Aug 12 1976 Tehran conversations about health products made by SP
Prabhupāda: I can give you formula. That toothpaste formula, that is my invention. It’s working very nicely.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Can we have it? What if we can’t find nim leaves here?
Prabhupāda: No, we can supply nim leaves from India, any amount, from Vṛndāvana.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Nim leaves from Vṛndāvana is unique, nobody can imitate us.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Nim leaves we can export from India. In the United Provinces there is ample nim trees. That time I shall give you instruction also.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: We will start, Śrīla Prabhupāda. This is better than…, this is easier than restaurant.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: So if you will give us the formulas, we can learn from him the formulas for toothpaste?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: For toothpaste and what else?
Prabhupāda: You remember it?
Harikeśa: Hm…
Ātreya Ṛṣi: No, exactly?
Prabhupāda: But toothpaste, you require collapsible tube.
Harikeśa: It was better in the bottles. In a tube it just doesn’t come out.
Prabhupāda: No, that will come out. The powder must be made very fine. Otherwise, it will not come out.
Hari-śauri: If it’s pulverized with a machine it comes out.
Harikeśa: Yes, if there’s a machine it would be nice.
Prabhupāda: Very fine powder.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: What about if we served it in a different shape. Tube is common. If we make it a little different it would be more attractive.
Prabhupāda: That you have to think, how it will be attractive here. Otherwise paste, put into the collapsible tube, then it becomes complete. The formula is there and everything. You don’t take… Simply it has to be made very fine pulverized.
Harikeśa: And it lasts for a long time, because the toothpaste Prabhupāda is using now I made in last December, last December.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Are you happy with it, Śrīla Prabhupāda? Is it good? He made it good?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. No, it was not made good because… It is not his fault, the powder was not very fine. But it will be better, nice, when the powders are very, very finely pulverized.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: What other products do you recommend?
Prabhupāda: That you want me I shall give you.
Hari-śauri: The one on leg that you put that nim oil. That cleared up that cut in two days.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Where is that nim ointment?
Harikeśa: He was in a car accident in Mauritius, and he had a big cut on his leg, and when Prabhupāda invented this medicine, cured it in two days.
Prabhupāda: Any cut, any ulcer, it is very…
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Even for ulcer?
Prabhupāda: No, any…
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Oh, cut, ulceration, cut. How much royalty do we pay you, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Fifty percent.
Hari-śauri: It’s gone a little moldy on the top again. Underneath it’s all right, though.
Prabhupāda: No, we shall do it nicely.
Harikeśa: This looks different.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: What is this, Śrīla Prabhupāda? Salt?
Prabhupāda: No, it is simply nim leaf.
Hari-śauri: Nim leaf boiled in ghee.
Harikeśa: This is not the same.
Prabhupāda: It was not properly done. I asked Pālikā.
Harikeśa: It was very good that other time. It was completely merged in the ghee and it was very nice. I cooked it for three hours.
Prabhupāda: The water portion should be abolished. Then it will go not bad.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: If the water portion is?
Hari-śauri: Abolished.
Harikeśa: The secret is cooking it for a long time.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Yes, yes, of course, it should be dry. Then it won’t go bad.
Prabhupāda: If the water portion remains, it will decompose.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Do you have to use ghee? Can’t we use some oil?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes, you can use vaseline. Ghee is better, but vaseline you can use. Vaseline is available, I think you are not manufacturing vaseline?
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Yes, Iran.
Prabhupāda: Because vaseline is one of the by-products of petrol.
Harikeśa: They have olive oil here.
Prabhupāda: No olive oil. Vaseline will be very cheap here. And you can, if you want to engage him, if he wants to do something, that Praṇava, let him supply nim leaves, dry, from Vṛndāvana. If he actually wants some money, let him do some business. Let him collect all nim leaves and give him twenty percent profit. Suppose he collects nim, collects and dry, and then packs it and dispatch. The cost of…
Ātreya Ṛṣi: The cost of dispatching, we give him twenty percent for him.
Prabhupāda: Some arrangement he may make some profit. Honest business. Not that by cheating get something. That is not good. If he wants money, let him take.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Have you had your massage, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: No, I’ll come back and do.
Prabhupāda: Many things toilet and medicines and… We can give.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: We will like that very much.
Prabhupāda: Let them be engaged in different ways and earn some money. This incense I taught Gargamuni first.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Yes, this is better than incense. You teach us the incense also, everything. We will do it.
Prabhupāda: Incense, I first of all taught Gargamuni, the starting was there in New York. Do you know that? And now it has developed very nice.
Pradyumna: The largest in the world.
Harikeśa: It took two weeks to make.
Prabhupāda: Two weeks? Why? Because the ingredients were not…?
Harikeśa: No, because your mustard oil, no one liked to taste it, and then you changed it to mustard seeds.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Mustard seed also can be exported from India. In the Mathurā district there is sufficient mustard seed.
Hari-śauri: Yellow mustard seeds.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Mustard seeds and instead of chalk powder we mix nim powder. Mustard seed, nim powder.
Harikeśa: Calcium carbonate.
Prabhupāda: And salt. Calcium carbonate means…? Oh, calcium, instead of calcium carbonate, let it be nim. It will be very effective.
Harikeśa: I think the taste will be horrible.
Prabhupāda: Yes, taste will be… (laughter)
Harikeśa: No one will use it.
Prabhupāda: Yes, that is…
Harikeśa: I saw they make this other toothpaste with sucrose. The second biggest ingredient is sucrose on the karmī toothpaste.
Prabhupāda: Sucrose? What is that sucrose?
Harikeśa: Sucrose, you know, sucrose and glucose and lactose, those sugars. They use sugar powder, sucrose.
Prabhupāda: Oh, sucrose, yes. Saccharin and sucrose. Saccharin is sugar product.
Harikeśa: We tried that too the first time, with those…
Prabhupāda: No, that is no good.
Harikeśa: That was not good.
Prabhupāda: Salt is available very easily.
Harikeśa: And they use hard soap powder in these powdered ones. We tried that first with the hard soap powder? They use that also.
Prabhupāda: No, it is it (indistinct), we shouldn’t do it. Only simple three things, that’s all. That is good. That has come out.
Harikeśa: Menthol, pine oil, camphor, oil of wintergreen, glycerin, mustard powder, powdered salt and calcium carbonate.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Good memory, yes, these are the things.
Hari-śauri: You put all that in the last batch?
Harikeśa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: In Durban, I think.
Hari-śauri: In Bombay we made the last one.
Harikeśa: No, that big batch last I made in Sanand. When you went to that Sanand above Ahmedabad, where that king had his palace, we stayed in that palace. That’s when I made that big batch. But first it was developed in Durban.
Prabhupāda: Durban, yes. Because there was no possibility of using (indistinct-word for stick toothbrush). My teeth broken, and it became painful, it was not working. Therefore I invented. But it is effective.
Harikeśa: You said on account of this toothpaste… Your teeth were so rotten they want to fall out, but the toothpaste won’t allow them.
Prabhupāda: Yes, actually my teeth have gone all bad. It is useless. But on account of this toothpaste it is still working. (laughs) Otherwise, according to dental science, it has to be extracted. It is no other remedy. If you go to a dentist, immediately he will say, “Extract all this and have a new set, artificial.” That is, I know that. But I don’t want to extract. As far as possible, use them and let them fall out automatically, as they have already fallen out so many. Fifty percent already fallen out, and twenty-five percent are shaking, and still I am eating. Otherwise, according to the dental science, I should not eat any salt. In Bengal there is a word that when teeth is rot, then your eating is gone. You cannot digest, you cannot eat. It is not… If the foodstuff is not properly chewed, it causes digestive disturbance. And digestive disturbance means so many diseases. This coughing is due to digestive disturbance. I know that.
Hari-śauri: That’s because liver’s not working?
Prabhupāda: No. Yes. It is old man’s disease. Liver doesn’t work nicely, teeth does not work nicely, there is susceptibility to cold. Old age. All my young friends, they have all died. Nobody’s living. One or two still. You know that Dinanath came? I think you know. He’s living. He’s seventy-five, seventy-six. Little younger than me.
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