The third offence is disregard of the Spiritual Master. The devotee must receive the transcendental Name of the Lord from the transcendental lips of a bonafide spiritual master who is cent percent devotee of the Lord and nothing more or nothing less and then begin chanting the transcendental Name of the Lord by constant repetition. Such spiritual master as above mentioned is known as the Guru from whom either initiation is taken or the one from whom spiritual instruction is received. One should have unflinching faith in such self realised transcendental spiritual master. The bonafides of such spiritual master can however be known, by their activities only which are always evident in respect of everything being done for and on behalf of the Lord. The self-realised spiritual master never deviates from the rulings of Shastras (Law Books) and he always does in practice what he speaks in theory. Those who however manufacture spiritual lessons from their own fertile brain, without having undergone any spiritual training from a bonafide spiritual master, cannot be counted as a spiritual master. Disrespect for such bonafide spiritual master and respect for the pseudo-spiritual master both are offences of the third order.
https://prabhupadabooks.com/btg/1/1f
Purport, Nectar of Instruction 5
One should NOT become a spiritual master UNLESS he has attained the platform of uttama-adhikari.
THE 3RD OFFENCE IN CHANTING IS TO DISOBEY THE SPIRITUAL MASTER so if one becomes a spiritual master without being on Uttama Adhikari platform he WILL be committing offense. And one who accepts such pseudo-spiritual master -also- WILL be committing offense in the chanting of the Holy Name.
NoD 8 Offenses to Be Avoided
The offenses against the chanting of the holy name are as follows: (3) TO DISOBEY THE ORDERS OF THE SPIRITUAL MASTER.
ONLY Mahabhagavata IS Diksa guru as described in CC Madhya 24.330
MAHĀ-BHĀGAVATA-śreṣṭho
brāhmaṇo vai gurur nṛṇām
sarveṣām eva lokānām
asau pūjyo yathā hariḥahā-kula-prasūto ‘pi
sarva-yajñeṣu DĪKṢITAḤ
sahasra-śākhādhyāyī ca
na guruḥ syād avaiṣṇavaḥ“The guru MUST be situated on the topmost platform of devotional service. There are three classes of devotees, and the guru MUST be accepted from the topmost class.”
The first-class devotee is the spiritual master for all kinds of people. ….When one has attained the topmost position of MAHA-BHAGAVATA, he is to be accepted as a guru and worshiped exactly like Hari, the Personality of Godhead. ONLY SUCH A PERSON IS ELIGIBLE TO OCCUPY THE POST OF A GURU.
NoI 5
Therefore a disciple should be careful to accept an uttama-adhikari as a spiritual master.
These bogus CONDITIONED SOUL gurus in ISKCON are giving ONLY ceremony 1st and 2nd Initiation – that is all. They can NOT give DIKSA – that requires MAHA BHAGAVATA (Srila Prabhupada). – FACT
761016iv.cha Conversation
Interviewer: What is the procedure of the movement? Do you initiate yourself all the disciples or do your other disciples also do that?
Prabhupada: Well, initiation or no initiation, first thing is knowledge. (break) …knowledge. Initiation is formality. Just like you go to a school for knowledge, and admission is formality. That is not very important thing.
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The EXACT qualifications required for occupying the position of Diksa Guru : MAHĀ-BHĀGAVATA-śreṣṭho
MAHĀ-BHĀGAVATA-śreṣṭho
brāhmaṇo vai gurur nṛṇām
sarveṣām eva lokānām
asau pūjyo yathā hariḥ
ahā-kula-prasūto ‘pi
sarva-yajñeṣu DĪKṢITAḤ
sahasra-śākhādhyāyī ca
na guruḥ syād avaiṣṇavaḥ
“The guru MUST be situated on the topmost platform of devotional service. There are three classes of devotees, and the guru MUST be accepted from the topmost class.”
The first-class devotee is the spiritual master for all kinds of people. ….When one has attained the topmost position of MAHA-BHAGAVATA, he is to be accepted as a guru and worshiped exactly like Hari, the Personality of Godhead. ONLY SUCH A PERSON IS ELIGIBLE TO OCCUPY THE POST OF A GURU.
Do you think that the words, ONLY SUCH A PERSON IS ELIGIBLE TO OCCUPY THE POST OF A GURU are offering compromise to choose less then a Maha-Bhagavata?
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Another meaning of guṇa is rope; it is to be understood that the conditioned soul is tightly tied by the ropes of illusion. A man bound by the hands and feet cannot free himself-he must be helped by a person who is unbound. Because the bound cannot help the bound, the rescuer MUST be liberated. Therefore, only Lord Kṛṣṇa, or His BONA FIDE representative the spiritual master, can release the CONDITIONED soul.
https://prabhupadabooks.com/bg/7/14
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The spiritual master who instructs the disciples about spiritual matters is called śikṣa-guru, and the spiritual master who initiates the disciple is called dīkṣā-guru. Both of them are My representatives. There may be many spiritual masters who instruct, but the INITIATOR spiritual master is ONE.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/kb/2/25
Note: these bogus Anti Ritvik pseudo-spiritual masters manufactured in ISKCON do NOT give their disciples the mantra: only by accepting Srila Prabhupada the BONA FIDE guru and his Ritvik System as per July 9th 1977 Ritvik Order one can have the mantra:
Devotee (3): In regard to worshiping arcā-vigraha form, you have explained that if one receives a mantra from a spiritual master who is not bona fide, that mantra has no effect. So I would like to ask if one is worshiping a Deity and his spiritual master is not bona fide, so that Deity cannot be considered the Supreme Lord?
Prabhupāda: Well, first of all, thing is if the spiritual master is not bona fide, how his mantra can be bona fide? Your statement is contradictory. IF YOU SAY THE SPIRITUAL MASTER IS NOT BONA FIDE, THEN HOW HIS MANTRA BECOMES BONA FIDE? IF HE IS BONA FIDE, THEN HIS MANTRA IS BONA FIDE.
Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/classes/sb/6/1/41-42/surat/december/23/1970
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Antya 3.59 T The Glories of Srila Haridasa Thakura
namera aksara-sabera ei ta’ svabhava
vyavahita haile na chade apana-prabhava
SYNONYMS
namera–of the holy name; aksara–letters; sabera–of all; ei–this; ta’–certainly; sva-bhava–the characteristic; vyavahita haile–even when improperly uttered; na–do not; chade–give up; apana-prabhava–their own spiritual influence.
TRANSLATION
“The letters of the holy name have so much spiritual potency that they act even when uttered improperly.
PURPORT
SRILA BHAKTISIDDHANTA SARASVATI THAKURA STATES THAT THE WORD VYAVAHITA (“IMPROPERLY UTTERED”) IS NOT USED HERE TO REFER TO THE MUNDANE VIBRATION OF THE LETTERS OF THE ALPHABET. SUCH NEGLIGENT UTTERANCE FOR THE SENSE GRATIFICATION OF MATERIALISTIC PERSONS IS NOT A VIBRATION OF TRANSCENDENTAL SOUND. Utterance of the holy name while one engages in sense gratification is an impediment on the path toward achieving ecstatic love for Krsna. On the other hand, if one who is eager for devotional service utters the holy name even partially or improperly, the holy name, who is identical with the Supreme Personality of Godhead, exhibits its spiritual potency because of that person’s offenseless utterance. Thus one is relieved from all unwanted practices, and one gradually awakens his dormant love for Krsna.
SB 2.9.8 P Answers by Citing the Lord’ s Version
THE POTENCY OF TRANSCENDENTAL SOUND IS NEVER MINIMIZED BECAUSE THE VIBRATOR IS APPARENTLY ABSENT. Therefore Srimad-Bhagavatam or Bhagavad-gita or any revealed scripture in the world is never to be accepted as an ordinary mundane sound without transcendental potency.
One has to receive the transcendental sound from the right source, accept it as a reality and prosecute the direction without hesitation. The secret of success is to receive the sound from the right source of a bona fide spiritual master. MUNDANE MANUFACTURED SOUND HAS NO POTENCY, AND AS SUCH, SEEMINGLY TRANSCENDENTAL SOUND RECEIVED FROM AN UNAUTHORIZED PERSON ALSO HAS NO POTENCY. One should be qualified enough to discern such transcendental potency, and either by discriminating or by fortunate chance if one is able to receive the transcendental sound from the bona fide spiritual master, his path of liberation is guaranteed. The disciple, however, must be ready to execute the order of the bona fide spiritual master as Lord Brahma executed the instruction of his spiritual master, the Lord Himself. Following the order of the bona fide spiritual master is the only duty of the disciple, and this completely faithful execution of the order of the bona fide spiritual master is the secret of success.
(by Mahesh Raja)
Pamho agtacbsp, ONE CAN LIVE IN THE MATERIAL WORLD ETERNALLY THROUGH HIS DISOBEDIENCE TO SSGG, IT STARTED WITH SRI KRSNA BETRAYAL AND CONTINUES THROUGH GURU AVAJNA,OF COURSE IS NOT EASY AT ALL TO SERVE KRSNA BY PAYING THE BAD KARMA IN THE MATERIAL WORLD BUT WE HAVE NOT CHOICE IT DOESN’T MATTER HOW ROTTEN ARE OUR GUNA AND KARMA BUT BY KEEPING SERVING SSGG SINCERELY WE CAN RESTORE OUR REAL PERSONALITY BECAUSE MANY KALI CHELA CITIZENS OF THIS UNWANTED MATERIAL WORLD BORN ROTTEN AND WILL DIE MORE ROTTEN THEREFORE WE MIND OUR BUSINESS WITH SRILA PRABHUPADA ONLY TO GET OUT FROM THIS BABILONYA IN THE MOST UNSAFE PLACE OF THE MATERIAL WORLD WHERE THE DONKEY MENTALITY IN THE HUMAN FORM OF LIFE TOOK OVER THE PROPERTY OF SSGG THEREFORE THEY NEED TO BE PUNISHED FOR SUCH UGRAM KARMA IN F-ISKCON. AGTACBSP YS HARIBOL