Pratyatosa Dasa (ACBSP), Sat, 27 Mar 2010: Even if they are qualified, Srila Prabhupada prescribed his ritvik system for ISKCON. Therefore, if they feel that they absolutely must become diksa gurus, then they should do it outside of ISKCON. They should follow Srila Prabhupada’s example and start their own institutions.
I could be wrong, but I don’t think that the GBC will ever allow my wife to be a diksa guru. Why should they?
Ameyatma Dasa (ACBSP): And, on what authority would they be doing so? They were never assigned such authority to ELECT or ALLOW ANY ONE to be a diksha guru. That duty or power was never given to them by Srila Prabhupada.
Show me in writing where Srila Prabhupada gave such duty and authority to the GBC – to elect or allow anyone to be guru? I have submitted letter signed by him where he quotes that his guru did not want this.
Did Srila Prabhupada ever go against this order of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaja? If anyone thinks so, then submit the evidence. Otherwise, the GBC have only acted outside his written and signed orders.
Because of this obvious conflict of interest, the only new diksa gurus that the GBC is going to approve are the ones….
The GBC has no authority to APPROVE of ANYONE. PERIOD. In fact, according to the DOM authored and signed by Srila Prabhupada they have NO Authority to act as GBC since they have not followed the election process.
The 1974 TopMost Urgency Written and Signed Decree still stands – it was never repealed or negated by Srila Prabhupada. That instruction is yet to be carried out. Until them, these GBC have no authority at all….. They are renegads misdirecting Prabhupada’s mission and masquerading as big big authorities. They have no real authority.
In court they admitted the only legal paper giving them authority is the DOM. Outside of the DOM they have no legal authority. But, despite that, GBC was never given authority to APPROVE who will or will not be future Gurus.
That is a bogus idea – Srila Prabhupada only said that the GBC can add to the Rtvik list, and it is from this that the GBC have construed that they also have authority to approve or elect Diksha gurus. They have no such authority, and that fact should be challenged in public – in news publications, TV, if it can be, in court of law.
…..who either are not going to be very much competition or the ones who they are afraid might reveal their “skeletons in the closet, in other words, the ones who “have the goods on them.”
Your servant, Pratyatosa Dasa
Gurus are not elected. How can anyone who has read a word of Srila Prabhupada’s books support this? It’s just the cardinal-pope-wealth control mechanism. It’s not a real religion, just a crooked business.
jay prabhupadanugaji, pamho agtacbsp,
to be a guru one must know his own svarupa like acbsp he got the manjari diksa mantra from srila rupa gosvamipada prabhupada in sri radha damodara temple the center of seva kunj rasa lila.
all the acaryas know the own original svarupa acbsp know that very well but he never make a show or speak out about that this is another quality of a maha purusa samit panih srotriyam brahma nistham.
srila rupa manjari gave darshan to acbsp several times and once he told him great work will be done by you and i will be all the time next to you.
so acbsp was the perfect nimitta matra to rupa gosvamiji and without this nimitta matra to nitya siddha there is not question of preaching is all cheating and cheaters as srila bhaktivinoda use to say small donkey glorify big donkey that’s what is going on in this kali age.
kalo sudra sambhavah the desire of srila prabhupada was to live in vrindavana as a niskincana bhakta this is another qualification of a pure sannyasi na dhanam na janam na sundarim but sri krsna had big plan through acbsp he gave him everything because he was completely free from false ego unless we realise this acintya bhedabheda tattva with sri krsna we can’t become uttama adikari gurus because there is false ego.
the other two classes of adikari are still progressing and can’t give us enough informations how to get out from samsara so the gbc can’t get acaryavan puruso veda until they keep the false ego alive as you know everything is moving by sri krsna will and when someone try to catch him without follow the acaryas sri krsna immediately bewilder him through his different energies visnu sakti para prokta.
anyway srila prabhupada already know about all these nonsenses he say that we were going to witness all this after 40 years of his phisical disappearance so there are another ten years to go before the so called guru and gbc understand that we have no acarya power given by sri krsna they are just dreaming and dreaming to become this and that but they forgot that this is the dream of maha visnu is not their dream.
jay prabhupadanugaji i lost another friend two days ago bhakti sundara govinda maharaja the chief of the caitanya sarasvati math i sing the song saparsada bhagavat viraha janita vilapa in his tirobhava mahotsava day i been cry by remember his association in navadwip dham he was the first devotee to distribute the btg of our beloved acarya acbsp who consider him like his son you can see now he is gone and others bogus guru ready to take his position anyway isvarah paramah krsnah dandavats agtys daso smi seva das anu das haribol
jay prabhus pamho all glories to acbsp our jagat guru i would to know from the prabhupadanugas what you think about hh bv narayana maharaj i been in sri kesava gaudya math for the celebration of sannyasa anniversary of acbsp several times and i can understand that his preaching is not a real big issue actually is going against the preaching of our beloved acarya by talking of rasa lila to kanista adikari devotees he say also that he is iskcon acbsp is not he give a lot of diksa to iskcon devotees he say also that the guru not take the karma of the disciples anyway i’m happy with acbsp connection i don’t know what you thinking about ? my pranam ys seva das