751018BG.JOH Lectures
Pusta Krsna: Everyone… Even if we don’t surrender to Krsna in this life, will everyone surrender to Krsna? Will everyone go back to Godhead eventually?
Prabhupada: Hm? So you have got doubt? Rest assured not everyone will do that. So you have no worries. It is not that everyone will do that. Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu says, ei rupe brahmanda bhramite kona bhagyavan jiva. Unless one is bhagyavan, very fortunate, he’ll not go back to home, back to Godhead. He will rot here. So this Krsna consciousness movement means we are trying to make people bhagyavan. If he wants, he can become bhagyavan. That is our attempt. We are creating so many centers. We are teaching how to become bhagyavan, fortunate, how to go back to home, how he can be happy. Now, if one is fortunate, they will take this instruction and turn his life. Therefore this is mission. But without becoming bhagyavan, nobody can go. Fortunate. So we are giving them chance to become fortunate.
This is our mission. The most unfortunate is getting the chance of becoming fortunate. Any one of us can consider this, how from unfortunate life they are coming to fortunate. This is Krsna consciousness movement, that we are giving chance to the unfortunate. Everyone is unfortunate, everyone is a rascal. We are giving chance how to become intelligent and fortunate. This is Krsna consciousness. If the people are not so unfortunate and rascal, then what is the meaning of preaching? Preaching means that you have to turn the rascals and unfortunate to become intelligent and fortunate. That is preaching. But unless you are fortunate and intelligent, you cannot take to Krsna consciousness. That is a fact.
Pusta Krsna: Can intelligence be created in an unintelligent person?
Prabhupada: Everyone is intelligent. That I have already explained. Everyone has got brain and intelligence, but he has to use it properly. That is wanted. That is education. You cannot teach a stone how to manufacture this microphone. That is not possible because he has no intelligence. But even one is dull brained, you can teach him by education how to manufacture this microphone. So intelligence is there, every living entity. Now, to train them how to utilize his intelligence… So one who is fortunate, he becomes trained up in intelligence how to go home, back to home, back to Godhead. And one who is not fortunate, his intelligence is used how to go to hell. That’s all. That is duskrtina. To become a member of the hellish condition of life, that also requires intelligence. How to become first-class thief, how to become first-class cheater, first-class drunkard, first-class smuggler–does it not require intelligence? It requires intelligence. But their intelligence is being used for going to hell. Another intelligence is being used to going back to home, back to Godhead. Intelligence is there in both the cases. Now, it is the technique, how to use it. That’s all. That requires.
So duskrtina: “Those who are simply engaged in sinful activities and utilizing intelligence in that way,” na mam prapadyante, “they cannot surrender to Me.” So the intelligence is there. Everything is there. Senses are there. They have to be purified. Tat-paratvena nirmalam. The Krsna consciousness movement is to purify intelligence, not that intelligence is external, pushed in, within him, no, intelligence there, but at the present moment he is polluted. His intelligence is covered with so many dirty things. That has to be cleansed. Ceto-darpana-marjanam. That is Krsna consciousness movement. His intelligence has to be cleansed. Other… Intelligence is there. Without intelligence, how one can be living being? Then he is stone. The Buddha philosophy, they mean to say that “Kill your intelligence. Then no more suffering from pain or pleasure. Just like stone. It has no feeling or suffering or pleasure.” So that is not possible for the living entity to become as dull as the stone. That is not possible. (end)
750407mw.may Conversations
Brahmananda: How do we give knowledge to the common masses of people?
Prabhupada: Yes, by sankirtana. By hearing, hearing, hearing–this is a medicinal process–the heart will be cleansed and they will take up the knowledge. Now the heart is unclean, so he cannot take up. So this is the medicine. Kalau nasty eva nasty eva nasty eva gatir anyatha. Harer nama harer… Chant Hare Krsna mantra wherever possible, and whoever will hear, he will gradually become cleansed. Ceto-darpana-marjanam. And then bhava-maha-davagni… Then his material pangs will be over. This is the only medicine. Therefore chant Hare Krsna. Some way or other, let them have the chance of hearing, and then it will act as medicine. Even he does not will, you chant, you let him hear by force, and he will be cured.
Satsvarupa: Srila Prabhupada, sometimes you say only a very small percentage can take to Krsna consciousness.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Satsvarupa: But yesterday morning in your lecture you were saying it can expand to ten thousand, million, or ten million.
Prabhupada: Yes, if you take the proper way it can be increased.
Satsvarupa: Is that just up to our preaching?
Prabhupada: Yes. That will depend on your purified preaching activities. If you again become materially victimized, then you cannot do it. If you remain on the spiritual platform, if you try, then it will increase. Anandambudhi-vardhanam. It will increase. As soon as there is any contemplation of sense gratification, then the spirit will be lost. Then instead of Christianity, it will be “Churchianity,” officially going to the church, doing nothing, and gradually nobody will go.
Rupanuga: Like the Christians.
Prabhupada: Yes. Everywhere. Christians… Now who are coming here, in so many temples? Nobody is coming. They have made it a business, “Oh, the Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s birthday, you come here.” And somebody will come, collect some money, and then there is no business–go away.
SB 6.1.2 P The History of the Life of Ajamila
As Lord Krsna explains in Bhagavad-gita (9.25):
yanti deva-vrata devan
pitrn yanti pitr-vratah
bhutani yanti bhutejya
yanti mad-yajino ‘pi mam
“Those who worship the demigods will take birth among the demigods; those who worship ghosts and spirits will take birth among such beings; those who worship ancestors go to the ancestors; and those who worship Me will live with Me.” Because of the influence of the various modes of nature, the living entities have various tendencies or propensities, and therefore they are qualified to achieve various destinations. As long as one is materially attached, he wants to be elevated to the heavenly planets because of his attraction to the material world. The Supreme Personality of Godhead declares, however, “Those who worship Me come to Me.” If one has no information about the Supreme Lord and His abode, one tries to be elevated only to a higher material position, but when one concludes that in this material world there is nothing but repeated birth and death, he tries to return home, back to Godhead. If one attains that destination, he need never return to this material world (yad gatva na nivartante tad dhama paramam mama). As Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu says in Caitanya-caritamrta (Madhya 19.151):
brahmanda bhramite kona bhagyavan jiva
guru-krsna-prasade paya bhakti-lata-bija
“According to their karma, all living entities are wandering throughout the entire universe. Some of them are being elevated to the upper planetary systems, and some are going down into the lower planetary systems. Out of many millions of wandering living entities, one who is very fortunate gets an opportunity to associate with a bona fide spiritual master by the grace of Krsna. By the mercy of both Krsna and the spiritual master, such a person receives the seed of the creeper of devotional service.” All living entities are rotating throughout the universe, going sometimes up to the higher planetary systems and sometimes down to the lower planets. This is the material disease, which is known as pravrtti-marga. When one becomes intelligent he takes to nivrtti-marga, the path of liberation, and thus instead of rotating within this material world, he returns home, back to Godhead. This is necessary.
SB 10.10.4 T Deliverance of the Yamala-arjuna Trees
antah pravisya gangayam
ambhoja-vana-rajini
cikridatur yuvatibhir
gajav iva karenubhih
SYNONYMS
antah–within; pravisya–entering; gangayam–the Ganges, known as Mandakini; ambhoja–of lotus flowers; vana-rajini–where there was a congested forest; cikridatuh–the two of them used to enjoy; yuvatibhih–in the company of young girls; gajau–two elephants; iva–just like; karenubhih–with female elephants.
TRANSLATION
Within the waters of the Mandakini Ganges, which were crowded with gardens of lotus flowers, the two sons of Kuvera would enjoy young girls, just like two male elephants enjoying in the water with female elephants.
PURPORT
People generally go to the Ganges to be purified of the effects of sinful life, but here is an example of how foolish persons enter the Ganges to become involved in sinful life. It is not that everyone becomes purified by entering the Ganges. Everything, spiritual and material, depends on one’s mental condition.
TEXT 5
yadrcchaya ca devarsir
bhagavams tatra kaurava
apasyan narado devau
ksibanau samabudhyata
SYNONYMS
yadrcchaya–by chance, while wandering all over the universe; ca–and; deva-rsih–the supreme saintly person among the demigods; bhagavan–the most powerful; tatra–there (where the two sons of Kuvera were enjoying life); kaurava–O Maharaja Pariksit; apasyat–when he saw; naradah–the great saint; devau–the two boys of the demigods; ksibanau–with eyes maddened by intoxication; samabudhyata–he could understand (their position).
TRANSLATION
O Maharaja Pariksit, by some auspicious opportunity for the two boys, the great saint Devarsi Narada once appeared there by chance. Seeing them intoxicated, with rolling eyes, he could understand their situation.
PURPORT
It is said:
‘sadhu-sanga,’ ‘sadhu-sanga’—-sarva-sastre kaya
lava-matra sadhu-sange sarva-siddhi haya
(Cc. Madhya 22.54)
Wherever Narada Muni goes, any moment at which he appears is understood to be extremely auspicious. It is also said:
brahmanda bhramite kona bhagyavan jiva
guru-krsna-prasade paya bhakti-lata-bija
“According to their karma, all living entities are wandering throughout the entire universe. Some of them are being elevated to the upper planetary systems, and some are going down into the lower planetary systems. Out of many millions of wandering living entities, one who is very fortunate gets an opportunity to associate with a bona fide spiritual master by the grace of Krsna. By the mercy of both Krsna and the spiritual master, such a person receives the seed of the creeper of devotional service.” (Cc. Madhya 19.151) Narada appeared in the garden to give the two sons of Kuvera the seed of devotional service, even though they were intoxicated. Saintly persons know how to bestow mercy upon the fallen souls.
Madhya 19.151 T Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu Instructs Srila Rupa Gosvami
brahmanda bhramite kona bhagyavan jiva
guru-krsna-prasade paya bhakti-lata-bija
SYNONYMS
brahmanda bhramite–wandering in this universe; kona–some; bhagyavan–most fortunate; jiva–living being; guru–of the spiritual master; krsna–of Krsna; prasade–by the mercy; paya–gets; bhakti-lata–of the creeper of devotional service; bija–the seed.
TRANSLATION
“According to their karma, all living entities are wandering throughout the entire universe. Some of them are being elevated to the upper planetary systems, and some are going down into the lower planetary systems. Out of many millions of wandering living entities, one who is very fortunate gets an opportunity to associate with a bona fide spiritual master by the grace of Krsna. By the mercy of both Krsna and the spiritual master, such a person receives the seed of the creeper of devotional service.
PURPORT
When we speak of brahmanda, we refer to the whole universe, or to the cluster of many millions of universes. In all universes, there are innumerable planets and innumerable living entities upon those planets in the air and in the water. There are millions and trillions of living entities everywhere, and they are engaged by maya in suffering and enjoying the results of their fruitive activity life after life. This is the position of the materially conditioned living entities. Out of many of these living entities, if one is actually fortunate (bhagyavan), he comes in contact with a bona fide spiritual master by Krsna’s mercy.
Krsna is situated in everyone’s heart, and if one desires something, Krsna fulfills one’s desire. If the living entity by chance or fortune comes in contact with the Krsna consciousness movement and wishes to associate with that movement, Krsna, who is situated in everyone’s heart, gives him the chance to meet a bona fide spiritual master. This is called guru-krsna-prasada. Krsna is prepared to bestow His mercy upon all living entities, and as soon as a living entity desires the Lord’s mercy, the Lord immediately gives him an opportunity to meet a bona fide spiritual master. Such a person is fortified by both Krsna and the spiritual master. He is helped from within by Krsna and from without by the spiritual master. Both are prepared to help the sincere living being become free from this material bondage.
How one can become this fortunate can be seen in the life of Srila Narada Muni. In his previous life he was born of a maidservant. Although he was not born into a prestigious position, his mother was fortunately engaged in rendering service to some Vaisnavas. When these Vaisnavas were resting during the Caturmasya period, the boy Narada took the opportunity to engage in their service. Taking compassion upon the boy, the Vaisnavas offered him the remnants of their food.
By serving them and obeying their orders, the boy became the object of sympathy for the Vaisnavas, and, by the Vaisnavas’ unknown mercy, he gradually became a pure devotee. In the next life he was Narada Muni, the most exalted of Vaisnavas and the most important guru and acarya of Vaisnavas.
Following in the footsteps of Narada Muni, this Krsna consciousness movement is rendering service to humanity by giving everyone a chance to come in contact with Krsna. If one is fortunate, he becomes intimately related with this movement. Then, by the grace of Krsna, one’s life becomes successful. Everyone has dormant krsna-bhakti–love for Krsna–and in the association of good devotees, that love is revealed. As stated in Caitanya-caritamrta (Madhya 22.107):
nitya-siddha-krsna-prema ‘sadhya’ kabhu naya
sravanadi-suddha-citte karaye udaya
Dormant devotional service to Krsna is within everyone. Simply by associating with devotees, hearing their good instructions and chanting the Hare Krsna mantra, dormant love for Krsna is awakened. In this way one acquires the seed of devotional service. Guru-krsna-prasade paya bhakti-lata-bija.
Madhya 25.83 T How All the Residents of Varanasi Became Vaisnavas
muktanam api siddhanam
narayana-parayanah
sudurlabhah prasantatma
kotisv api maha-mune
SYNONYMS
muktanam–of persons liberated or freed from the bondage of ignorance; api–even; siddhanam–of persons who have achieved perfection; narayana–of the Supreme Personality of Godhead; parayanah–the devotee; su-durlabhah–very rare; prasanta-atma–completely satisfied, desireless; kotisu–among many millions; api–certainly; maha-mune–O great sage.
TRANSLATION
” ‘O great sage, out of many millions of materially liberated people who are free from ignorance, and out of many millions of siddhas who have nearly attained perfection, there is hardly one pure devotee of Narayana. Only such a devotee is actually completely satisfied and peaceful.’
PURPORT
This verse is quoted from Srimad-Bhagavatam (6.14.5).
750509mw.per Conversations
Prabhupada: It is not meant for mass people. Only selected fortunate. My Guru Maharaja used to say, “If I could make one person to be Krsna conscious, then my mission would be successful.” It is not for mass person. Only the fortunate they can do. Caitanya Mahaprabhu, by introducing sankirtana, even the mass can take part. When there is sankirtana, everyone joins. And by joining in that way, they will become purified.
Amogha: In Sydney, the city council once tried to stop us, legally, from chanting in the streets. First they arrested us two years ago, but then they spent many dollars of tax money to prepare a case for the court, and they didn’t even tell us. They had the court session, and the judge ruled that “This Hare Krsna chanting in the streets is good. It adds color to the city and is not illegal. Why you are saying this is illegal? This is their right. And it makes the city more colorful.”
Prabhupada: Nice judge. God gave him sense.
Amogha: So actually many people like to see the chanting now. When we go downtown with a big party on Friday and Saturday nights, when they have late-night shopping and movies, many people clap, and they dance a little bit. Sometimes mocking, but also one can see they’re affected. And usually if we stop in front of a cinema and chant there, fifty or more people they just stop and they stare, and they can’t think of anything else. They just watch and watch and watch. They seem to be fascinated by the sound of Krsna’s name.
Prabhupada: There is a natural tendency to hear. Artificially they stopped. Nitya siddha krsna bhakti. Appeals to the heart immediately. Unless he is too much sinful it will appeal immediately.
(by Mahesh Raja)
PAMHO AGTACBSP, FIRST OF ALL THE FORTUNE DON’T BELONG TO THE CURSED MATERIAL WORLD WITH CURSED PEOPLE, IF ONE BECOME BHAGYAVAN VERY FORTUNATE TO GO BACK HOME IT MEANS HE DON’T BELONG TO THIS ROTTEN WORLD ANYMORE BECAUSE DESTROYED ALL HIS ENEMIES WHO SPOILED THE FORTUNE OF UNLUCKY PEOPLE, ONE CANT BECOME FORTUNATE IF ONE HAVE STILL SOME HIDDEN ENEMIES BECAUSE FORTUNE ONLY IS POWER FREE FROM ENEMIES PLUS CURSES TOO,MANY FAKE GURU CAME IN CONTACT WITH A PURE DEVOTEE AS HDG ACBSP BUT THEY ALREADY DEPARTED MORE ROTTEN THEN BEFORE THEREFORE WHEN WE ARE ABLE TO BECOME FREE FROM THE CURSES OF THE MATERIAL WORLD WE WILL BECOME VERY FORTUNATE IN THE SAFE WAY BACK HOME AND NOT OTHERWISE BECAUSE EVEN THE DEMIGODS WHO ARE SITUATED IN SATTVA GUNA GOODNESS STILL HAVE SOME ENEMIES BECAUSE ONE BECOME FREE FROM ALL THE ENEMIES VISIBLE AND INVISIBLE ONLY WHEN ONE IS SITUATED IN THE PLATFORM OF PURE SATTVA GUNA BEYOND THE THREE GUNAS MAIYA OF THE UNWANTED MATERIAL WORLD, AGTACBSP YS HARIBOL
…So they are āgamāpāyino. In touch with the skin it is sometimes pleasing, sometimes distressful. So this distress and happiness will be possible… Sukham aindriyakaṁ daityā deha-yogena dehinām. As soon as it is in touch with the body, such kind of distress and happiness will be fact. But don’t be agitated. Your real purpose is that you must increase your Kṛṣṇa consciousness in any circumstances. And that is your business, human life. Don’t waste your life. Don’t be misguided.
He is advising to the sons of the demons because the demons, they cannot understand. But it is the duty of the Vaiṣṇava to preach, although Kṛṣṇa advises that “You don’t preach the truth of Bhagavad-gītā to the demons.” He said, “THOSE WHO HAVE NOT UNDERGONE AUSTERITIES, THOSE WHO ARE NOT VERY SERIOUS, DON’T SPEAK ABOUT THESE LESSONS OF BHAGAVAD-GITA, sarva-dharmān parityajya [Bg. 18.66].” Means they’ll not understand. But still, the devotees, they take the risk that “All right, let me try to convince this person that ‘Take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness.’ ” Even Kṛṣṇa says that “Don’t try, because they will not be able to understand,” still, they try. That is a devotee. Therefore devotee is more merciful than Kṛṣṇa. Devotee is more merciful. Even there is no hope to understand, still, he goes door to door = “Please take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Please take to Kṛṣṇa, and you’ll be happy.” It is not always… Just like you are trying to spread Kṛṣṇa consciousness with so much endeavor. IT’S NOT THAT CENT PERCENT PEOPLE OF THE WORLD WILL TAKE. THATS NOT POSSIBLE. Ei rūpe brahmāṇḍa bhramite kono bhāgyavān jīva [Cc. Madhya 19.151]. ONLY THE FORTUNATE PERSONS WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE IT. So we should not be disappointed that “Nobody, majority of people, do not take this. What is the use of? Let me sit down in Vṛndāvana and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra.” No. The Caitanya Mahāprabhu, He also did it. He never sat down tightly in Vṛndāvana. He also did it. He traveled all over the India and took so much trouble. So preaching is very important, and you should engage. That will help you. Every one of you should be pure in your activities and try to preach Kṛṣṇa consciousness as far as possible. IF YOU REMAIN PURE, then your preaching will be successful and you’ll get encouragement. That is the instruction of all Vaiṣṇavas.
Thank you very much.
Devotees: Jaya. [end]
https://prabhupadavani.org/transcriptions/751209sbvrn/
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TO BE VERY FORTUNATE MEANS TO HAVE THE MERCY OF MADHAVA KRSNA GOPAL BECAUSE IN BHAKTI ONLY THE ATTACHMENT FOR A REAL DEVOTEE IS SRI KRSNA WITH ALL THE ENEMIES DESTROYED, BHAKTI PARESANU BHAVO VIRAKTIR ANYATRA SYAT,AGTACBSP YS HARIBOL
To listen is to suffer because we do not want to listen
to anything that might require a change.
To listen is to change.
We cannot change without listening.
Listening implies a change.
We need to change just to listen.
To listen to the Pure Devotee is to change.
The change implies our good fortune.
I AGREED THE CHANGE COME WHEN WE ARE ABLE TO LISTEN PROPERLY ,IT CAN TAKE MANY LIVES BUT FOR A FORTUNATE DEVOTEE IT CAN TAKE ONLY A LAVA MATRA THAT IS A FRACTION OF A SECOND.AGTACBSP YS HARIBOL
UNFORTUNATELY WE BORN IN THE CURSED MATERIAL WORLD THEREFORE ONE IS ABLE TO HEAR GOD ONLY WHEN ONE BECOME FREE FROM ALL THE CURSES OF THE UNWANTED MATERIAL WORLD ,IT IS A SAD TRUTH TO MAKE IT JOYFUL BY CHANTING AND HEARING PROPERLY EVEN UNDER CURSE WE KEEP TO SERVE OUR BEST FRIEND WHO IS PERFECT IN ALL RESPECT THEREFORE WE OFFER OUR RESPECTFUL OBEISANCES TO HIM LIFE AFTER LIFE EVEN IN THE HELLISH PLANETS WE NEVER STOP TO THINK OF HIM BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED TO HIM SARVA KARANAM THE CAUSE OF ALL CAUSES INCLUDING ALL THE CURSES THEREFORE WE ARE STILL CONNECTED TO HIM THROUGH THE THREE GUNAS EVERYTHING RESIDE IN HIM.
AGTACBSP YS HARIBOL
I SAID THANK YOU TO SRI KRSNA TO MAKE ME VERY TOLERANT OTHERWISE I WAS ALREADY A SERIAL KILLER, I MEAN I’M STILL UNDER CURSE AND THE PERSON WHO CURSED ME TRYING TO KILL ME ALSO BY COMING IN MY YARD WITH HIS ASTRAL BODY BUT HE GOT DEFEATED BY SRI KRSNA, RAKHE KRSNA MARA KE MARA KRSNA RAKHE KE THEREFORE IS NOT EASY TO KILL BECAUSE IF SRI KRSNA WANT TO SAVE SOMEONE NOBODY CAN KILL HIM,I FOUND A BIG SCAR ON MY SHOULDER BUT I DID NOT FEEL ANY PAIN BY KRSNA MERCY,OF COURSE IS NOT NICE AT ALL TO BE VICTIM OF THIS DEMONIAC BEHAVIOUR AT 64 YEARS OLD AND DEMONS TRIED TO KILL ME SINCE BIRTH THEREFORE IF IM STILL ALIVE IS BECAUSE OF HIM THEN HOW CAN I GIVEN UP MY SEEVICE TO HIM?THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE THEREFORE I STOPPED THE IDEA TO BECOME A SERIAL KILLER PLUS THE IDEA TO HANG MYSELF BECAUSE OF MY BEST FRIEND SRI KRSNA BHAGAVAT KI JAY AGTACBSP YS HARIBOL
Note: Anti Ritviks become losers:
SB 7.4.43 P Hiranyakasipu Terrorizes the Universe
When a demon like Hiranyakasipu, despite his elevated position due to severe austerities, begins to tease a devotee, he begins falling down, and the results of his austerities dwindle. ONE WHO OPPRESSES A PURE DEVOTEE LOSES ALL THE RESULTS OF HIS AUSTERITIES, PENANCES AND PIOUS ACTIVITIES. Since Hiranyakasipu was now inclined to chastise his most exalted devotee son, Prahlada Maharaja, his opulences began dwindling.
Note: Anti Ritvik demon bogus gurus and their disciples destination:
72-12-14.Letter: Tusta Krsna
As for your next question, can only a few pure devotees deliver others, anyone, if he is a pure devotee he can deliver others, he can become spiritual master. But unless he on that platform he should not attempt it. THEN BOTH OF THEM WILL TO GO TO HELL, LIKE BLIND MEN LEADING THE BLIND.
Note: Anti Ritvik demon bogus gurus and their disciples/supporters destination:
SB 6.7.14 Indra Offends His Spiritual Master, Brhaspati.
A stone boat would be unable to float and would sink in the water with its passengers. SIMILARLY, THOSE WHO MISLEAD PEOPLE GO TO HELL, AND THEIR FOLLOWERS GO WITH THEM.
Note: Anti Ritviks who are SUPPORTING THE POISON GANG EXPLOITING DEVOTEES—- are NOT getting away:
…. FOR AFTER DEATH THE RESULT OF AN ACTION IS EQUALLY SHARED BY ITS DOER, ITS DIRECTOR AND ITS SUPPORTER.
“I request all the purehearted demigods, forefathers and saintly persons to support my proposal, for after death the result of an action is equally shared by its doer, its director and its supporter.” (SBhag. 4.21.26)
YES THIS HARINAM SANKIRTAN IS THE GREATEST BENEDICTION FOR THE HUMAN SOCIETY OF KALO SUDRA SAMBHAVAN BECAUSE IT IS ALL THE BEST OFTHE BEST MEDICINE THEREFORE WE DONT CARE HOW ROTTEN WE STILL ARE BECAUSE IT IS A QUESTION OF TIME I MEAN WHOEVER IS LUCKY TO CHANT HKMM IS ON BAIL IN THE PRISON HOUSE OF THE MATERIAL WORLD IF HE SELF BEHAVE THEN HE BECOME FREE OTHERWISE KEEPING GOING ROTTEN IN THE MATERIAL WORLD BUT WE GOT A PURPOSE IN LIFE AND THAT IS THIS CHANTING I MEAN SRI KRSNA KEEP US SAFE AND ALIVE ONLY FOR THIS PURPOSE ,OF COURSE IF WE TAKE THE PROPER WAY IN CHANTING OUR LOULYAM KALATVAM SPIRITUAL GREEDINESS WILL INCREASE ,I BEEN CHANTING 64 ROUNDS EVERYDAY FOR LONG TIME BUT AT THE PRESENT MOMENT MY LOULYAM KALATVAM IS NOT VERY GOOD AS USED TO BE WHEN I WAS YOUNGER BUT I STILL CHANT 16 ROUNDS DAILY BY THE MERCY OF THE REAL GURU(HDG ACBSP) SADHU AND SASTRA,ANYWAY IT IS A ROTTEN WORLD AND THE CITIZENS KNOW AS KALI CHELA ARE EVEN MORE ROTTEN BUT WE GOT THE WAY OUT FROM THIS LOITERING UP DOWN FROM THE 14 PLANETARY SYSTEM OF THIS QUARTER OF MATERIAL WORLD I MEAN WE ARE THAT LUCKY PEOPLE CONNECTED TO THAT SUDURLABHAH RARE PURE DEVOTEE OF SRI KRSNA WE GOT NOT TIME TO WASTE IN THE SUPER ROTTEN F-ISKCON WITH FAKE GURU AND FAKE PRASADA WE ARE REAL IN MAKING PEOPLE BHAGYAVAN BECAUSE WE GIVE ONLY REAL THINGS WE ARE FED UP OF THE SAME SOUP OF THE MATERIAL WORLD UNDER THE THREE GUNAS EVERYTHING IS POLLUTED SO WE DONT LOOK IN FOR GOOD REPUTATION AND RESPECT FROM OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS FAKE AND POLLUTED UNDER THE FACTOR TIME IN THE MATERIAL WORLD AND THE FALSE DISCIPLES OF F-ISKCON WILL UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THEY WILL SEE THEIR SO CALLED GURU TO STRUGGLE WITH MAYA BECAUSE THEY DISOBEYING TO A PURE DEVOTEE AS HDG ACBSP KI JAY YS HARIBOL
Note: Kṛṣṇa is within you, and as soon as He sees that you are sincere, He will send you to the right person.(Srila Prabhupada the BONA FIDE Guru). But—- Anti Ritvik thugs,crooks get cheaters as their guru.
740629iv.mel Conversations
Devotee: Srila Prabhupada, if we don’t know what Krsna is and we still get a bona fide spiritual master, then how do we call that? Our good fortune?
Prabhupada: Yes. That is stated in Caitanya… Ei rupe brahmanda bhramite kona bhagyavan jiva. KONA, SOME FORTUNATE PERSON, NOT ALL.
ei rupe brahmanda bhramite kona bhagyavan jiva
guru-krsna-prasade paya bhakti-lata-bija
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The Fifteenth Morning Walk:
December 7, 1973
Recorded on December 7, 1973,
On the shores of the Pacific Ocean
Near Los Angeles
Śrīla Prabhupāda is accompanied by Dr. Singh, Dr. W. H. Wolf-Rottkay and another student.
Student. If somebody is actually sincere, will he always meet a bona fide guru?
Śrīla Prabhupāda. Yes. Guru-kṛṣṇa-prasāde pāya bhakti-latā-bīja. Kṛṣṇa is within you, and as soon as He sees that you are sincere, He will send you to the right person.
Student. And if you are not completely sincere, you will get a cheater for a teacher?
Śrīla Prabhupāda. Yes. If you want to be cheated, Kṛṣṇa will send you to a cheater. Kṛṣṇa is superintelligent. If you are a cheater, He will cheat you perfectly. But if you are actually sincere, then He will give you the right guidance. In Bhagavad-gītā (15.15) Kṛṣṇa says, sarvasya cāhaṁ hṛdi sanniviṣṭo mattaḥ smṛtir jnānam apohanaṁ ca: “I am seated in everyone’s heart, and from Me come remembrance, knowledge and forgetfulness.” Kṛṣṇa speaks of both remembrance and forgetfulness. If you are a cheater, Kṛṣṇa will give you the intelligence to forget Him forever.
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Bali Mardana: If someone is actually sincere, can he be cheated or will he always get a bona fide guru?
Prabhupāda: No, if he is sincere he’ll get. Yes. Guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpāya pāya bhakti-latā-bīja [Cc. Madhya 19.151]. Guru and Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa is within you. As soon as He sees that you are sincere, He’ll give you the right person.
Bali Mardana: So if you are not completely sincere, you might get a Guru Maharaji.
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Bali Mardana: If you’re not completely sincere, you might get someone else.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Because you want to be cheated, you go to the cheater. That’s all. Ye yathā māṁ prapadyante tāṁs tathaiva bhajāmy aham [Bg. 4.11]. Kṛṣṇa is intelligent, superintelligent. If you are a cheater, He’ll cheat you. He’ll cheat you. First-class cheat, Kṛṣṇa. But if you’re actually sincere, then He’ll give you the right thing. That is stated in the Bhag…, mattaḥ smṛtir j�ānam apohanaṁ ca: [Bg. 15.15] “Everything is coming from Me: smṛtiḥ, remembrance, and forgetfulness.” If you are a cheater, Kṛṣṇa will give you such intelligence, you’ll forget Kṛṣṇa forever.
Dr. Wolfe: Śrīla Prabhupāda, so it is so, “Birds of a feather flock together.” The cheaters flock together.
Prabhupāda: Yes. “Birds of the same feather flock together.”
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Prabhupāda: (Hindi) It is very difficult to, to guru, but when guru comes, they also do not accept him. What can be done? They are so fallen. Only fortunate. Ei rūpe brahmāṇḍa bhramite kona bhāgyavān jīva [Cc. Madhya 19.151]. So to go to guru, to Kṛṣṇa, that requires fortune. Kona bhāgyavān jīva. Some fortunate person. Guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpāya pāya bhakti-latā-bīja [Cc. Madhya 19.151]. By the mercy of guru and Kṛṣṇa, he gets the seed of this bhakti. Bhaktyā mām abhijānāti [Bg. 18.55]. And when he’s a bhakta, then he can understand what is God. (To disciple:) Get the light. Bhaktyā mām abhijānā… No, there. That’s all right.
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Devotee: Śrīla Prabhupāda, if we don’t know what Kṛṣṇa is and we still get a bona fide spiritual master, then how do we call that? Our good fortune?
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is stated in Caitanya… Ei rūpe brahmāṇḍa bhramite kona bhāgyavān jīva. Kona, some fortunate person, not all.
ei rūpe brahmāṇḍa bhramite kona bhāgyavān jīva
guru-kṛṣṇa-prasāde pāya bhakti-latā-bīja
[Cc. Madhya 19.151]
You find out this in Teachings of Lord Caitanya. Find out the “Teachings to Rūpa Gosvāmī.”
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Pañcadravida: Śrīla Prabhupāda, what is our fortune that we’ve come in contact with a qualified guru? What have we done to qualify to come in contact with you?
Revatīnandana: In other words, why do some come and others not come?
Prabhupāda: It is the ajñāta-sukṛti, say. Ajñāta-sukṛti. You might have done something, very pious activities, which you do not know, but on the effect of.
Madhudviṣa: So it seems like it’s up to chance, then.
Prabhupāda: No chance. Just like a sinful man. Some saintly person comes to him and he gives some money to him. He does not know that “I am doing very pious activity,” but because he has given, he becomes pious.
Revatīnandana: If not even a blade of grass moves unless Kṛṣṇa sanctions it, then why does someone have the opportunity to perform such ajnata-sukrti, another person not?
Prabhupāda: Yes, Kṛṣṇa wants . . . Suppose a saintly person comes to a very sinful man. He needs some money. Immediately Kṛṣṇa says, “Give him some money. He requires.” So he says, “All right, sir, take it.” So Kṛṣṇa’s desires, he gives. Unless Kṛṣṇa dictates from within, how he can give?
Hari-śauri: So then where is the question of free will? If I want to give or not to give . . .
Prabhupāda: No, no, free will under Kṛṣṇa. You can become free will and become a big man immediately. Your free will sanctioned by Kṛṣṇa. You are not so free that whatever you like, you can do.
Madhudviṣa: So even if I want to perform some ajnata-sukrti, it is only by Kṛṣṇa’s mercy that I will do it.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Gurukṛpā: Man proposes and God disposes.
Prabhupāda: That is stated by Caitanya Mahāprabhu.
ei rūpe brahmāṇḍe bhramite kono bhāgyavān jīva
guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpāya pāya bhakti latā bīja
(CC Madhya 19.151)
As soon as he gives to a saintly person, bhakta, he immediately acquires some asset of future development. Immediately.
Acyutānanda: If someone gives to a person for spiritual . . . consciously for spiritual improvement . . .
Prabhupāda: There is no question of . . .
Acyutānanda: . . .and the person misuses the money, does he benefit?
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Acyutānanda: If a man says, “I am giving you this donation because it is a spiritual organization,” but if the money is misused, does that man benefit?
Prabhupāda: If money is misused, then both of them become implicated. If it is not used for Kṛṣṇa, then both of them becomes under the laws of karma.
Acyutānanda: But that man is sincere.
Prabhupāda: Well, this word “sincere,” there is no meaning unless he is a devotee. Ei bala ei manda sab mano-dharma: “These are all mental concoction.” There is no meaning. “This man is good,” “This man is sincere,” “This man is bad,” “This man is . . .” they are all mental concoction. Only good is he who is Kṛṣṇa conscious. Others all rascals.
Hari-śauri: So if Kṛṣṇa has given the dictation, then is He dictating every sinful man to give?
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Hari-śauri: Is He dictating every sinful man to give?
Prabhupāda: Why do you question like that? Kṛṣṇa is so foolish that He will dictate to give to a foolish, er, sinful man? It is odd question.
Hari-śauri: This is that point that does one come to . . . does one get contact with a pure devotee and advance like that from his own free will, from accepting the mercy of the spiritual master or not?
Prabhupāda: What does he say? Hmm?
Hari-śauri: Well the point . . . The point . . .
Prabhupāda: Somebody answer.
Jayādvaita: Not every sinful man is dictated to give money; otherwise they’d all be giving us money. They’re all sinful. We’d be getting money from everyone.
Revatīnandana: But then the question is why some and not others also?
Trivikrama: Kṛṣṇa is in everyone’s heart.
Gurukṛpā: But some are innocent.
Prabhupāda: That is Kṛṣṇa’s dictation.
Revatīnandana: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Yes. And you cannot bind Kṛṣṇa to dictate in a similar way. If He likes, He can ask a sinful man, “Do this.” If He doesn’t like, He may not act. That is Kṛṣṇa.
Revatīnandana: So ultimately it is simply by the mercy of Kṛṣṇa . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Revatīnandana: . . .that he comes back to Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Yes. So it is Kṛṣṇa’s business where to show mercy, where not to show. You cannot oblige Him that “You show mercy everywhere.” No. Nāhaṁ prakāśaḥ sarvasya yoga-maya-samāvṛtaḥ (BG 7.25). Kṛṣṇa . . . You cannot oblige Kṛṣṇa, “You do this.” That is not Kṛṣṇa. That is not Kṛṣṇa. If one is obliged to act to your dictation, then he is not Kṛṣṇa. Therefore whatever Kṛṣṇa likes, He’ll do. You cannot oblige Him, that “You have to do it.” No. That is karma-mimāṁsa, that “If good work gives good result, so why should we care for Kṛṣṇa? We shall do the good work.” That is . . . Ordinary people, they think like that. Karma-mimāṁsa. “If I do good work, Kṛṣṇa will be obliged to give me good effect. Why shall I care for Kṛṣṇa?” That is karma-mimāṁsa. “Work is final. Do good work, that’s all.” They say like that. But we say, even if you do good work, if Kṛṣṇa does not want it, then it will not produce good result. That is Kṛṣṇa.
Trivikrama: We don’t have the mercy of Kṛṣṇa yet, so . . .
Prabhupāda: No, no. Everyone has got the mercy, but that mercy is not obligatory. If He likes, He can give you mercy; if He does not like, He may not.
Trivikrama: But everyone has it.
Prabhupāda: Everyone . . . He is giving mercy. That is general. But if He does not like, He may not give you. You cannot make Him obliged.
Pañcadravida: So why is it, then, if it’s a question of ajñāta-sukṛti . . . The Indians, from their birth they’re watering tulasī, they’re chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa, they’re doing so many activities, but mostly your disciples are foreigners.
Prabhupāda: So that . . . No, means that is temporary. They may come again. It will never go in vain. Just like this cloud. Cloud is meant for raining. Now it is not raining, but when there is sufficient cloud, it will rain. You cannot say there is no rain. There is, but it is not sufficiently collected. When it is sufficiently collected, then.
Revatīnandana: Śrīla Prabhupāda, in the śāstras, like in Bhagavad-gītā, Kṛṣṇa gives certain criteria . . .
Prabhupāda: Sometimes you will see, even no sufficient cloud, still raining.
Acyutānanda: Yes, one cloud.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is superior direction. It is not your direction. (break)
Note: Srila Prabhupada has left us so many instructions to UNDERSTAND that HE is the Diksa Guru NOT these Anti Ritvik bunch of crooks. Take this for example : WHOSE words are we QUOTING as AUTHORITY: Srila Prabhupada. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SPIRITUAL MASTER’S INSTRUCTIONS AND THE SPIRITUAL MASTER HIMSELF. Are there any bunch of Anti Ritvik CROOKS posing as spiritual master whose words are being QUOTED by ALL sections of society?????
Adi 1.35 The Spiritual Masters
The SERVICE of the spiritual master IS ESSENTIAL. IF THERE IS NO CHANCE TO SERVE THE SPIRITUAL MASTER DIRECTLY, A DEVOTEE SHOULD SERVE HIM BY REMEMBERING HIS INSTRUCTIONS. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SPIRITUAL MASTER’S INSTRUCTIONS AND THE SPIRITUAL MASTER HIMSELF. IN HIS ABSENCE, THEREFORE, HIS WORDS OF DIRECTION SHOULD BE THE PRIDE OF THE DISCIPLE.
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Anti Ritvik conditioned soul bunch of crooks posing as gurus have ZERO potency to give holy name :
Srila Prabhupada is revealing his unique position as the empowered acarya:
The true ācārya presents Kṛṣṇa to everyone by preaching the holy name of the Lord throughout the world. Thus, the conditioned souls, purified by chanting the holy name, are liberated from the blazing fire of material existence. In this way, spiritual benefit grows increasingly full, like the waxing moon in the sky. The true ācārya, the spiritual master of the entire world, must be considered an incarnation of Kṛṣṇa’s mercy. indeed, he is personally embracing Kṛṣṇa. He is therefore the spiritual master of all the varṇas (brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya and śūdra) and all the āśramas (brahmacarya, gṛhastha, vānaprastha and sannyāsa). Since he is understood to be the most advanced devotee, he is called paramahaṁsa-ṭhākura. Ṭhākura is a title of honor offered to the paramahaṁsa. Therefore one who acts as an ācārya, directly presenting Lord Kṛṣṇa by spreading His name and fame, is also to be called paramahaṁsa-ṭhākura.
: https://prabhupadabooks.com/cc/antya/7/12
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SB 2.9.8 P Answers by Citing the Lord’ s Version
THE POTENCY OF TRANSCENDENTAL SOUND IS NEVER MINIMIZED BECAUSE THE VIBRATOR IS APPARENTLY ABSENT. Therefore Srimad-Bhagavatam or Bhagavad-gita or any revealed scripture in the world is never to be accepted as an ordinary mundane sound without transcendental potency.
One has to receive the transcendental sound from the right source, accept it as a reality and prosecute the direction without hesitation. The secret of success is to receive the sound from the right source of a bona fide spiritual master. MUNDANE MANUFACTURED SOUND HAS NO POTENCY, AND AS SUCH, SEEMINGLY TRANSCENDENTAL SOUND RECEIVED FROM AN UNAUTHORIZED PERSON ALSO HAS NO POTENCY. One should be qualified enough to discern such transcendental potency, and either by discriminating or by fortunate chance if one is able to receive the transcendental sound from the bona fide spiritual master, his path of liberation is guaranteed. The disciple, however, must be ready to execute the order of the bona fide spiritual master as Lord Brahma executed the instruction of his spiritual master, the Lord Himself. Following the order of the bona fide spiritual master is the only duty of the disciple, and this completely faithful execution of the order of the bona fide spiritual master is the secret of success.
Two points here
1. covered by opulences:
Yes, the Maya is covering all the material energies. Therefore one who is materially advanced, covered with riches, covered with learning, covered with fame or covered with any material opulences, is understood to be covered with Maya. Srila Bhaktivinode says, jada vidya saba mayar baibhava “the material opulences are expansions of Maya’s influence.” As such, according to Vedic process, one voluntarily renounces the material opulences.
2. destinations of ‘pious’ followers of Jesus
Regarding the end of devotees of Lord Jesus Christ, they can go to heaven, that is all. That is a planet in the material world. A devotee of Lord Jesus Christ is one who is strictly following the ten commandments. Now just like in the commandment “Thou shalt not kill” this is a moral instruction for the sinful man. Similarly Lord Buddha also emphasized ahimsa paramadharma “the highest religion is nonviolence.” So these instructions are for the sinful men. When one is pious, instead of being sinful, he is promoted to the higher planetary systems like Janaloka, Mahaloka, or Tapaloka and they are above the planet Svargaloka. So persons who are cleansed of sinful life become eligible for spiritual life. From the instructions of Lord Jesus Christ we find that the stress is given to make men free from sinful life—such as “Thou shalt not kill” “Thou shalt not covet”—like that. Therefore the conclusion is that the devotees of Lord Jesus Christ are promoted to the heavenly planets which are within this material world.
https://prabhupadabooks.com/letters/los_angeles/march/02/1970/bhagavan
“….So persons who are cleansed of sinful life become eligible for spiritual life…..”
‘Unless one is bhagyavan, very fortunate, he’ll not go back to home, back to Godhead. He will rot here.’
Note: So, first one has to become ‘pious’, than be blessed by Destiny with ‘poverty’, than, eventually one might have a ‘chance’ to become bhagyavan, very fortunate.
730419SB.LA Lectures
So Krsna says that: “Anyone who is trying to approach Me, to become Krsna conscious, at the same time, he wants to become materially happy, he’s not very intelligent.” That means he’s wasting his time. Our main business is how to become Krsna conscious. This is the main business of human life. But if we waste our time for material improvement, and forget chanting, then that is loss, great loss. So such mentality, Krsna says: ami vijna ei murkhe visaya kene diba. “So this rascal is asking some material prosperity from Me by discharging devotional service. Why shall I give him material prosperity? Rather, whatever he has got, I shall take it away.” Yes. (laughter) It is not laughing. When it is taken away, we become very morose. But that is the test. That is stated by Krsna Himself to Yudhisthira Maharaja: yasyaham anugrhnami harisye tad dhanam sanaih.
Yudhisthira Maharaja indirectly inquired from Krsna that: “We are completely dependent on you, and still we are suffering materially so much, that our kingdom is taken away, our wife is insulted, we were attempted to be burned in a house.” So Krsna said: “Yes that is My first business.” Yasyaham anugrhnami harisye tad dhanam sanaih. “If I specially favor anybody, then I take away all his sources of income.” Very dangerous. Yes. I have got my practical experience in this connection. Yes. That is Krsna’s special favor. I do not wish to narrate, but it is a fact. It is a fact. My Guru Maharaja ordered me when I was twenty-five years old that: “You go and preach.” But I thought: “First of all, I shall become a rich man, and I shall use that money for preaching work.”
So that’s a long history. I got good opportunity for becoming very rich man in business. And some astrologer told me that: “You should have become like Birla.” So there was some chances, very good chances. I was manager in a big chemical factory. I started my own factory, the business was very successful. But everything was dismantled. I was forced to come to this position to carry out my order of my Guru Maharaja. Akincana-vittaya. When everything was finished, then I took Krsna, that: “You are the only…” Therefore Krsna is akincana-vitta. When one becomes finished of all his material opulences
And now I am realizing that I have not lost. I’ve gained. I’ve gained. That’s a fact. So to lose material opulences for Krsna’s sake is not loss. It is the greatest gain. Therefore it is said: akincana-vitta. When one becomes akincana, nothing to possess, everything finished, then Krsna becomes the only riches for such person. Because he’s devotee. Just like Narottama dasa Thakura says:
ha ha prabhu nanda-suta, vrsabhanu-suta-juta
karuna karaha ei-bara
narottama-dasa koy, na theliha ranga pay
toma bine ke ache amara
This position, that: “Krsna, except Yourself, I have nothing to claim. I have nothing, no possession. So don’t neglect me because You are my only possession.” This position is very nice. When we do not depend on anything material, simply depend on Krsna. That is first-class position of Krsna consciousness. Therefore Krsna is addressed: akincana-vittaya. “When one becomes impoverished materially, You are the only wealth.” Akincana-vittaya. Namah akincana-vitta,… nivrtta-guna-vrttaye. “The result is that when one takes You as the only possession, immediately he becomes free from the activities of this material nature.” That means immediately he’s posted on the transcendental position of the Absolute. Akincana-vittaya nivrtta-guna-vrttaye, atmaramaya. “At that time, he becomes happy with You, as You are Krsna, You are happy with Yourself…”
PAMHO AGTACBSP, I AGREED WITH HG MAHESHA RAJA WE AND KRSNA ARE THE ONLY WEALTH THEREFORE EVERYONE LOOK FOR THE REAL WEALTH OF THE SELF BECAUSE WHATEVER REMAIN AT THE END IS THE REAL WEALTH WE ARE PROGRESSING SPIRITUALLY THROUGH THE REVOLUTION OF THE SELF AND WE GOT EVERYTHING THROUGH THE SELF REALISATION IN KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS CONNECTED TO A PURE DEVOTEE AS HDG. ACBSP, SAT SRI AKALA IS REAL BEAUTY WEALTH WHATEVER IS BEYOND THE FACTOR TIME USED TO SAY GURU NANAK DEVJI A ETERNAL ASSOCIATE OF SRI CAITANYA MAHAPRABHU BECAUSE WHATEVER IS WITHIN THE FACTOR TIME IS NOT REAL AND WILL GET POLLUTED BY THE THREE GUNAS OF THE MATERIAL WORLD EVERYTHING GET STINK AND CRAZY PEOPLE STILL WANT TO ENJOY BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT KNOWLEDGE OF THE SELF AS THE REAL WEALTH .AGTACBSP YS HARIBOL