Tamala Krishna, May 4, 1976, Honolulu: The man we spoke to, when he heard what we wanted to do, he said, “Boys, you’re up against the wall.” He said, “You’re up against the Great Wall.” China has a wall called the Great Wall. He said, “You’ve come up against the Great Wall. You’ll never cross it.”
Prabhupada: No, they’ll be…. Nature’s law is so strong that they are also trying to knock their head in the wall. They will themselves break their head. The laws of nature is the same. If you try to break the walls from this side and if they try to break the walls from that side, both of them will lose their head. So if they are so foolish…. They are foolish. Everywhere such foolish men are there. They are trying to overcome the laws of nature. That is the greatest foolishness. That is the greatest foolishness. Just like government has got police force, military force, and if somebody tries to become, violate the laws of government by defying police force and military force—that is futile. Is it possible, that “I shall defy the government laws”? No, there is police force. There is military. “I don’t care for that.” It is foolishness. It is simply foolishness. Similarly, these laws of nature means the force of the Supreme. So if you want to defy, you may waste your time. It is not possible. And practically, Krishna says, “Here I have enforced this miserable condition of material life.” Janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi-duhkha- dosanu. First of all surpass this, janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi. Then talk of surpassing the laws of nature. Can the Communists overcome, stopping old age? No Communist will be old man? Then what way you have surpassed the laws of nature? No Communist will die? Then where is your surpassing laws of nature? Ultimately you are under the grip of laws of nature. So what is the meaning of this foolish talking, that “I am going to surpass the laws of nature”? Show us first of all.
Dhrstadyumna: Their goal is not so broad. They just want to control the…
Prabhupada: That means the little children’s policy. Children, just like imagining so many things, “I shall do that. I shall do.” The potter’s imagination. You know that? Potter’s imagination? You do not know the story? One potter is selling earthen pots, and he is saying that “Now, these two paisa, it has cost me one paisa. I shall make one paisa profit. Then I can make such profit. I shall invest again. I shall make another profit, another profit. In this way I shall become millionaire. Then I shall marry, and my wife shall be very obedient. And if she does not become obedient, I shall give her a kick like this.” And he, what was…. One pot was there. He kicked that pot and broke. It broke. “Oh, again I am poor man.” So this is going on, imagination. Imagination…. “I shall become so great that I shall kick Krishna’s law,” and whatever pot he had— broken. That’s all. Rascals, simply rascals. If anyone thinks like that, that, “I shall surpass the laws of nature,” then he’s madman. He’s madman. So what is the use of dealing with madmen? And as soon as you challenge them that “Show us that you have surpassed the laws of nature,” “Yes, we are trying. In future we shall do.” That’s all. This is their reply. So it is better to avoid such men. But if you peacefully you can introduce, “All right, you will do. You are wonderful men, so kindly if you read some pages of this, it is not very costly. You can keep. At leisure hour you can read,” in this way, imploring, then they will be benefited. That much we can do to any rascal. He sadhavah sakalam eva vihaya durat caitanya-candra- carane: “Oh, you are so nice. Therefore I am flattering you. I humbly obeisance. Kindly hear one thing. Keep some books. It is not very costly.” Bas. This much you can do. And let them become puffed up by their false notions. But if they keep some books, sometimes they will read or their sons will read. That’s all. Therefore I am stressing so much on books, that if the puffed-up rascals take some book and sometimes, if they read, he’ll be benefited, perfectly benefited. So distribute these books anywhere possible. It doesn’t matter where it is. The same process. Dante nidhaya trnakam padayor nipatya. The books will sell, that “You rascal number one, you set aside whatever learned. Read this.” He sadhavah sakalam eva vihaya: “You are very learned, but forget what you have learned, all rascaldom. Try to read this book.” Tavac ca sobhate murkho yavat kincin na bhasate: “A rascal fool is very beautifully dressed, very nice sitting. But his rascaldom will be disclosed as soon as he will speak.” So these rascals, as soon as they speak, “We shall surpass the laws of nature,” then we can understand what kind of rascals. Tavac ca sobhate murkhah. By their, these words we can take, “Oh, rascaldom,” at once. “I shall break the wall. I shall push the mountain with my head.” It is like that. If somebody is thinking that “I shall push the Himalayan mountains by knocking with my head,” then we can understand. So where it is? A rascal, the innocent, he is also rascal. But innocent is eager to become intelligent, so there we shall deal. And the stubborn atheists, they are dvisat. They cannot be corrected immediately, unless they become ruined. [break] …their standard of life. Try for that. Concentrate in your country. There is no need of going…. I was written, asking you that, that “If it is very hard job, don’t try for that, useless waste of time.” Incorrigible. So what is the use of going to a person…?
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