Bogus IskCon successor gurus lined-up to receive worship!
Bogus self-appointed IskCon gurus lined-up to receive worship
By Damaghosa das
Above we have 2 pictures of the deity room with the “line up” of un-authorized gurus just in the Vancouver temple. I can count 12 of them by picture.
The broken signage outside on the ground outside the temple tells another story of the neglect of Srila Prabhupada because of disobeying his direct orders for the continuation of the Hare Krsna Movement.
It doesn’t take rocket science to understand these pictures and their effects. Before when he was with us, everything was going on nicely, after he left us, all the stone hearted “devotees” wanted to take his place and then all hell broke loose. Judge by the result. This short infomercial is meant to help those still not on board with what happened when Srila Prabhupada physically departed. Some people still think everything is A-OK yet, where are all the old Prabhupada disciples? Where have they gone? They all didn’t just fall down and away, they were driven away by the new stones that wanted to sit on the big Vyasasanas.
Kill guru become guru-this is what happened and if one does not understand the history, he or she will be misdirected the rest of this lifetime and more to come.
Any kid can tell you that if everybody just throws their own “rock” into a pond there will be NO harmony, only discord and disagreement. But if everyone can toss in their rock at the same spot, then only endless ripples of harmony will prevail. We should use the rocks to toss at them instead!
Srila Prabhupada March 13 1975….So do that. Don’t approach the cheater guru, bluffer guru, and be cheated. Stop this business. This has spoiled the whole spiritual atmosphere of the world. Take guru, the supreme guru, Kṛṣṇa. (And who can give us the ultimate guru Krsna? Only His bona fide authorized representative-Srila Prabhupada.)
Damaghosa das
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“WHY THIS GAUDIYA MATHA/ ISKCON FAILED?
BECAUSE THEY TRIED TO BECOME MORE THAN GURU.”
The following conversation of Srila Prabhupada’s clearly explains the reasons for ISKCON’s decline after Prabhupada’s departure. Though Srila Prabhupada was speaking about the failure of the Gaudiya Matha, amazingly it perfectly matches ISKCON’s own post-samadhi history, line for line. Seven sentences have been numbered for direct comparison to ISKCON.
“1) Why this Gaudiya Matha failed? Because they tried to become more than guru. 2) He, before passing away, he gave all direction and never said that ‘This man should be the next acharya.’ But these people, just after his passing away they began to fight, who shall be acharya. That is the failure. 3) They never thought, ‘Why Guru Maharaja gave us instruction so many things, why he did not say that this man should be acharya?’ 4) They wanted to create artificially somebody acharya and everything failed. 5) They did not consider even with common sense that if Guru Maharaja wanted to appoint somebody as acharya, why did he not say? He said so many things, and this point he missed? The real point? And they insist upon it. 6) They declared some unfit person to become acharya. Then another man came, then another, acharya, another acharya. 7) So better remain a foolish person perpetually to be directed by Guru Maharaja. That is perfection.” – Srila Prabhupada Room Conversation, 08-16-76, Bombay
Srila Prabhupada explains why ISKCON failed after he left:
1) “Why this Gaudiya Matha failed? Because they tried to become more than guru.”
ISKCON has also failed horribly in the 40 years since Srila Prabhupada’s departure. The reason is simple: the ISKCON leaders tried to be more than their guru by manufacturing so many speculative things (zonal acharyas, voted in acharyas, suspended acharyas, etc.).
Srila Prabhupada established a system in his temples whereby his unique position as founder-acharya (samsthapaka-acharya) was highlighted through his own worship in every single ISKCON temple. Some of the specific ways in which Srila Prabhupada did this was by having his vyasasana installed in all temples, installation of his deity while he was still living (in Vrindavan), having his photo on all ISKCON altars, having all disciples worship him every morning through “guru-puja”, etc. As soon as Prabhupada departed, ISKCON leaders suddenly tried to compete with him, installing their own Vyasasanas in all temples, keeping their own photos on the altar, instituting mandatory worship of themselves through “guru-puja” in all ISKCON temples, etc. Oddly, one will not find a single instruction by Srila Prabhupada to any of these ISKCON leaders, nor to ISKCON as a whole, to implement any of these changes to his institution. Srila Prabhupada specifically instructed how worship and sadhana in his movement should be carried out. Every detail of the morning program, evening program, japa, worship, etc., was given by Srila Prabhupada for all ISKCON devotees. Yet in an instant, the ISKCON leaders decided they were more than their guru, and made all sorts of unauthorized changes to his movement.
2) “He, before passing away, he gave all direction and never said that ‘This man should be the next acharya.’ But these people, just after his passing away they began to fight, who shall be acharya. That is the failure.”
Srila Prabhupada also gave all instructions before departing. Yet he never said “this person will be next acharya” or “these people will be the next diksha gurus”. Despite the fact that he never authorized anyone to be the next diksha guru, immediately after his departure his disciples fought over the position of acharya, throwing out anyone who did not accept their chosen 11 leaders as equal to Srila Prabhupada.
3) “They never thought, ‘Why Guru Maharaja gave us instruction so many things, why he did not say that this man should be acharya?’”
After Prabhupada’s departure, the ISKCON leaders never thought “Why Srila Prabhupada did not say that these men should be acharyas?” Prabhupada gave so many instructions, yet he specifically never authorized anyone to be the next acharya and diksha guru of ISKCON. Instead of understanding the reason Prabhupada never authorized or appointed anyone, the ISKCON leaders immediately fought over who would succeed Srila Prabhupada as acharya. It is a fact that Srila Prabhupada did not say that any of the 11 appointed zonal-acharyas should be acharya. It is also a fact that Srila Prabhupada did not say that any of the present 100 mini-acharyas should be mini-acharya. “So why did he not say that this man, [insert SWAMI X here], should be acharya?” That is Prabhupada’s own question. You can take it up with him.
4) “They wanted to create artificially somebody acharya and everything failed.”
The ISKCON leaders wanted to artificially appoint themselves as acharya, and as Tamal Krishna Maharaja explained above, it was due to their desire to control, due to their conditioned nature, and due to their desire to become gurus (only 11 people, worshipped as good as God Himself). Once the 11 zonal acharya’s were artificially created to replace Srila Prabhupada, everything in ISKCON failed. The history since that time has been one disgrace after another, so much so that devotees are embarassed to let other people know they are devotees. All of Prabhupada’s wealth and assets, meant for Krishna’s service, have been looted and stolen; many wonderful temples have been closed down and sold off; and worst of all, tens of thousands of devotees have been exploited and then left abandoned by fallen “gurus” and “acharyas”.
5) “They did not consider even with common sense that if Guru Maharaja wanted to appoint somebody as acharya, why did he not say? He said so many things, and this point he missed? The real point? And they insist upon it.”
To this very day the ISKCON leaders still do not consider this point with common sense. If Srila Prabhupada wanted to appoint some people as acharya, why didn’t he say so? Srila prabhupada taught so many things, yet they think he missed this simple point, forgetting to specify who will be acharya and diksha guru after him? Prabhupada’s use of the phrase “and they insist upon it” is amazingly relevant to ISKCON today. The ISKCON leaders repeatedly insist that Prabhupada failed to specify who would be the next diksha guru. They insist upon it so much, that if you do not accept their view on this matter, then you are banned and thrown out.
6) “They declared some unfit person to become acharya. Then another man came, then another, acharya, another acharya.”
This is the perfect summary of ISKCON’s history after Srila Prabhupada. First they fought and appointed unfit people as successor acharyas. As they began to fall, in order to make it less noticeable, they tried to dilute the guru list by adding even more unfit successor acharyas. As those false gurus also began to fall, they further tried to hide it by diluting the guru list even further. I have actually heard one of the original zonal acharya’s use the “fall percentage” as evidence that the current system is doing alright. He said, “If you take all the gurus in ISKCON and calculate how many have fallen, it isn’t a very high percentage.” But that is only because they have repeatedly added new dilutions to cover the original falls. If you take the original 11 self-appointed zonal acharyas, you have 72% of the gurus who have unconditionally fallen. And of the remaining three you have one person who died in a horrible car crash and one person who advocates acceptance of homosexual marriage.
As Srila Prabhupada stated in a letter to Rupanuga P. on 28th April 1974:
“In the latter days of my Guru Maharaja he was very disgusted. Actually, he left this world earlier, otherwise he would have continued to live for more years. Still he requested his disciples to form a strong Governing body for preaching the cult of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. He never recommended anyone to be acarya of the Gaudiya Math. But Sridhara Maharaja is responsible for disobeying this order of Guru Maharaja, and he and others who are already dead unnecessarily thought that there must be one acarya.
“If Guru Maharaja could have seen someone who was qualified at that time to be acarya, he would have mentioned, because on the night before he passed away he talked of so many things, but never mentioned an acarya. His idea was acarya was NOT to be nominated amongst the governing body. He said openly you make a GBC and conduct the mission. So his idea was amongst the members of GBC who would come out successful and self-effulgent acarya would be automatically selected. So Sridhara Maharaja and his two associate gentlemen unauthorizedly selected one acaryaand later it proved a failure. The result is now everyone is claiming to be acarya even though they may be kanistha adhikari with no ability to preach. In some of the camps, the acarya is being changed three times a year. THEREFORE, WE MAY NOT COMMIT THE SAME MISTAKE IN OUR ISKCON CAMP. Actually amongst my Godbrothers no one is qualified to become acarya. So it is better not to mix with my Godbrothers very intimately because instead of inspiring our students and disciples they may sometimes pollute them. This attempt was made previously by them, especially Madhava Maharaja and Tirtha Maharaja and Bon Maharaja but somehow or other I saved the situation. This is going on. We shall be very careful about them and not mix with them. This is my instruction to you all. They cannot help us in our movement, but they are very competent to harm our natural progress. So we must be very careful about them.”
another excellent article by Damaghosa Prabhu, thanks for posting.
The situation in the America temples is unbelievable, here in INDIA it is worse!
Jaya Potatoes Swami just had his 3 day Vyasa Puja glorification, these obsessive thug loves to be glorified and receives ton of money, hence why he does three days celebration.
He sits on a huge stage in front of 10, 000 surrounded by servants between Srila Prabhupada and Bhaktisiddanta Maharaja just to show the crowd that he is the next in line and deserves to be the biggest guru in FISKCON , yet the guy can’t even chant Hare Krsna anymore!
He loves the attention every year using Mayapur as his base and bank; check out these videos (caution have a vomit bag nearby)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P3nOAGfoFc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLY3_7UYKYc
Lord Shri Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead as Parmatma sitting next to the Individual soul through one of His energy aka. the Law of Karma infuses the thought as per the FREE WILL of the Individual to act and create the circumstances in such a way for the Jiva either to enjoy or suffer the consequences s/he is creating during the life time. The final result at the time of death will manifest as to how s/he leaves the body despite all the material comfort having to enjoy the Name, Fame and Status, and its Destiny will be determined then by the agency of the Lord for the next birth of the Jiva . That is the essence of the Revealed scripture.
OM TAT SAT.
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
THESE PSEUDO RELIGIONISTS ARE HEADING TOWARD THE MOST OBNOXIOUS PLACE IN THE UNIVERSE AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THEIR SPIRITUAL MASTER BUSINESS, WHICH THEY CONDUCT SIMPLY FOR SENSE GRATIFICATION
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=44093#more-44093
Mahesh Raja Prabhu;
talk about sense gratification that these FISKCON leaders conduct,
Check out great excitement in Sri Mayapur welcoming JPS co-conspirator Bhakti Charu helicopter arrival from Midnapur
(cost 2,000 euros):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDoENsdlaos
Or instead of the Helicopter ride to cut the 4 hour ride short,
check out the grand welcoming of Radhanath in Sri Dham Mayapur in his luxury vehicle;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loK1OjtI0pQ
NO one does a better arrival to Sri Dham Mayapur with the ultimate luxury vehicle than Jaya Potatoes,
FISKCON biggest thug!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS4zTqlh4SQ
Caution: have vomit bag ready before watching.
Rathayatra Prabhu, Hare Krsna!
These Anti Ritvik CROOKS followers are SO THICK they have no brains to understand they are ALSO going to hell:
SB 6.7.14 Indra Offends His Spiritual Master, Brhaspati.
A stone boat would be unable to float and would sink in the water with its passengers. SIMILARLY, THOSE WHO MISLEAD PEOPLE GO TO HELL, AND THEIR FOLLOWERS GO WITH THEM.
72-12-14. Letter: Tusta Krsna
As for your next question, can only a few pure devotees deliver others, anyone, if he is a pure devotee he can deliver others, he can become spiritual master. But unless he on that platform he should not attempt it. THEN BOTH OF THEM WILL TO GO TO HELL, LIKE BLIND MEN LEADING THE BLIND.
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Note: this life they can travel in Helicopter, luxury buses etc – BUT when Yamaraja gets hold of these plunderer poison giver Anti Ritvik bogus gurus and associates they will be devoured by dogs:
TEXT 27
TRANSLATION
In this world, some persons are professional plunderers who set fire to others’ houses or administer poison to them. Also, members of the royalty or government officials sometimes plunder mercantile men by forcing them to pay income tax and by other methods. After death such demons are put into the hell known as Sārameyādana. On that planet there are 720 dogs with teeth as strong as thunderbolts. Under the orders of the agents of Yamarāja, these dogs voraciously devour such sinful people.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/sb/5/26/27
Obeisances to all
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
It still amazes me that 19 years into the 21st century Srila Prabhupada’s disciples and followers still like to meditate on ISKCON’s bogus gurus and their system of deception. Focusing in on old ISKCON guru crimes is wasting valuable time. It is a serious distraction and deception in and of itself. ISKCON and their ilk rather enjoy the attention. Free advertising for their gurus with a picture of them included. How quaint. Do we not have anymore important concerns to deal with than to frame ourselves again and again as famous masters who constantly repeat that diatribe regarding how ISKCON failed Srila Prabhupada via their so called leaders? Ad hominem? And why show an offensive photo of Srila Prabhupada’s name in a damaged condition. Why not show him and his name in a more regal condition suitable for framing?
Are there any new comers recently, say over the last 5 years who can attest to the value of the intellectual veracity regarding our exposure of ISKCON’s gurus? Please come forward and speak. It has been our positive preaching for Srila Prabhupada that has served him not our constantly paying attention to ISKCON’s crimes and misdemeanors. What difference has our ongoing attacks on ISKCON made for our cities and towns and countries around the world? Look at Los Angeles, San Fransisco and Seattle to mention a few. The actual detailed solutions to the problems of the world are in Srila Prabhupada’s books. So let’s put away our ISKCON laser pointers, step off our famous personal pulpits and become famous the way Srila Prabhupada wanted us to be.
Experts on his books, utilizing their extreme vast resource of of knowledge and practical information, transforming that information into local and world wide activities designed to set real examples of leadership for all walks of life. Thereby freeing people up to have a chance to grasp their real intended destiny of love of God, their original rightful heritage. That same chance that we enjoyed. After all was it not the original intent and purpose of exposing the ISKCON gurus lies and crimes supposed to protect new comers so that they may acquire access to Srila Prabhupada’s original first printing books and all of his others works? As well as the chance to become his disciples? Srila Prabhupada’s Hare Krsna movement is for everyone not just “the devotees”. Otherwise it could be surmised by those who may happen to visit our sites that these sites are for club members only.
I humbly suggest on the front page right under the title : Welcome to prabhupādanugas.eu! that there be included an sub title invitation in the same space for everyone around the planet who visits the site on How To Become A Hare Krsna Devotee. Welcome to prabhupādanugas.eu! is meant for everyone around the planet right?
We noticed on the front page it says Welcome to prabhupādanugas.eu! Then this is posted.
Trying to advance in spiritual life outside the disciplic succession is simply ludicrous. It is said, therefore, ācāryavān puruṣo veda: one who follows the disciplic succession of ācāryas knows things as they are (Chāndogya Upaniṣad 6.14.2)
The verdict of all revealed scriptures is that by even a moment’s association with a pure devotee, one can attain all success. (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu instructs Sanatana Gosvami)
Prabhupadanugas.eu are followers and devotees of Śrīla Prabhupāda in Europe and around the world with the goal to bring back Śrīla Prabhupāda to the center of his movement as the Ācharya and initiating spiritual master of ISKCON. Śrīla Prabhupāda: “One should take initiation from a bona fide spiritual master coming in the disciplic succession, who is authorized by his predecessor spiritual master. This is called diksa-vidhana.” (SB 4.8.54) » more here «
Unfortunately clicking on “more here ” does not open up to the rest of the information. So what does the rest of the article say about diksa-vidhana”? Scholars, college students, business persons, teachers, musicians, artists, sculptors, wealthy philanthropists, Doctors or community leaders might want to know. Getting no further they are more than likely going to move on to another site in their life long search for more meaning. Say London ISKCON for example where it is posted “New Here?”
We have the proper connection in the disciplic succession but we are definitely not expertly utilizing our devotee association with the best communication tools the world has ever known. It is stated above that “we are trying to bring Srila Prabhupada back to the center of his movement” is a defeatist negative statement that advises readers that he is not yet at the center of his movement. Why not tell the readers that Srila Prabhupada has always been at the center of his movement and is still available as Acharya and initiating spiritual master of ISKCON?
Happy Varuthini Ekadash
Ys Hasti Gopala dasa
Hasti Gopala dasa: It still amazes me that 19 years into the 21st century Srila Prabhupada’s disciples and followers still like to meditate on ISKCON’s bogus gurus and their system of deception. Focusing in on old ISKCON guru crimes is wasting valuable time. It is a serious distraction and deception in and of itself.
Mahesh: You have missed the point, Hasti Gopala Prabhu. The Anti Ritvik crooks are used as STEPPING stone to REACH TO THE INNOCENTS AMONG THE CROWD so as their bogus philosophy is EXPOSED. There HAS TO be ALWAYS a RESPONSE and THERE ARE some INNOCENT in their crowd who are ALSO READING and this response is DIRECTED to those INNOCENT to bring THEM to Srila Prabhupada. NEVER under estimate the EXPOSE instructions that Srila Prabhupada has given:
“So you all write very strongly vehemently. Even it is a little offensive, still these rascals should be taught a lesson. Yes. They’re misleading. Godlessness.” (Conversations April 19, 1973)
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SO WHEN YOU BECOME ACTUALLY PREACHER OF GOD CONSCIOUSNESS, YOU CANNOT MAKE ANY COMPROMISE. YOU MUST CALL THE SPADE A SPADE. Just like Prahlada Maharaja. Prahlada Maharaja is one of the mahajanas. Out of the twelve mahajanas, he’s one of them. Because he was very bold. He was not afraid of his demonic father. He chastised him in so many ways. But he was never afraid. So just like our people are being persecuted in Australia. You know? They have been put into jail because they are preaching Hare Krsna. So this is not very easy thing, easy-going. My Guru Maharaja, Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Maharaja, he did not like that his disciples would be easy-going, cheap Vaisnava.
Note: ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES THE TRUTH IS UNPALATABLE, ONE SHOULD NOT REFRAIN FROM SPEAKING IT
Bg 10.4-5 P The Opulence of the Absolute
Asammoha, freedom from doubt and delusion, can be achieved when one is not hesitant and when he understands the transcendental philosophy. Slowly but surely he becomes free from bewilderment. Nothing should be accepted blindly; everything should be accepted with care and with caution. Ksama, forgiveness, should be practiced, and one should excuse the minor offenses of others. Satyam, truthfulness, means that facts should be presented as they are for the benefit of others. Facts should not be misrepresented. According to social conventions, it is said that one can speak the truth only when it is palatable to others. But that is not truthfulness. THE TRUTH SHOULD BE SPOKEN IN A STRAIGHT AND FORWARD WAY, SO THAT OTHERS WILL UNDERSTAND ACTUALLY WHAT THE FACTS ARE. IF A MAN IS A THIEF AND IF PEOPLE ARE WARNED THAT HE IS A THIEF, THAT IS TRUTH. ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES THE TRUTH IS UNPALATABLE, ONE SHOULD NOT REFRAIN FROM SPEAKING IT. Truthfulness demands that the facts be presented as they are for the benefit of others. That is the definition of truth.
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So our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is to become intelligent, not to remain mūḍhas, and to expose these rascal mūḍhas. That’s this, our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. So you must be prepared. While making propaganda, EXPOSE these mūḍhas. That is one of the service of Kṛṣṇa. Don’t remain foolish. Wherever there is required, fight with these mūḍhas and tell them rightly, straightforward, that “You are mūḍhas.”
Thank you very much. (end)
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/classes/cc/adi/1/9/mayapur/april/02/1975
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SO WE HAVE TO EXPOSE THEM. THEY ARE NOT LEADER; THEY ARE JACKALS. SO JACKALS CANNOT ANYMORE RULE OVER. THAT SHOULD BE OUR PROPAGANDA
730503mw.la Conversations
Prabhupada: No, it is Sanskrit. And in Bengal it is called vane asiya raja.(?) “In the forest a jackal has become king.” They are like that. Nila-varna-srigalavat.(?) When… There is big story about this jackal. I will tell you some. A jackal came in the village and he fell in the tub where, what is called, the water? No, no. The water man keeps the water for dipping, making
little bluish. For coloring. That blue, blue. So the washerman kept the dye water in a big tub, and the jackal fell in it. So jackal fell in it; he became blue, all blue. So he fled away, and all the animals said, “What is this animal? What is the animal? What is that animal? Oh?” All, even lion became surprised. “We have not seen this.” “So who are you, sir?” “I AM SENT BY GOD TO RULE OVER YOU.” “OH?” SO THEY BEGAN TO WORSHIP HIM AS GOD, AS LEADER. Then one day other jackals, they were crying, “Wa, wa,” but the jackals cannot stop. If others jackals cry, the jackal cannot stop. So he also began to “Wa, wa.” Oh, then, they, oh, this rascal is a jackal. Yavat kincin na bhasate. That these rascals are jackals. Now they are talking nonsense. We can detect that “Here is a jackal.” SO WE HAVE TO EXPOSE THEM. THEY ARE NOT LEADER; THEY ARE JACKALS. SO JACKALS CANNOT ANYMORE RULE OVER. THAT SHOULD BE OUR PROPAGANDA. NOT ONLY SCIENTIFIC, ALL POLITICAL THINGS, SOCIAL THINGS, EVERYTHING. THEY SHOULD BE ALL KICKED OUT. THEY SHOULD BE REPLACED BY KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS. THEN PEOPLE WILL BE HAPPY. THIS SHOULD BE OUR PROGRAM. Our, this propaganda means to make people happy. It is not a business, to make business and take some money. And so many jackals have been arrested and resigned in your… You know that? Many jackals have been obliged to resign their post in the government.
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So this Krsna consciousness movement is a challenge to all the rascals and fools, that’s all. SO THOSE WHO HAVE TAKEN THIS MOVEMENT VERY SERIOUSLY, THEY SHOULD BE VERY SOBER AND UNDERSTAND AT LEAST YOU MUST EXPOSE ALL THESE RASCALS. THAT WILL BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED BY KRSNA.
Thank you very much. (end)
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“So you all write very strongly vehemently. Even it is a little offensive, still these rascals should be taught a lesson. Yes. They’re misleading. Godlessness.” (Conversations April 19, 1973)
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721016SB.VRN Lectures
SO WHEN YOU BECOME ACTUALLY PREACHER OF GOD CONSCIOUSNESS, YOU CANNOT MAKE ANY COMPROMISE. YOU MUST CALL THE SPADE A SPADE. Just like Prahlada Maharaja. Prahlada Maharaja is one of the mahajanas. Out of the twelve mahajanas, he’s one of them. Because he was very bold. He was not afraid of his demonic father. He chastised him in so many ways. But he was never afraid. So just like our people are being persecuted in Australia. You know? They have been put into jail because they are preaching Hare Krsna. SO THIS IS NOT VERY EASY THING, EASY-GOING. MY GURU MAHARAJA, BHAKTISIDDHANTA SARASVATI GOSVAMI MAHARAJA, HE DID NOT LIKE THAT HIS DISCIPLES WOULD BE EASY-GOING, CHEAP VAISNAVA.
Note: BUT YOU HAVE TO FIGHT. THEN YOUR GURU MAHARAJA WILL BE GLORIFIED.
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Prabhupada: Yes. That you have to prove. You can eulogize your Guru Maharaja, but you have to learn it and face the public and be strong to defend yourself. That is success. Not by praising your Guru Maharaja. You’ll praise your Guru Maharaja. That is not very difficult. BUT BE VICTORIOUS TO THE OPPOSING ELEMENTS. THEN YOU WILL PRAISE YOUR GURU MAHARAJA NICELY. AT HOME, YOU CAN PRAISE YOUR GURU MAHARAJA, AND GURU MAHARAJA BE SATISFIED, “OH, MY DISCIPLES ARE PRAISING ME.” THAT IS NOT VERY…. THAT IS GOOD. RESPECTFUL. THAT IS THE QUALIFICATION. BUT YOU HAVE TO FIGHT. THEN YOUR GURU MAHARAJA WILL BE GLORIFIED.
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SB 4.14.41 T The Story of King Vena
brahmanah sama-drk santo
dinanam samupeksakah
sravate brahma tasyapi
bhinna-bhandat payo yatha
SYNONYMS
brahmanah–a brahmana; sama-drk–equipoised; santah–peaceful; dinanam–the poor; samupeksakah–grossly neglecting; sravate–diminishes; brahma–spiritual power; tasya–his; api–certainly; bhinna-bhandat–from a cracked pot; payah–water; yatha–just as.
TRANSLATION
The great sages began to think that although a brahmana is peaceful and impartial because he is equal to everyone, it is still not his duty to neglect poor humans. BY SUCH NEGLECT, A BRAHMANA’S SPIRITUAL POWER DIMINISHES, JUST AS WATER KEPT IN A CRACKED POT LEAKS OUT.
PURPORT
Brahmanas, the topmost section of human society, are mostly devotees. They are generally unaware of the happenings within the material world because they are always busy in their activities for spiritual advancement. Nonetheless, when there is a calamity in human society, they CANNOT remain impartial. If they do not do something to relieve the distressed condition of human society, it is said that due to such neglect their spiritual knowledge DIMINISHES. Almost all the sages go to the Himalayas for their personal benefit, but Prahlada Maharaja said that he did not want liberation alone. He decided to wait until he was able to deliver all the fallen souls of the world.
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“Guru-mukha-padma-vakya, cittete koriya aikya, ara na koriho mane asa. Don’t think of any nonsense. Simply execute what your guru has said. That is success.”
(28th January, 1977, Room Conversation)
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Yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādaḥ **. That is stated by Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura. If you please your spiritual master, then you know that “I have pleased Kṛṣṇa.” Yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādo yasyāprasādān na gatiḥ kuto ‘pi: ** “IF YOU DISPLEASE YOUR SPIRITUAL MASTER, THEN YOU ARE NOWHERE. YOUR POSITION IS LOST.”
Therefore, yesterday we were explaining the ten kinds of offenses. Out of ten kinds of offenses, the serious offense is guror avajñā, disobedience of the order of guru. This is the verdict of the śāstra.
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You are singing every day, guru-mukha-padma-vākya, cittete koriyā aikya, ār nā koriho mane āśā **. This is life. This is life. Guru-mukha-pad… You accept the bona fide guru, and what he orders you, carry out. Then your life is successful. Ār nā koriho mane āśā. You rascal, you do not desire anything else.
Note: Srila Prabhupada WANTS these bogus Anti Ritvik gurus and associates EXPOSED: guru-mukha-padma-vākya, cittete koriyā aikya, ār nā koriho mane āśā
“What difference has our ongoing attacks on ISKCON made for our cities and towns and countries around the world”
Dandavats Hasti Gopala dasa, All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
BIG DIFFERENCE has been made, WAKE UP!
Many of us attackers are printing original books, opening small farms and temples,
not only printing but distributing sets of original books in INDIA/USA/EUROPE/ASIA
us attackers even fighting the rascals in court when they try to stop us!
ITS A CON has been infected with Tamilism , some of these powerful rich leaders even have the nerve turning our spiritual masters institution into an ALL INDIAN society where foreigners are not welcomed NONSENSE!
Other powerful leaders and the thugs running GBC are continuing rubberstamping gurus and sanyansis, most w/ secret bank accounts , women secretaries and the best health care available while living in opulent properties with their brainwashed followers serving them.
My attacks against those with personal motive using ITS A CON to live like kings will go on until my last breath!
The most fallen
Rathayatra dasa
Disciple of Srila Prabhupada, who will fight for his guru who said he was poisoned and his books/mission changed.
Ashkenazi Jew’s only business is money (usury), and slavery. They are non-semetic, as Israelis only have on average under 3% of Hebrew DNA, whereas the Palestinians have over 80% but “Israelis” still claim “Israel” as their “homeland” this is because they are pathological liars, theives and deviants.
These Crypto-Jews’ “God” is Satan, this is why westerners don’t want to worship these Crypto-Jew filth. Crypto-Jews STILL own over 80% of the wealth in South Africa such as Rothschilds, (this is why they got rid of appartheit) because THE BLACKS ARE EASIER TO CONTROL!, whereas the poor (blacks and whites) are 3 times worse off than under the previous system.
Most westerners are not stupid enough to worship these Crypto-Jews (that is why we have left or been kicked out!) so these Zionist scum fill up their (Prabhupada’s) temples with dumb and stupid Indian “house niggers” who love to worship homosexual Crypto-Jews (Gandhi, Nehru, Ambedkhar, Modi etc) and puppets of Rothschilds.
The same scenario is playing out on the world-wide stage. These dumb pasandi, mayavadis would rather worship Crypto-Jews than bona-fide Acharya Srila Prabhupada, just as they have been worshiping Jew Rothschild’s and Crypto-Jew “British” (British is a Hebrew word) Crown (and now ”Commonwealth”) for hundreds of years (even Jehanghir, Akbar, Shah Jahan and Aurangzeb were Crypto-Jews and Jew Rothschilds’ agents! Aurangzeb’s (long range) cannons were all supplied by Jew Rothschilds as he butchered his way across India to bolster Rothschild’s (East India Company) Opium and Slave Trade.
Most persons in the Middle East know that ISIS (Israeli Secret Intelligence Service), Al Nusra, Al Queda and the “White Helmets” (Syria) are all controlled by the Zionist Jews and 90% of terrorism (and ‘false flags’) is carried out by Mossad/CIA/MI6. DEMONS ALWAYS COME IN DISGUISE! AS YOU WILL READ IN 10 CANTO SRIMAD BHAGAVATAM!
Dear Learned Readers,
My answers are appended in CAP. LETTERS below the comments of Shriman Hasti Gopala dasa Prabhu who writes ;
” …. We noticed on the front page it says Welcome to prabhupādanugas.eu! Then this is posted.
Prabhupadanugas.eu are followers and devotees of Śrīla Prabhupāda in Europe and around the world with the goal to bring back Śrīla Prabhupāda to the center of his movement as the Ācharya and initiating spiritual master of ISKCON. Śrīla Prabhupāda: “One should take initiation from a bona fide spiritual master coming in the disciplic succession, who is authorized by his predecessor spiritual master. This is called diksa-vidhana.” (SB 4.8.54) » more here «
Unfortunately clicking on “more here ” does not open up to the rest of the information. So what does the rest of the article say about diksa-vidhana”?
PRABHU ; THE REFERENCE SB. 4.8.54 IS THERE. HOWEVER THE REFERENCE SHOULD BE LINKED WITH THE SRIMAD BHAGAVATAM ” AS IT IS ” ON LINE. THE WEB MASTER CAN EASILY DO IT AND HE SHOULD DO IT FOR THE CONVENIENT OF NEW COMERS VISITING THIS SITE AS DESCRIBED BELOW IN HIS COMMENTS .
Scholars, college students, business persons, teachers, musicians, artists, sculptors, wealthy philanthropists, Doctors or community leaders might want to know. Getting no further they are more than likely going to move on to another site in their life long search for more meaning.
YES, I AGREE WITH THE ABOVE. IT IS A GOOD POINT BROUGHT OUT.
CERTAINLY, IT BECOMES IMPERATIVE FOR SOMEONE NEW COMER clicking on “more here ” does not open up to the rest of the information. So what does the rest of the article say about diksa-vidhana”?
Getting no further they are more than likely going to move on to another site in their life long search for more meaning.
YES , ABOVE IS INDEED A MATTER OF CONCERN.
A SMALL AMENDMENT IS REQUIRED WITHOUT ANY DOUBT.
Say London ISKCON for example where it is posted “New Here?”
” NEW HERE “. THAT IS TOTALLY A COMMERCIALIZING LINK WHICH MISLEADS PEOPLE ON ” LONDON ISKCON ” WEB SITE. BUT IT IS VERY CLEVERLY PUT THERE BY THE OWNER OF THE WEB SITE FOR CREATING A FURTHER CONFUSION IN THE INNOCENT PEOPLE WHO VISIT THE WEB SITE.
We have the proper connection in the disciplic succession but we are definitely not expertly utilizing our devotee association with the best communication tools the world has ever known.
PRABHU ; GIVING YOUR SUGGESTION WITH REGARD TO YOUR ABOVE CITED COMMENTS IS CERTAINLY MORE APPRECIATED IN MY POINT OF VIEW OF IT.
It is stated above that “we are trying to bring Srila Prabhupada back to the center of his movement” is a defeatist negative statement that advises readers that he is not yet at the center of his movement.
“we are trying to bring Srila Prabhupada back to the center of his movement” CERTAINLY INDICATES TOWARDS WHAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN BELOW WHICH READS ;
” … Srila Prabhupada has always been at the center of his movement and is still available as Acharya and initiating spiritual master of ISKCON.
THAT IS WHY THIS WEB SITE IS KNOWN AS PRABHUPADANUGA. THAT IS MY OPINION.
I DO SINCERELY HOPE THAT WEB MASTER MAY KINDLY IMPROVE THIS WEB SITE FRONT AS PER SUGGESTIONS.
OM TAT SAT.
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Hare Krishna Prabhus,
thank you very much for your suggestions!
Frontpage is improved now.
Dear Webmaster Prabhu,
It certainly appears clearly for all types of Visitors visiting this Prabhupadanugas site which shows that this site is indeed dedicated solely for our Jagat Guru His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada’s Mission as He desires from His Devotees / Followers to make every ones lives sublime in cultivating Krsna (God) Consciousness.
Thanks very much for this modification particularly noticeable comments brought out in his comments of Shriman Hasti Gopal Dasa Prabhu.
OM TAT SAT.
Hare Krishna. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
First class discussions with constructive critique everyone!
Now what I think we need to do as soon as possible is set up on line classes at this and all other web sites. There are several certified brahmana’s and pundits in our midst who can take on students for Srila Prabhupada. Once the word gets around that you can study the Vedas at this site with access to all of the books by His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada with first class fully qualified knowledgeable teachers more and more students will investigate. People are more than ready to learn than we think.
. Friday evenings and Saturday and Saturday evenings were a very busy time at New Remuna in Toronto back in the early to mid 1970’s. Hari Nam with the devotees on Yonge Street, back to the temple for 5:45 pm Tulasi worsjip, evening arotika 6pm to 6:30, Nrshmahadeva prayers, to 6:45 pm, 6:50 pm Bhagavad Gita class to about 7:20 pm then reading Krsna book by everyone including the guests untill about 7:50 pm, then the 8 PM arotika until 8:30 Pm. After which everyone gathered in the prasadam room for exotic evening prasadam and flower garlands for the guests. Many guests left with questions answered, small or large books and more enthusiastic to come back and do it all over again Saturday. Sunday temple clean up started at noon with everyone including guests engaged. By the 4 pm arotika everyone was primed for the Sunday feast festivities.
A new department for all web sites including Prabhupada News called Prabhupada House. Click enter and sign up for classes via newsletters and click on Sunday feast lectures, evening lectures, recorded home temple arotics, recorded testimonials, cooking classes, learn sanskrit, learn how to chant Hare Krsna mantra japa, where to get beads and bead nags and How To Become A Hare Krsna Devotee. I am looking forward to entering the new Prabhupada House for everyone at this and other web sites. Call it whatever you want but I am eager to hekp out as much as possible.
Ys Hasti Gopala dasa