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THE ISKCON GURU IMBROGLIO
RV to ISKCON
I feel sad and a bit disgruntled. I asked sincere questions on another Iskcon related group about the right method for initiation and got temporarily banned. Look, I am a beginner and genuinely motivated to become a long-term devotee. I follow the 4 regulative principles and manage to chant 16 rounds daily.
And I try to cook Prasadam the correct way but this isn’t perfect yet. Is it my fault that the movement got so confused after the master departed? There are dozens of websites who all propagate different interpretations of Srila Prabhupada’s teachings. They all criticize others that they are doing it wrong and then the same people get discredited by again other sources. They appear to compete over who is the most correct Vaishnav and then they all seem to fail themselves.
Is it a wonder then that new people feel disoriented and raise questions? I will have to ask until I know every different angle so that I can find my own place in all this ‘mess’ – because yes it is kind of a mess to be honest, at the moment, compared to other traditions, and I do not feel that people like me have to be punished for it, this is keeping people away from the path. However this doesn’t put me off regarding Srila Prabhupada. He seems like a bright clear light that has nothing of this mess in it.
I do not belong to any camp, I just want to know how to serve him and Lord Krishna the way he envisioned it. If formal initiation isn’t necessary, according to Srila Prabhupada, I will feel great relief because I do not want to be part of this conflict among his followers. I rather practice on my own than risk confining myself to a mistaken interpretation by choosing either ritvik or mainstream.
Also regarding guru’s, this isn’t my first tradition and I have seen enough of half-baked guru’s throughout my search and this has costed me a lot of sincerely invested energy. So if formal initiation isn’t required then this is a bonus for this reason as well.
The great thing for me about Srila Prabhupada is that he never seems to have made compromises and always lived what he preached. His message comes over clear and without contradiction. Even if I can not be sure about the absolute truth of it, the grace with which he lived his conviction is enough for me to trust him and follow him.
My heart can not accept a guru who isn’t living what he preaches.
Sorry if I caused commotion, my intention is sincere.
Hare Krishna
Conclusion: IskCon is allowing you to worship anyone, as long as its not Srila Prabhupada. That is the state of affairs in current ISK’CON. This is exactly true, if we glorify Srila Prabhupada too much in ISKCON, they stamp you as ritvik and simply ban you ……. we have all seen that happen.
Pamho agtacbsp, VARUTHINI EKADASI KI JAY , they are living in this imbroglio cheating since SRILA PRABHUPADA DISAPPEARANCE DAY and still don’t understand because of their sins in eating bhoga offered to the robbers of our guru maharaja, tell us with who you going and we can tell you what you are it’s a uncivilised society we can see that in the street there are bones of corpse everywhere and they pretend still to be respected when they are more insignificant then animals, anyway this f-iskcon imbroglio will be over soon with the nasty advancement of kali yuga.agtacbsp ys haribol
At 1.29 and few minutes after (Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarawati Thakur) this vid has some very interesting information concerning shastric quotes such as ‘Kali sending agents ‘DISGUISED’ as Vaisnavas!’.
So one immediately may reason from this that such a ‘DISGUISE’ refers to ‘clothing and/or some authority from Srila Prabhupada’ but not so as we learn from 10th Canto Srimad Bhagavatam “PHYSICAL (TRANSFORMATIONAL) DISGUISE IS ALSO MANIFEST, MOSTLY IN EXTREME FORMS!
Later in the vid shows many bogus, fake “gurus” most of whom I have extensively researched (minimum 80%) are androgyne FTM’s (female to male). Of this there is no doubt whatsoever! The statement also on the vid (around same time) which also states along the lines that “even experienced devotees have been fooled by this!” is highly relevant as this is also reflective in shastra.
Freemasonry is called “the craft” (Witchcraft). All the demons come disguised in (as 10th Canto Srimad Bhagavatam explains) and represent different anarthas and negative material traits.
Most of the 20 or so demons in 10th canto are referred to as ‘he’ (him) or ‘it’ and most are also Zoomorphic in form but with the exception of the ‘Fake Guru!” WHO IS PUTANA! …… So why is the ‘fake guru’ a female?
THE FAKE GURU IS A ‘FEMALE WITCH’ BECAUSE THEY ARE FREEMASON ANDROGYNES JUST LIKE CELEBITY ELITES, POLITICIANS, MEDIA SHILLS AND FILM AND MUSIC “STARS” WHO ALL PROMOTE GENDER INVERSION AND SATANISM AND ARE ALL BAPHOMET BENDERS!
The witch, demoness Putana is clever enough to bewilder Yasoda, Rohini and the other gopis, who are covered over by Yoga Maya, just as most of the vaisnavas are tricked through the agency of Maha Maya!
So there is the correlation and the lesson that must be learnt, by the arrangement of Lord Sri Krishna as the sastras are meant for our spiritual benefit to deliver us from illusion and the constant effort of the demons and witches to enchant us with spells, illusion and darkness!
I have a list of over 80 of these ISKCON androgynes and ‘gender-benders!’ but have only just scratched the surface!
GKG was probably poisoned! This ‘androgyne’ FTM cross-dressing demon with it’s ‘small hands’. tapered fingers and female digit ratio, was always worshiping the ‘goddess’ by performing the Hakini Mudra (see it honoring serial pedophile, FTM Keith Ham’s corpse, offering hakini mudra whilst prostrate on floor!) praying to the goddess that it reaches the ‘same’ destination!
Poison is their weapon of choice (sorcery = Pharmakeia) as they are liars and cowards! Gopi Bhava Club FTM ‘tranny’ Sivarama also ‘summoning the power of the goddess’ by performing this Hakini Mudra in it’s vid about “mothers!”.
‘Gender inverted’ FTM, Roger Terrence ‘Suhotra “Swami” Crowley (with very pronounced female digit ratio!) was descendant of ‘The Master Therion’ Aleister Crowley, one of the greatest demon Satanists of the 20th century and also ancestor of MTF Tranny Witch Barbara Bush had it’s life air stuffed out in the stool house, it’s soul being dragged down to hell, through it’s anus.
The GKG demon, was incredibly stupid and egotistical with massive throne (seat of Vyasa) TWICE AS BIG AS SRILA PRABHUPADA’S! so would be very easy to poison, as it is what these Kabbalist Satanic demons do best! …. HARVESTING SOULS FOR BHAPHOMET TO STEAL MONEY AND POWER!
POISON … ORGAN FAILURE …. AND ANOTHER ‘DEMONESS-WITCH’ BITES THE DUST … KACHING! KACHING! ALL OVER, VERY RAPIDLY! NO-ONE THE WISER! LET’S COUNT ALL THOSE SHEKELS!