BY: BHAKTA MIKE, Mar 23, USA (SUN) — I can definitely verify everything that Chaitanya Simha Prabhu is saying in his recent article, “ISKCON Philadelphia“. I went to the Philly Temple for a while, a few years ago, and have been to Govinda’s. It is exactly as he has said. There are many other things he didn’t mention, probably because he didn’t know about them.
The Temple is in absolute shambles, completely falling down and dirty. There wasn’t a Bhagavatam class for a long time, not even sure if there is one now. Most of the western devotees are long gone, and they mostly don’t even come to the Sunday Feast. The feast is usually cooked by non-initiated devotees, for example.
There was a guy named Patrick who lived in the temple. He was obviously not a stable person, but they let him live there anyway. He went crazy and tried to murder another devotee with an ax! The devotees were all terrified because he had keys to the temple and everyone was walking around with weapons to protect themselves. He eventually went to jail for it.
They threw a really nice devotee and her husband out because they tried to speak up about the harassment they were receiving from one of the Bengali devotees. But, the temple management always sides with them, because they have invested so much money in their immigration. I heard that devotees in the congregation petitioned the GBC about this, but of course, nothing was done. Basically, most western devotees left because of situations like this. They even threw one devotee out who was deathly ill, with no money and nowhere to go.
I thought of working for Govinda’s once, but devotees told me that the owner would promise to pay you and would keep putting it off, and eventually would owe you all this money and you would have to fight him for it. He would do this to devotees quite often, that’s probably why only karmis work there now. The manager at the time, who was a nice devotee, told my friend that nothing was offered. He tried to change the situation but the owner didn’t care. He said that the owner just “considered” everything offered. That’s real love and devotion.
The Food for Life situation is definitely accurate, everyone knows about it. If you search ‘food for life seva retreat’ you will see all the Mayavadi stuff Chaitanya dasa is talking about. It’s a real shame. So many sincere devotees would do anything to have a restaurant and facilities like Food for Life has. It’s really a sin that it’s being wasted on people who don’t know how to use it in Krishna’s service properly.
It’s really hard to see all of it, and me, being a nobody, I have absolutely no power to say or change anything. The GBC obviously doesn’t care about anything except for their own “guru retreats” and “leadership seminars”. This whole movement is going to hell in a handbasket, they’re even letting farms get sold to the totally demoniac oil industry that has basically destroyed this earth planet. Even I, a humble bhakta, knows that Srila Prabhupada compares them, in the Bhagavatam, to Hiranyaksa, who stole all the gold form the earth and caused the earth to fall out of orbit. I guess the demons are destroying everything from within, as Prabhupada predicted. It’s really sad that we had to witness it in our lifetime, though. ISKCON Philly seems to be a good example of what we should expect to see everywhere in the near future.
Bhakta Mike
SHAME ON YOU
No, not on bhakta mike, but on iskcon, on the GBC,
since they are the ones who runs this creasy goonshow.
Shame on Ravindra Svarupa who is the GBC, and is not able
and fit for running his tempels and manpower, this is realy sinfull.
Iskcon seems to be in hand of either demons ore madmen,
as Srila Prabhupada has predicted, this wy it goes down the drain.
No love and devotion, only suck out the money and get a pretty baby
this looks like is the philosophy of GBC Ravindra Svarupa PHD.
All nonsens rascals, who yust destroy Srila Prabhupads heritage.
SHAME ON YOU
No, not on you bhakta mike, you just open our eyes.
Shame on this rascal GBC Ravindra Svarupa PHD.
If Srila Prabhupada would see this mess, he would kick
this rascal out and close the Govinda’s, as long there is
no real programm as Srila Prabhupada startet it.
Shame on just such a GBC who has only in mind
his young female secretary, and dont care for his temples.
If they follow this road this way, iskcon goes to the dogs,
they are on highway to hell, and not on the stairway to heaven.
Investigate ISKCON Philadelphia.â€
From: charles dowson (hasti90@hotmail.com)
Sent: April 4, 2010 1:37:25 AM
To: Rocan Prabhu (sun@harekrsna.com); hasti90@hotmail.com
Investigate ISKCON Philadelphia.
In response to Blame ISKCON Philadelphia By: Chaitanya Simha Dasa I would like to first say that I had served with Devi Deva for a number of years from 1976 to 1980 at the Toronto temple. In 1986 I helped him set up and work three Rathayatra carts for Philadelphia in Atlantic City. He allowed me to drive Lady Subhadras cart. I am 3 years his senior since I took active part in service to Srila Prabhupada in April of 1973. Devi Deva re-started the Toronto Rathayatra programme in 1976. His service was very intense and dedicated to Srila Prabhupada and his mission. I have never served under and with anyone as tough, demanding and efficient as he is. I find these accusations astounding and depressing. That a devotee of his calibre could be involved now in distributing cow meat for karmis to eat violating the most basic sacred principle of Vaisnavism demands evidence.
Please excuse my approach I am not defending what here are accusations with no evidence. For many years devotees have uncovered ISKCON crimes with evidence, photos, video tape, documents, affidavits and other sworn statements and forms of evidence. I see none of that yet. However the silence from Devi Deva prabhu and ISKCON Philadelphia is creating a great deal of suspicion. If it is true that he is or has been involved in the distribution of cow meat then he has certainly created a very bad karmic situation for him and his whole family. Srila Prabhupada will not absorb this alleged offense. The distribution of cow meat for consumption promotes violence and war, causes violence and contaminates the environment. It also promotes the killing of cows and the opening of slaughter houses, causes disease and wastes vast amounts of the worlds needed grains. The cows of the US are citizens too and Philadelphia is the home of the founding fathers of the United States Of America. How ironic that it may now be the place where our founding father Srila Prabhupada is being wholly disregarded and Krsnas cows butchered for profit.
Srila Prabhupada is our leader and this alleged offence is a literal slap in the face of Srila Prabhupada. So where is the search for truth in this matter, the investigative reporting and the mounting evidence? It seems that ISKCON and those of us who are concerned about serious matters tap away for a while on a topic then move on to another one and do nothing. When are we going to grow up and do what is needed in any given matter that is of serious concern. If this is true then it must be proved and then go from there. Talk does nothing. Just like the 500 tapes that the Archives have of Srila Prabhupadas that they will not release. If you really want them then go in and get them!! My point is that all I hear is crying but I see no action, if you don’t act then what is the use of talking. “Fight for Me” Krsna tells Arjuna.
Srila Prabhupada started the worlds preeminent movement, the Hare Krsna movement commonly called the International Society for Krsna Consciousness. This is a peace movement to promote real world peace based on knowledge. Cow protection is part of the Hare Krsna movement so promoting cow killing means one is not part of the Hare Krsna movement and should no longer pretend to be or they will be accused of massive fraud. If it is true and the forthcoming evidence proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt then those involved should be sued for false representation of ISKCON and its founder A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada what to speak of the massive funds that may have been wasted. Just imagine if you can that all that energy, all that money and all those resources over all those years had actually been used to serve 100% Srila Prabhupada Krsna prasadam, why the whole state would be Krsna conscious. Now, the time has come for someone to issue an order from Srila Prabhupada. To anyone who is now involved in distributing cow meat and who claims any position within ISKCON Philadelphia and claims by action and words to represent Srila Prabhupada the founder of ISKCON,YOU ARE HEREBY ORDERED TO CEASE AND DESIST AND TO GO NO FURTHER.
God help anyone engaged in this alleged offence.
Ys Hasti Gopala Dasa