So-Called Spiritual Societies Concocted In Modern Times…

…give sannyāsa even to women, although there is no sanction in the Vedic literature for a woman’s accepting sannyāsa.=S.P.

Kapila Muni gives instructions to His father Kardama Muni,

“I shall also describe this sublime knowledge, which is the door to spiritual life, to My mother, so that she also can attain perfection and self-realization, ending all reactions to fruitive activities. Thus she also will be freed from all material fear.”

Kardama Muni was anxious about his good wife, Devahūti, while leaving home, and so the worthy son promised that not only would Kardama Muni be freed from the material entanglement, but Devahūti would also be freed by receiving instruction from her son. A very good example is set here: the husband goes away, taking the sannyāsa order for self-realization, but his representative, the son, who is equally educated, remains at home to deliver the mother. A sannyāsī is not supposed to take his wife with him. At the vānaprastha stage of retired life, or the stage midway between householder life and renounced life, one may keep his wife as an assistant without sex relations, but in the sannyāsa order of life one cannot keep his wife with him. Otherwise, a person like Kardama Muni could have kept his wife with him, and there would have been no hindrance to his prosecution of self-realization.

Kardama Muni followed the Vedic injunction that no one in sannyāsa life can have any kind of relationship with women. But what is the position of a woman who is left by her husband? She is entrusted to the son, and the son promises that he will deliver his mother from entanglement. A woman is not supposed to take sannyāsa. So-called spiritual societies concocted in modern times give sannyāsa even to women, although there is no sanction in the Vedic literature for a woman’s accepting sannyāsa. Otherwise, if it were sanctioned, Kardama Muni could have taken his wife and given her sannyāsa. The woman must remain at home. She has only three stages of life: dependency on the father in childhood, dependency on the husband in youth and, in old age, dependency on the grown-up son, such as Kapila. In old age the progress of woman depends on the grown-up son. The ideal son, Kapila Muni, is assuring His father of the deliverance of His mother so that His father may go peacefully without anxiety for his good wife. (S.B.3.24.40)

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  1. Cāṇakya Pandit said “Never trust a woman or a diplomat”.

    Today’s political policies serve out a double whammy. Woman as diplomats, never before were there so many woman in positions of power in the governments around the world. Never before at least within the last one hundred years has politics been “ruled” by females as in the past 3 years. Never before has politics been conducted so crazy, irrational and plain insane.

    In the name of equality, they are promoting women to positions of power as they are grateful, obedient traitors. Women can’t compete on equal terms with men and require affirmative action. Affirmative action commonly referred to as “positive discrimination,” are a government policies created to assist minorities and underrepresented groups in securing work, receiving admission to colleges, and acquiring housing or to put woman into leading positions, otherwise on their own only few will be able to succeed in climbing the ladder.

    This has the fingerprints of something much more sinister. The degree and meticulousness with which all the current events have been apparently planned is simply mind-boggling. The woman politicians are going nuts and are the useful idiots in driving the world crazy. They don’t realise that they might wake up with their dog’s head in the bed as in the Godfather.

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise (Voltaire)

    • Sudarsana Das Vanacari says:

      In politics, the media, music and film, (or those who occupy influential positions in society) if it has a ‘DRESS’ on it is most likely a man such as Happy Jack Ardern, Julia Gillard, Angela Merkel, Ivana Trump, Tina Turner, ‘Oliver’ Newton John, ‘Big Mike’ Obama, Adele, Madonna, Katy Perry, Taylor Swift, Beth Hart, Dolly Parton, Christine McVie, Christina Aguilera, Beyonce, Paris Hilton, Joanna Lumley, Queen Elizabeth 11, Patsy Cline, Sharon Stone, Amanda Holden, Iman, Delta Goodrem, Crissy Hynde, Cilla Black, Orianthe, Cate Blanchet, Hayley Mills, Jennifer Aniston etc etc)

      If they wear a SUIT, or men’s clothes they are most likely women, such as Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin, Anthony Albanese, Scott Morrison, Tony (Miiranda) Blair, King Charlize 111, Lionel Messi, Shane Warne, Harrison Ford, George Bush, Piers Brosnan, Tiger Woods, Russell Bland, Gordon Ramsay, Gene Simmons, Jason Momoa, Ringo Star, John Lennon, ‘Faul’ McCartney, George Harrison, Eric Clapton, Frank Zappa, Elvis Costello, Jimmy Page, John McVie, John Mayall, Mark Rutte, Roy Orbison, Sting, Seal, Tom Petty, Robert Plant, Neil Young, Donovan, Bruce Springsteen, Bob Dylan, John Mills, Crispian Mills, Jacob Rothschilds, Boris, ‘Johnson’?, Jerry Seinfeld, Jeff Beck, Phil Collins etc etc,

  2. Hasti Gopala dasa says:

    Very interesting article. There should be spiritual societies but unfortunately, we no longer have any.
    We have store front web sites that use Srila Prabhupada paraphernalia to keep themselves afloat.
    Not that there is anything wrong with that. At least those “other” spiritual societies are up front and open for discussion and revelation. After all we would not know if they were there without their apparent honesty.

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      ORIGINAL ISKCON

      Hare Krsna Prabhu. Please accept my humble obeisances. ALL Glories to our Beloved Lord Srila Prabhupada!

      That is NOT “His ISKCON”. Contrary to what many of us still think, ISKCON is not a bunch of buildings. ISKCON ceased to be ISKCON when they poisoned Him, when they took His position, when they stole His buildings and properties, when they changed His Original Lotus Books, when they murdered and beat devotees, when they raped and molested children, when they… Anyway. It. Is. Not. ISKCON.

      ISKCON Is where one is sincerely and myopically serving, worshiping, and loving His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada. By serving Him, and Him only, do we receive (not get) Lord Sri Krsna.

      Those of us who think these buildings are ISKCON are stuck on Vapuh. And we have a long road ahead to realize it is His Vani – the Original Transcendental Lotus Books – which are ISKCON.

      That’s it.

      Lord Srila Prabhupada is ISKCON.

      He lives in His Original Books, His Murti, His Pranama Mantra. He is the only way to Krsna inside ISKCON. We don’t know Krsna. We left Him. Only Lord Srila Prabhupada can show us the way. Only Lord Srila Prabhupada can tell us about Krsna, Who He is, how He sits, how He eats, how He laughs, which street on Goloka Vrndavana He lives on, how He yawns, etc.

      ISKCON is where one STRICTLY follows Lord Srila Prabhupada. Where one LOVES Lord Srila Prabhupada. Where one worships Lord Srila Prabhupada. Where one does not make offenses to Lord Srila Prabhupada. Not trying to kill guru and become guru. Not being attached to Vapuh, and the weeds of bhakti (puja, prajalpa, pratishta, etc.).

      And NOT associating with those that do!! That is implicit support and we are culpable in their offenses.

      ISKCON is where Lord Srila Prabhupada’s true Disciples are worshiping and serving Him with love and devotion.

      Every disciple needs to get cases of His ORIGINAL Books, and go out on Sankirtana and Book Distribution.

      THAT IS ISKCON.

      Hare Krsna!

      ALL GLORIES TO LORD SRILA PRABHUPADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Ys,

      sgd

      Taken from http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2023/06/param-gati-original-iskcon-nanda-gopal.html

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      I think this devotees realisation sums it up spot on. Srila Prabhupada’s Iskcon is alive and well in the hearts of His followers. Who is a follower? One who follows His instructions of following the four regulative principles and chanting 16 rounds, reading His original Books and according to his means, situation and circumstances tries to distribute the books and some plates of prasadam to whoever one meets.

      Hasti Gopala Prabhu:

      We have store front web sites that use Srila Prabhupada paraphernalia to keep themselves afloat.. At least those “other” spiritual societies are up front and open for discussion and revelation….

      Mohini:

      1/ Srila Prabhupada’s original books are the real Iskcon. By creating, maintaining and updating a website daily for this intent is the voluntary 12 hour/day 24/7/365/11 devotional service for one/two people which we can avail of FREE OF CHARGE any time of the day. THANK YOU WEBMASTERS!!!

      and

      they are not spiritual societies, they are conditioned souls, cheaters, hotchpotch, hippie, BS nonsense societies which DISCUSSIONS AND REVELATIONS include drugs, sex, chicken soup and barbecue.

      2/ Maintaining a preaching centre is a 24 hour devotional service for a dedicated team around a fired up Sankirtan leader. Translating one of Srila Prabhupada’s books into another language is devotional service for 3 people and can take up to 2 years before it can go for printing.

      3/ Just because most devotees choose not to be present on the web that does not mean that there is no successful preaching going on. One has to be careful about one’s identity in regards to Iskcon and present day governments. In addition to running a preaching center you just don’t have the time to WAIST on the internet.

      But rest assured there is a lot of preaching going on, just not the way it was 50 plus years ago. It is growing now organically, naturally, healthy. It is grassroots growing, in every town and village, slowly, quietly, unnoticed, it takes time because it is not artificial, it is here to stay, it will not fade away because it has finally become a true spiritual way of life for many: parents, grandparents, children and grandchildren, young and old alike. The original books are the real Iskcon.

      That is what Srila Prabhupada wanted, for it to be assimilated into everyday life, a way of life, naturally. And yes, there comes the time for everybody where due to ripe old age one finally has the time to read Srila Prabhupada’s books thoroughly and reflect thoroughly without being pressured by material duties. Yes, fortunately there is a place for that too.

      Does that not show the potency of devotional service, the potency of Srila Prabhupada’s Iskcon, HIS BOOKS?

      Is it enough what we do? Of course not, it will never be enough, but unlike material activities which get boring and stale, spiritual devotional service of hearing and chanting will go on and increase more and more, we are the living examples for that. Some of us for 60 years already. This is the way to show the younger devotees that: YES it works, see we are hanging in there, happily reading Srila Prabhupada’s books, YES we are chanting the HareKṛṣṇa mana-mantra, YES we are offering our food to the Lord, YES we are trying our whole life to follow the instructions of Srila Prabhupada. And YES, we are happy at least more happy than anybody else out there, judging from their faces. YES IT WORKS!!!

      No need to be discouraged, like a smouldering fire, with every day chanting, reading, cooking prasadam for the Lord we are fanning the smouldering tinder, are slowly increasing the spiritual heat until it will one day become a flame.

      Srila Prabhupada started this process of smouldering the spiritual tinder of devotional service in the West and this has now, almost 60 years later, engulfed planet earth, in most towns and villages. All around the world Srila Prabhupada’s books are fanning the spiritual smouldering and the time will come when small flames all over the world will start a huge spiritual fire. When this happens the people of the world, old and young, will finally realise that looking at a picture of food will not fill their stomachs and looking at pictures of people will not satisfy their social longings. What are another 60 years waiting?

      At that time the devotees will be appreciated for their spiritual intelligence, chanting and cooking. At that time Srila Prabhupada will be accepted by all as the true ācārya, the spiritual master (jagad-guru) of the entire world.

  3. Pamho agtacbsp, first of all the sannyasa order of renounce must be within the self it does not matter if is a women , normally to give sannyasa to a woman formally is not allowed in vedic culture but anyone can be a sannyasi within the self that’s allowed a man must take sannyasa formally after 50 years age then to give sannyasa is forbidden in kali yuga age unless one get the qualities is not a brahmacari, grihasta, vanaprastha and sannyasi because one must get the qualification first then one can deserve in this super polluted society where everyone desire without deserve, nivritti marga is the best better pravitti marga which the result is preya while in nivritti marga the result is sreya forever bur the best sannyasi until now is HDG ACBSP .that’s the perfect sannyasi. Agtacbsp ys haribol

  4. Sudarsana Das Vanacari says:

    How many duped “disciples” realize that their “sannyas guru” is actually a biological FEMALE cross-dresser? How many persons realize that many “grihasta married authorities” (holding powerful positions within ISKCON) are actually ‘inverted couples?’ How many “disciples” can distinguish and properly recognize the genders of cross dressing, powerful individuals within the movement?

    How many DOZENS of individual are masquerading as the ‘opposite sex’ within ISKCON? Given the understanding that spiritual advancement crosses the bodily conceptions of gender and age, is it not still DECEPTION for cross-dressing individuals to falsely identify as the opposite gender to which they are biologically formed? Given that cross-dressing and inverted individuals are homosexuals, are “disciples” of these deceptive individuals not yet again being cheated, deceived, robbed and blindsided?

    How many duped “disciples” of “grihasta gurus” (who appear to be males!) are aware that these individuals are biological females (some within ‘inverted “married” relationships), pretenders, deceivers, and possess no degree of honesty, integrity, and potency whatsoever.

    Can the duped “disciple” of such deceptive, cross-dressing, imitator and actor “spiritual master” (who are themselves deluded, mentally disturbed, degenerate, sick and confused) be delivered from the cycle of birth and death? I think not!

    Given the fact that the whole world is being hijacked by these TRANS-HUMAN AND TRANS-GENDERED politicians, thespians, musicians, media personalities and that the New World Order plan is to enslave humanity with these dystopian, Pagan, Kabbalist, and Satanic concepts, is everybody really that covered-over that they cannot see what is the result of this INFILTRATION which is NO LONGER COVERT! BUT IT IS RIGHT IN YOUR FACE!

  5. Pamho agtacbsp, without krsna consciousness the future is very bad through the factor time in this dangerous calamities of kali yuga age, we can see through the factor time that many civilizations already disappeared because of lack of krsna consciousness even dwaraka disappeared when SRI KRSNA left the planet earth, a society without KC is already concocted therefore without service to SSGG become more concocted, for example we didn’t know what to do with our life before but now we got our eternal occupation in KC but in future will start the real reduction of population I mean many kali chela prefer to be dead to escape to all the nasty calamities stored for this most sinful age , we are lucky to chant the holy name daily therefore we don’t care whatever is going to happen because our next life will be better for us by the mercy of SSGG .agtacbsp ys haribol

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