IskCon FFL (Food for Life) promoting no cow milk on their site

HARE KRNSA — BELOW WE HAVE THE LATEST INSANE CONCOCTION TO COME OUT OF ISKCON- NO MORE MILK-THEY THINK IT IS BAD FOR YOU AND THE PLANET–JUST SEE -WHAT A GOAT WONT EAT AND WHAT A FOOL WONT SPEAK-BENGALI SAYING MY COMMENTS BELOW – Damaghosa das

Food for life (ffl) nonsense veganism policy:
https://ffl.org/food-yoga/our-policy-on-veganism/

Picture above: FFL (Food for Life) promoting no cow milk on their site.

ADULTERATING SRILA PRABHUPADA’S QUOTES THAT SAY PRASADAM AS “PLANT-BASED”:

Original Quote: Simply by liberal distribution of prasāda and saṅkīrtana, the whole world can become peaceful and prosperous. [Srimad Bhagavatam, 4.12.10 Purport]

ISKCON FFL’S MANUFACTURED QUOTE: (https://ffl.org/about-us/mission/prabhupada/)

“By the liberal distribution of prasadam (pure plant-based food) and sankirtan (congregational chanting of the holy name), the whole world can become peaceful and prosperous.” – Srila Prabhupada

Notice how they have added “purely plant-based food” to promote their veganism. They use Srila Prabhupada’s quotes to do all kinds of nonsense here. Where is it written that prasadam is only a plant based food without any milk offering?

Srila Prabhupada’s quotes on cow protection and importance of cow’s milk:

https://protectacow.typepad.com/goshalla/prabhupada_quotes_on_cow_protection/

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THE ABOVE ISKCON  LOGO OF NOT MILK IS BASED ON THE AMERICAN DAIRY INDUSTRY’S LOGO OF THE OPOSITE  SLOGAN WHICH SAYS—- GOT MILK ? SO WHY DO THESE THINGS CONTINUE TO HAPPEN IN ISKCON?

Any common man will tell  you they drink milk, if they can get it. All over the world, people by the billions will continue to drink milk as they all know it is the best food for them and it wont harm them.  They use milk products in so many things they eat. But now the wise fools in Iskcon have told us that their “Prasadam” will no longer contain milk products, but” plant based food.”

I almost feel like it is a total waste of time even writing about this because those that believe in veganism have lost all their  basic common sense. There has been supplied in this article (written by some else) massive quotes given to us by Srila Prabhupada regarding the importance of  milk and protecting the cow due to her importance.

So I guess you either believe in what Srila Prabhupada (and your own common sense) says, or you believe in the latest pie in the sky speculations coming out of iskcon these days. Therefore this article is for those who still want to follow in the footsteps of our Acarya-without changing his words or intentions.

Iskcon food for life says…   Here is the opening statement on their website.

Food for Life Global is committed to solving world hunger by addressing its root cause — inequality. Our strategy is to demonstrate love and respect for all living beings through the liberal distribution of non-violent, plant-based meals prepared with loving intention. It is love and respect in action.

We understand the clear connection of commercial dairy with the wholesale abuse of billions of innocent cows, bull and calves. We do not condone the use of any commercial dairy in any of our projects. All funds collected by donors are exclusively used for vegan ingredients. Donors can be assured that all donations are only used for vegan food distribution and operations.

So despite what Srila Prabhupada says, despite that iskcon in the early days used cow milk bought at the store that came from “un protected cows”, and that Srila Prabhupada himself authrorized this practice, todays Iskcon says this milk is unacceptable and wont be used in their “Prasadam” preparations.

So why this difference in opinions? Why was store bought milk once acceptable and now it is not? Good question, right?

The real reason for all our sufferings, including hunger, is lack of Krsna Consciousness, not some Iskcon contrived- “inequality”. When a rich mans son decides to leave the home of his  wealthy and well meaning father and go it alone out into the streets of the world then he  become a homeless beggar there, and then his life of suffering at once begins. All he has to do to stop this position of suffering/hunger is to recognize his father, as his well wishing father and return home, and by this action his hunger and poverty  problems are stopped.

We have out back  here on our farm, some very large fields of tall grass and weeds, simply because they have not been cut yet by the local farmer. If I walk out thru  there, you will be able to see not me, but only my path thru the tall grass and weeds. If you want to follow me, then you cant wait, but have to at once start out and follow the path I have chalked out.

If we dont continue to walk in the actual the footprints of Srila Prabhupada-then he will be lost to us. If we think we can take some shortcuts or we know a better path than he, he will also be lost to us.

This is what it means to follow in the footsteps of the great Acaryas without adulteration or speculation.

There is a nice verse in SB which states…

SB 4.22-When one deviates from his original consciousness, he loses the capacity to remember his previous position or recognize his present one. When remembrance is lost, all knowledge acquired is based on a false foundation. When this occurs, learned scholars consider that the soul is lost.

July 13 1971 LA

Dayānanda: “Neglecting the orders of the spiritual master.” At first we must accept a spiritual master and then we must become initiated by the spiritual master. So to neglect the orders of…

Prabhupāda: Unless one is prepared that “I am accepting somebody as my spiritual master. I must accept whatever he says,” if there is any doubt, that “I cannot accept his words verbatim,” then one should not accept him as spiritual master. That is hypocrisy.

So when devotees deviate in so many ways like those in Iskcon presently do,, then how will they ever be able to find the path back to Godhead chalked out by Srila Prabhupada? It becomes an impossible task. And then their spiritual lives are ruined.

March 7 1966 NYC class…

Now, how to understand that which is beyond our conception? The scriptures says like this, acintyaḥ khalu ye bhāvā na tāṁs tarkeṇa yojayet: “Anything which is beyond our conception, beyond our reasoning power, beyond our approach of the material senses, such things we should not try to have conception simply by arguments.” So in the Vedic injunction it is said that tarkaḥ apratiṣṭha: “By… What should be the… What should be our real understanding, that we cannot establish simply by argument.” Tarkaḥ apratiṣṭhaḥ smṛtayo vibhinnāḥ: [Cc. Madhya 17.186] “If we consult different scriptures, then we’ll find that one scripture is speaking something, another scripture is speaking something else.” Just like cow-killing. Take, take it for example. The Hindus, they say that cow-killing is irreligious. The Muhammadans say, “No, cow-killing is religious.” There is some adjustment, but… Now, in the scripture I see that the cow-killing, in some scriptures it is said that cow-killing is irreligious, and another scripture says that cow-killing is religious. So which of them I shall accept? This is ni… This is all right, or that is all right? So therefore it is said that smṛtayo vibhinnāḥ. If you consult different scriptures, you’ll find different contradictory statements. Your scripture may be different from my scripture. And nāsau munir yasya mataṁ na bhinnam. If you consult philosophers, you’ll find one philosopher is differing from another philosopher. A big philosopher means who has cut down other philosophers and put up his own theory, “This is true.” This is going on. So tarko ‘pratiṣṭhaḥ smṛtayo vibhinnā nāsau munir yasya mataṁ na bhinnam. Then how to conclude what is the right path? I cannot establish it by my imperfect arguments. I cannot consult even the scriptures. Neither I can take real instruction from different philosophers. Then what, what is the way of having the real thing? So it says that dharmasya tattvaṁ nihitaṁ guhāyām: “The truth of religiosity is very confidential, very secret.” So how to know it? Mahājano yena gataḥ sa panthāḥ: [Cc. Madhya 17.186] “We have simply to see that great personalities, as they have taken up, we have to follow. That’s all.”

Just like in your Christian religion you may not understand all the Biblical injunctions or you may not have the time, but you’ll simply, if you follow the ideal life of Lord Jesus Christ, then you get the same result. Similarly, the Muhammadans, if they follow the ideal life of Muhammad, Hazrat Muhammad, so they get the result. Mahājano yena gataḥ sa panthāḥ [Cc. Madhya 17.186]. Just like in a unknown path, in a village, especially when there is a field… Now, in, in the city, you can know that “I have come so far” because the streets are numbered and the, you have got the location and there are some symptoms, this house or that house. But in the country, everything, every, every place is of the same similar nature, the same jungle, the same field, the same grass. We do not know where I am going. Or in the sea. Or in the sea. I have got experience. Have you ever traveled in the sea? No. But when I was coming from India, so everywhere I see a round only, round of water. I do not know which way the ship is proceeding. You see? But they have got a chart. They have got a chart. By latitude, longitude, by time and by chart, they are calculating. Now, I was asking the Captain, “Where we have come?” He was saying, in the Mediterranean Sea, “Oh, we are so many miles from Italy. We are so many miles from…” Like this. “Tunisia. Now we are coming to Gibraltar.” Like this. But I was seeing all vast of water only. I was seeing, “Just after ten miles I shall reach,” but it never reaches. So then how, what are these charts? The charts are that experienced sailors, they have made the charts. The captain was also consulting that chart because it was made by experienced sailors. That is nothing. So similarly in calculating in which way we have to find out our salvation is to follow such liberated souls.

Some more valuable quotes on the position of market bought milk-when paid for it becomes purified–SP

Morning Walk at Stow Lake
March 23, 1968, San Francisco

Prabhupāda: Huh? Yes. Machine was not made for chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa, but we are utilizing it so that the machine-maker may be benefited. Because we employ everyone’s energy to Kṛṣṇa. So by his energy he has manufactured this machine, so we are employing in Kṛṣṇa’s service so that he may be benefited, purified. We are showing him the mercy. JUST LIKE ONE FLOWER PICKED UP FROM A PLANT OFFERED TO KRSNA IS OFFERING BENEFIT TO THAT PLANT. (PLEASE NOTE, THAT A FLOWER PLANT IS BENEFITTED BUT A COW IS NOT???) Because his energy is in the service of Kṛṣṇa. Similarly, the person who has manufactured this machine, when it is employed in Kṛṣṇa consciousness business, he’s benefited. Indirectly, we are giving him opportunity, although he does not know it. But his energy is being utilized for Kṛṣṇa. We offer prasādam, the same principle. A man does not know about Kṛṣṇa. But he wants to eat. By eating, he’ll be gradually Kṛṣṇa conscious. So you have… Our business is to give opportunity to all forgotten souls to be engaged in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, today or tomorrow. The boys and girls who have come to this society, they have accumulated in that way, knowingly or unknowingly, some Kṛṣṇa conscious qualification, and therefore they have taken this opportunity. (Pause) We have no dog friend. (Laughs)

Lectures : General Lectures : Lecture — Los Angeles, December 4, 1968 : 681204LE.LA :

You cannot reject milk from the human society. As soon as there is a child born, milk immediately required. Old man, milk is life. Diseased person, milk is life. Invalid, milk is life. So therefore Kṛṣṇa is teaching by His practical demonstration how He loves this innocent animal, cow. So human society should develop brahminical culture on the basis of protecting cows. The brāhmaṇa cannot take any other food except it is made of milk preparation. That develops the finer tissues of the brain. You can understand in subtle matters, in philosophy, in spiritual science. Just like in a scientific college, not ordinary man can understand the scientific intricacies. They require some preliminary qualification to enter into the scientific college. They require some preliminary qualification to enter into the law college, in the postgraduate classes. Similarly, to understand the subtle or finer implications of spiritual science, one has to become brāhmaṇa. Without becoming brāhmaṇa it is not possible.

patraṁ puṣpaṁ phalaṁ toyaṁ
yo me bhaktyā prayacchati
tad ahaṁ bhakty-upahṛtam
aśnāmi prayatātmanaḥ
[Bg. 9.26]

Kṛṣṇa said that “If somebody offers Me some foodstuff prepared from vegetables and fruits and grains”—grains are also fruits—”so with love and devotion, then I eat.” Therefore we offer these things to Kṛṣṇa. Just like here, we have offered fruits. Not that because we are vegetarian, but Kṛṣṇa wants this. Just like if you invite some of your friend, you ask him, “My dear friend, what do you like to eat?” So if he says, “I like this,” so you immediately supply. This is the sign of love. Similarly, because Kṛṣṇa says, “If somebody offers Me fruits, flowers, grains, milk, with devotion and love, I will eat,” so we are pledged to Kṛṣṇa, I offer these things to Kṛṣṇa, and we eat. That is our process. We have no quarrel with nonvegetarian or vegetarian. No. Because vegetable has also got life. And in the Bhagavad-gītā it is also stated that yajña-śiṣṭāśinaḥ santo mucyante sarva-kilbiṣaiḥ. You have to eat after offering sacrifice. Sacrifice means to worship the Supreme Lord. That is called sacrifice. So if anyone eats the remnants of sacrificial foodstuff, then he is freed from all kinds of sins.

Morning Walks – January 22-23, 1976, Māyāpura

Prabhupāda: Yes. Animal is animal. And we say protect cow from economic point of view, kṛṣi-go-rakṣya-vāṇijyam [Bg. 18.44]. Without saving cows you cannot get good food, not from the animal point of view. You require milk and milk preparation.

Prabhupāda: No, milk is required. Some fatty vitaminous food is required. That necessity is supplied by milk. Therefore specifically…

Guest: Couldn’t you get all the necessity you require from grains?

Prabhupāda: Grains, no. Grains, they are starch. According to medical science, we require four different groups: starch, carbohydrate, protein, and fat. That is full food. So you can get all these things by eating rice, dahl, mean pulses, and wheat, and…. These things contain…. Pulses and wheat contains protein. And milk also contains protein. So protein we require. Fat we get from milk. Fat is required. And vegetables, carbohydrate; and food grain, starch. So if you prepare nice foodstuff with all these ingredients, you get full…, and offer to Kṛṣṇa, then it’s purified. Then you are free from all sinful activities. Otherwise, even if you kill vegetable, you are sinful because it has got life. You have no right to kill another life. But you have to live on life. This is your position. Therefore the solution is that you take prasādam. If there is sin by eating vegetable or meat it goes to the eater. We take the remnants, that’s all.

Seattle – 6 October, 1968
My Dear Brahmananda,
Please accept my blessings. I am in due receipt of your letter dated Oct. 1, 1968, and some of the important points that you have tried to discuss, I am replying as follows: The first thing is that in the meeting of Dr. Spock, you should eat there. But you simply eat vegetarian dishes, like fruits, nuts, boiled potato, biscuit, milk, etc., and remembering Krishna. As you will pay for the dinner, for the fooding, you can offer them to Krishna within your mind, then eat them as Krishna Prasadam. Any foodstuff when it is paid for, it becomes purified. There is a verse in Vedic literature, Drabyamulyena Suddhati. The source of receipt of the thing, may be not very good, but if one pays for it, it becomes purified. So, vegetable diet when it is paid for, you can offer it in your mind to Krishna and take it. But this Drabya means eatables, and eatables meaning vegetables, grains, milk, flowers, fruits; meat is not considered an eatable — it is considered untouchable. Just like if somebody purchases some stool, that does not mean it is now purified. So meat is like that. This Drabya means vegetables, etc. And this Drabyamulyena Suddhati is only in special cases like this. It is not to done ordinarily, or unless in special circumstance. We should prepare our own foodstuff and offer as much as possible, of course. … >>> Ref. VedaBase => Letter to: Brahmananda — Seattle 6 October, 1968

Morning Walk with Dr. Patel, January 9, 1977, Bombay
HANSADUTTA: Prabhupada, you gave the example that what is the use of keeping a cow if you can get milk in the marketplace.
PRABHUPADA: Yes, cow-keeping is expensive.
DR. PATEL: Why keep a cow when milk is available.

Books : The Journey of Self – Discovery : JSD 7: Perspectives on Science and Philosophy : Psychoanalysis and the Soul :

There is a saying in Bengal: “When milk is available in the marketplace, what is the use of keeping a cow?”

VEDIC CIVILIZATION AND COW PROTECTION
Milk is compared to nectar, which one can drink to become immortal. Of course, simply drinking milk will not make one immortal, but it can increase the duration of one’s life. In modern civilization, men do not think milk to be important, and therefore they do not live very long. Although in this age men can live up to one hundred years, their duration of life is reduced because they do not drink large quantities of milk. (SB 8.6.12)

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Comment by Pariksit das:

Now I finally know why there are so many IskCon idiots running around nowadays, worshipping all kinds of molester Gurus, because they are brain-damaged, because they are not drinking milk. Since their duration of life is reduced, they soon will die.