Another Malaysian Temple Joins Srila Prabhupada’s Family Hare Krishna!
Slowly but steadily, the genuine rtvik system is gaining popularity among the Hare Krishna devotees all around the world. Well, in our region here, one Sriman Svarat Prabhu, the president of the Hare Krishna Yatra in the town of Pedas, Negri Sembilan Malaysia, has openly declared himself a follower of the Rtvik system of initiations and agreed to cooperate with His Grace Sundar Gopal Prabhu, the temple president of Singapore and Rtvik representative for the regions of Singapore and Malaysia as of now. Sriman Svarat Prabhu, the temple president of the Pedas Yatra, who was already an advocate of the rtvik system of initiation, invited him to Pedas to initiate 4 devotees on behalf of Srila Prabhupada. The new initiates were Vaisnava Das, Manjari Devi Dasi, Cintamani Devi Dasi and Mitra Vrinda Devi Dasi. The initiates were in ecstasy to be directly connected to Srila Prabhupada. They were very happy to have realized that they have been now saved from the disastrous bogus guru system that is currently prevailing in ISKCON.
Along with Sriman Sacisuta Prabhu, His Grace Sundar Gopal Prabhu, Sriman Visvambhara Prabhu and ourselves went up to Pedas. Visvambhara Prabhu, although a grhastha, is always enthusiastic to be in the association of devotees. So he traveled with us in great eagerness.
Pedas is a typical Malaysian small, quiet town occupied by a significant number of Oriya families that have been 2 to 3 generations there. Svarat Prabhu happened to move in there about 2 years ago owing to his work commitments. He started preaching to the Oriya people there in an estate temple there managed by the Oriyas.
On the 20th of June, 2009, we had a very nice initiation ceremony. They received us very well. Simple people that they are, they enjoyed the kirtana and the initiation ceremony. Visvambhara Prabhu, being an Oriya himself, spoke at length about initiation, about Srila Prabhupada, and about Lord Jagannatha in the Oriya language.
The program was so enthusiastic and inspiring that the devotees immediately proposed to build a beautiful temple for Lord Jagannatha. They then consulted our President Sriman Sundar Gopal Prabhu for his assistance in accomplishing the project for which he readily consented. The land to build the temple is already acquired and they need some funding and other technical guidance. This, once accomplished, would be the first ever temple for Lord Jagannatha in Malaysia, thus fulfilling the desire of Srila Prabhupada.
The Mangala Arati next day was attended by us and Svarat Prabhu’s family and one more Oriya family who were greatly inspired by the initiation and are seriously aspiring to be initiated by Srila Prabhupada. The entire morning program including a very insightful Srimad Bhagavatam lecture by Sriman Sundar Gopal Prabhu and breakfast prasadam saw Svarat Prabhu very fervid in pushing on the movement there with newly-infused vigor. He and his family are going to attend our Ratha Yatra on Sunday, June 28, 2009.
I was very much inspired by the whole episode. It left me wondering how nice it would be if all the devotees of the world follow the instructions of Srila Prabhupada and cooperate in such an affectionate rapport.
This, the same Sundar Gopal das who for many years tried to drive us and anyone else not in his camp out of Singapore, who, according to a person who attacked me with an iron rod one night, had instigated the burning of our temple, books and deities in 1990, who used to call the Singapore authorities on us when we had Sunday feast programs, who called the police to report that we were going door-to-door selling books, who stopped our publication Every Town & Village, who launched the nefarious BBTI courtcase in Singapore against us for having published Bhagavad-gita As It Is in Chinese, claiming that we had infringed the copyright (BBTI ended up having to withdraw the case because they could not establish ownership of the copyright), and who has publicly denounced Hansadutta and continues to do so… In all these years Sundar Gopal das has never owned up to and apologized for any of these actions. But somehow or other he is regarded as a disciple of Srila Prabhupada in very good standing, good enough to initiate new disciples of Srila Prabhupada. (more at http://harekrishnamalaysia.com/krsnablog/2010/01/23/self-anointed-ritvik-representatives/)
Hare Krishna to all Srila Prabhupadanugas. All Glories To Srila Prabhupada. Who is this Bhima. Oh yeah, he is just a phathetic Hansadutta disciple aka fanatic who promotes that hansadutta who is actually an offender of Srila Prabhupada and other vaishnavas to be the only ritvik represent. Well, too bad for him, we all have brains to understand that hansadutta who was once so greedy taking disciple for himself what to speak of marrying one of them and whose profile is there in detail in MONKEY”S ON STICK is absolutely not fit to be a Srila Prabhupada representative. And I DON:T UNDERSTAND why their comment and hansadutta link is here in this webpage supposedly only for real and sincere Srila Prabhupadanugas. Its insane to argue on his standing. These people including Hansadutta can go on and on and on and on about thier so called sincerity towards Srila Prabhupada or their rights to be a Srila Prabhupada representative. Come on Srila Prabhupadanugas, I beg to you to actually look into the grevious offences that Hansadutta and his clans have done to our beloved Acharya Srila Prabhupada. There is no way such an offender can clean up his hands as if he have done no damage to Srila Prabhupada’s important instruction to initiate on His behalf. There is a certain kind of minor offences that Srila Prabhupada would forgive but to the offences of twisting and adjusting the Acharya’s instruction to accommadate ones own selfish motive is an extremely unforgiveable offence. He just wanted to promote himself among the Prabhupadanugas after being forcebly kicked out by the GBC. So, there is no way he can get any respect within the ISKCON or in GBC. So, now, he just turn the whole selfish story and put up another form just like putana to bewilder the Srila Prabhupadanugas. I strongly recommend that this speculating Bhima will stop promoting such a person and this Bhima should have some favor of Hansadutta that he so shamelessly arguing that Hansadutta with all his offences and rascaldom is the actual representative of Srila Prabhupada. Its a wake up call to Hansadutta also. Please stop being a putana!
hare krishna,
i think that the ritvik philosophy does not make any sense. i am not a iskcon devotee but have read your magazine called back to prabhupada. logically, if a guru passes a way the next one to continue the lineage or parampara like in iskcon should be the disciples of that particular guru. on asking this same question to a devotee named vasudevan in klang, malaysia he said that
swami prabhupada wanted the ritvik initiation. well, i think that if swamiji wanted to be the last guru in the sampradaya and wants to follow the ritvik system, he could have wrote it inhis books because iskcon is his movement and he could boldly written it down in his books. with my personal experience in mayapur, while with swamiji in his room with all his disciples for his birthday early in the morning. i witnessed swamiji saying to all his disciple that after swamiji departs from this world his disciples should accept disciples and become a guru to continue the parampara. and i was there witnessing prabhupada giving his full blessings to his disciples. he said even his disciples who are ladies can give initiation and he gave the example of a person named jahnava mataji who is the wife of nityananda. but he said it is not recomended. so i think with my close encounter with swamiji, he actually wanted to continue the parampara and his disciples become guru’s and accept disciples directly and not on behalf of swamiji.
radhe radhe
jai sri radhe
kripalu swamiji dasanudas,
gopal jeevan das(initiated in vrndavan 1962)
currently in klang,malaysia
Haribol dear Gopal Jeevan Prabhu,
all glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Please take a look at http://rtvik.com
Hare Krishna,
Michael
this one devotee in seremban, his karmi name is sivajimani, now become svarat das, this mad elephant going around and around talking about hare krishna philosophy saying that everyone is wrong, so called mr.perfect. his philosophy is only right. first ,from isckon jumping to IRM, then from IRM to kapintra swami then hanging to hansadutta swami, from hansadutta swami to bhima swami, now with sundar gopal swami. look at this monkey, among all the stupid monkeys, jumping to all the trees, and destroying all the fruits, he now become rascal monkey. lately he running with one prostitute to INDIA, illegally having affair then got caught, few gundas beaten him and threaten, breaked his face left and right and surrender to the police like one coward,now he his walking around seremban and trying to spoil other devotees. so please avoid the so-called mr.perfect, who is a rascal and useless which his philosophy all are nonsense that is mr.svarat corrupt.
hare krishna..pamho
my name is jayasurya@jaya gaurangga das@jaya gaura-vishnupriya das….i live in malaysia and while doing my studies in bangalore, i went to the iskcon temple there regularly and after 2 years i got the rtvik initiation…i used to support the rtvik theory that srila prabhupada is the only diksa guru in iskcon and that he is the last guru in sampradaya after reading the final order and back to prabhupada magazine….well i thought to myself that if prabhupada wanted to be the only diksa guru in iskcon even after his departure he could have written it directly and boldly in a letter…but not explaining in one word or two like the word”henceforward”…iskcon is his movement and he could have written it boldly in many of his books that he wants to remain as the sole dis]ksa guru of iskcon even after his departure…but prabhupada followed the guru,sadhu and sastra whereby it is stated that if a guru passes away the next one to continue the parampara will be his disciples ….so i was in confusioan for many years and i was unable to concentrate in my spiritual life and so i stoped coming to iskcon bamgalore and i went back to malaysia…i was having some mental illness due to thinking all this rtvik matter….but by the mercy of hari,guru and vaishnava i was able to think clearly and maturely and i went to one of the local iskcon centres in malaysia and is joined the real family of prabhupada…and i can say i had more trancendental bliss than in bangalore….in one way or another i can say truly from my heart thath the bangalore temple is full of rituals and they are not good at singing and they dont do a lot of preaching activities…..it was to royal and i had a hard time feeling the rasa…it was as tough living in a royal palace and seeing the king from far…i couldnt taste the simplicity,,,the nature of krishna….i couldnt taste the rasa…..so i was lucky i came to iskcon and i got the real initiaon by b.v.v.narasimha swami maharaj and my name is no ore jaya gaurangga das which was given to me by the rtvik acharya who is a bogus himself and know my name is jaya gaura vishnupriya das…and i am happy as all my family memebers are in iskcon followoing prabhupada and are starting to aspire a guru…..hare krishna…….
Hare Krsna
excuse me prabhu, you are no person to talk about bangalore. what they doing all this while cannot be done by ISCKON all this years. they are dedicated, oraganised and sistematic. they follow the instructions of our only guru, SRILA PRABHUPADA. and for your information, i been to bangalore and it was mind-blowing. i neva seen such a wonderfull worship of Lord and his consort, Srimathi Radharani following gauranitai, krishna-balaram, nrsimha, srinivasa govinda deity. i felt the love of kirtans and bhajans and the atmosphere there is superb. speechless. krishna sholud treated as a King. what u expect? maybe you cannot feel the love and prema bakti in bangalore because you are not in the mood of serving Lord but rather enjoying ur senses with nice and wonderfull bhajans! Hare Krsna.
And for you My dear mr jeevan. Im in praeching in India. Kripalu swami is claiming as Mahaprabhu, is he? have you ever read Chaitanya Caritamrta, Chaitanya Bhagavad, Mangala or Gaur Ganodesa dipika. I request you to please touch Srila Prabhupadas book.
No point initiated in the sixties or in Vrindavan, it doesnt matter actually. No need to read 60 books or live in Vrindavan. Just read 1 Srila Prabhupada book and remain always in vrindavan mentally thats enough. Kripalu swami dasanudas?. Shakshat swayam mahaprabhu prakatam. Bhagavan in Wheelchair? Hare bhagavan!
Hare Krishna dear Ananda Das prb, i think you have got me mistaken. This is not the KripaluJi that claims to be Mahaprabhu. Im initiated to the KripaluJi In Radha Gokulananda Temple in Vrndavan. He is a Gaudiya Vaishnava whose lineage is coming from Nityananda Prabhu.
priya ,
what is happening in bangalore temple?im cut of from mainstream society. can you please explain?
Hare Krsna!
Kindly give me the contact of a rtvik centre in Mumbai or Banglore as I would like to import Srila Prabhupadas original books to Nairobi Kenya.
I too am totally against the changing of Srila Prabhupadas books and hence would like to help in distributing Srila Prabhupadas ORIGINAL books.
Thanking you in advance.
Always in the service of Srila Prabhupada
Bijal
Hai… all human in the world be a human serve to mankind and help poors not fight among others, If says about the gurus actually because of this people the world be come not belive on GOD rather than belive GURUs thats why all the religions so many branch and so many teaching….belive your your self and your family help those needsed help makes you happy and sure GOD with you….why not prayer to GOD rather than thru GURUS makes you far from ALL MIGHTY OF GOD>>>NoT middle man needed to speak to BAGAWAN