Here! Hear! I had a tete a tete with Radnatha at NV a few years back (in July). I had barely said five words before Radhanath started in with the Vaishnava aparadha reminder/hint/accusation. He’s really good at it..
I did indeed apologize to the one Vaishnava bhakta who was present, sincerely concerned if I had offended him in any way, but he smiled as Radhanath flitted into the inner sanctum with his young attendant in tow and that was good enough for me.
Hare Krishna.
Hare Krsna,
I would like to recommend two excellent writings are based on Srila Prabhupada’s teaching about criticism:
Saving ISKCON:
https://www.iskconirm.com/docs/webpages/btp58-Saving-ISKCON.html
Fault Finding:
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=47583
Hare Krsna
Dear Marici Prabhu. Regarding the first link …..the idea that ISKCON can “reform” is a noble idea in itself but in my opinion this is highly unlikely (where is the evidence of this?). This does not mean of course that we should slow down our efforts to present Srila Prabhupada’s message to those sincere souls who seek to serve Srila Prabhupada. In my humble opinion these persons are very rare. If anything FISKCON is getting worse by the day, in spite of the efforts of devotees to expose them. Even concrete evidence that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned is ignored by most so this can only mean that for 95% of them, they are only interested in “the dog and pony show!” that’s all! and the vast majority are sentimentalists.
Reform of the individual is the goal as ‘collectively’ this is not achievable! This is ‘The Science of Self Realization’ not the science of “collective” realization! The world (especially Europe) is undergoing great upheaval as people are realizing that they are being herded like sheep by the Rothschilds controlled UN so circumstances could change dramatically but the vast majority of people in this world are brainwashed, sudras and completely ignorant so I do not see any good coming from this upheaval.
These FISKCON goons worship these Rothschild bankers, “Climate Change” hoaxers, “Interfaith UN Satanists”, corrupt politicians and even Ritvik sites are promoting Hitler (Prabhupada “Truth”)or NASA’s “Chicken Little” climate pseudo-science and media lies (PADA), and also GMO “Food” and Genocidal Vaccination programs so where is there any evidence of “Collective Realization?”
Hare Krsna Marici das prabhu,
I agree with Sudarsana… very simply, a ‘corrupt’ organization cannot be ‘reformed’ from within.
We have seen Srila Prabhupada disassociated himself from the GM after he saw it was impossible to get them to follow his Guru Maharaja’s order, see famous letter to Rupanuga das 1974.
Vaisnavism.. Real & Apparent:
“He is a Vaishnava who is never a victim to the tigress of wealth, beauty and fame. He is indeed apathetic and a pure devotee. The transitory world is to him as a snake is to its charmer. He is indeed apathetic who moderately partakes of things necessary for, and in favour of devotion – neither below nor above par – avoids all enjoyments and is ever free from diseases. He looks upon every thing as his Lord as well as Madhava’s, and not meant for his own enjoyment. This identity with, as well as attachment for, the things of Madhava – is real apathy. Fortunate indeed is he who is thus attached to Hari and who sees Hari’s Lila or splendour in the realm of matter. He is rich in hypocrisy who sings the Lord’s name to attain eminence. Forsakers of matter out of fear or desire and enjoyers thereof are both equally Non-vaishnavas. Shun the company of both. Thou canst neither own nor disown the things of Vishnu and thus run mad after enjoyment or renunciation.”
Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Prabhupada.
Yfs, Balaram das.
Hare Krsna, Sudarsana Prabhu,
Yes, the individual strength is most important.
But Srila Prabhupada is the Founder and the Acarya of ISKCON. And there is the name of the Founder-Acarya His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada on all registration documents, as well as all stationery, books, and publications.
And the original books ( Maha-bhagavata’s words) are the most important for the future..
Hare Krsna
Hare Krsna Balaram Prabhu and Sudarsana Prabhu,
Thank you very much. I understand you.
But Srila Prabhupada’s books (originals also) contain : His Divine Grace A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada Founder-Acarya of the International Soceity for Krishna Consciousness.
The International Soceity for Krishna Consciousness exists for people!
And we should distribute the originals books!
Hare Krsna
Yes! Absolutely.
Balaram das: I agree with Sudarsana… very simply, a ‘corrupt’ organization cannot be ‘reformed’ from within.
Mahesh: they have to AGREE to SURRENDER TO Srila Prabhupada as DIKSA Guru by ACCEPTING the “Ritvik System” as per HIS Order July 9th 1977 -and- the “Direction of Management” (1970) of HOW ISKCON was to be governed. Here is what Srila Prabhupada says:
WITHOUT AGREEING, CONCEDING, ONE CAN BE REFORMED. NO, THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE. IMPOSSIBLE.
751017mw.joh Conversations
Pusta Krsna: Is it possible to reform a person against their will?
Prabhupada: No, not possible. (break)
Pusta Krsna: …sign, Srila Prabhupada, that someone is actually having change in heart?
Prabhupada: Hm?
Pusta Krsna: WHAT IS THE SIGN THAT SOMEONE IS ACTUALLY HAVING CHANGE IN HEART?
PRABHUPADA: BY HIS ACTION. (BREAK) …KASIPU TRIED TO MAKE PRAHLADA ATHEIST. HE FAILED. AND PRAHLADA TRIED TO MAKE HIS FATHER THEIST. HE FAILED. DON’T YOU SEE?
Pusta Krsna: Yes.
Prabhupada: So unless one agrees you cannot turn him. It is not possible. Five-years’-old boy, staunch devotee, and the powerful Hiranyakasipu, father, who is threatening with his life and so many ways he tried that “You become atheist, godless. Otherwise I shall kill you.” He did not agree. And similarly, the son also solicited the father that “You have got so much power by the grace of God. Why you are becoming atheist?” BOTH OF THEM COULD NOT TURN TO THEIR SIDE. PRAHLADA REMAINED PRAHLADA, AND HIRANYAKASIPU REMAINED HIRANYAKASIPU. (BREAK) …CAN EXPECT THAT WITHOUT AGREEING, CONCEDING, ONE CAN BE REFORMED. NO, THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE. IMPOSSIBLE.
Pusta Krsna: Not simply by rubber stamp.
Prabhupada: No, that is not possible. He must agree, “Yes.” Therefore guru is required. Guru means, accept guru means, “Whatever you say, I will accept.” That is guru. Otherwise friendly talk. Friendly talk will not do. To accept guru means “Now I accept you, guru, my instructor, without any argument,” and that is acceptance. “Whatever you say, I shall do.” That is agreement. Then he can be reformed. Sisyas te ‘ha sadhi ma prapannam: “I surrender unto you. I become your disciple. Now you train me.” Then he can be reformed. Otherwise not possible. (break)
Devotee: When we were at school we accept a teacher and he teaches us mathematics or something like this, but when it comes to spiritual life and we accept a guru, people criticize by saying, “Oh, you’re not thinking for yourself anymore.”
Prabhupada: Yes, you have surrendered. You say, “Yes, we have surrendered. That is the way.” Tad viddhi pranipatena. The first term is “surrender,” pranipata. Otherwise it is not possible. IF ONE DOES NOT SURRENDER, THERE IS NO QUESTION OF REFORMATION. HE MUST VOLUNTARILY SURRENDER: “YES. WHATEVER YOU SAY, I SHALL DO.” THEN THINGS CAN BE ADVANCED. OTHERWISE NOT POSSIBLE. (end)
Hare Krsna Mahesh prabhu,
For the past 41 years they have had there own devious agenda, which is the antithesis of Srila Prabhupada’s clear instructions. They are in no way going to agree to SURRENDER their PADs, anymore than the mafia is going to agree to surrender to the law. It’s not really the ‘blind leading the blind’, more like the cheaters leading the blind!
Just see the outrageous statements & policies they come up with, that are blindly accepted as ‘gospel’ by the dumbed-down followers. Can you believe this gobbledygook resolution 308 below from 2018 gbc meetings.
“Whereas there is a critical need for many more devotees to serve as diksa-guru in ISKCON”…. because “…there are at least 9 million congregational members in ISKCON;” that potentially need to be initiated!
“308:
Dedication of Time to Guru-Related Research
Whereas GBC Resolution 310 of 2015 states:
Guru Related Research
[Statement]
Based on the sacred siddhanta of guru-tattva, and with a positive and enthusiastic spirit, the GBC
undertakes the responsibility to provide for present and future generations of devotees, a comprehensive and inclusive understanding that delineates how diksa and siksa gurus unitedly work within the framework of ISKCON.
In the meantime the existing resolutions and proposals concerning
(a) Vaisnavi diksa-gurus and
(b) disciples initiating in the physical presence of their initiating guru, are held in abeyance until these roles
are defined within the above-mentioned comprehensive research. The progress of that effort as regards
these resolutions will be reviewed annually until its conclusion, to which the GBC is steadfastly dedicated to accomplish.
Whereas the issues of implementation of Vaishnavi dikṣa-gurus and disciples initiating in the presence of their initiating guru in ISKCON remain unresolved;
Whereas there is a critical need for many more devotees to serve as diksa-guru in ISKCON;
Whereas there are at least 9 million congregational members in ISKCON;
Whereas ISKCON has less than 80 devotees available to give diksa to potentially 9 million people;
Whereasif every congregational member sought initiation each ISKCON guru would have to accept
approximately 112,500 disciples;
Whereas the moratorium on both Vaishnavi and second-generation devotees serving as diksa-guru
remains until the GBC concludes its research on guru-tattvain ISKCON;
Whereas the GBC Body previously committed to that research and to annually review, until its conclusion, a
comprehensive and inclusive understanding that delineates how diksa and siksa-gurus unitedly work within
the framework of ISKCON;
Whereas the GBC stated it “is steadfastly dedicated” to accomplish the above;
Resolved:
The GBC recommits to its statement of 310/2015, and begins by dedicating at least two days at either every
Annual General Meeting or Midterm General Meeting to this subject until the relevant aspects of this topic are
resolved satisfactorily.”
Yfs, Balaram das.
Balaram das Prabhu(Australia):For the past 41 years they have had there own devious agenda, which is the antithesis of Srila Prabhupada’s clear instructions. They are in no way going to agree to SURRENDER their PADs, anymore than the mafia is going to agree to surrender to the law. It’s not really the ‘blind leading the blind’, more like the cheaters leading the blind!
Mahesh: Hare Krsna! Prabhu, You are correct. These DEMONS will NOT surrender to Srila Prabhupada. I just wanted to point out the word REFORM. If one REFORMS then he HAS TO AGREE to SURRENDER TO Srila Prabhupada as DIKSA Guru by ACCEPTING the “Ritvik System” as per HIS Order July 9th 1977 -and- the “Direction of Management” (1970) of HOW ISKCON was to be governed. And – these DEMONS will NOT do it.
These Anti Ritvik demons actual REFORM will come when they are FORCED into the bodies of serpents,insects etc thru gradual evolution getting a human form – yet another chance- of life AFTER transmigrating 8.4 million species of life forms. Also – there are various creations taking place. So it can be MILLIONS and MILLIONS of years to come to HUMAN form AGAIN:
Prabhupāda: Just like the shark fish, they do not come into the river. That means those who are nitya-mukta, eternally liberated, they do not come into this material world. They do not come. There are two kinds of living entities, nitya-mukta, nitya baddha. Nitya-baddha, we are. Those who are in this material world, we are eternally conditioned. Eternally conditioned in this way, because I am changing my body, one after another. As I am desiring, I am getting my next body. This body I am creating, my next body, again when I shall get next body, I shall create another body. So this is going on. And because it is going on, when it has begun and when it is going to end, that you do not know. Therefore it is called nitya, eternal. Actually it is not eternal, but we do not know when I have begun my material existence. At least we can think that since this material, this term of material creation was there, I began my life. But no, that is not actual fact. The actual fact is, when there was no creation, I was submerged into the body of Nārāyaṇa, Mahā-Viṣṇu. And when there is again creation, I come out. So when I was submerged into the body of Mahā-Viṣṇu, before that my activities began in this material world. Bhūtvā bhūtvā pralīyate [Bg. 8.19].
So we are given chance when there is creation, another cosmic manifestation. We are given chance. Now, you take another chance. Come back home, back, go back to home, back to Godhead. But we misuse this chance. On account of our ignorance, we misuse this chance, especially this human form of body. Here is a chance. We can go back to home, back to Godhead.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/classes/nod/the_nectar_of_devotion/bombay/january/09/1973
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To revolve in the cycle of transmigration in a series of lives numbering 8,400,000 is an imprisoned life for the condemned conditioned souls. The human form of life is a chance to get out of this imprisoned life, and as such the only occupation of the human being is to reestablish his lost relationship with God.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/sb/1/5/15
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Intelligent persons who can see properly may look into the general conditions of the living entities who are wandering in the cycle of the 8,400,000 spieces of life, as well as in different classes of human beings. It is said that there is an everlasting belt of water called the River Vaitaraṇī at the entrance of the plutonic planet of Yamarāja, who punishes sinners in different manners. After being subjected to such sufferings, a sinner is awarded a particular species of life according to his deeds in the past. Such living entities as are punished by Yamarāja are seen in different varieties of conditioned life. Some of them are in heaven, and some of them are in hell. Some of them are brāhmaṇas, and some of them are misers. But no one is happy in this material world, and all of them are either class A, B or C prisoners suffering because of their own deeds. The Lord is impartial to all circumstances of the sufferings of the living entities, but to one who takes shelter at His lotus feet, the Lord gives proper protection, and He takes such a living entity back home, back to Himself.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/sb/2/2/7
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Note: here is the ACTUAL REFORM of these Anti Ritvik DEMONS:
THESE PSEUDO RELIGIONISTS ARE HEADING TOWARD THE MOST OBNOXIOUS PLACE IN THE UNIVERSE AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THEIR SPIRITUAL MASTER BUSINESS, WHICH THEY CONDUCT SIMPLY FOR SENSE GRATIFICATION
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=44093#more-44093
So anyway Mahesh Prabhu we can expose these nonsense rascals and have some cohesion and purpose in the service of Srila Prabhupada with more and more vaisnavas offering their wisdom and realizations, as we are experiencing at present. Who knows what can eventuate as the world situation changes. Lord Krishna can do ANYTHING and for Him anything is possible! Lord Krishna can vanquish these demons in a moment, actually they are already vanquished, they are already DEAD!
Always good to hear from all the Vaisnavas!
Sudarsana Das Vanacari: So anyway Mahesh Prabhu we can expose these nonsense rascals and have some cohesion and purpose in the service of Srila Prabhupada with more and more vaisnavas offering their wisdom and realizations, as we are experiencing at present. Who knows what can eventuate as the world situation changes.
Mahesh: the PRACTICAL way forward is GO ON EXPOSING the Anti Ritvik demons as per Srila Prabhupada’s ORDER -and- our SERVICE to him : leave the results to Lord Krsna:
Everyone has his proprietory right in regard to prescribed duties, but should act WITHOUT ATTACHMENT TO THE RESULT; such disinterested obligatory duties doubtlessly lead one to the path of liberation.
Arjuna was therefore advised by the Lord to FIGHT AS A MATTER OF DUTY WITHOUT ATTACHMENT TO THE RESULT. His nonparticipation in the battle is another side of attachment. Such attachment never leads one to the path of salvation. Any attachment, positive or negative, is cause for bondage. Inaction is sinful. Therefore, FIGHTING AS A MATTER OF DUTY was the ONLY auspicious path of salvation for Arjuna.
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Adi 1.35 The Spiritual Masters
The SERVICE of the spiritual master IS ESSENTIAL. IF THERE IS NO CHANCE TO SERVE THE SPIRITUAL MASTER DIRECTLY, A DEVOTEE SHOULD SERVE HIM BY REMEMBERING HIS INSTRUCTIONS. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SPIRITUAL MASTER’S INSTRUCTIONS AND THE SPIRITUAL MASTER HIMSELF. IN HIS ABSENCE, THEREFORE, HIS WORDS OF DIRECTION SHOULD BE THE PRIDE OF THE DISCIPLE.
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So this Krsna consciousness movement is a challenge to all the rascals and fools, that’s all. SO THOSE WHO HAVE TAKEN THIS MOVEMENT VERY SERIOUSLY, THEY SHOULD BE VERY SOBER AND UNDERSTAND AT LEAST YOU MUST EXPOSE ALL THESE RASCALS. THAT WILL BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED BY KRSNA.
Thank you very much. (end)
Note: SO WE HAVE TO EXPOSE THEM. THEY ARE NOT LEADER; THEY ARE JACKALS. SO JACKALS CANNOT ANYMORE RULE OVER. THAT SHOULD BE OUR PROPAGANDA
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Prabhupada: No, it is Sanskrit. And in Bengal it is called vane asiya raja.(?) “In the forest a jackal has become king.” They are like that. Nila-varna-srigalavat.(?) When… There is big story about this jackal. I will tell you some. A jackal came in the village and he fell in the tub where, what is called, the water? No, no. The water man keeps the water for dipping, making
little bluish. For coloring. That blue, blue. So the washerman kept the dye water in a big tub, and the jackal fell in it. So jackal fell in it; he became blue, all blue. So he fled away, and all the animals said, “What is this animal? What is the animal? What is that animal? Oh?” All, even lion became surprised. “We have not seen this.” “So who are you, sir?” “I AM SENT BY GOD TO RULE OVER YOU.” “OH?” SO THEY BEGAN TO WORSHIP HIM AS GOD, AS LEADER. Then one day other jackals, they were crying, “Wa, wa,” but the jackals cannot stop. If others jackals cry, the jackal cannot stop. So he also began to “Wa, wa.” Oh, then, they, oh, this rascal is a jackal. Yavat kincin na bhasate. That these rascals are jackals. Now they are talking nonsense. We can detect that “Here is a jackal.” SO WE HAVE TO EXPOSE THEM. THEY ARE NOT LEADER; THEY ARE JACKALS. SO JACKALS CANNOT ANYMORE RULE OVER. THAT SHOULD BE OUR PROPAGANDA. NOT ONLY SCIENTIFIC, ALL POLITICAL THINGS, SOCIAL THINGS, EVERYTHING. THEY SHOULD BE ALL KICKED OUT. THEY SHOULD BE REPLACED BY KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS. THEN PEOPLE WILL BE HAPPY. THIS SHOULD BE OUR PROGRAM. Our, this propaganda means to make people happy. It is not a business, to make business and take some money. And so many jackals have been arrested and resigned in your… You know that? Many jackals have been obliged to resign their post in the government.
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SO WHEN YOU BECOME ACTUALLY PREACHER OF GOD CONSCIOUSNESS, YOU CANNOT MAKE ANY COMPROMISE. YOU MUST CALL THE SPADE A SPADE. Just like Prahlada Maharaja. Prahlada Maharaja is one of the mahajanas. Out of the twelve mahajanas, he’s one of them. Because he was very bold. He was not afraid of his demonic father. He chastised him in so many ways. But he was never afraid. So just like our people are being persecuted in Australia. You know? They have been put into jail because they are preaching Hare Krsna. SO THIS IS NOT VERY EASY THING, EASY-GOING. MY GURU MAHARAJA, BHAKTISIDDHANTA SARASVATI GOSVAMI MAHARAJA, HE DID NOT LIKE THAT HIS DISCIPLES WOULD BE EASY-GOING, CHEAP VAISNAVA.
Note: ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES THE TRUTH IS UNPALATABLE, ONE SHOULD NOT REFRAIN FROM SPEAKING IT.
Bg 10.4-5 P The Opulence of the Absolute
Asammoha, freedom from doubt and delusion, can be achieved when one is not hesitant and when he understands the transcendental philosophy. Slowly but surely he becomes free from bewilderment. Nothing should be accepted blindly; everything should be accepted with care and with caution. Ksama, forgiveness, should be practiced, and one should excuse the minor offenses of others. Satyam, truthfulness, means that facts should be presented as they are for the benefit of others. FACTS SHOULD NOT BE MISREPRESENTED. ACCORDING TO SOCIAL CONVENTIONS, IT IS SAID THAT ONE CAN SPEAK THE TRUTH ONLY WHEN IT IS PALATABLE TO OTHERS. BUT THAT IS NOT TRUTHFULNESS. THE TRUTH SHOULD BE SPOKEN IN A STRAIGHT AND FORWARD WAY, SO THAT OTHERS WILL UNDERSTAND ACTUALLY WHAT THE FACTS ARE. IF A MAN IS A THIEF AND IF PEOPLE ARE WARNED THAT HE IS A THIEF, THAT IS TRUTH. ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES THE TRUTH IS UNPALATABLE, ONE SHOULD NOT REFRAIN FROM SPEAKING IT. TRUTHFULNESS DEMANDS THAT THE FACTS BE PRESENTED AS THEY ARE FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHERS. THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF TRUTH.
Note: BUT YOU HAVE TO FIGHT. THEN YOUR GURU MAHARAJA WILL BE GLORIFIED.
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Prabhupada: Yes. That you have to prove. You can eulogize your Guru Maharaja, but you have to learn it and face the public and be strong to defend yourself. That is success. Not by praising your Guru Maharaja. You’ll praise your Guru Maharaja. That is not very difficult. BUT BE VICTORIOUS TO THE OPPOSING ELEMENTS. THEN YOU WILL PRAISE YOUR GURU MAHARAJA NICELY. AT HOME, YOU CAN PRAISE YOUR GURU MAHARAJA, AND GURU MAHARAJA BE SATISFIED, “OH, MY DISCIPLES ARE PRAISING ME.” THAT IS NOT VERY…. THAT IS GOOD. RESPECTFUL. THAT IS THE QUALIFICATION. BUT YOU HAVE TO FIGHT. THEN YOUR GURU MAHARAJA WILL BE GLORIFIED.
Yes Mahesh Raja Prabhu, these instructions will keep us on track and realizations of other Vaisnavas also. This is eternal battle between the dharma and adharma, there is no “set and forget”, this is eternal battle as the material world is an eternal battleground.
They will not give an inch, so we should not give an inch either.
Their ability to fool and trick others gives them inspiration, but we can see through their disguise and this ”rattles them”, they can only function by being in denial but this all changes at the time of death.
Just like Hiranyakashipu he though he had the whole plan in the bag and schemed and plotted his eternal invincibility but Lord Krishna crushed him like a bug. They are much less fortunate than Hiranyakashipu however (who gained liberation as this was Lord Krishna’s Lila), as they are not very important and have to spend many lifetimes as “worms in stool”…….they are half way there already!.
Groundswell of organized opposition is required. Public shaming “abhisheka”, cameras present or they will lie and say you have threatened them. Numbers are also required for protection as they will use their dumb goons to intimidate. Picket Sunday “Feast!” people will stop coming to hear these Demons glorifying Srila Prabhupada’s poisoners….picket lines and banners, placards shaming these perverts….arrange for the press to come! If you want to get rid of them this is the way to do it! They are pathological liars and theives that couln’t care less about Srila Prabhupada, his books, Vaisnava philosophy and THEY ALSO DON”T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT YOU OR YOUR KIDS! This is what it will take to get rid of them! they are gutless cowards and bums! ..look at Radhanath …just a pathetic cowardly little dirty zionist rat parasite! That’s all!
Hare Krishna Prabhu,
Thanks for the excellent article.
Yes, to tolerate deviations from the instructions of the spiritual master is not appropriate. But we have to see how our spiritual master, Srila Prabhupada took action against his God Brothers for deviating from the teachings of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura.
Srila Prabhupada took to the instruction of his spiritual master as life and soul. He did not run after the Gaudiya Math by trying to show where did they go wrong. Well, he did remind them through his Vyasa Puja offerings, a few letters and personal conversations. As soon as he understood that this would not work anymore, he took single-handedly went to execute the instructions of his Spiritual Master.
Next, during the time he was setting up ISKCON, he did try to involve his GodBrothers to work cooperatively. However, this did not go well either. Srila Prabhupada did not set-up an aggressive campaign on Gaudiya Math to dethrone them from power for being malicious to his spiritual master. He did that by preaching the glories of Krishna. His implicit faith in the words of his spiritual master and Krishna’s protection was enough. He knew that as long as he sticks to this principle, everything will fall in place on its own. We know the history now. Gaudiya Math remains where it was, and Srila Prabhupada’s mission took over the world.
We have to take his instructions forward. I do not think any aggressive campaign in maligning the ISKCON gurus make us anything better than being vitriolic. Yes, we do not tolerate. So there has to be an action. Do we run after each one of them to slander them? Or we stick to the instructions of Srila Prabhupada to preach the glories of the Holy Name across the world. Just like he did?
I reckon by Srila Prabhupada’s instructions and his behaviour it is clear to me we have to focus on spreading the glories of the Holy Name in our short lifespan. We cannot do everything. Let us prioritise. Everything else will fall in place by sticking to the instructions of Srila Prabhupada and sraddha in Krishna. – Sraddha sabde kahe Visvas sudhrda niscaya,
Ys