“Meaning of Secular State”

Prabhupada, London, September 2, 1973: Secular means they have meant like that, that “You do all nonsense; we don’t care. You pay me tax, that’s all. Income tax. And you go to hell. It doesn’t matter.” This is not secular state. Secular state means the state must be very vigilant whether everyone is doing his duty, everyone is employed in his duty; and if everyone is not employed, it is the duty of the government to see. He must be employed. A brahmana is employed, a ksatriya is employed, a vaisya is employed. Otherwise, if they are unemployed, idle brain, then idle brain will be devil’s workshop. That is happening. Because everyone is not employed, they have discovered machine, and the machine is working hundred men’s work. So actually, a hundred men are unemployed. So the machine has not improved the situation. It has improved the pocket of the capitalist. But it has not improved the condition of the mass of people. No. They are unemployed. Therefore, in the Western countries, because the machine and industry, therefore, now they are producing from the university hippies. Unemployed. Thousands and thousands of young boys and girls. Girls are not meant for working outside. Girls are meant for working inside.

So, the whole thing has topsy-turvied. Why? Because there is no good king. This is the cause. So the whole Battlefield of Kuruksetra was arranged by Krishna so that these irresponsible rogues, dressed as kings, should be all killed. That was the plan of Krishna. Just like Duryodhana. Duryodhana, in the dress of a king, he was a rogue. He cheated the Pandavas by gambling. “You bet your wife, you bet your kingdom.” In this way, they were devotees, simple, cheated them. So Krishna wanted to see that these cheaters and rogues must be killed. That was His plan. Therefore He said, yadrcchaya copapannam svarga-dvaram apavrtam: “Arjuna, you are hesitating to fight, but it is a great opportunity for you. Because as a ksatriya, if you kill these cheaters and rogues, that will be a great achievement for you. And even though you cannot kill them, if you die yourself, then the heavenly door is open for you.” Because a ksatriya who dies in the battlefield for the right cause, he goes to the heaven. If he conquers over the enemy, he enjoys the kingdom. And if he dies… But the cause must be right. Svarga-dvaram.

yadrcchaya copapannam svarga-dvaram apavrtam sukhinah ksatriyah partha labhante yuddham idrsam

Yuddham means a political fight. Nowadays. Just like in our India, Pakistan and Hindustan, they are always planning fighting. That is political. That is political. When the Pakistan’s government cannot manage, nobody is managing nicely, neither Pakistan or Hindustan, but they divert their attention the religious slogan—”Hindus are our enemies.” Or “the Pakistan is our enemies.” The so-called national slogan. Here also, everywhere. Yasyatma-buddhih kunape tri- dhatuke [SB 10.84.13]. Here in Europe also the two wars was arranged by the German people, they were envious of the English people. So these wars are not right wars, righteous wars. No. They are play of the diplomats, politicians—they engage. When they cannot manage things very nicely, they engage people into war. That’s all. Divert the attention. But war is not meant for that. War is meant for that, when people are not properly being trained up by the king of the state, the other king can attack him.

So ideal state means the king must be very responsible.

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