The Fourth Morning Walk:
April, 29, 1973
Recorded on April, 29, 1973,
On the shores of the Pacific Ocean
Near Los Angeles
Śrīla Prabhupāda is accompanied by Dr. Singh, Brahmānanda Svāmī, Karandhara dāsa adhikārī and other students.
THE BILLION-DOLLAR DUST HEAP
Śrīla Prabhupāda. Now there is a scarcity of water in India, but what are the scientists doing about it? There is more than enough water in the world, so why don’t the scientists bring water where it is urgently required? They should employ irrigation immediately. But instead they are going to the moon, the dusty planet, to make it fertile. Why don’t they irrigate this planet? There’s plenty of seawater, so why don’t they irrigate the Sahara or the Arabian or Rajasthani Desert? “Yes,” they say, “in the future. We are trying.” In their pride, they immediately say, “Yes, yes. We are trying.” In Bhagavad-gītā it is said that when one is engaged in the business of satisfying unnecessary desires, he becomes bereft of all intelligence (kāmais tais tair hṛta-jñānāḥ [Bg. 7.20]).
This moon project is childish. Those who aspire to go to the moon are like crying children. A child cries, “Mother, give me the moon,” so the mother gives the child a mirror and says, “Here is the moon, my dear son.” And the child takes the mirror, sees the moon in it and says, “Oh, I have the moon.” Unfortunately, this is not just a story.
Karandhara. After spending all that money to go to the moon and bring back just a few rocks, the people on the space project decided that there was nothing more to do there.
Brahmānanda Swami. Now they want to go to another planet, but they are short of money. Going to other planets costs millions and billions of dollars.
Śrīla Prabhupāda. People work very hard while the rascal government takes taxes and spends money unnecessarily. There should be no sympathy when so much hard-earned money comes from the public and is spent so foolishly. Now the leaders are presenting another bluff “Don’t worry, we are going to another planet. Now we shall bring more dust. We shall bring tons of dust. Oh, yes, now we shall have tons of dust.”
Dr. Singh. They believe there may be life on Mars.
Śrīla Prabhupāda. They may believe or not believe. What is the difference? Life exists here, but people are fighting. So suppose there is life on Mars. There is life on Mars, undoubtedly. But what will we gain from this?
Dr. Singh. People are curious to know what is going on there.
Śrīla Prabhupāda. That means that for their childish curiosity they must spend vast sums of money. Just see the fun. And when they are asked to help one of the many poverty-stricken countries, they say, “No. No money.” Do you see?
LIFE COMES FROM LIFE
Pamho agtacbsp,they are changing already the money with a voucher instead of giving money the give another cheated piece of paper and in future get worse I mean the government will stop to pay their citizens it will be a battle for whoever don’t chant hare Krishna,this is the material world full of battles and the life without Krishna is the most abominable hellish life our only hope is to surrender to SSGG … agtacbsp Ys haribol
The scarcity because of ignorance will increase in the future therefore they stop to pay the citizens due to scarcity but for a real devotee there is not scarcity because we are most of the time associate with Sri hrsikesa which is beyond ignorance passion and goodness.agtacbsp ys haribol
ISKCON is of course now buying into all of these Freemason lies about the “Moon Missions” and “Space Station Missions” such as story in ISKCON News (June 2024) AS THEY DON’T WANT TO “OFFEND” THEIR MASTERS ‘THE FREEMASONS!” THEY WOULD RATHER OFFEND ACHARYA AND PARAMAHAMSA, SRILA PRABHUPADA AND RELEGATE HIM TO “CONSPIRACY THEORIST STATUS!”
The JUNE 2024 ‘ISKCON News’ story featured a tranny “astronaut” (astro-naught) MTF Sunita Williams (who has a jaw like Roger Ramjet!). Freemasonry is international AND ALL THESE NASA (NOT A SPACE AGENCY) gender inverts and liars* ( *symbolized in the NASA logo’s ‘forked tongue’) are Freemasons. One of their Lodges (in USA) is called ‘The Sea Of Tranquility Lodge!
It is easy to see that ISKCON is nothing more than another ‘franchise’ of the Freemason Illuminati, with it’s gender-inverted leaders and influencers associating with gender-inverted mass murderers such as Tony (Miranda) Blair and Bill Gates were guests at gender-inverted Asant Ambani wedding, what to speak of tranny iluuminati porn-star witches like Kim Kardashian.
Another notable gender-inverted sellout is of course FTM Amogha Lila (recently interviewed by FTM transgendered Chaitanya Charan in either Dandavats or ISKCON News!). FTM Amogha Lila had to “eat his own shit” when he “criticised” the Freemason heirarchy of FTM Vivekananda and FTM Ramakrishna (both Freemason Mayavadi pretenders) but that is what happens when you defy the whole Brahma Madhva Gaudiya Sampradaya and SELL YOUR SOUL TO FREEMASONRY AND ALL OF THE GENDER-INVERTED CONDEMNED WRETCHES AND REPROBATES!
Even the dumbest idiots in the world know that NASA is all about ‘mind control’ and fakery THEY ARE TELLING EVERYONE THIS WITH THEIR LOGO! …. HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT!
From the Eighth Canto, Tenth Chapter, of the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, entitled “The Battle Between the Demigods and the Demons.”
Śukadeva Gosvāmī said: O King
TEXT 38
teṣāṁ padāghāta-rathāṅga-cūrṇitād
āyodhanād ulbaṇa utthitas tadā
reṇur diśaḥ khaṁ dyumaṇiṁ ca chādayan
nyavartatāsṛk-srutibhiḥ pariplutāt
SYNONYMS
teṣām—of all the people engaged on the battlefield; padāghāta—because of beating on the ground by the legs of the demons and demigods; ratha-aṅga—and by the wheels of the chariots; cūrṇitāt—which was made into pieces of dust; āyodhanāt—from the battlefield; ulbaṇaḥ—very forceful; utthitaḥ—rising; tadā—at that time; reṇuḥ—the dust particles; diśaḥ—all directions; kham—outer space; dyumaṇim—up to the sun; ca—also; chādayan—covering all of space up to that; nyavartata—dropped floating in the air; asṛk—of blood; srutibhiḥ—by particles; pariplutāt—because of being widely sprinkled.
TRANSLATION
Because of the impact on the ground of the legs of the demons and demigods and the wheels of the chariots, particles of dust flew violently into the sky and made a dust cloud that covered all directions of outer space, as far as the sun. But when the particles of dust were followed by drops of blood being sprinkled all over space, the dust cloud could no longer float in the sky.
PURPORT
The cloud of dust covered the entire horizon, but when drops of blood sprayed up as far as the sun, the dust cloud could no longer float in the sky. A point to be observed here is that although the blood is stated to have reached the sun, it is not said to have reached the moon. Apparently, therefore, as stated elsewhere in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, the sun, not the moon, is the planet nearest the earth. We have already discussed this point in many places. The sun is first, then the moon, then Mars, Jupiter and so on. The sun is supposed to be 93,000,000 miles above the surface of the earth, and from the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam we understand that the moon is 1,600,000 miles above the sun. Therefore the distance between the earth and the moon would be about 95,000,000 miles. So if a space capsule were traveling at the speed of 18,000 miles per hour, how could it reach the moon in four days? At that speed, going to the moon would take at least seven months. That a space capsule on a moon excursion has reached the moon in four days is therefore impossible.
https://prabhupadabooks.com/sb/8/10/38
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From the Eighth Canto, Eleventh Chapter, of the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, entitled “King Indra Annihilates the Demons.”
The most powerful King Indra became angry, took his thunderbolt in hand to kill Mahārāja Bali and said:
TEXT 5
ārurukṣanti māyābhir
utsisṛpsanti ye divam
tān dasyūn vidhunomy ajñān
pūrvasmāc ca padād adhaḥ
SYNONYMS
ārurukṣanti—persons who desire to come to the upper planetary systems; māyābhiḥ—by so-called mystic power or material advancement of science; utsisṛpsanti—or want to be liberated by such false attempts; ye—such persons who; divam—the higher planetary system known as Svargaloka; tān—such rogues and ruffians; dasyūn—such thieves; vidhunomi—I force to go down; ajñān—rascals; pūrvasmāt—previous; ca—also; padāt—from the position; adhaḥ—downward.
TRANSLATION
Those fools and rascals who want to ascend to the upper planetary system by mystic power or mechanical means, or who endeavor to cross even the upper planets and achieve the spiritual world or liberation, I cause to be sent to the lowest region of the universe.
PURPORT
There are undoubtedly different planetary systems for different persons. As stated in Bhagavad-gītā (14.18), ūrdhvaṁ gacchanti sattva-sthāḥ: persons in the mode of goodness can go to the upper planets. Those in the modes of darkness and passion, however, are not allowed to enter the higher planets. The word divam refers to the higher planetary system known as Svargaloka. Indra, King of the higher planetary system, has the power to push down any conditioned soul attempting to go from the lower to the higher planets without proper qualifications. The modern attempt to go to the moon is also an attempt by inferior men to go to Svargaloka by artificial, mechanical means. This attempt cannot be successful. From this statement of Indra it appears that anyone attempting to go to the higher planetary systems by mechanical means, which are here called māyā, is condemned to go the hellish planets in the lower portion of the universe. To go to the higher planetary system, one needs sufficient good qualities. A sinful person situated in the mode of ignorance and addicted to drinking, meat-eating and illicit sex will never enter the higher planets by mechanical means.
https://prabhupadabooks.com/sb/8/11/5
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TEXT 25
alakṣayantas tam atīva vihvalā
vicukruśur deva-gaṇāḥ sahānugāḥ
anāyakāḥ śatru-balena nirjitā
vaṇik-pathā bhinna-navo yathārṇave
SYNONYMS
alakṣayantaḥ—being unable to see; tam—King Indra; atīva—fiercely; vihvalāḥ—bewildered; vicukruśuḥ—began to lament; deva-gaṇāḥ—all the demigods; saha-anugāḥ—with their followers; anāyakāḥ—without any captain or leader; śatru-balena—by the superior power of their enemies; nirjitāḥ—oppressed severely; vaṇik-pathāḥ—traders; bhinna-navaḥ—whose ship is wrecked; yathā arṇave—as in the middle of the ocean.
TRANSLATION
The demigods, being severely oppressed by their enemies and being unable to see Indra on the battlefield, were very anxious. Having no captain or leader, they began lamenting like traders in a wrecked vessel in the midst of the ocean.
PURPORT
From this statement it appears that in the upper planetary system there is shipping and that traders there engage in navigation as their occupational duty. Sometimes, as on this planet, these traders are shipwrecked in the middle of the ocean. It appears that even in the upper planetary system, such calamities occasionally take place. The upper planetary system in the creation of the Lord is certainly not vacant or devoid of living entities. From Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam we understand that every planet is full of living entities, just as earth is. There is no reason to accept that on other planetary systems there are no living beings.
https://prabhupadabooks.com/sb/8/11/25
vivarāḥ—different holes of the universe
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Meaning of the Sanskrit Word: vivarah
vivarāḥ—different holes of the universe SB 8.20.21
Compound Sanskrit Words Containing: vivarah
bhū-vivarāḥ—other planets SB 5.24.7
https://sanskritdictionary.org/vivarah
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From the Eighth Canto, Twentieth Chapter, of the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, entitled “Bali Mahārāja Surrenders the Universe.”
TEXT 21
tad vāmanaṁ rūpam avardhatādbhutaṁ
harer anantasya guṇa-trayātmakam
bhūḥ khaṁ diśo dyaur vivarāḥ payodhayas
tiryaṅ-nṛ-devā ṛṣayo yad-āsata
SYNONYMS
tat—that; vāmanam—incarnation of Lord Vāmana; rūpam—form; avardhata—began to increase more and more; adbhutam—certainly very wonderful; hareḥ—of the Supreme Personality of Godhead; anantasya—of the unlimited; guṇa-traya-ātmakam—whose body is expanded by the material energy, consisting of three modes (goodness, passion and ignorance); bhūḥ—the land; kham—the sky; diśaḥ—all directions; dyauḥ—the planetary systems; vivarāḥ—different holes of the universe; payodhayaḥ—great seas and oceans; tiryak—lower animals, birds and beasts; nṛ—human beings; devāḥ—demigods; ṛṣayaḥ—great saintly persons; yat—wherein; āsata—lived.
TRANSLATION
The unlimited Supreme Personality of Godhead, who had assumed the form of Vāmana, then began increasing in size, acting in terms of the material energy, until everything in the universe was within His body, including the earth, the planetary systems, the sky, the directions, the various holes in the universe, the seas, the oceans, the birds, beasts, human beings, the demigods and the great saintly persons.
PURPORT
Bali Mahārāja wanted to give charity to Vāmanadeva, but the Lord expanded His body in such a way that He showed Bali Mahārāja that everything in the universe is already in His body. Actually, no one can give anything to the Supreme Personality of Godhead, for He is full in everything. Sometimes we see a devotee offering Ganges water to the Ganges. After taking his bath in the Ganges, a devotee takes a palmful of water and offers it back to the Ganges. Actually, when one takes a palmful of water from the Ganges, the Ganges does not lose anything, and similarly if a devotee offers a palmful of water to the Ganges, the Ganges does not increase in any way. But by such an offering, the devotee becomes celebrated as a devotee of mother Ganges. Similarly, when we offer anything with devotion and faith, what we offer does not belong to us, nor does it enrich the opulence of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. But if one offers whatever he has in his possession, he becomes a recognized devotee. In this regard, the example is given that when one’s face is decorated with a garland and sandalwood pulp, the reflection of one’s face in a mirror automatically becomes beautiful. The original source of everything is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is our original source also. Therefore when the Supreme Personality of Godhead is decorated, the devotees and all living entities are decorated automatically.
https://prabhupadabooks.com/sb/8/20/21
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Note: We cannot help but be surprised how the smallest material detail is pointed out, mentioned, in this verse in unison by three Pure Devotees namely Śukadeva Gosvāmī, Bali Mahārāja and Śrīla Prabhupāda.
So-called scientists are obviously also taking interest in these perfect descriptions of the universe as given in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. They take the hints and screw, concoct their own discoveries, theories and presentations with imperfect senses, imperfect instruments and make incorrect assumptions, statements which no man can ever question since nobody can go into these holes, impossible, and look at one for himself, invisible.
It is not a question of the existence of “different holes of the universe”. It is a question of the credibility and conduct of the speakers: the Pure Devotees explanations versus conditioned souls “scientific” “assessments” “observations” “discoveries” whose lifestyles are conducted under the modes of ignorance and passion, who have no self-control and do not follow any regulative principles, in other words, they consciously live in total disobedience to the laws of Nature and foolishly deny God, the creator, any right of existence.
Meaning of the Sanskrit Word: pramattah
pramattaḥ—mad SB 5.5.4, SB 5.5.7
pramattaḥ—too attached SB 2.1.4
pramattaḥ—negligent SB 3.9.17
pramattaḥ—being madly attached SB 5.9.6
pramattaḥ—being mad in material conditions SB 7.6.14
pramattāḥ—neglectful in our duties SB 5.10.4
pramattāḥ—infuriated SB 5.24.29
https://sanskritdictionary.org/pramattah
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From the Eighth Canto, Twenty-third Chapter, of the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam,entitled “The Demigods Regain the Heavenly planets.”
Śukadeva Gosvāmī continued:
Text 29
One who is subject to death cannot measure the glories of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Trivikrama, Lord Viṣṇu, any more than he can count the number of atoms on the entire planet earth. No one, whether born already or destined to take birth, is able to do this. This has been sung by the great sage Vasiṣṭha.
PURPORT
Vasiṣṭha Muni has given a mantra about Lord Viṣṇu: na te viṣṇor jāyamāno na jāto mahimnaḥ pāram anantamāpa. No one can estimate the extent of the uncommonly glorious activities of Lord Viṣṇu. Unfortunately, there are so-called scientists who are subject to death at every moment but are trying to understand by speculation the wonderful creation of the cosmos. This is a foolish attempt. Long, long ago, Vasiṣṭha Muni said that no one in the past could measure the glories of the Lord and that no one can do so in the future. One must simply be satisfied with seeing the glorious activities of the Supreme Lord’s creation. The Lord therefore says in Bhagavad-gītā (10.42), viṣṭabhyāham idaṁ kṛtsnam ekāṁśena sthito jagat: “With a single fragment of Myself, I pervade and support this entire universe.” The material world consists of innumerable universes, each one full of innumerable planets, which are all considered to be products of the Supreme Personality of Godhead’s material energy.
Yet this is only one fourth of God’s creation. The other three fourths of creation constitute the spiritual world.
Among the innumerable planets in only one universe, the so-called scientists cannot understand even the moon and Mars, but they try to defy the creation of the Supreme Lord and His uncommon energy. Such men have been described as crazy. Nūnaṁ pramattaḥ kurutevikarma (Bhāg. 5.5.4). Such crazy men unnecessarily waste time, energy and money in attempting to defy the glorious activities of Urukrama, the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
https://prabhupadabooks.com/sb/8/23/29
Nūnaṁ pramattaḥ kurutevikarma (Bhāg. 5.5.4).
Such men have been described as crazy.
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From the Fifth Canto, Fifth Chapter of the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam entitled “Lord Ṛṣabhadeva’s Teachings to His Sons.”
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pramattaḥ—mad; kurute—performs; vikarma—sinful activities forbidden in the scriptures
Lord Ṛṣabhadeva told His sons:
TEXT 4
nūnaṁ pramattaḥ kurute vikarma
yad indriya-prītaya āpṛṇoti
na sādhu manye yata ātmano ’yam
asann api kleśada āsa dehaḥ
SYNONYMS
nūnam—indeed; pramattaḥ—mad; kurute—performs; vikarma—sinful activities forbidden in the scriptures; yat—when; indriya-prītaye—for sense gratification; āpṛṇoti—engages; na—not; sādhu—befitting; manye—I think; yataḥ—by which; ātmanaḥ—of the soul; ayam—this; asan—being temporary; api—although; kleśa-daḥ—giving misery; āsa—became possible; dehaḥ—the body.
TRANSLATION
When a person considers sense gratification the aim of life, he certainly becomes mad after materialistic living and engages in all kinds of sinful activity. He does not know that due to his past misdeeds he has already received a body which, although temporary, is the cause of his misery. Actually the living entity should not have taken on a material body, but he has been awarded the material body for sense gratification. Therefore I think it not befitting an intelligent man to involve himself again in the activities of sense gratification by which he perpetually gets material bodies one after another.
PURPORT
Begging, borrowing and stealing to live for sense gratification is condemned in this verse because such consciousness leads one to a dark, hellish condition. The four sinful activities are illicit sex, meat-eating, intoxication and gambling. These are the means by which one gets another material body that is full of miseries. In the Vedas it is said: asaṅgo hy ayaṁ puruṣaḥ. The living entity is not really connected with this material world, but due to his tendency to enjoy the material senses. he is put into the material condition. One should perfect his life by associating with devotees. He should not become further implicated in the material body.
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